U. S. A. Embargoed.

[lil weasel]

What with the U. S. of A. attempting to Police the Entire World and sticking its nose into every other governments troubles.

What do you think would happen in the U.S. if the World embargoed it, as the U. S./ U. N. ebargoes the middle east?

[acmilano]

You can't put embargo on Nuclear Superpower,that is why US,UK,France,Russia and China can do whatever they want with out consequences.

[Guns N R0se]

Oh lord, as much as I want to get involved in this thread I won't.

 

[anuj]

This is like asking what would happen if you ate the sun.

[Pico]

Oh lord, as much as I want to get involved in this thread I won't.

Then shut up and don't post. This isn't the Funny Picture thread.

 

As for the topic at hand, as acmilano said, it won't happen. For that reason and more.

The US plays too large a role in the global economy and supplies many things that other places need. Cutting off things into the US would cut off things going out. Corn being a huge thing. Growing up in Illinois I can confirm this, lol.

 

[sivispacem]

This is like asking what would happen if you ate the sun.

This, basically. Absurd "what if" scenarios to hide personal political prejudices and opinions, likely brought on by some isolated event with no relation to GTAF are a bit silly really.

[NaidRaida]

This won´t happen but if, the US economy would collapse... but didn´t that already happen?

[Oddsock]

This question hurts my head in how devoid of logic it is.

 

If the world embargoed the world, we wouldn't be able to do very much. Ta-da. No doubt our economy would go nuts.

 

The only good answers I could come up with would require research into what our primary industries are. We'd run out of oil "shortly" because as far as I know our only real reserves are in Alaska (assuming we're not allowed to invade Canada for oil). We could probably produce enough food for ourselves, but I think a lot of other basic things like clothing, appliances, and so on would drastically drop in supply since those thing are made overseas.

 

That's an interesting thought to me.

[lil weasel]

I own part of a West Virginia Oil Well, and the Government won't let us pump so I earn 30$US a year in royalties for the Natural Gas they do allow us to take. I don't know how many other fields have been shut down to protect Homegrown Oil interests. Burn up theirs before we use our own 'reservers'.

The U.S. produces a lot of hot air, nothing really industrial wise other than war mongering, and money laundering on Internet Banking, Software.

What else do we have to live on?

 

 

[AlfieWilRus]

I think weasel's old age is kicking in.

 

 

[fgcarva1]

This is like asking what would happen if you ate the sun.

This, basically. Absurd "what if" scenarios to hide personal political prejudices and opinions, likely brought on by some isolated event with no relation to GTAF are a bit silly really.

This...

 

but screw it, I'll get involved. The United States imports more than they export really. Nations wouldn't lose the opportunity to sell to the world's biggest superpower. The US also has a decent internal economy, so it wouldn't feel too much, but if they embargoed it, it would most likely be hit with another Oil Crisis.

 

But this is just, as sivis has said, a method to hide political prejudices. The US has the right to embargo a country who threatens the world with suspicions of producing and enriching Uranium for weapon purposes. Either this or invade them... I think economic sanctions are the better options at this time.

[guib]

I don't care, I don't live there...

[*MURDOC*]

I think weasel's old age is kicking in.

This topic is so much worse than the golden eggs you tend to produce, huh?

 

 

 

 

I don't care, I don't live there...

 

You don't have to live there for it to affect you homeslice.

[Dingdongs]

This is like asking what would happen if you ate the sun.

This, basically. Absurd "what if" scenarios to hide personal political prejudices and opinions, likely brought on by some isolated event with no relation to GTAF are a bit silly really.

This...

 

but screw it, I'll get involved. The United States imports more than they export really. Nations wouldn't lose the opportunity to sell to the world's biggest superpower. The US also has a decent internal economy, so it wouldn't feel too much, but if they embargoed it, it would most likely be hit with another Oil Crisis.

 

But this is just, as sivis has said, a method to hide political prejudices. The US has the right to embargo a country who threatens the world with suspicions of producing and enriching Uranium for weapon purposes. Either this or invade them... I think economic sanctions are the better options at this time.

Yeah... embargoing the most powerful country in the world sounds pretty retarded to me. If such a thing did occur, the US wouldn't take it lying down. You don't embargo a nuclear superpower.

[trip]

An embargo might actually work to be a positive thing. The US has plenty of natural resources to self sustain. It would isolate the US and force it into being self reliant in a way. If the US didn't have to be involved in the politics, and finances of world trade, it might even make it a stronger entity.

 

IMO - it's not the people that make the US the power that it is, but more so the resource rich land it occupies.

[NaidRaida]

 

An embargo might actually work to be a positive thing.  The US has plenty of natural resources to self sustain.  It would isolate the US and force it into being self reliant in a way.  If the US didn't have to be involved in the politics, and finances of world trade, it might even make it a stronger entity.

Sounds like you´re not the greatest friend of globalisation but what you said is most likely I think. It´s always better to mind his own business instead of ramming it into other heads or cultures without even asking.

[Creed Bratton]

Well if something like that were to happen it would mean that USA isn't as strong and powerful force in the world anymore.

[ryuclan]

Well if something like that were to happen it would mean that USA isn't as strong and powerful force in the world anymore.

I don't get your logic.

[Iminicus]

An embargo might actually work to be a positive thing. The US has plenty of natural resources to self sustain. It would isolate the US and force it into being self reliant in a way. If the US didn't have to be involved in the politics, and finances of world trade, it might even make it a stronger entity.

 

IMO - it's not the people that make the US the power that it is, but more so the resource rich land it occupies.

The US should self impose and embargo and forgo trading internationally. Of course, this would collapse the European Markets, Chinese Markets, Japanese Markets, English Markets and even the NZ/Aus Markets.

 

People here seem to forget that the world needs America more than America needs the world. As trip said, the US has enough natural resources to become self sustainable. It would take a couple years but there is more than enough stockpiled to hold over until everything came online.

[Dingdongs]

 

An embargo might actually work to be a positive thing.  The US has plenty of natural resources to self sustain.  It would isolate the US and force it into being self reliant in a way.  If the US didn't have to be involved in the politics, and finances of world trade, it might even make it a stronger entity.  

 

IMO - it's not the people that make the US the power that it is, but more so the resource rich land it occupies.

The US should self impose and embargo and forgo trading internationally. Of course, this would collapse the European Markets, Chinese Markets, Japanese Markets, English Markets and even the NZ/Aus Markets.

 

People here seem to forget that the world needs America more than America needs the world. As trip said, the US has enough natural resources to become self sustainable. It would take a couple years but there is more than enough stockpiled to hold over until everything came online.

Yeah, Japan especially... they have almost nothing in terms of natural resources.

[Iminicus]

An embargo might actually work to be a positive thing.  The US has plenty of natural resources to self sustain.  It would isolate the US and force it into being self reliant in a way.  If the US didn't have to be involved in the politics, and finances of world trade, it might even make it a stronger entity.  

 

IMO - it's not the people that make the US the power that it is, but more so the resource rich land it occupies.

The US should self impose and embargo and forgo trading internationally. Of course, this would collapse the European Markets, Chinese Markets, Japanese Markets, English Markets and even the NZ/Aus Markets.

 

People here seem to forget that the world needs America more than America needs the world. As trip said, the US has enough natural resources to become self sustainable. It would take a couple years but there is more than enough stockpiled to hold over until everything came online.

Yeah, Japan especially... they have almost nothing in terms of natural resources.

Japan would probably be crippled overnight. Especially, as the US removes Forces from Foreign lands. So, I say let the UN impose an embargo against the US, I just hope they don't think they will be allowed to remain on US Soil during the embargo.

 

See, that is something. The UN is situated in New York City. Therefore, imposing an embargo on the country that houses the UN would be f*cking stupid. Not that I would put it past the UN, since they are becoming irrelevant as the years pass.

 

Since, the UN is so Anti-American, why don't they leave and set up shop in say France or Germany? Or Iraq or Russia? Why do they continually bash America yet refuse to leave?

[Shyabang Shyabang]

I agree that no one would embargo a country as powerful as the US. And a lot of countries would be in trouble if the US market was cut off from them.

 

Even if it did happen, the US has enough farms and natural resources to support the Americans. Although oil prices would skyrocket, the US can drill a lot of oil in states like Texas so the military could use it and the wealthy people would be able to afford it. The majority would just walk most of the time. This is why the US fared better than countries like Germany during the Great Depression. Germany alone wasn't a self sufficient country in food and oil, which Germany had to import a lot. And Germany wasn't exporting as much as Germany does today so the situation was much worse back then.

 

There are many wealthy countries today that depend on imported food and oil. A lot of these countries became wealthy through exporting, which is how they can afford their imports. They'd be in big trouble if their imports were cut off. I live in a country that would starve almost like North Korea if imports were gone. The farms in my country can't compete against the cheaper food imports from large plantation and large livestock farm countries. So a lot of the farmers in my country sold their land. Huge urbanization developed in those lands because my small country lacks other land for urbanization. We have trees thanks to the green belts on the numerous mountains that we have. My country would be easy to embargo by sea because the sea surrounds three sides of my country and there's a hostile neighbor to the north.

Edited February 12, 2012 by Shyabang Shyabang

[Jay]

What's the money on lil weasel not voting for Reagan for President?

[Iminicus]

What's the money on lil weasel not voting for Reagan for President?

Pretty good, since he seems like a staunch Carter supporter.

[lil weasel]

James Earl Carter (Peanut Farmer):

• He was the U. S. Navy officer in charge of the U.S. team assisting in the shutdown of the Chalk River Nuclear Reactor

• Lieutenant Carter resigned his commission, and he was discharged from the Navy on October 9, 1953.

• He served two terms in the Georgia Senate

And he was elected Governor

As President:

• He created two new cabinet-level departments

Department of Energy and the Department of Education.

• Established a national energy policy:

• The Three Mile Island nuclear accident

• Pursued the Camp David Accords, and

• the Panama Canal Treaties

• Returned the Panama Canal Zone to Panama.

• Iran hostage crisis,

• the 1979 energy crisis,

• the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan,

• 1980 Summer Olympics boycott by the United States of the Moscow Olympics

• It was his decision not to pursue completion of the neutron bomb

• He was opposed to busing.

• He was in favor of private schools.

• He was "personally opposed" to abortion

• He did not support increased federal funding for abortion services

• In his Nobel Prize lecture, he urged prohibition of the death penalty

• Carter instituted "American Fighting Man's Day" and • He asked Georgians to drive for a week with their lights on in support of convicted war criminal Lt. Calley.

• Signed the1979 bailing out Chrysler Corporation

• Canceled military pay raises during a time of high inflation and government deficits.

• Installed solar panels on the White House

• Deregulated the American beer industry

• The Airline Deregulation Act

 

Carter's presidency was viewed by many as a failure

 

 

Ronald Reagan (Entertainer):

• He was commissioned a Second Lieutenant in the Officers Reserve Corps of the Cavalry, subsequently to the Army Air Force’s First Motion Picture Unit

• Began his political career as a liberal Democrat

• He shifted to the right because of his Girl friend

• When hired by General Electric Theater he began to embrace the conservative views of the sponsoring company's officials

• His many GE speeches were non-partisan yet carried a conservative, pro-business message

• A tough stance against unions

• free markets,

• anticommunism,

• lower taxes,

• limited government.

• Eventually Reagan formally switched to the Republican Party,

• Reagan opposed civil rights legislation

• Reagan warned that Medicare would mean the end of freedom in America; “we will awake to find that we have socialism.”

• He joined the National Rifle Association

• He is quoted, “The Founding Fathers knew a government can't control the economy without controlling people.”

• Running for Governor he emphasized two main themes: "to send the welfare bums back to work," and, in reference to burgeoning anti-war and anti-establishment student protests "to clean up the mess at Berkeley." Reagan sent the California Highway Patrol and other officers to quell the protests, resulting in the death of student James Rector and the blinding of carpenter Alan Blanchard. Reagan then called out 2,200 state National Guard troops to occupy the city of Berkeley for two weeks in order to crack down on the protesters

• When the Symbionese Liberation Army kidnapped Patty Hearst in Berkeley and demanded the distribution of food to the poor, Reagan stated, "It's just too bad we can't have an epidemic of botulism."

•He signed the California "Therapeutic Abortion Act"

• Later he proclaimed to be Pro-Life.

• Reagan's greatest frustrations in office concerned capital punishment, which he strongly supported

• His Presidential campaign stressed lower taxes to stimulate the economy, less government interference in people's lives, state’s rights, a strong national defense, and restoring the U.S. Dollar to a gold standard.

• The firing of PATCO employees demonstrated a clear message to the private sector that unions no longer needed to be feared

• He advocated a liberal and laissez-faire philosophy

• He reduced taxes while with a slight of hand raised other for a net gain in taxes of 18.2% of GDP as compared to 18.1% of previous years.

• Reagan signed into law tax increases of some nature every year. (2.5% attributed to higher Social Security receipts)

• Slashed federal assistance to local governments by 60%,

• cut the budget for public housing and Section 8 rent subsidies by 50%,

• Eliminated the antipoverty Community Development Block Grant program.

• Reagan set tax rates on capital gains, which benefit the wealthy to the same levels as the rates on ordinary income of salaries/wages, maxed at 28%

• His administration tried to drop people with disabilities from the Social Security disability rolls

• Ordered the Marines to withdraw from Lebanon

• Ordered U.S. forces to invade Grenada

• Announced that the Global Positioning System would be made available for civilian use, free of charge,

• His administration provided covert aid to anti-communist resistance movements

• also agreed with the communist China to reduce the sale of arms to Taiwan

• Reagan declared militant policies in the War on Drugs

•The Iran-Contra affair became the largest political scandal

• Murdered countless numbers of AIDS victims by withholding research funds as punishment for their sins.

• Reported many friends or colleagues as communists during the Red Scare.

 

So How Do These Guys Compare to What We Are Offered Now?

Edited February 20, 2012 by lil weasel

[trip]

James Earl Carter (Peanut Farmer):

 

Ronald Reagan (Entertainer):

How about when Reagan stopped all the mental hospital funding and just gave the patients bus fair - That was fun. I can totally go off on why I hate Reagan. How about when they[ron and nancy] employed a psychic. Yup...we had the influence of a psychic when it came to national and world affairs. Oh oh oh oh...and how about Nancy not keeping up on a bunch of 'Say No To Drugs' obligations after Ron was out of office. Like I said, I could totally go off on why I hate Reagan and his reign of terror.

 

I always felt Carter got a bum rap.

 

 

As far as all the current politics/election bullsh*t. Well...The US always thought strength equaled power. All those years of focusing on strength instead of focusing on intelligence is paying off. Just like the cliche jock verses nerd in high school bit - the nerd always wins in the end and the jock is left to be the laughing stock.

 

The reason we don't see elections and candidates like we used to is because the general population doesn't have the aptitude to comprehend. Everything now has to be dumbed down into simple words with cute characters like Geico and Progressive insurance commercials.

[Oakshaft]

The reason we don't see elections and candidates like we used to is because the general population doesn't have the aptitude to comprehend. Everything now has to be dumbed down into simple words with cute characters like Geico and Progressive insurance commercials.

/Win

 

We are done here. Nothing left to see.

[Tyler]

I don't think the public needs to be dumbed down at all, trip. They're simply made to be dumbed down from birth by all factors. It's easier when kids aren't asking questions, it's easier when a worker doesn't question his boss, it's easier when people don't question their government. But it works both ways. It's not like humans are defined as sheepish consumers from their genetic code.

[trip]

I don't think the public needs to be dumbed down at all, trip. They're simply made to be dumbed down from birth by all factors. It's easier when kids aren't asking questions, it's easier when a worker doesn't question his boss, it's easier when people don't question their government. But it works both ways. It's not like humans are defined as sheepish consumers from their genetic code.

That is pretty much my point. We stopped breading and encouraging intellectualism here a bunch of years ago. Now people just believe whatever the shiny new, fancy object is telling them. The 'neater' the object, the more they trust it. And 'neat' is usually defined by how it is accepted by the masses - the more people like something = the 'neater' it is.

 

And I ramble.

[El Dildo]

This is like asking what would happen if you ate the sun.

exactly.

 

there's point in trying to discuss this scenario.

because it's not happening.