Returning Gangs

[Trideez]

Alright, with that Trideez, which gang represents which?

 

Families = Crips?

Ballas = Bloods?

You know that is a GREAT and AWESOME question. It would make a really good debate. I don't think there's a correct answer because both gangs have a mixture of their real life counterparts attributes. For example, Families killing other Families is a Crip attribute, Crip v.s. Crip rivalries are famous. But, the Families also wear Green, which is worn by a Blood/Piru gang in LA. "Balla" is a word that Bloods use to describe someone who has alot of money, while Crips would call that type of person a "High Roller". But in LA the Grape Street Crips wear purple, so that's a Crip attribute for the Ballas. So there is no true and correct answer. Myself, I always thought of the Families as the Crips just because they kill other Families.

[Sanjeem]

 

 

 

Yes I'm a fan of the Sopranos. If you're saying the beef between Tony's crew and Juniors crew is ANYTHING like the Eight Tray Gangsta Crips v.s. the Rollin 60 Crips war then you are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy off. Tony and Juniors crews were part of the same organization that had a dispute with each other. ETG vs RSC is a f*ckin 30 year WAR between 2 totally seperate gangs that will never be part of the same gang. They are both called Crips but that is the only thing they have in common, they are bitter rivals and cant be compared to a little dispute between 2 crews in a mafia family.

I didn't know that. I thought it was a similar situation. Bare in mind people did get killed over that little dispute, Mike Palmici, Bredon Felone, even Tony himself almost got killed. Only they settled there dispute, on the other hand within the street gang world, they have just decided to continue the war. Why? Maybe they just like killing people and having a beef, in the Mafia the whole atmosphere and general mind set is different, they just want to earn in peace.

[GarrowsKai]

Alright, with that Trideez, which gang represents which?

 

Families = Crips?

Ballas = Bloods?

You know that is a GREAT and AWESOME question. It would make a really good debate. I don't think there's a correct answer because both gangs have a mixture of their real life counterparts attributes. For example, Families killing other Families is a Crip attribute, Crip v.s. Crip rivalries are famous. But, the Families also wear Green, which is worn by a Blood/Piru gang in LA. "Balla" is a word that Bloods use to describe someone who has alot of money, while Crips would call that type of person a "High Roller". But in LA the Grape Street Crips wear purple, so that's a Crip attribute for the Ballas. So there is no true and correct answer. Myself, I always thought of the Families as the Crips just because they kill other Families.

I always though that my self, like they're not meant to be a direct counterpart to a real life gang, but both Families and Ballas include various elements from the Crips and the Bloods to make them each basically a hybrid of the two.

[SGT. Johnson]

Alright, with that Trideez, which gang represents which?

 

Families = Crips?

Ballas = Bloods?

You know that is a GREAT and AWESOME question. It would make a really good debate. I don't think there's a correct answer because both gangs have a mixture of their real life counterparts attributes. For example, Families killing other Families is a Crip attribute, Crip v.s. Crip rivalries are famous. But, the Families also wear Green, which is worn by a Blood/Piru gang in LA. "Balla" is a word that Bloods use to describe someone who has alot of money, while Crips would call that type of person a "High Roller". But in LA the Grape Street Crips wear purple, so that's a Crip attribute for the Ballas. So there is no true and correct answer. Myself, I always thought of the Families as the Crips just because they kill other Families.

I always though that my self, like they're not meant to be a direct counterpart to a real life gang, but both Families and Ballas include various elements from the Crips and the Bloods to make them each basically a hybrid of the two.

Hmm, I may just be clutching at straws here but what Garowski says is interesting and also what you said Trideez.

 

"They are not meant to be a direct counterpart to a real life gang". Using this for the AGAINST arguement, that means R* LOOSLEY based the Families and and the Ballas off the Bloods and the Crips. This means that R* will most likely take SOME features from both gangs but will redesign both gangs.

 

The only thing I'd say would be good evidence of keeping the gang's original names is the inclusion of the "Vinewood" sign. Using LSPD as an example is not a good one because, with all Law Enforcement, the department usually takes the name of the state, so therefore, the LSPD cannot change their name and must keep the original.

 

Really am getting excited about the answers given in this topic and this overall debate

[Trideez]

 

 

 

Yes I'm a fan of the Sopranos.  If you're saying the beef between Tony's crew and Juniors crew is ANYTHING like the Eight Tray Gangsta Crips v.s. the Rollin 60 Crips war then you are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy off.  Tony and Juniors crews were part of the same organization that had a dispute with each other.  ETG vs RSC is a f*ckin 30 year WAR between 2 totally seperate gangs that will never be part of the same gang.  They are both called Crips but that is the only thing they have in common, they are bitter rivals and cant be compared to a little dispute between 2 crews in a mafia family.

I didn't know that. I thought it was a similar situation. Bare in mind people did get killed over that little dispute, Mike Palmici, Bredon Felone, even Tony himself almost got killed. Only they settled there dispute, on the other hand within the street gang world, they have just decided to continue the war. Why? Maybe they just like killing people and having a beef, in the Mafia the whole atmosphere and general mind set is different, they just want to earn in peace.

The main difference is that the Sopranos people are all loyal to one organization. They have their own personal disputes/power grabs but they are all on the same team. That's not the case with the LA gangs. Just because 2 gangs both call themselves "Crips" really means nothing, their loyalty is to their individual set.

[Trideez]

For anyone interested in LA gang culture, here's a great book. I read it when I was in high school.

 

http://www.amazon.com/Monster-Autobiograph...r/dp/0802141447

 

It's the autobiography of Monster Cody, a notorious Eight Tray Gangsta Crip.

[Sanjeem]

For anyone interested in LA gang culture, here's a great book. I read it when I was in high school.

 

http://www.amazon.com/Monster-Autobiograph...r/dp/0802141447

 

It's the autobiography of Monster Cody, a notorious Eight Tray Gangsta Crip.

Thanks for the link, I too love reading about Gangs and crime. I take more of an Interest in Organized crime groups rather than street gangs but never the less, thanks for a potential good read.

[SGT. Johnson]

Alright, let's mix it up a bit:

 

Besides the Families and the Ballas, what other gangs might return? Vagos, Aztecas, Rifa, Mafia?

[Trideez]

 

Alright, let's mix it up a bit:

 

Besides the Families and the Ballas, what other gangs might return? Vagos, Aztecas, Rifa, Mafia?

Yeah, the Mexican/South American gangs should definitely be in the game. I dont know who the Aztecas and Vagos were representatives of, probably Surrenos and someone else, so yeah, I think they should return also. As for the "mafia", I dont think so. BUT, there should be the "Jewish mafia", that Hollywood crowd that runs things in that criminal underworld.

 

@ Sanjeem

 

It's a facsinating read, if you ever read it, send me a message and let me know what you think.

Edited February 16, 2012 by Trideez

[Sanjeem]

 

Alright, let's mix it up a bit:

 

Besides the Families and the Ballas, what other gangs might return? Vagos, Aztecas, Rifa, Mafia?

Good idea.

 

Personally, I hope we see the return of the Russian mob, like in San Andreas. Russian criminals do hold a stake in the LA underworld so why not include them. On a similar note, I would like to see Armenian crime gangs simply because they are possibly bigger than the Russians, I'm not sure why the Russians were picked over them in SA. Anyway yeah they are involved in Fraud, Drug trafficking and other white and blue collar crimes. Armenian power has roughly 150 or so members and is involved in lots of activity. I reckon one of them would make a good antagonist. Don't ask me why, I just think Eastern Europeans make good bad guys, probably the accent

 

I also hope we do, to some extent see the Mafia. I've been looking into this ('cos I'm a bit of a Mafia fan, just because it's interesting not because I think they are cool) But the Gambino family today still have crews operating in Los Angeles and Las Vegas. They are said not to be involved "Inside the Casino's" like before when they used to skim them but they are into other crimes, such as laundering money, Narcotics etc traditional mob rackets. The Gambino capo is called Nicholas "looks" DiGiovanni. It is today considered open ground for all Mafia families, so I reckon crews from the other families earn down there and send the envelopes back up north.

[SGT. Johnson]

I'd have to say that the Triads will return. They were in GTA III LC, LCS, and IV. They most likely will have factions as well; GTA CW showed that there were factions in the Triads:

 

The Lee Triads (protagonist Huang Lee is a member; run by his uncle, Wu Kenny Lee)

The Jaoming Triads (run by the Leader of the Triads, Hsin Jaoming; their faction leader is Chan Jaoming, Hsin's son)

The Zhou Triads (run by Zhou Ming)

 

Each of these groups makes up the Algonquin Triads (or something like that). Long story short, Hsin is getting old and needs to find a new leader. The three candidates are Wu Kenny Lee, Chan Jaoming, and Zhou Ming. Through the events, Wu Kenny Lee framed Chan and Zhou and made Huang kill them both. Kenny Lee was to be the leader uncontested, but thanks to Wade Hston, and LCPD Detective under IA investigation, helped to kill Lee, as Lee entered the home of Hsin and stabbed Hsin; thanks to his act of bravery and loyalty towards the Triads, it is inferred that Huang Lee becomes the new leader of the Algonquin Triads.

[Sanjeem]

Most "Organized" organized crime groups will have different factions that make up faction that make up something like the Algonquin Triads or the LC mafia, it's how the media depicts it really.

 

I too hope the Triads make a return, it would be realistic to include them, they have a share in the LA underworld and so do Asian street gangs like the Asian Boyz, I think composed of mainly south-east Asian members. Chinese, but more so Vietnamese, Cambodian, Thai e.t.c.

 

We for some bizarre reason did not really see any Mexican Drug cartels in GTA San Andreas , which is strange because they really have a big strong grip in Southern California, Possibly the Biggest. Especially in this present day, the death tolls since 2006 committed by the cartels has reached something like 40,000 deaths in Mexico and the U.S. This goes without saying a terrible tragedy but ever so suitable for a GTA game and since in life, bad things happen why not put it in V a video game. These guys are just violent, too violent! The cartels also get Mexican street gangs to do their dirty work for them, whilst the top cartels members are the brains who live in their mansions, or are fugitives.

 

 

[Beez]

Interesting topic. I didn't realize this was such a big debate since I don't visit the forum regularly. We can compare III to IV since they both are in Liberty City and SGT. Johnson pointed out that the Leone mob family do not cross "universes" to IV, did any other gangs from III show up in IV? The Triads, Yakuza or Jamaican gangs? I'll admit my GTA-fu is weak with details like this.

 

Colors were an important part of L.A. street gangs, so important that people got shot for wearing the wrong color. R* thought this was important when they made SA but they stayed away from the colors blue and red. I'll assume this was because R* didn't want to accociate too closely with the Bloods & Crips. If color isn't that important in modern L.A. gangs then maybe we'll see red and blue gangs in IV and they will have new names.

 

My guess is that R* will stay away from red & blue so what basic colors are left? Orange, yellow, green and purple. Orange and yellow are kinda weak so it's back to green and purple and it would be too weird to have those colors for gangs but totally different names. So I think the Ballas and Families will be back however the sets will be new and none of the SA characters will cross the "universe."

 

Hopefully the Angels of Death will be back since they are already in the IV "universe" and 1%er biker gangs started on the west coast. AOD=Hell's Angels? Hopefully The Lost returns as well but I suspect both would be minor because of TLAD. It's really a shame too because a GTA episode about outlaw biker gangs would fit much better in a west coast setting.

 

I think one of the biggest gangs in GTAV will have to be something based on MS13 or one of the other big Mexican gangs.

 

So I gotta agree with Trideez on this. Unless R* nutz up and has 2 new gangs in blue and red, it's going to be some form of the Ballas in purple and Families in green.

[EscoLehGo]

Most "Organized" organized crime groups will have different factions that make up faction that make up something like the Algonquin Triads or the LC mafia, it's how the media depicts it really.

 

I too hope the Triads make a return, it would be realistic to include them, they have a share in the LA underworld and so do Asian street gangs like the Asian Boyz, I think composed of mainly south-east Asian members. Chinese, but more so Vietnamese, Cambodian, Thai e.t.c.

 

We for some bizarre reason did not really see any Mexican Drug cartels in GTA San Andreas , which is strange because they really have a big strong grip in Southern California, Possibly the Biggest. Especially in this present day, the death tolls since 2006 committed by the cartels has reached something like 40,000 deaths in Mexico and the U.S. This goes without saying a terrible tragedy but ever so suitable for a GTA game and since in life, bad things happen why not put it in V a video game. These guys are just violent, too violent! The cartels also get Mexican street gangs to do their dirty work for them, whilst the top cartels members are the brains who live in their mansions, or are fugitives.

I don't think the cartels were as active in the early 90s as they are now and there street branches still had to compete with the black and Asian gangs. The violence has really picked up now though ever since Mexico declared a war on drugs back in 06 and both legal and illegal immigration has swelled the Hispanic street gangs numbers on the streets to where they're pretty much the biggest sharks in the pond at this point. Its a must that gta include these factors in V. ms13, the surenos, nortenos, 18th street and the Mexican mafia as well as the dangerous cartels should all be depicted properly for this to be realistic

 

Btw, Monster is a f*cking fantastic read, it really shows you how crazy street life was and still is for full fledged gang members

[SGT. Johnson]

 

Most "Organized" organized crime groups will have different factions that make up faction that make up something like the Algonquin Triads or the LC mafia, it's how the media depicts it really.

 

I too hope the Triads make a return, it would be realistic to include them, they have a share in the LA underworld and so do Asian street gangs like the Asian Boyz, I think composed of mainly south-east Asian members. Chinese, but more so Vietnamese, Cambodian, Thai e.t.c.

 

We for some bizarre reason did not really see any Mexican Drug cartels in GTA San Andreas , which is strange because they really have a big strong grip in Southern California, Possibly the Biggest. Especially in this present day, the death tolls since 2006 committed by the cartels has reached something like 40,000 deaths in Mexico and the U.S. This goes without saying a terrible tragedy but ever so suitable for a GTA game and since in life, bad things happen why not put it in V a video game. These guys are just violent, too violent! The cartels also get Mexican street gangs to do their dirty work for them, whilst the top cartels members are the brains who live in their mansions, or are fugitives.

EDIT: I just looked up the Los Santos Vagos and the Varrios Los Aztecas. Both are Mexican gangs. Aren't Cartels another word for gangs?

[GarrowsKai]

Most "Organized" organized crime groups will have different factions that make up faction that make up something like the Algonquin Triads or the LC mafia, it's how the media depicts it really.

 

I too hope the Triads make a return, it would be realistic to include them, they have a share in the LA underworld and so do Asian street gangs like the Asian Boyz, I think composed of mainly south-east Asian members. Chinese, but more so Vietnamese, Cambodian, Thai e.t.c.

 

We for some bizarre reason did not really see any Mexican Drug cartels in GTA San Andreas , which is strange because they really have a big strong grip in Southern California, Possibly the Biggest. Especially in this present day, the death tolls since 2006 committed by the cartels has reached something like 40,000 deaths in Mexico and the U.S. This goes without saying a terrible tragedy but ever so suitable for a GTA game and since in life, bad things happen why not put it in V a video game. These guys are just violent, too violent! The cartels also get Mexican street gangs to do their dirty work for them, whilst the top cartels members are the brains who live in their mansions, or are fugitives.

I don't mean to be or want to be racist but the appearance of the San Fierro Rifa gang looked mostly Mexican.

 

Wait, I also thought that the Aztecas were Mexican. Vagos? They were definitely Hispanic gangs, I think.

Yeah but they didn't really play a major part in the story line. They were central to a few missions but that was about it.

[EscoLehGo]

Most "Organized" organized crime groups will have different factions that make up faction that make up something like the Algonquin Triads or the LC mafia, it's how the media depicts it really.

 

I too hope the Triads make a return, it would be realistic to include them, they have a share in the LA underworld and so do Asian street gangs like the Asian Boyz, I think composed of mainly south-east Asian members. Chinese, but more so Vietnamese, Cambodian, Thai e.t.c.

 

We for some bizarre reason did not really see any Mexican Drug cartels in GTA San Andreas , which is strange because they really have a big strong grip in Southern California, Possibly the Biggest. Especially in this present day, the death tolls since 2006 committed by the cartels has reached something like 40,000 deaths in Mexico and the U.S. This goes without saying a terrible tragedy but ever so suitable for a GTA game and since in life, bad things happen why not put it in V a video game. These guys are just violent, too violent! The cartels also get Mexican street gangs to do their dirty work for them, whilst the top cartels members are the brains who live in their mansions, or are fugitives.

I don't mean to be or want to be racist but the appearance of the San Fierro Rifa gang looked mostly Mexican.

 

Wait, I also thought that the Aztecas were Mexican. Vagos? They were definitely Hispanic gangs, I think.

The vagos, rifa and aztecas were all clearly Mexican gangs, nothing racist about that observation lol

[Sanjeem]

 

Most "Organized" organized crime groups will have different factions that make up faction that make up something like the Algonquin Triads or the LC mafia, it's how the media depicts it really.

 

I too hope the Triads make a return, it would be realistic to include them, they have a share in the LA underworld and so do Asian street gangs like the Asian Boyz, I think composed of mainly south-east Asian members. Chinese, but more so Vietnamese, Cambodian, Thai e.t.c.

 

We for some bizarre reason did not really see any Mexican Drug cartels in GTA San Andreas , which is strange because they really have a big strong grip in Southern California, Possibly the Biggest. Especially in this present day, the death tolls since 2006 committed by the cartels has reached something like 40,000 deaths in Mexico and the U.S. This goes without saying a terrible tragedy but ever so suitable for a GTA game and since in life, bad things happen why not put it in V a video game. These guys are just violent, too violent! The cartels also get Mexican street gangs to do their dirty work for them, whilst the top cartels members are the brains who live in their mansions, or are fugitives.

I don't think the cartels were as active in the early 90s as they are now and there street branches still had to compete with the black and Asian gangs. The violence has really picked up now though ever since Mexico declared a war on drugs back in 06 and both legal and illegal immigration has swelled the Hispanic street gangs numbers on the streets to where they're pretty much the biggest sharks in the pond at this point. Its a must that gta include these factors in V. ms13, the surenos, nortenos, 18th street and the Mexican mafia as well as the dangerous cartels should all be depicted properly for this to be realistic

 

Btw, Monster is a f*cking fantastic read, it really shows you how crazy street life was and still is for full fledged gang members

Yeah you are right about that no doubt. I was recently checking up the heirachy of the Sinaloa Cartel, Mexico's most powerful drug trafficking organization. It's really interesting unlike the Mafia they have many leaders, then lieutenants that oversee different things such as hit squads. I even saw that the Zetas cartel actually have contacts with Guatemalan army officers to help set up training camps for the cartels hit squads and to find new recruits. Pretty scary stuff.

 

Seeing some of this stuff in GTA would be awesome and interesting. I mean Mafia wars are just strategic wars where about jalf a dozen people get killed over the range of years, in Mexico and southern California it's literally a war, Mexican standoff style only with 100 policemen V 100 cartel/gang members. Crazy, Crazy stuff.

Edited February 16, 2012 by Sanjeem

[SGT. Johnson]

Interesting topic. I didn't realize this was such a big debate since I don't visit the forum regularly. We can compare III to IV since they both are in Liberty City and SGT. Johnson pointed out that the Leone mob family do not cross "universes" to IV, did any other gangs from III show up in IV? The Triads, Yakuza or Jamaican gangs? I'll admit my GTA-fu is weak with details like this.

 

Colors were an important part of L.A. street gangs, so important that people got shot for wearing the wrong color. R* thought this was important when they made SA but they stayed away from the colors blue and red. I'll assume this was because R* didn't want to accociate too closely with the Bloods & Crips. If color isn't that important in modern L.A. gangs then maybe we'll see red and blue gangs in IV and they will have new names.

 

My guess is that R* will stay away from red & blue so what basic colors are left? Orange, yellow, green and purple. Orange and yellow are kinda weak so it's back to green and purple and it would be too weird to have those colors for gangs but totally different names. So I think the Ballas and Families will be back however the sets will be new and none of the SA characters will cross the "universe."

 

Hopefully the Angels of Death will be back since they are already in the IV "universe" and 1%er biker gangs started on the west coast. AOD=Hell's Angels? Hopefully The Lost returns as well but I suspect both would be minor because of TLAD. It's really a shame too because a GTA episode about outlaw biker gangs would fit much better in a west coast setting.

 

I think one of the biggest gangs in GTAV will have to be something based on MS13 or one of the other big Mexican gangs.

 

So I gotta agree with Trideez on this. Unless R* nutz up and has 2 new gangs in blue and red, it's going to be some form of the Ballas in purple and Families in green.

True; colors were so important that Rockstar even made an example of this when you started the game It was something like "Be careful what you wear around other gang turfs as that gang can become hostile depending upon what clothing you wear." I found evidence of this too when I played the game. I only started experimenting after I beat the game however. Anyways, I beat the game wearing all green, and went into a Ballas territory and got shot at immediately. I changed to black and then went back to the same area; didn't get shot but got provoked and then one eventually opened fire. Now, I went back there in a cop uniform and in my police car. The Ballas started pushing against my police car and it eventually got on fire (that was a nice touch). It seems however, that the Ballas are the only gang programmed to be extremely hostile to you in the game. Any other gang will start off with provocation before shooting or hitting you. I don't understand why the Los Aztecas acted like that since they were allied because of Cesar and Kendl with Grove Street.

 

You might be correct on R* staying away from Red and Blue, but, if they are truly going for realism, they will. Rockstar ar getting pretty ballsy so far; they've shown that there were dogs in the trailer; somethign that Rockstar said would cause too much controversy in IV. Now that they added it, perhaps they are not too afraid of the media now, or they want to make this the BEST GTA GAME TO DATE. I don't see why they won't use the actual colors at this point but only time will tell.

 

The Lost and AOD may return, but the Lost were really f*cked by the end of TLAD. That's the LC Chapter at least. The AOd, however, is a much more influential gang and are much more popular and an all around better gang than the Lost, which is hinted in TLAD. They most likely will return in V.

 

MS13, call me crazy but I don't study gangs. The name sounds familiar. Are these the guys that will kill you for saying sh*t about them and giving you a Columbian neck tie or a "proper burial"? I did see a show called "deadliest gangs" and they were number 1.

 

You can side with Trideez; what you stated in your last comment shows that it can go either way.

 

P.S: Thanks for the "interesting topic" comment. I try to post interesting topics that can pose a lot of discussion.

[SGT. Johnson]

A thought just occured: Will we see Cholo gangs in V?

[Trideez]

A thought just occured: Will we see Cholo gangs in V?

What are Cholo gangs?

[EscoLehGo]

A thought just occured: Will we see Cholo gangs in V?

Cholo as in Mexican American or Chicano? Absolutely bro, they're to heavy on the streets in real life not to be present in the game

[SGT. Johnson]

A thought just occured: Will we see Cholo gangs in V?

Cholo as in Mexican American or Chicano? Absolutely bro, they're to heavy on the streets in real life not to be present in the game

Not only that; the only time they were ever present in a GTA game was in VCS. They were quickly wiped out however, through the events of VCS.

 

Hmm, Cubans? Might as well go into other GTA games now to see what else we can expect.

[Hazelnot]

Why is this thread not a poll ? Also, the old Los Santos gangs simply were too cartoonish and unrealistic for the IV/HD universe. I highly doubt R* is gonna add some street gangs from the PS2 Era in GTA V. And if that would happen, they would be renamed and made more like the real Bloods and Crips.

 

 

read the words in green

[SGT. Johnson]

Why is this thread not a poll ? Also, the old Los Santos gangs simply were too cartoonish and unrealistic for the IV/HD universe. I highly doubt R* is gonna add some street gangs from the PS2 Era in GTA V. And if that would happen, they would be renamed and made more like the real Bloods and Crips.

 

 

read the words in green

As you request, so shall it be.

 

P.S: I understand what you are saying (South Park reference).

[Trideez]

Why is this thread not a poll ? Also, the old Los Santos gangs simply were too cartoonish and unrealistic for the IV/HD universe. I highly doubt R* is gonna add some street gangs from the PS2 Era in GTA V. And if that would happen, they would be renamed and made more like the real Bloods and Crips.

 

 

read the words in green

The Ballas and Families were too cartoonish and unrealistic???? Ummm, check out these Compton Crips and you might change your mind on that. I think R* did a great job of portraying the gangstas.

 

 

[Hazelnot]

I understand what you are saying (South Park reference).

I wasn't aware of any reference. I did it because it seemed funny.

[shitposter]

grove street is the first place im gonna visit when free roam satrts in the mains story just sayin

[SGT. Johnson]

I understand what you are saying (South Park reference).

I wasn't aware of any reference. I did it because it seemed funny.

My response was the SP reference.

 

PIMP: "You know what I'm sayin?"

 

BUTTERS: "I understand what you are saying".

[CheesyJ]

I don't see any of the gangs from SA returning to be honest, as this is obviously a completely new era from the III era that we previously had.

 

I actually wouldn't be surprised if some of the gangs from IV made an appearance in the game though. Some of the biker gangs would seem more likely though, because it's known that they have several chapters throughout the country.