I've come to a decision

[GarrowsKai]

 

Yes, R* is only going for the quick profit.  That's why we see a new GTA game every 18 months just like Call of Du--wait a minute...it's been four years since the release of GTA IV?  And more than two years since the release of the second DLC for GTA IV?  Isn't that basically the total opposite of "just going for the quick profit"?  They could easily force feed the public GTA after GTA if they wanted to.  But they're not...why?  Because they're trying to make a good game.

 

You say I'm "making excuses for their cowardice and laziness"...how so?  Because I like the directions that they've gone to in the past?  I believe they're omitting certain things (like children) not because they're cowards, but because they actually think the game is better without them.

 

Also, you referred to Skyrim, but I have never played it or even seen anything besides the commercials.  What exactly did they put into the game that you're referring to?

 

You said the "GTA franchise has a big enough following that they could get away with anything now"...maybe they don't want to?  Maybe they don't think it's the right direction for the franchise. 

 

If I'm a facist for saying "if you've said to yourself 'I need to be able to kill kids' you're probably a little messed up and shouldn't be playing GTA in the first place" then so be it.  That's my opinion.  Enjoy your time rebelling against "the man", bro.

 

"If killing people is okay, then everything is fair game".  Really?  So since we're able to have sex with hookers in the game, we should be able to rape random women walking down the street too?  Hell if we're going to have children in the game, we should probably be able to rape them too since it's all the same...right?  They're just pixels, after all.  Still seems pretty f*cked up if you ask me.

 

In my opinion killing people doesn't make everything fair game.

- You really think R* spent the whole four years working on GTA? You're dumber than I thought. They've been pumping out all sorts of other garbage in the mean time, from multiple "studios", and of that 4 years they only spent approx. 2 actually developing the game. That's why V still has IV graphics, they haven't been working on it as long as you all think. Bigger games have been made in less time, so time and money aren't the issue here.

 

- Seems to me I am argueing for more features, and you for some reason want less. If restriction is the direction you want GTA to go, then good for you

 

- As for Skyrim, I suggest you give it a try and you'll see what CAN be done if a company is willing to take the time and put in the effort. It's insanely detailed, and full of all sorts of unecessary sh*t.

Speaking of the arguement that GTA doesn't need to put in children or animals because they're not necessary, I ask you all: Was all the IG television in IV necessary? Was going to the cabaret necessary? Were helitours, or bowling, or taxi missions? I would much rather have seen animals than Katt Williams. So obviously necessity isn't an issue either.

 

- And I say you're a facist because you imply that, because my sense of morality about digital children is different than yours, that I shouldn't be playing the game. You sir, are a douchebag. Your opinion does not transcend time and space and alter where it stands, and quite frankly if you can't tell the moral difference between digital children and real ones I'd say you're the ones that's "messed up" and you need to get a grip on reality. It's all just lines of code son, if I could rape people in GTA I'd laugh my ass off. Doesn't mean it'd be funny in real life, but the two aren't connected (for us Sane people anyway).

 

- I think, because video games are a type of artform, that nobody should be allowed to suggest something can't be included, no matter how YOU feel about it being a self-righteous goof. Now I got a life to lead, so I'll leave it at that.

 

@EscoLehGo: I am 28 years old. If you can't see the fun in throwing a baby stroller off a bridge into traffic with good ol' ragtime physics, then I suggest you run out to the nearest ATM, take out all your money, and go buy yourself a sense of humor

R* North, who produce the GTA series of games have not been pumping out other games over the last four years you incredible moron, they did the DLC for IV and then helped on the development of RDR, so where is this garbage you talk about? They have a number of different studios all working on different projects which is a good thing as it means they have the capital to support long game development processes such as with GTA while leaving an entire studio free to create the game. They certainly do not just pump out the games for quick profit!

You really are a bit messed up if you actually want to include children in the game, as has been mentioned before there is nothing to be gained from including them. That isn't to say they should do away with all of the extra bits that don't add to the plot, they just shouldn't add stuff in for shock value. I think other people have mentioned the fact that you don't even notice the lack of children in the games when you're playing them, and if you do you are thinking about acting out some insane fantasies a bit too much. Same with the rape issue, that is pretty abhorrent to want that in, and it isn't a question of it just being pixels, it's the same reason you can't torture people in these games, it's totally sadistic plain and simple. I'm an adult so I want an adult themed game which includes crime and killing but there is a limit. Killing an animated creation is one thing because it is done in a second, it's like. 'bang, dead'. The other mental stuff you go on about like pushing a pram off a bridge is just plain sick, and rape takes time. Maybe the creators don't want to code in the animation for a rape scene, have you ever thought about that? It isn't that they're cowards it's that they have a sense of morality. That is why most of the game is very satirical.

Just because something is classed as art does not mean everything is fair game.

 

Edit: The V trailer still has IV graphics because it uses the same hardware, there is only so much you can do with the current crop of consoles!

[ThirstyHyena]

Killing humans in a video game right, but killing animals wrong? You guys are funny.

[Big_Mitch_Baker]

 

but there is a limit.

Well that's the difference between you and me, you are limited.

 

It's like I'm dealin' with the Parade of Idiots over here...Let me try to explain this in a way you can grasp son. RDR, I Include it in the "garbage". We've been pretty much playing various incarnations of Grand Theft Auto III for a long time now. So they stole the cover system from Gears of War and stuck it in IV, Bravo! And graphically it wasn't anything special even in its time. I still rather play San Andreas to be honest. I assume most of R* staff sit on their thumbs most of the day, seeing how much harder the guys at Bethesda work. And of course it's for the profit, that's why they waited 'till TBoGT to give us sh*t like Parachutes so they could milk it hard. In the end, they all sell out to profits.

 

As for the "technical limits" of the currect consoles, I'd say that's B.S. 'cause there are some big and beautiful games out there that make IV look like puke in comparison. It's the gameplay itself that keeps GTA ahead of the pack, and I feel that R* is taking huge steps backwards in Sandbox gameplay. I don't want to play out your lame storylines with your stolen characters, I don't want to be told that dogs or children can't exist because some moron without an imagination can't fathom how someone might think it was fun, and increased the interactivity of the game world. What a sad sad day for the advancement of video games

 

As for morality, I'm sure killing someone and having their corpse dismembered and sold to a doctor for money is the height of ethics to you (GTA IV: Have a Heart) Don't try and sell me on the moral superiority of R*, as far as we know the whole team is out molesting filipino school children as we speak . I'm not saying they should really take the time to code in Rape, but children and animals? It'd take no time at all to replace a few ped models and anims. As for pushing them off stuff, you can already do that in GTA. And the fact that you'd think these things are abhorrent means you should go get your ovaries checked and put on your big girl panties. It's a video game, you really gonna be shocked if you saw it happen in GTA? Then you are gonna have a hard time in life with this thing called "reality", 'cause it's much worse than anything you see in a video game. Go cry about the rainforest hippy. I get the feeling you're the kinda goof that would hear a Dead Baby joke and would get offended while everyone else was laughing. It's not real man, it's not connected to reality OR morality in any way and if you think it is than you are insane.

Edited February 14, 2012 by Big_Mitch_Baker

[GarrowsKai]

but there is a limit.

Well that's the difference between you and me, you are limited.

 

It's like I'm dealin' with the Parade of Idiots over here...Let me try to explain this in a way you can grasp son. RDR, I Include it in the "garbage". We've been pretty much playing various incarnations of Grand Theft Auto III for a long time now. So they stole the cover system from Gears of War and stuck it in IV, Bravo! And graphically it wasn't anything special even in its time. I still rather play San Andreas to be honest. I assume most of R* staff sit on their thumbs most of the day, seeing how much harder the guys at Bethesda work. And of course it's for the profit, that's why they waited 'till TBoGT to give us sh*t like Parachutes so they could milk it hard. In the end, they all sell out to profits.

 

As for the "technical limits" of the currect consoles, I'd say that's B.S. 'cause there are some big and beautiful games out there that make IV look like puke in comparison. It's the gameplay itself that keeps GTA ahead of the pack, and I feel that R* is taking huge steps backwards in Sandbox gameplay. I don't want to play out your lame storylines with your stolen characters, I don't want to be told that dogs or children can't exist because some moron without an imagination can't fathom how someone might think it was fun, and increased the interactivity of the game world. What a sad sad day for the advancement of video games

 

As for morality, I'm sure killing someone and having their corpse dismembered and sold to a doctor for money is the height of ethics to you (GTA IV: Have a Heart) Don't try and sell me on the moral superiority of R*, as far as we know the whole team is out molesting filipino school children as we speak . I'm not saying they should really take the time to code in Rape, but children and animals? It'd take no time at all to replace a few ped models and anims. As for pushing them off stuff, you can already do that in GTA. And the fact that you'd think these things are abhorrent means you should go get your ovaries checked and put on your big girl panties. It's a video game, you really gonna be shocked if you saw it happen in GTA? Then you are gonna have a hard time in life with this thing called "reality", 'cause it's much worse than anything you see in a video game. Go cry about the rainforest hippy. I get the feeling you're the kinda goof that would hear a Dead Baby joke and would get offended while everyone else was laughing. It's not real man, it's not connected to reality OR morality in any way and if you think it is than you are insane.

Right, I'm the one who is limited because I don't really want to have a game where I kill children. And the Have a Heart mission, the organ stealing in only mentioned, you don't actually see it happen. If you think RDR is garbage then that is your opinion and you are free to think it, however the overwhelmingly positive response to it from both critics and the public proves that the majority think it is a good game.

Yes they want to make a profit but this isn't EA we're talking about who year after year bring out a new version of the same Fifa/Madden game, the R* developers want to also make a brilliant game, which is what they are doing.

What are these 'big and beautiful' games? Yes games like GoW have better graphics but that is because they are more linear, as opposed to a massive open living world with no loading screens. Therefore it is easier to make a number of smaller levels look good than one large map, even if they take up the exact same amount of space overall.

And of course I am the moron without an imagination because, as I said before, I don't have this need to kill kids in a video game. I tell you what, if you think R* are doing such a bad job, get out and make your own game with all the child killing and rape you want okay.

 

I only think someone wanting to simulate pushing a child off a bridge is abhorrent, the stuff that is already in GTA is fine. It's not the act itself which disgusts me it's that someone actually wants to do it, because apparently it's fun. I know reality is worse, of course it is, but that doesn't mean I'm going to have a breakdown if I saw it in real life, and I can still not wish to play a game with it included. And for your information, I find dead baby jokes as funny as the next person, but I do draw a line at actually carrying out such an act, virtual or not, doesn't matter to me if it is real or not. Call me a girl or whatever all you want, you're just a little man who has some serious messed up issues.

[skillz7855]

GTA is all about choices so it shouldn't matter if animal are in the game if you kill them its your choice no one else's.

[GarrowsKai]

GTA is all about choices so it shouldn't matter if animal are in the game if you kill them its your choice no one else's.

I think animals would be good,but only in a small capacity to keep it in line with modern times. Police Horses in the city, when they are appropriate, police dogs for chases and maybe a few other dog/guard dogs to spice it up a bit. Country side could have a few horses in fields, farms dogs and a few instances of wildlife such as deer and mountain lions to add life to the countryside. Keep it at a relatively low level though especially with wildlife, as we don't see as much in this time as say we did in the time RDR was set.

[Coral_City]

Duke Nukem's your best example. God, help you... RDR's the best example there is.

[FelipeVinhao]

 

Killing humans in a video game right, but killing animals wrong? You guys are funny.

Have you ever notice that the adults that you kill in GTA, you're asked to do so? And most of them want to kill you back?

 

If you go out killing any character that appears in front of you is because you want to act as a mental, not as a criminal.

 

I really doubt Rockstar would put animals and children without some reason - for example, police using dogs, guard dogs on rich mansions...

 

 

GTA is all about choices so it shouldn't matter if animal are in the game if you kill them its your choice no one else's.

This. I can say for myself that I play like this.

 

Although I'm reconsidering if it's a good idea, after seeing so many "good reasons" to add them in game.

 

 

Duke Nukem's your best example. God, help you... RDR's the best example there is.

And again, I'm pretty sure animals in RDR are dangerous in most of cases. They're not poodles wanting to pee on your pants.

[azali10]

 

but there is a limit.

Well that's the difference between you and me, you are limited.

 

It's like I'm dealin' with the Parade of Idiots over here...Let me try to explain this in a way you can grasp son. RDR, I Include it in the "garbage". We've been pretty much playing various incarnations of Grand Theft Auto III for a long time now. So they stole the cover system from Gears of War and stuck it in IV, Bravo! And graphically it wasn't anything special even in its time. I still rather play San Andreas to be honest. I assume most of R* staff sit on their thumbs most of the day, seeing how much harder the guys at Bethesda work. And of course it's for the profit, that's why they waited 'till TBoGT to give us sh*t like Parachutes so they could milk it hard. In the end, they all sell out to profits.

 

As for the "technical limits" of the currect consoles, I'd say that's B.S. 'cause there are some big and beautiful games out there that make IV look like puke in comparison. It's the gameplay itself that keeps GTA ahead of the pack, and I feel that R* is taking huge steps backwards in Sandbox gameplay. I don't want to play out your lame storylines with your stolen characters, I don't want to be told that dogs or children can't exist because some moron without an imagination can't fathom how someone might think it was fun, and increased the interactivity of the game world. What a sad sad day for the advancement of video games

 

As for morality, I'm sure killing someone and having their corpse dismembered and sold to a doctor for money is the height of ethics to you (GTA IV: Have a Heart) Don't try and sell me on the moral superiority of R*, as far as we know the whole team is out molesting filipino school children as we speak . I'm not saying they should really take the time to code in Rape, but children and animals? It'd take no time at all to replace a few ped models and anims. As for pushing them off stuff, you can already do that in GTA. And the fact that you'd think these things are abhorrent means you should go get your ovaries checked and put on your big girl panties. It's a video game, you really gonna be shocked if you saw it happen in GTA? Then you are gonna have a hard time in life with this thing called "reality", 'cause it's much worse than anything you see in a video game. Go cry about the rainforest hippy. I get the feeling you're the kinda goof that would hear a Dead Baby joke and would get offended while everyone else was laughing. It's not real man, it's not connected to reality OR morality in any way and if you think it is than you are insane.

Your'e a sick bastard you know that? Luckily (and unfortunately for you I would imagine), only a small percentage of our population thinks the act of killing a child or rape, simulated or not, could be fun....and two thirds of them are in prison. If you can't understand how gunning down kids in a game, or raping somone, is considered distasteful, then your the one with problems.

[AfroCrew2022]

 

but there is a limit.

Well that's the difference between you and me, you are limited.

 

It's like I'm dealin' with the Parade of Idiots over here...Let me try to explain this in a way you can grasp son. RDR, I Include it in the "garbage". We've been pretty much playing various incarnations of Grand Theft Auto III for a long time now. So they stole the cover system from Gears of War and stuck it in IV, Bravo! And graphically it wasn't anything special even in its time. I still rather play San Andreas to be honest. I assume most of R* staff sit on their thumbs most of the day, seeing how much harder the guys at Bethesda work. And of course it's for the profit, that's why they waited 'till TBoGT to give us sh*t like Parachutes so they could milk it hard. In the end, they all sell out to profits.

 

As for the "technical limits" of the currect consoles, I'd say that's B.S. 'cause there are some big and beautiful games out there that make IV look like puke in comparison. It's the gameplay itself that keeps GTA ahead of the pack, and I feel that R* is taking huge steps backwards in Sandbox gameplay. I don't want to play out your lame storylines with your stolen characters, I don't want to be told that dogs or children can't exist because some moron without an imagination can't fathom how someone might think it was fun, and increased the interactivity of the game world. What a sad sad day for the advancement of video games

 

As for morality, I'm sure killing someone and having their corpse dismembered and sold to a doctor for money is the height of ethics to you (GTA IV: Have a Heart) Don't try and sell me on the moral superiority of R*, as far as we know the whole team is out molesting filipino school children as we speak . I'm not saying they should really take the time to code in Rape, but children and animals? It'd take no time at all to replace a few ped models and anims. As for pushing them off stuff, you can already do that in GTA. And the fact that you'd think these things are abhorrent means you should go get your ovaries checked and put on your big girl panties. It's a video game, you really gonna be shocked if you saw it happen in GTA? Then you are gonna have a hard time in life with this thing called "reality", 'cause it's much worse than anything you see in a video game. Go cry about the rainforest hippy. I get the feeling you're the kinda goof that would hear a Dead Baby joke and would get offended while everyone else was laughing. It's not real man, it's not connected to reality OR morality in any way and if you think it is than you are insane.

Your'e a sick bastard you know that? Luckily (and unfortunately for you I would imagine), only a small percentage of our population thinks the act of killing a child or rape, simulated or not, could be fun....and two thirds of them are in prison. If you can't understand how gunning down kids in a game, or raping somone, is considered distasteful, then your the one with problems.

I mean come on, the truth is we are all a little sick to be enjoying the act of viciously killing someone even though it is a game. Its not so much the fact that killing children and raping in a game is worse then killing adults there is no purpose kids just don't need to be in the game and our character is not a rapist besides in a way rape is already included killing a prostitute after f*cking them and taking there money?

Edited February 14, 2012 by AfroCrew2022

[gtamann123]

In a game where you will be able to kill innocent civilians I think it would be absolutely ridiculous for people to complain about killing animals. Sometimes I swear there are people who care more about animals than other humans. And on another note. Was there any controversy over RDR, Skyrim or hunting games (cabelas dangerous hunts, big game hunter etc.) because you can kill animals in there also.

[Death2Drugs]

TBH I felt a little bad for Manny after the "Have a Heart" mission. He was only trying to help out the community!

[Algonquin Assassin]

The only problem I have with animals is people want them there for the sake of realism, but at the same time they want some counter measure that prevents them from being killed. Sorry, but if it's living, breathing and in the game it should be killed like everything else. It's been that way since 1997.

 

Unless R* have a mission where we burn a heap of dogs or something no one should care if we can kill animals or not. Just like how killing innocent peds has never been forced upon.

 

If someone wants to fire an RPG into a pack of deer they should be able to. Now considering GTA V is going to have countryside on that basis alone there NEEDs to be animals. It would be such a buzzkill seeing such a beautiful and vast countryside with no animals in it.

Edited February 15, 2012 by Miamivicecity

[AfroCrew2022]

The only problem I have with animals is people want them there for the sake of realism, but at the same time they want some counter measure that prevents them from being killed. Sorry, but if it's living, breathing and in the game it should be killed like everything else. It's been that way since 1997.

 

Unless R* have a mission where we burn a heap of dogs or something no one should care if we can kill animals or not. Just like how killing innocent peds has never been forced upon.

 

If someone wants to fire an RPG into a pack of deer they should be able to. Now considering GTA V is going to have countryside on that basis alone there NEEDs to be animals. It would be such a buzzkill seeing such a beautiful and vast countryside with no animals in it.

I agree animals are a must and now there is no excuse technologically why they can't

[RYO_91]

Soo killing humans is better than killing animals? Cmon people its just a game, its not a game for kids so stop complaining, worst things happen in reality, dont be morons...

[AfroCrew2022]

 

Soo killing humans is better than killing animals? Cmon people its just a game, its not a game for kids so stop complaining, worst things happen in reality, dont be morons...

Exactly the fact people dont mind killing people but mind killing animals in a videogame is beyond me it's not like they can't fight back, besides like he said and a lot of others have it's just a motherf*cking game

[ll rdny ll]

And of course it's for the profit, that's why they waited 'till TBoGT to give us sh*t like Parachutes so they could milk it hard. In the end, they all sell out to profits.

Right, that's what happened. They couldn't have possibly been running on a Brand NEW engine, and weren't sure what it could handle when they released IV(vanilla). It was cause they are sell outs and wanted to get a few more duckets from out wallets before they let us have fun.

 

According to that logic. GTA III should have had all the things SA had in it, but Rockstar are just too greedy/lazy to do anything right the first time.

[Big_Mitch_Baker]

@GarrowsKai: So here's a summation of our debate:

 

Someguy: I think Animals should be in the game

Me: Sounds good, why not?

Someother Guy: I think kids should be in the game

Me: Right on, why not?

You: NOOOOOO! I don't agree, and because I'm Jesus H. Christand I can decide for the rest of you wether or not it should be in the game!

Me: Why not?

You: It makes me uncomfortable, I don't want a game where I kill kids

Me: I didn't say GTA should be a child murdering sim you sick f*ck, I just said there's no reason (technically or ethically) why kids couldn't be in the game as well as animals.

You: NOOOOO!!!

 

So I'm done talking to you, you're an unreasonable bag of vaginas. The fact that MOST of the people I know play GTA simply to kill cops and push old ladies into traffic. I don't see how it affects you AT ALL if someone else runs over a kid in a video game in the privacy of their own home (and if you do have a problem with it, go say hello to your boss the Führer for me jerk). I don't want to kick kids in the face in real life any more than I want to gun down people in Time Square moron. This has nothing to do with ethics, you just don't have a sense of humor.

 

@azali10: Have you ever seen the new rambo movie? I suppose it'd make you weep like a little girl then, 'cause kids get brutally murdered in over-the-top gorey fasion. I guess by your standards Stallone is a horrible monster! Oh, and anybody who played the villain in the game Fable must be the devil! STFU you facist prick, go judge on someone else this is about sense of humor not ethics you dipsh*t.

 

@rodneythesavior: GTAIII was their first test run of a 3D environment, they have no excuse now that they're an experienced well-paid team.

 

@Others: For all of you who said "If you don't like it, don't do it!" I say thank you, YOU understand what GTA is about.

Edited February 15, 2012 by Big_Mitch_Baker

[Cole Phelps Gta]

i'd like to see a little girl get rapped. So i should just stay out of this topic

[GarrowsKai]

@GarrowsKai: So here's a summation of our debate:

 

Someguy: I think Animals should be in the game

Me: Sounds good, why not?

Someother Guy: I think kids should be in the game

Me: Right on, why not?

You: NOOOOOO! I don't agree, and because I'm Jesus H. Christand I can decide for the rest of you wether or not it should be in the game!

Me: Why not?

You: It makes me uncomfortable, I don't want a game where I kill kids

Me: I didn't say GTA should be a child murdering sim you sick f*ck, I just said there's no reason (technically or ethically) why kids couldn't be in the game as well as animals.

You: NOOOOO!!!

 

So I'm done talking to you, you're an unreasonable bag of vaginas. The fact that MOST of the people I know play GTA simply to kill cops and push old ladies into traffic. I don't see how it affects you AT ALL if someone else runs over a kid in a video game in the privacy of their own home (and if you do have a problem with it, go say hello to your boss the Führer for me jerk). I don't want to kick kids in the face in real life any more than I want to gun down people in Time Square moron. This has nothing to do with ethics, you just don't have a sense of humor.

 

@azali10: Have you ever seen the new rambo movie? I suppose it'd make you weep like a little girl then, 'cause kids get brutally murdered in over-the-top gorey fasion. I guess by your standards Stallone is a horrible monster! Oh, and anybody who played the villain in the game Fable must be the devil! STFU you facist prick, go judge on someone else this is about sense of humor not ethics you dipsh*t.

 

@rodneythesavior: GTAIII was their first test run of a 3D environment, they have no excuse now that they're an experienced well-paid team.

 

@Others: For all of you who said "If you don't like it, don't do it!" I say thank you, YOU understand what GTA is about.

Yeah you have completely missed the point! And you did say you thought it would be funny to push a pram off a bridge, so it's not just a question of them being able to technically, stop trying to back out now you realise no one things your stupid idea are worth anything because you are a bit sick, as Azali10 said.

 

And concerning the new Rambo film, first off that isn't just random violence, it is obviously central to the plot in some way. What you are proposing would be random violence against kids in GTA. It is about ethics, because if your sense of humour finds child murder and rape, virtual or not, funny then you have a proper twisted mind. And we're not fascist you utter moron.

[Big_Mitch_Baker]

 

Yeah you have completely missed the point!  And you did say you thought it would be funny to push a pram off a bridge, so it's not just a question of them being able to technically, stop trying to back out now you realise no one things your stupid idea are worth anything because you are a bit sick, as Azali10 said.

 

And concerning the new Rambo film, first off that isn't just random violence, it is obviously central to the plot in some way.  What you are proposing would be random violence against kids in GTA.  It is about ethics, because if your sense of humour finds child murder and rape, virtual or not, funny then you have a proper twisted mind.  And we're not fascist you utter moron.

Are you retarded? At what point did I "back out"? Work on your reading comprehention RETARD. I never said it wasn't a good idea, and I STILL contend that I think the idea is hilarious.

 

I imagine the baby flying out of the tram and bouncing off car hoods in comical fashion. It makes me laugh, just like the scene in Naked Gun where the babies are flying down the staircase. Did that offend your delicate feminine sensibility? I guess EVERYONE who laughed at that scene in Naked Gun is "proper twisted" by your bizzare hypocritical standards. Oh, and any time a kid dies in South Park, I guess that makes Trey Parker a psychopath? If you don't agree with my sense of humor, that's okay but it gives you no right to tell me I'm wrong. Then goofball nazis like Azali10 suggest I should be in jail? Because I don't see a problem with kids in GTA? There are real child murders out there, I'm a good guy in RL but I should be in jail for a suggestion?...yeah, that sounds reasonable

 

It is YOU who have repeatedly missed the point. Your idea of "ethics" is meaningless when it comes to virtual worlds. I suggest that if you are personifiying characters in a fictional world and being offended when they die, that you suffer from mental divergence.

 

And yes you are facists (of sorts), because your arguement is "you don't think like me so you're wrong". You think beating old ladies in GTA is Okay but children are off limits, you are argueing symantics here son. They're not real, in order to be unethical you have to do something that causes harm to REAL things, not digital ones dumbass. The fact you can't tell the difference is scary.

 

P.S. I know your type Troll, you just like comin' in here and sh*ttin' on other peoples ideas to make yourself less sad about being a uptight loser. R* is a good company, but they aren't infallible fan-boy.

Edited February 15, 2012 by Big_Mitch_Baker

[GarrowsKai]

Yeah you have completely missed the point!  And you did say you thought it would be funny to push a pram off a bridge, so it's not just a question of them being able to technically, stop trying to back out now you realise no one things your stupid idea are worth anything because you are a bit sick, as Azali10 said.

 

And concerning the new Rambo film, first off that isn't just random violence, it is obviously central to the plot in some way.  What you are proposing would be random violence against kids in GTA.  It is about ethics, because if your sense of humour finds child murder and rape, virtual or not, funny then you have a proper twisted mind.  And we're not fascist you utter moron.

Are you retarded? At what point did I "back out"? Work on your reading comprehention RETARD. I never said it wasn't a good idea, and I STILL contend that I think the idea is hilarious.

 

I imagine the baby flying out of the tram and bouncing off car hoods in comical fashion. It makes me laugh, just like the scene in Naked Gun where the babies are flying down the staircase. Did that offend your delicate feminine sensibility? I guess EVERYONE who laughed at that scene in Naked Gun is "proper twisted" by your bizzare hypocritical standards. Oh, and any time a kid dies in South Park, I guess that makes Trey Parker a psychopath? If you don't agree with my sense of humor, that's okay but it gives you no right to tell me I'm wrong. Then goofball nazis like Azali10 suggest I should be in jail? Because I don't see a problem with kids in GTA? There are real child murders out there, I'm a good guy in RL but I should be in jail for a suggestion?...yeah, that sounds reasonable

 

It is YOU who have repeatedly missed the point. Your idea of "ethics" is meaningless when it comes to virtual worlds. I suggest that if you are personifiying characters in a fictional world and being offended when they die, that you suffer from mental divergence.

 

And yes you are facists (of sorts), because your arguement is "you don't think like me so you're wrong". You think beating old ladies in GTA is Okay but children are off limits, you are argueing symantics here son. They're not real, in order to be unethical you have to do something that causes harm to REAL things, not digital ones dumbass. The fact you can't tell the difference is scary.

 

P.S. I know your type Troll, you just like comin' in here and sh*ttin' on other peoples ideas to make yourself less sad about being a uptight loser. R* is a good company, but they aren't infallible fan-boy.

No that naked gun scene didn't offend because it was obviously a doll! With the graphic nature of GTA, and the setting (i.e it ISN'T a comedy) it is a bit different!

 

Blah blah, I've got to go out so I can't be bothered to read everything but I am not a troll you fool, all I've seen from you is a sick sense of humour, which you are entitled to, but I still think you are a waste of space for it. I see plenty of ideas on here which I don't think would be good, but none of them are totally twisted and offend my so called 'delicate sensibilities'. It isn't the actual inclusion of children that bothers me, it's that freaks like you really do think it would be funny to act out your sick fantasies for cheap laughs.

 

 

Oh, I am the uptight loser am I. I'm not the one who's whole profile on here is based on a fictional biker gang member! You only chose that because you are in fact a wasteman sitting in your room with no real friend, so in an effort to look 'hard', or 'cool' ~(two things you are clearly not) you decide to take the persona of, as I said before, a FICTIONAL biker gang member. We all see who the real loser is here. (To clarify, it's YOU)

[FelipeVinhao]

This topic has such messed up opinions that even people who have the same point of view are arguing with each other...

[LaBrat]

 

Easy - We won't be able to kill Animals in the game

Haha funny.....

 

 

 

 

 

So? Red Dead Redemption had horses because a Western game without horses is absurd. The horses in RDR were killable because a Western game with invincible horses is absurd.

 

A Grand Theft Auto game without horses, not so much. But I do think they're going to have police dogs since we've already seen regular dogs, and if they have police dogs you're probably going to have to fight them at some point so they will be killable.

 

I don't believe all of these rumors about farm animals and such since farm animals really don't have a place in a game about committing crime and stealing cars and no one would miss them if they were gone. Yes, Rockstar said there will be animals, but that really could just mean birds, dogs and sea creatures, and dogs are the only one with a reason to be killable.

Edited February 15, 2012 by LaBrat

[Mats17]

Everytime PETA sees someone killing an animal on GTA 5

 

[Big_Mitch_Baker]

 

No that naked gun scene didn't offend because it was obviously a doll!  With the graphic nature of GTA, and the setting (i.e it ISN'T a comedy) it is a bit different! 

 

Blah blah, I've got to go out so I can't be bothered to read everything but I am not a troll you fool, all I've seen from you is a sick sense of humour, which you are entitled to, but I still think you are a waste of space for it.  I see plenty of ideas on here which I don't think would be good, but none of them are totally twisted and offend my so called 'delicate sensibilities'.  It isn't the actual inclusion of children that bothers me, it's that freaks like you really do think it would be funny to act out your sick fantasies for cheap laughs.

 

 

Oh, I am the uptight loser am I.  I'm not the one who's whole profile on here is based on a fictional biker gang member!  You only chose that because you are in fact a wasteman sitting in your room with no real friend, so in an effort to look 'hard', or 'cool' ~(two things you are clearly not) you decide to take the persona of, as I said before, a FICTIONAL biker gang member.  We all see who the real loser is here.  (To clarify, it's YOU)

Oh, so graphics play a role in morality now? So killing low-res babies is fine by you eh? Your opinion seems very arbitrary. Also there are plenty of comic elements to GTA, there always has been. Think about what your saying before you type it

 

Guess what buddy, things like Rape and Dead Babies can be funny...It's called Dark Humor/Black humor and hundreds of MILLIONS of people agree it's funny. If you've ever seen an episode of Tosh.0 you'll know what I mean (but then again, a little girl like you might get offended). Just because YOU don't think it's funny doesn't mean it's not funny. I mean, I don't think Jeff Foxworthy is funny, does that make me right? f*ck no, it's just an opinion.

 

Also your ignorance astounds me...You don't know me bud, and if you did you'd know I picked Big Mitch Baker because I ride a motorcycle in real life and Big Mitch Baker was the only character in GTA VC I related to. Also it makes sense, seeing as I founded the AoD clan here on GTAF. I mean, it's a GTA website Retard, what avatar should I have chose to please you Mein Fürher? Why did you pick Tenpenny? Are you a wanna be black cop & all around peice of sh*t? Trying to read something into my avatar choice shows how fallacious your logic is (retard).

 

And no friends? lmao, I've got friends and associates from here to Niagara Falls and if you doubt it I'm sure they'd have no problem lining up and punching you in the face until you get the picture. To think I picked him to be "cool" shows how much of a loser you are, that you'd think that any fictional character would make me look "cooler". Big Mitch Baker, if he were real, couldn't hold a candle to me bitch!

 

Now I wouldn't want to interrupt your busy day of putting dicks in your mouth, so by all means take a hike retard. The only reason I'm on here is because I'm at work and it's friggin' boring...so what are YOU doing here? Stab in the dark, but maybe YOUR the loser sitting alone in a basement right now? Don't be transposing your sh*tty life onto me retard.

Edited February 15, 2012 by Big_Mitch_Baker

[LaBrat]

Guess what buddy, things like Rape and Dead Babies can be funny...

Hey guys looks like we're dealing with a master comedian here.

[SteelToe81]

Anyone who's offended by something in a video game is a twat

[pilot1]

If people want to kill animals in a game, let them.. It's a game. After all those years I can't still understand why people make a problem of it. Since I was 6 years old I (brutally)murdered many people in different Gta games. Do I want to murder people in reallife? No..

[SonofToucanSam]

 

Blah blah, I've got to go out so I can't be bothered to read everything

that's what every one says when they lose argumant lol I just joined to add mu 2 cents rape is wrong but if kid dies in game who cares