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My Advice: play RDR.. Its an AMAZING! game (i'm still playing it). I dont think you will spoil anything about GTA V for you if you played RDR!! Dont waste your time.. Go Play RDR now! before GTA V comes out and talkes your entire time

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RDR is one of my top three favorite games of all time. It will only heighten your anticipation for V which will be in my top four favorite games.

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I know what you mean. The countryside in RDR is beautiful and gets your mind thinking about V's countryside. I'm pretty sure that the countryside in V is going to be way better than RDR. Just my hunch.

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Why would R* downgrade from a previous game? And a f*ck load of San Andreas's missions involved countryside/desert.

 

I definitely think the countryside/desert will be just as amazing as RDR, but I'm wondering if there will be any tweeks from RDR.

It's probably been said already in this thread, but...

 

It's not a matter of downgrading. RDR had almost NOTHING on the map, the majority of the map was just country. In GTA V, we have a massive city with cars/planes/pedestrians/crime/etc. It might be difficult to make the city look better than Liberty City, and have the country-side look as good as RDR. I'm not saying it can't be done, but, I wouldn't expect it to be as beautiful as New Austin.

 

Edit: Forgot to proof-read.

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Why would R* downgrade from a previous game? And a f*ck load of San Andreas's missions involved countryside/desert.

 

I definitely think the countryside/desert will be just as amazing as RDR, but I'm wondering if there will be any tweeks from RDR.

It's probably been said already in this thread, but...

 

It's not a matter of downgrading. RDR had almost NOTHING on the map, the majority of the map was just country. In GTA V, we have a massive city with cars/planes/pedestrians/crime/etc. It might be difficult to make the city look better than Liberty City, and have the country-side look as good as RDR. I'm not saying it can't be done, but, I wouldn't expect it to be as beautiful as New Austin.

 

Edit: Forgot to proof-read.

What kind of difficulties are there to limit the ability to make GTA V's rural regions as good as, if not better than, RDR's? having a massive city or not, doesn't have effect on the ability to make rural areas as good as RDR's at least, and having rural areas or not, doesn't have effect on the ability to make the city as good as IV's Liberty City at least. Without getting into a discussion about technical aspects, III's San Andreas had better graphics rendering than Vice City. It had more polygons, better textures and more varied visual effects, although it's bigger than Vice City, has more varied environments, and it's more populated with pedestrians and different kinds of vehicles.

 

You have a direct footage from GTA V's trailer. What can you see? worse-looking city than LC or the contrary? worse-looking countryside than RDR's or the contrary? before you say that it's just a cutscene, keep in mind that Rockstar uses their engine to render graphics during cutscenes.

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Ok, so here's the thing - and I'll try my best to explain my problem as best I can. Ever since I first played GTA IV back in '08, I've always wondered how amazing a revamped San Andreas would look with IVs graphics. And then the GTA V trailer was released. My first reaction was, "Holy f*ck, my prayers have been answered" (I realise it's not officially San Andreas yet, but it's obviously Los Santos and countryside)

 

Now, I recently purchased RDR after seeing all the positive references it was getting in this forum, and so far I've been more than impressed with this outstanding game.

 

My problem here is, I'm thinking to myself...'is this what the desert and countryside will be like in V?' - which would be f*cking awsome as the graphics and scenery in RDR are absolutely beautiful', and I'm then thinking...'this might be spoiling the release of V for me as it won't feel totally new in regards to countryside/desert, should I just put RDR back in its box and play after I've experienced the god that is V?'.

 

Obviously it will be a totally different map in V, but I'm just talking about experiencing a new RAGE countryside/desert.

 

Or do you think there will be any improvement in V from RDR?, and if so explain.

@ ScottishGuy

 

You only just bought and played Red Dead Redemption now ?? Are you serious man !!?? Where were you when RDR was first released, like one and half years ago ? Man, you are so later, you should have jumped on the bandwagon as soon as it came, RDR is one of the best games I have played on my PS3, I just love that game it is almost perfect in the kind of theme it portrays and how it works out. RDR is definitely a classic game in my books, it is pretty much the best Western-based game I have ever played.

 

Well better late than never !

 

And yeah there are many features from RDR that GTA V could and improve upon to make it a much more enjoyable experience than GTA IV.

Well I was tinkering with whether to buy RDR ever since it was released, but the western genre wasn't really my thing. Untill now.

 

Yep, this game is f*cking awesome, and I sincerely hope your right about the improvements in V. Not that there is much to improve on in regards to RDR, but just for experience purposes.

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@Death2Drugs  (Don't what to keep quoting everything)  That's the kind of thing I'd like to see with animals, Mountain Lions etc would add an interesting danger element to the countryside.

I'd love to see Mountain Lions in the game. They would be the equivalent to a cheetah in RDR. A dangerous, yet hilarious aspect to the game.

Be great wouldn't it, going for a nice gentle stroll up into the mountains and then out of nowhere a massive cat jumps down on you!

This would entertain me very much!

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Its like saying, by playing Midnight Club LA, will i be underwhelmed when playing Gta V. I know for a fact, no i wont. Two different games totally. Play away, friend.

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There are a lot more possibilities for V's countryside. V can include lakes, streams, more mountains, more real forests (like Tall Trees in RDR) rather than deserts, etc. You really don't have to worry about it. Even in the trailer I saw it was going to be different. If it were to be only forest, like in the trailer I wouldn't even mind and it will feel really different from RDR, I promise you that.

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I for one think RDR points out the way for making the perfect 3D virtual open world game, even the MultiPlayer trumps GTA IV's in many ways, but it's not perfection, just a better path then anyone, ANYWHERE....has come up with

See the new Playstation magazine yet? High praise is given on must own games, RDR and GTA IV included of course, 10 score, top games ever made

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f*ck it, I'm just going to get my head down and get on with RDR. I've been missing shooting deer and pushing hookers down the stairs at the saloon over the last couple of days.

 

Thanks for all the advice and general input folks. Let's hope alot of you are right in regards to the whole new countryside/desert in V being full of beautiful scenery to match or surpass that of RDR.

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Both great game but red dead's map is countryside and desert with towns in it and i think grand theft auto V will be a city with a countryside if you get what i mean

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Any PC GTA gaming fans should be over the moon if they can take some impossible advances on RDR over to PC, to me it would show that RDR can work if brought to PC platforms

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People might disagree but one of the main fails and reasons to why IV was crap compared to SA was because you where only in a city and their was no countryside or desert.

 

Ruined the game.

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Nope, no planes....but it didn't hurt RDR, and neither did the lack of tanks. You could glitch yourself to fall from a major height without a plane trip up, but it was solely a glitched fall, there was no control other then the camera as you fell

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People might disagree but one of the main fails and reasons to why IV was crap compared to SA was because you where only in a city and their was no countryside or desert.

 

Ruined the game.

Ruined the game? You mean the highest rated game the year it came out in 2008? Ruined? By no desert? No forest? Come on. rolleyes.gif

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People might disagree but one of the main fails and reasons to why IV was crap compared to SA was because you where only in a city and their was no countryside or desert.

 

Ruined the game.

Ruined the game? You mean the highest rated game the year it came out in 2008? Ruined? By no desert? No forest? Come on. rolleyes.gif

Exactly what I was thinking. His GTA experience must be limited to San Andreas and IV as I thought GTA III and Vice City were absolutely first class when they were released, f*ck, even GTA 1 + 2 gave me hours of fun, and they all never featured any countryside/desert.

 

It really does piss me off when you get these GTA noobs saying how sh*t IV was, simply because it was only city. They just didn't/don't appreciate the amazing ground-breaking graphics and physics that IV introduced to the gaming industry/world.

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People might disagree but one of the main fails and reasons to why IV was crap compared to SA was because you where only in a city and their was no countryside or desert.

 

Ruined the game.

Ruined the game? You mean the highest rated game the year it came out in 2008? Ruined? By no desert? No forest? Come on. rolleyes.gif

Exactly what I was thinking. His GTA experience must be limited to San Andreas and IV as I thought GTA III and Vice City were absolutely first class when they were released, f*ck, even GTA 1 + 2 gave me hours of fun, and they all never featured any countryside/desert.

 

It really does piss me off when you get these GTA noobs saying how sh*t IV was, simply because it was only city. They just didn't/don't appreciate the amazing ground-breaking graphics and physics that IV introduced to the gaming industry/world.

They don't understand Gta. I think people like you and me who have played gta since the beginning appreciate the game more.

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Red dead redemptions is a beautiful game and every bit of scenery is like a painting. I wouldn't hold on playing this game it's amazing the story is both epic and emotional. Like most people say it will get you pumped for V i honestly think Gta 5 will have very similar scenery as red dead if not better I can't wait jfkffjvkvjkfbgjbfshbgkjbffjhdkgkkgrrrrrr Shifty41s_beerhatsmilie2.gif

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Red dead redemptions is a beautiful game and every bit of scenery is like a painting. I wouldn't hold on playing this game it's amazing the story is both epic and emotional. Like most people say it will get you pumped for V i honestly think Gta 5 will have very similar scenery as red dead if not better I can't wait jfkffjvkvjkfbgjbfshbgkjbffjhdkgkkgrrrrrr Shifty41s_beerhatsmilie2.gif

Yeah I know what you mean about the emotional side. I've recently just completed the game and **SPOILER ALERT** can't believe Marston died at the end. It actually brought more of a tear to my eye than many of these bullsh*t films that are released these days.

 

R* definitely know how to put together a decent cinematic story. Which in turn is really wetting my lips for V.

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If I had it my way, Rockstar San Diego would make a GTA, and Rockstar North could make one, get the series moving out at a faster clip, in different graphical presentations, at least they ought to try something that way, with GTA Carcer City re-visioned I always felt, playing GTA 3 again, I still think it's a good idea

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If I had it my way, Rockstar San Diego would make a GTA, and Rockstar North could make one, get the series moving out at a faster clip, in different graphical presentations, at least they ought to try something that way, with GTA Carcer City re-visioned I always felt, playing GTA 3 again, I still think it's a good idea

Why not San Diego and North together?

 

They could make the best game in history!!!!

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Red Dead is awsome. And a lot more than just the countryside can be used as a model for GTA V. The gameplay overall was a lot smoother, the running, the movment, the graphics, the cover system. And the multiplayer freemode, which was much more refined, and had all the gang hideouts and fun little activites.

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What will impress me is the simple things, like JUST AS MANY birds as found in Red Dead make it in to GTA, when I played RDR and it got to the first complete starry night sky, I was nearly floored, it's that fantastic!!

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If I had it my way, Rockstar San Diego would make a GTA, and Rockstar North could make one, get the series moving out at a faster clip, in different graphical presentations, at least they ought to try something that way, with GTA Carcer City re-visioned I always felt, playing GTA 3 again, I still think it's a good idea

Why not San Diego and North together?

 

They could make the best game in history!!!!

I heard somewhere that some of San Diego's artists work together with North's. And I think every R* studio sent their best staff to Edinburgh (R* North) to make a collaboration work on GTA V.

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People might disagree but one of the main fails and reasons to why IV was crap compared to SA was because you where only in a city and their was no countryside or desert.

 

Ruined the game.

Ruined the game? You mean the highest rated game the year it came out in 2008? Ruined? By no desert? No forest? Come on. rolleyes.gif

Exactly what I was thinking. His GTA experience must be limited to San Andreas and IV as I thought GTA III and Vice City were absolutely first class when they were released, f*ck, even GTA 1 + 2 gave me hours of fun, and they all never featured any countryside/desert.

 

It really does piss me off when you get these GTA noobs saying how sh*t IV was, simply because it was only city. They just didn't/don't appreciate the amazing ground-breaking graphics and physics that IV introduced to the gaming industry/world.

dude gta4 failed cuz it was pretty much basically just like a boring realism real life simulator.

 

SA was so fun cuz it had stuff like hunger, exercising, flight school, driving school, learning how to fight, doing things more to get better at them (swimming and shooting),and zeros super fun toy airplane missions.

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GTA 2, great??

I dunno. Sometime I'll try GTA 1, it's free online, after all, but for me, the 3D is what I pine for in games, and I just gravitate to third person type games based in reality, I felt GTA 2 was looking for a futuristic edge

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People might disagree but one of the main fails and reasons to why IV was crap compared to SA was because you where only in a city and their was no countryside or desert.

 

Ruined the game.

Ruined the game? You mean the highest rated game the year it came out in 2008? Ruined? By no desert? No forest? Come on. rolleyes.gif

Exactly what I was thinking. His GTA experience must be limited to San Andreas and IV as I thought GTA III and Vice City were absolutely first class when they were released, f*ck, even GTA 1 + 2 gave me hours of fun, and they all never featured any countryside/desert.

 

It really does piss me off when you get these GTA noobs saying how sh*t IV was, simply because it was only city. They just didn't/don't appreciate the amazing ground-breaking graphics and physics that IV introduced to the gaming industry/world.

dude gta4 failed cuz it was pretty much basically just like a boring realism real life simulator.

 

SA was so fun cuz it had stuff like hunger, exercising, flight school, driving school, learning how to fight, doing things more to get better at them (swimming and shooting),and zeros super frustrating toy airplane missions.

fixed it for you

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