ningen Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 So basicly I've tryed everything ant the game frate just drops after five minutes of gameplay or so. My specs are Acer Aspire 5742G Laptop CPU: Intel i5 480M 2,6Ghz GPU: nVidia GeForce GT540M 2GB RAM: 4GB HDD: 750GB HDD I mean, I've suspected that it could be the memory leak, tryed adding those memrestrict commands (-memrestrict 681574400 etc.), tryed disabling Windows Event Log and Windows Event Colector, tryed varyous memory fixing programs, so basicly tryed everything and the framerate just drops down until the line the game is not even playable. This happens only with GTA IV, other games work just fine, like never drops below 40fps on COD, Battlefield, Mafia II etc. Any ideas ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luceberg Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 My guess is that the cpu is overheating. To find out, use HWMonitor(google it) to find the temperatures during the game. You want to hit about 90C at most, preferably in the 80's or less. Throttling will happen around 100C. Raise the back of the laptop to let air circulate will help, or buy an aftermarket cooler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extronic Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 My guess is that the cpu is overheating. To find out, use HWMonitor(google it) to find the temperatures during the game. You want to hit about 90C at most, preferably in the 80's or less. Throttling will happen around 100C. I got up to 97-99C playing IV at i5-2410M, no drops noticed (aside from that i get miserable 15-20 fps at stock settings of Radeon 6850M). Too bad HWMonitor catches max values, not average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exxon Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 That's your problem right there, with that temperature your CPU is throttling to reduce the temperatures. See if you can get any better cooling by putting the laptop on top of something, or buy a laptop cooler or whatever they call it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luceberg Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I got up to 97-99C playing IV at i5-2410M, no drops noticed (aside from that i get miserable 15-20 fps at stock settings of Radeon 6850M). Too bad HWMonitor catches max values, not average. 15-20fps is about right, but you can improve on that by turning down the graphics settings. I would suggest medium textures, medium shadows, night shadows off, high water, high reflections, x4 anisotropic, 25 view , 30 detail. Thought you had a GT540M... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extronic Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 luceberg Exxon i dunno if you guys noticed but we are 2 different persons here. What i did was high textures, high shadows, night shadows on, medium water, medium reflections, x4 anisotropic, 50 view , 50 detail. What was really heplful without lowering the settings is overclocking the GPU, getting rid of this pointless bloom effect (gives me stable 25 fps which is acceptable). However, it didnt help with the memory leak, resulted in textures pop-ups for me. The OP has a problem of fps dropped dramatically, and that could be because of anything, including memory leaks. Speaking on topic, try to see whats the temperatures you get while playing (HWMonitor and MSI Afterburner apps are really useful on this), becuz CPU tends to lower its frequency while approaching harmful temperatures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unc13bud Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 What i did was high textures, high shadows, night shadows on, medium water, medium reflections, x4 anisotropic, 50 view , 50 detail. What was really heplful without lowering the settings is overclocking the GPU, getting rid of this pointless bloom effect (gives me stable 25 fps which is acceptable). However, it didnt help with the memory leak, resulted in textures pop-ups for me. just because your laptop is working and playing gta IV fine today, doesn't mean it will continue to do it forever (or even next week) i dunno if you guys noticed but we are 2 different persons here. you busted up in another person's thread posting a computer problem, i can see why anyone would be confused. creating your own computer problem threads will put a stop to that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exxon Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Like bud says, I didn't notice. But you too both seem to have a problem, and your problem is overheating. As for the OP, he should check for overheating problems and report back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ningen Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) Thank you everyone for your answers and suggestions, I'll try to monitor my CPU/GPU temperatures and let you know. EDIT: OK, so I used HWMonitor to see the temperatures At the moment I got my GTA IV deleted and don't have an opportunity to install it right now, so I've tested the temperatures while playing Alan Wake (Got it today from steam, awesome game guys). These are the temps I got. Low settings, fps wont decrease lower than 30fps, on some occasions I get 40+ fps. Just randomly came to my mind, can't it be that after some time the game switches the GPU from my GT540M to integrated graphics and that causes the lag ? Edited February 16, 2012 by ningen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unc13bud Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 optimus chipsets are know for doing that and all other sorts of glitchy stuff, so i wouldn't be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeesPwnMets Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 200F and you keep playing? Insane. I highly suggest that you never push a laptop like that again. Get a cooler with fans. Mesh only coolers. won't help. Get a cooler with fans, play it in a cool room (not in a room where it is roasting) and give the laptop some airflow. You're gonna kill it if you keep choking it like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ningen Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 Awww geez. I havent bought this laptop to live for it. The laptop should live for me. I have it for a half of year now and I played lots of games (Crysis 2, Fallout 3, Bioshock 2, Blur, Need for speed:Hot pursuit and so on) and I saw that the laptop throws out a lot of heat through the venting area,nevertheless I havent had any roblems with this laptop, the only thing It could not run was GTA IV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverTheBelow Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 200F and you keep playing? Insane. I highly suggest that you never push a laptop like that again. Get a cooler with fans. Mesh only coolers. won't help. Get a cooler with fans, play it in a cool room (not in a room where it is roasting) and give the laptop some airflow. You're gonna kill it if you keep choking it like that. I have the same laptop and it is pretty much inevitable the laptop getting above 90C on the processor even with a notebook cooler underneath. It can hit 97C in Crysis 2 without a notebook cooler, which is why I just decided to keep Turbo Boost permanently disabled as it stays under 85C most of the time after that. The extra 300mhz from it doesn't do sh*t for performance in games, but make the temperature so much higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ningen Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) 200F and you keep playing? Insane. I highly suggest that you never push a laptop like that again. Get a cooler with fans. Mesh only coolers. won't help. Get a cooler with fans, play it in a cool room (not in a room where it is roasting) and give the laptop some airflow. You're gonna kill it if you keep choking it like that. I have the same laptop and it is pretty much inevitable the laptop getting above 90C on the processor even with a notebook cooler underneath. It can hit 97C in Crysis 2 without a notebook cooler, which is why I just decided to keep Turbo Boost permanently disabled as it stays under 85C most of the time after that. The extra 300mhz from it doesn't do sh*t for performance in games, but make the temperature so much higher. So you say that disabling turboboost in BIOS makes laptop more stable and it produces less heat ? EDIT: Ok, so I turned off turbo boost (allthough not through bios but through power options) and temperatures no longer reach 90+ temperatures. While playing alan wake max temperature was 80'C. This is awesome ! Tomorrow I head back to the town where I am studying and once again install GTA IV and let you guys know whether the stuttering in GTA IV was caused because of huge temperatures. Edited February 17, 2012 by ningen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ningen Posted February 19, 2012 Author Share Posted February 19, 2012 O.K. so I installed GTA IV yet again, but the problem is the same. Still after 10 minutes or so fps decreases from 30+ to 10 to 20. And the temperatures are not at fault, because they don't even reach 90'C. Any (more) ideas ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exxon Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 You could try the commandline switch and see if it helps. Also, try patch 4 instead of 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ningen Posted February 19, 2012 Author Share Posted February 19, 2012 (edited) I am using 1.0.4.0 patch EDIT: O.K. so while I was playing it and it started stuttering again. So I turned on task manager, opened performance tab and in the "Physical memory" area next to the "Free" the number was 0. I suspect this is why it starts to lag because when I start the game there are 1000+ Free Physical Memory. So this is definitely memory leak, yes? Also, when I am playing the amount of RAM being used is 2,7GB. Is this normal ? Edited February 20, 2012 by ningen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now