Red Dead Redemption/GTA V

[The Scottish Guy]

Edit: Sorry for bump, but it was either that or creating another thread.

 

Ok, so here's the thing - and I'll try my best to explain my problem as best I can. Ever since I first played GTA IV back in '08, I've always wondered how amazing a revamped San Andreas would look with IVs graphics. And then the GTA V trailer was released. My first reaction was, "Holy f*ck, my prayers have been answered" (I realise it's not officially San Andreas yet, but it's obviously Los Santos and countryside)

 

Now, I recently purchased RDR after seeing all the positive references it was getting in this forum, and so far I've been more than impressed with this outstanding game.

 

My problem here is, I'm thinking to myself...'is this what the desert and countryside will be like in V?' - which would be f*cking awsome as the graphics and scenery in RDR are absolutely beautiful', and I'm then thinking...'this might be spoiling the release of V for me as it won't feel totally new in regards to countryside/desert, should I just put RDR back in its box and play after I've experienced the god that is V?'.

 

Obviously it will be a totally different map in V, but I'm just talking about experiencing a new RAGE countryside/desert.

 

Or do you think there will be any improvement in V from RDR?, and if so explain.

Edited October 29, 2012 by The Scottish Guy

[CheesyJ]

I think that the countryside will be good in GTA V and will probably provide you with a lot of scenery, but at the same time, I don't expect it to be anywhere near as detailed as the countryside in RDR. Does that really matter though? No, I don't think so, because the emphasis of the game won't really be on the countryside. You may be given or two missions that involve it, as well as some other features and side missions that involve it, but a lot of what will happen in the game will take place within the city.

 

I do hope that the countryside is quite good though, even if it's not as good as it is in RDR. It would be disappointing if we had a large area of countryside, but it was left untouched and didn't actually give us anything to do while we were in it.

[The Scottish Guy]

I think that the countryside will be good in GTA V and will probably provide you with a lot of scenery, but at the same time, I don't expect it to be anywhere near as detailed as the countryside in RDR. Does that really matter though? No, I don't think so, because the emphasis of the game won't really be on the countryside. You may be given or two missions that involve it, as well as some other features and side missions that involve it, but a lot of what will happen in the game will take place within the city.

 

I do hope that the countryside is quite good though, even if it's not as good as it is in RDR. It would be disappointing if we had a large area of countryside, but it was left untouched and didn't actually give us anything to do while we were in it.

Hmmm, I appreciate your input, but I'm not so sure about your comment on the countryside being not as good as RDR. Why would R* downgrade from a previous game? And a f*ck load of San Andreas's missions involved countryside/desert.

 

I definitely think the countryside/desert will be just as amazing as RDR, but I'm wondering if there will be any tweeks from RDR.

[Patrizio]

I think that the countryside will be good in GTA V and will probably provide you with a lot of scenery, but at the same time, I don't expect it to be anywhere near as detailed as the countryside in RDR. Does that really matter though? No, I don't think so, because the emphasis of the game won't really be on the countryside. You may be given or two missions that involve it, as well as some other features and side missions that involve it, but a lot of what will happen in the game will take place within the city.

 

I do hope that the countryside is quite good though, even if it's not as good as it is in RDR. It would be disappointing if we had a large area of countryside, but it was left untouched and didn't actually give us anything to do while we were in it.

Hmmm, I appreciate your input, but I'm not so sure about your comment on the countryside being not as good as RDR. Why would R* downgrade from a previous game? And a f*ck load of San Andreas's missions involved countryside/desert.

 

I definitely think the countryside/desert will be just as amazing as RDR, but I'm wondering if there will be any tweeks from RDR.

My advice mate is play RDR! Its an awesome game and will not spoil V for you - if anything it'll pump you up more and give you something to play while you wait for V.

[GarrowsKai]

I think that the countryside will be good in GTA V and will probably provide you with a lot of scenery, but at the same time, I don't expect it to be anywhere near as detailed as the countryside in RDR. Does that really matter though? No, I don't think so, because the emphasis of the game won't really be on the countryside. You may be given or two missions that involve it, as well as some other features and side missions that involve it, but a lot of what will happen in the game will take place within the city.

 

I do hope that the countryside is quite good though, even if it's not as good as it is in RDR. It would be disappointing if we had a large area of countryside, but it was left untouched and didn't actually give us anything to do while we were in it.

Hmmm, I appreciate your input, but I'm not so sure about your comment on the countryside being not as good as RDR. Why would R* downgrade from a previous game? And a f*ck load of San Andreas's missions involved countryside/desert.

 

I definitely think the countryside/desert will be just as amazing as RDR, but I'm wondering if there will be any tweeks from RDR.

It might be downgraded simply because of space. RDR was pretty much JUST countryside therefore more processing power and memory could be afforded to it. GTA V however has a massive bustling metropolis with countless people and cars etc and this is the main aspect so if somewhere needed to be downgraded I reckon it would be the countryside. I hope it isn't of course but even though there will be a good number of mission taking place there it wont need to be as detailed as RDR to still retain a sense of authenticity.

[CheesyJ]

I think that the countryside will be good in GTA V and will probably provide you with a lot of scenery, but at the same time, I don't expect it to be anywhere near as detailed as the countryside in RDR. Does that really matter though? No, I don't think so, because the emphasis of the game won't really be on the countryside. You may be given or two missions that involve it, as well as some other features and side missions that involve it, but a lot of what will happen in the game will take place within the city.

 

I do hope that the countryside is quite good though, even if it's not as good as it is in RDR. It would be disappointing if we had a large area of countryside, but it was left untouched and didn't actually give us anything to do while we were in it.

Hmmm, I appreciate your input, but I'm not so sure about your comment on the countryside being not as good as RDR. Why would R* downgrade from a previous game? And a f*ck load of San Andreas's missions involved countryside/desert.

 

I definitely think the countryside/desert will be just as amazing as RDR, but I'm wondering if there will be any tweeks from RDR.

I'd say the only reason it wouldn't be as good would be because it won't have as important a role in GTA V as it did in RDR. A large part of the game took place in the countryside. Hunting, which was one of the main side ventures, really couldn't work without the countryside being used.

 

As I said, GTA V will have a different focus and a lot of the game will take place in the city. They may use some countryside at times, but I don't expect it to be as important in the game as it was in RDR. For that reason, they may not go into just as much depth with it as they did with RDR when it was being made.

[Beez]

Well Scottish Guy, I grew up in southern California and spent a lot of time riding dirt bikes in the deserts and mountains there. R* nailed it as far as the look and feel of the countryside. I've played RDR and thought, "oh this looks like Dove Springs" or "this looks like the terrain around Oakhurst." It perfectly captures the SoCal desert. It will be great.

[GarrowsKai]

I think that the countryside will be good in GTA V and will probably provide you with a lot of scenery, but at the same time, I don't expect it to be anywhere near as detailed as the countryside in RDR. Does that really matter though? No, I don't think so, because the emphasis of the game won't really be on the countryside. You may be given or two missions that involve it, as well as some other features and side missions that involve it, but a lot of what will happen in the game will take place within the city.

 

I do hope that the countryside is quite good though, even if it's not as good as it is in RDR. It would be disappointing if we had a large area of countryside, but it was left untouched and didn't actually give us anything to do while we were in it.

Hmmm, I appreciate your input, but I'm not so sure about your comment on the countryside being not as good as RDR. Why would R* downgrade from a previous game? And a f*ck load of San Andreas's missions involved countryside/desert.

 

I definitely think the countryside/desert will be just as amazing as RDR, but I'm wondering if there will be any tweeks from RDR.

My advice mate is play RDR! Its an awesome game and will not spoil V for you - if anything it'll pump you up more and give you something to play while you wait for V.

Fully agree! Don't put RDR away whatever you do, otherwise you could be waiting ages for GTA V!

[The Scottish Guy]

I think that the countryside will be good in GTA V and will probably provide you with a lot of scenery, but at the same time, I don't expect it to be anywhere near as detailed as the countryside in RDR. Does that really matter though? No, I don't think so, because the emphasis of the game won't really be on the countryside. You may be given or two missions that involve it, as well as some other features and side missions that involve it, but a lot of what will happen in the game will take place within the city.

 

I do hope that the countryside is quite good though, even if it's not as good as it is in RDR. It would be disappointing if we had a large area of countryside, but it was left untouched and didn't actually give us anything to do while we were in it.

Hmmm, I appreciate your input, but I'm not so sure about your comment on the countryside being not as good as RDR. Why would R* downgrade from a previous game? And a f*ck load of San Andreas's missions involved countryside/desert.

 

I definitely think the countryside/desert will be just as amazing as RDR, but I'm wondering if there will be any tweeks from RDR.

It might be downgraded simply because of space. RDR was pretty much JUST countryside therefore more processing power and memory could be afforded to it. GTA V however has a massive bustling metropolis with countless people and cars etc and this is the main aspect so if somewhere needed to be downgraded I reckon it would be the countryside. I hope it isn't of course but even though there will be a good number of mission taking place there it wont need to be as detailed as RDR to still retain a sense of authenticity.

This did cross my mind. And I was really REALLY hoping nobody would think the same lol. I guess only time will tell my friend.

[Death2Drugs]

I think that the countryside will be good in GTA V and will probably provide you with a lot of scenery, but at the same time, I don't expect it to be anywhere near as detailed as the countryside in RDR. Does that really matter though? No, I don't think so, because the emphasis of the game won't really be on the countryside. You may be given or two missions that involve it, as well as some other features and side missions that involve it, but a lot of what will happen in the game will take place within the city.

 

I do hope that the countryside is quite good though, even if it's not as good as it is in RDR. It would be disappointing if we had a large area of countryside, but it was left untouched and didn't actually give us anything to do while we were in it.

Hmmm, I appreciate your input, but I'm not so sure about your comment on the countryside being not as good as RDR. Why would R* downgrade from a previous game? And a f*ck load of San Andreas's missions involved countryside/desert.

 

I definitely think the countryside/desert will be just as amazing as RDR, but I'm wondering if there will be any tweeks from RDR.

It might be downgraded simply because of space. RDR was pretty much JUST countryside therefore more processing power and memory could be afforded to it. GTA V however has a massive bustling metropolis with countless people and cars etc and this is the main aspect so if somewhere needed to be downgraded I reckon it would be the countryside. I hope it isn't of course but even though there will be a good number of mission taking place there it wont need to be as detailed as RDR to still retain a sense of authenticity.

This did cross my mind. And I was really REALLY hoping nobody would think the same lol. I guess only time will tell my friend.

I think that V countryside will look beautiful. It will look a lot better compared to the lifeless scenery of GTA: San Andreas they called "Countryside".

[Slamman]

Well, as I mentioned, RDR is my most favorite Rockstar game yet, and in a manner of evolution, it's pointing to many excellent games to come, but it's Rockstar San Diego, not North, or the other branches, so expect GTA to really look similar in style to past GTAs, graphics play a major part in how a game looks in it's entirety, including animations, so don't be quick to dismiss graphics of gaming!

[GarrowsKai]

I think that the countryside will be good in GTA V and will probably provide you with a lot of scenery, but at the same time, I don't expect it to be anywhere near as detailed as the countryside in RDR. Does that really matter though? No, I don't think so, because the emphasis of the game won't really be on the countryside. You may be given or two missions that involve it, as well as some other features and side missions that involve it, but a lot of what will happen in the game will take place within the city.

 

I do hope that the countryside is quite good though, even if it's not as good as it is in RDR. It would be disappointing if we had a large area of countryside, but it was left untouched and didn't actually give us anything to do while we were in it.

Hmmm, I appreciate your input, but I'm not so sure about your comment on the countryside being not as good as RDR. Why would R* downgrade from a previous game? And a f*ck load of San Andreas's missions involved countryside/desert.

 

I definitely think the countryside/desert will be just as amazing as RDR, but I'm wondering if there will be any tweeks from RDR.

It might be downgraded simply because of space. RDR was pretty much JUST countryside therefore more processing power and memory could be afforded to it. GTA V however has a massive bustling metropolis with countless people and cars etc and this is the main aspect so if somewhere needed to be downgraded I reckon it would be the countryside. I hope it isn't of course but even though there will be a good number of mission taking place there it wont need to be as detailed as RDR to still retain a sense of authenticity.

This did cross my mind. And I was really REALLY hoping nobody would think the same lol. I guess only time will tell my friend.

I think that V countryside will look beautiful. It will look a lot better compared to the lifeless scenery of GTA: San Andreas they called "Countryside".

I hope it is more alive. I think having horses and maybe a smattering of other wild animals would be good to help bring the countryside to life. Just so long as it isn't to over the top, wild animals should be a really rare occurrence as they are in real life.

[The Scottish Guy]

Well Scottish Guy, I grew up in southern California and spent a lot of time riding dirt bikes in the deserts and mountains there. R* nailed it as far as the look and feel of the countryside. I've played RDR and thought, "oh this looks like Dove Springs" or "this looks like the terrain around Oakhurst." It perfectly captures the SoCal desert. It will be great.

Yep, R* definitely know how to replicate an enviroment/climate/general feel to it's finest detail.

[Death2Drugs]

Well, as I mentioned, RDR is my most favorite Rockstar game yet, and in a manner of evolution, it's pointing to many excellent games to come, but it's Rockstar San Diego, not North, or the other branches, so expect GTA to really look similar in style to past GTAs, graphics play a major part in how a game looks in it's entirety, including animations, so don't be quick to dismiss graphics of gaming!

The whole "Can R* North create a countryside like R* San Diego?" thing was in another thread. To put it in my opinion: yes. I think both will definitely work on the game. North obviously because they've been making these games for a long time, and San Diego because of their familiarity to the Southern California area.

[Slamman]

It's entirely unknown outside of trailer comparisons, but to me it is visually noted, I've spent countless hours playing RDR online and off, and it's tops, you can't get more detail into a game, I'm convinced for the consoles, it's maxing it out

[Death2Drugs]

I think that the countryside will be good in GTA V and will probably provide you with a lot of scenery, but at the same time, I don't expect it to be anywhere near as detailed as the countryside in RDR. Does that really matter though? No, I don't think so, because the emphasis of the game won't really be on the countryside. You may be given or two missions that involve it, as well as some other features and side missions that involve it, but a lot of what will happen in the game will take place within the city.

 

I do hope that the countryside is quite good though, even if it's not as good as it is in RDR. It would be disappointing if we had a large area of countryside, but it was left untouched and didn't actually give us anything to do while we were in it.

Hmmm, I appreciate your input, but I'm not so sure about your comment on the countryside being not as good as RDR. Why would R* downgrade from a previous game? And a f*ck load of San Andreas's missions involved countryside/desert.

 

I definitely think the countryside/desert will be just as amazing as RDR, but I'm wondering if there will be any tweeks from RDR.

It might be downgraded simply because of space. RDR was pretty much JUST countryside therefore more processing power and memory could be afforded to it. GTA V however has a massive bustling metropolis with countless people and cars etc and this is the main aspect so if somewhere needed to be downgraded I reckon it would be the countryside. I hope it isn't of course but even though there will be a good number of mission taking place there it wont need to be as detailed as RDR to still retain a sense of authenticity.

This did cross my mind. And I was really REALLY hoping nobody would think the same lol. I guess only time will tell my friend.

I think that V countryside will look beautiful. It will look a lot better compared to the lifeless scenery of GTA: San Andreas they called "Countryside".

I hope it is more alive. I think having horses and maybe a smattering of other wild animals would be good to help bring the countryside to life. Just so long as it isn't to over the top, wild animals should be a really rare occurrence as they are in real life.

I think it will be realistic. For example, pumas will live on the mountains, black bears may roam the desert (yes, they are known to live in the desert), dogs will be mainly restricted to urban areas and deer will roam the mountains.

[GarrowsKai]

@Death2Drugs (Don't what to keep quoting everything) That's the kind of thing I'd like to see with animals, Mountain Lions etc would add an interesting danger element to the countryside.

[InstantCClassic]

@Death2Drugs (Don't what to keep quoting everything) That's the kind of thing I'd like to see with animals, Mountain Lions etc would add an interesting danger element to the countryside.

I'd love to see Mountain Lions in the game. They would be the equivalent to a cheetah in RDR. A dangerous, yet hilarious aspect to the game.

[Official General]

Ok, so here's the thing - and I'll try my best to explain my problem as best I can. Ever since I first played GTA IV back in '08, I've always wondered how amazing a revamped San Andreas would look with IVs graphics. And then the GTA V trailer was released. My first reaction was, "Holy f*ck, my prayers have been answered" (I realise it's not officially San Andreas yet, but it's obviously Los Santos and countryside)

 

Now, I recently purchased RDR after seeing all the positive references it was getting in this forum, and so far I've been more than impressed with this outstanding game.

 

My problem here is, I'm thinking to myself...'is this what the desert and countryside will be like in V?' - which would be f*cking awsome as the graphics and scenery in RDR are absolutely beautiful', and I'm then thinking...'this might be spoiling the release of V for me as it won't feel totally new in regards to countryside/desert, should I just put RDR back in its box and play after I've experienced the god that is V?'.

 

Obviously it will be a totally different map in V, but I'm just talking about experiencing a new RAGE countryside/desert.

 

Or do you think there will be any improvement in V from RDR?, and if so explain.

@ ScottishGuy

 

You only just bought and played Red Dead Redemption now ?? Are you serious man !!?? Where were you when RDR was first released, like one and half years ago ? Man, you are so later, you should have jumped on the bandwagon as soon as it came, RDR is one of the best games I have played on my PS3, I just love that game it is almost perfect in the kind of theme it portrays and how it works out. RDR is definitely a classic game in my books, it is pretty much the best Western-based game I have ever played.

 

Well better late than never !

 

And yeah there are many features from RDR that GTA V could and improve upon to make it a much more enjoyable experience than GTA IV.

[GarrowsKai]

@Death2Drugs  (Don't what to keep quoting everything)  That's the kind of thing I'd like to see with animals, Mountain Lions etc would add an interesting danger element to the countryside.

I'd love to see Mountain Lions in the game. They would be the equivalent to a cheetah in RDR. A dangerous, yet hilarious aspect to the game.

Be great wouldn't it, going for a nice gentle stroll up into the mountains and then out of nowhere a massive cat jumps down on you!

[CheesyJ]

@Death2Drugs  (Don't what to keep quoting everything)  That's the kind of thing I'd like to see with animals, Mountain Lions etc would add an interesting danger element to the countryside.

I'd love to see Mountain Lions in the game. They would be the equivalent to a cheetah in RDR. A dangerous, yet hilarious aspect to the game.

What would be even funnier would be if R* kept it completely secret and didn't tell anyone that they'd be in the game, and while exploring someone was suddenly attacked by one. Would be a massive, unexpected shock.

[GarrowsKai]

@Death2Drugs  (Don't what to keep quoting everything)  That's the kind of thing I'd like to see with animals, Mountain Lions etc would add an interesting danger element to the countryside.

I'd love to see Mountain Lions in the game. They would be the equivalent to a cheetah in RDR. A dangerous, yet hilarious aspect to the game.

What would be even funnier would be if R* kept it completely secret and didn't tell anyone that they'd be in the game, and while exploring someone was suddenly attacked by one. Would be a massive, unexpected shock.

That has to happen! They should even leave it out of any pre release copies sent to the critics and magazines so they cant blow it!

[Isuck100%]

@Death2Drugs  (Don't what to keep quoting everything)  That's the kind of thing I'd like to see with animals, Mountain Lions etc would add an interesting danger element to the countryside.

I'd love to see Mountain Lions in the game. They would be the equivalent to a cheetah in RDR. A dangerous, yet hilarious aspect to the game.

What would be even funnier would be if R* kept it completely secret and didn't tell anyone that they'd be in the game, and while exploring someone was suddenly attacked by one. Would be a massive, unexpected shock.

That has to happen! They should even leave it out of any pre release copies sent to the critics and magazines so they cant blow it!

Then the forums would spoil it for you. People get copies early.

[GarrowsKai]

@Death2Drugs  (Don't what to keep quoting everything)  That's the kind of thing I'd like to see with animals, Mountain Lions etc would add an interesting danger element to the countryside.

I'd love to see Mountain Lions in the game. They would be the equivalent to a cheetah in RDR. A dangerous, yet hilarious aspect to the game.

What would be even funnier would be if R* kept it completely secret and didn't tell anyone that they'd be in the game, and while exploring someone was suddenly attacked by one. Would be a massive, unexpected shock.

That has to happen! They should even leave it out of any pre release copies sent to the critics and magazines so they cant blow it!

Then the forums would spoil it for you. People get copies early.

I'll keep off the forums for a month or two before the release ha, I want as many surprises as possible not just the animal thing

[wildstyle91]

I've never played RDR, so I am hoping to be blown away by the V countryside. I am sick of the IV city because it gets dull as there is no green areas.

 

It is a shame they never released RDR on PC.

[Official General]

I've never played RDR, so I am hoping to be blown away by the V countryside. I am sick of the IV city because it gets dull as there is no green areas.

 

It is a shame they never released RDR on PC.

Get yourself a PS3 or 360 and play that game, its amazing to play, its just pure excellence. You PC gamers should stop living in denial, the best games can only be played on consoles, don't deprive yourselves because of stupid format loyalties.

[Dick Valor]

I expect V to have a better city than IV and a better countryside than RDR. For one thing, it will be modern countryside, with lots of new details that couldn't be included in RDR (e.g., power lines, power stations, state prisons, windmill farms, oil wells, industrial farms/slaughterhouses, junk yards, isolated gas stations/motels, a military base, abandoned air strips, etc.). The countryside probably won't be as diverse as RDR since it's based on SoCal, but it should have desert, beaches, and mountains with a mix of forest and chaparral vegetation. The desert may have areas that are more barren and areas that are more exotic, such as around Joshua Tree. Also, V's countryside could include some of the Channel Islands off the coast of L.A. (such as Catalina Island). This would introduce new marine environments like Cali's famous kelp forests, which support sea otters, seals, and, at top, great white sharks. So, V's countryside has extraordinary potential.

 

Then there's the city, which will hopefully be enriched by more interiors and the presence of animals, though only dogs are confirmed so far. I would play IV and RDR to your heart's content this year as V looks like it is going to blow them both away.

[locolow2011]

Well RDR was made by R* San Diego and V is being made by R* North, so i believe it will be different and similar at the same time.

But it will be good i can guarantee you that. I'm from Mexico and when i got to Escalera i almost felt like i've been there before(even though its a fictional town)

 

[Magic_Al]

The glimpses of countryside in the trailer look just as good as Red Dead Redemption to me. The different ratios of countryside to city in GTA don't matter too much. If you think about it RDR has a large variety of buildings and so it has to have a lot of building material textures and windows and doors and so forth, even though it's mostly countryside. GTA V will have to have a lot of trees and rocks and grass and flowers. There are probably a surprising number of "countryside" assets in GTA IV even though it's all city, because of the parks and coasts. GTA V is also set in a smaller area than RDR. RDR had to look like everywhere from the Rocky Mountains to South Dakota to Texas to Mexico. GTA V is just southern California in the vicinity of Los Angeles. That limits the types of land and plants needed.

[StockLoc]

Ok, so here's the thing - and I'll try my best to explain my problem as best I can. Ever since I first played GTA IV back in '08, I've always wondered how amazing a revamped San Andreas would look with IVs graphics. And then the GTA V trailer was released. My first reaction was, "Holy f*ck, my prayers have been answered" (I realise it's not officially San Andreas yet, but it's obviously Los Santos and countryside)

 

Now, I recently purchased RDR after seeing all the positive references it was getting in this forum, and so far I've been more than impressed with this outstanding game.

 

My problem here is, I'm thinking to myself...'is this what the desert and countryside will be like in V?' - which would be f*cking awsome as the graphics and scenery in RDR are absolutely beautiful', and I'm then thinking...'this might be spoiling the release of V for me as it won't feel totally new in regards to countryside/desert, should I just put RDR back in its box and play after I've experienced the god that is V?'.

 

Obviously it will be a totally different map in V, but I'm just talking about experiencing a new RAGE countryside/desert.

 

Or do you think there will be any improvement in V from RDR?, and if so explain.

After 300+ hours of RDR, I can say my friend that V has better graphics than RDR. The dust is much more realistic and just looking at the dirt I can tell it's better.

 

No, it will not spoil so don't put it back in the fridge.

 

-Stock Loc