ryuclan Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 My dad when he was around used to beat me when I stepped out of line. I once had this toy axe and started hitting his friends with it, it was a laugh but he didn't find it funny and he took me out that room and he gave me a few beatings himself. Was this kind of tough love right? who knows, I am who I am today, I am not spolied, I loved him understand why he did it...meh. Yeah I he'd to get my ass kicked as well. I'm not consing the use of violence at all but if I said the things that girl said at her age id probably still be sore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of Monra Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 fathers? what is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trip Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 My dad when he was around used to beat me when I stepped out of line. I once had this toy axe and started hitting his friends with it, it was a laugh but he didn't find it funny and he took me out that room and he gave me a few beatings himself. Was this kind of tough love right? who knows, I am who I am today, I am not spolied, I loved him understand why he did it...meh. Yeah I he'd to get my ass kicked as well. I'm not consing the use of violence at all but if I said the things that girl said at her age id probably still be sore. Yup. Bring back the time when parents beat their kids. It made for more respectable kids if you ask me. It's best when kids fear their parents.  Like most, I got my fair share of beatings, and I like to think I turned out fine. My crappy games at MyCrappyGames.com Free copy of Save The Puppies and Kittens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmC12 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) It's best when kids fear their parents? Are you joking? What about the people who have no parents because they feared them so much. That kind of discipline may have worked in the long term as part of society, but it should never be brought back. There's so many parents who don't even deserve kids, that kind of acceptable form of beating would create more problems rather than prevent them. Using violence to show authority should never be acceptable unless it is required, i.e. the law. Why don't we just bring back the belt in schools too. Â Anyway. I think that guy had a point but he went about it in a stupid manner. Spending hundreds of his own money on a laptop and taking time out of his life to repair it, and then just destroying it out of anger? Why not just take the laptop away and give it to someone who will use it properly. Complaining about your parents is something everyone has done at some point in their life. Or complaining about anyone who tries to order you around. It's natural to feel the need to fight back. And she probably only wrote it cause she was pissed off, again I'm sure everyone can relate to a time where they've done something in the heat of the moment and thought about the consequences after. What he should have done was actually talk to her about it, not pull out a gun and show it to the whole world. What kind of example is that? Clearly if his parenting was so great she wouldn't have felt the need to say that sh*t in the first place. Edited February 14, 2012 by SmC12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanjeem Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 To be honest, I think there is no right answer or simple solution as every child, parent is different. For me, my old man didn't beat me that much compared to some of my Nigerian friends (Damn there mothers destroyed them, not to mention fathers) and my half brother. But yeah, I think that impact made me fear him first. But after a while I started not to fear him, therefore he didn't threaten me any more because I did not care. However he didn't need to then because I pretty much, almost around the clock respected him. Â I think this also brought me up to be very conscious of the world. I think it might have made me a little more violent however in comparison to kids who didn't get beat at my old school when I was younger. Â Now parents can't do jack all, and that's coming from a 16 year old. I hate my mum now telling me what to do, I'm still respectful though to the people I like and for the right reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA_stu Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 You shouldn't need to hit your kids or threaten them with violence in order for them to obey you. OK sometimes a smack is required but really I think it should be something that is avoided. I can definitely say that I'm respectful to my parents and I always have been, and they never used to hit me on a routine basis. Ground them or take away a toy, but really hitting should be reserved for exceptional cases imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trip Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 It's best when kids fear their parents? Are you joking? No. I am totally serious. I could have been a bit better in what I was trying to relay. I'm not suggesting that kids should fear a physical beating from their folks(maybe in the back of their mind they should). I'm also not suggesting a tyrant like fear that would drive away a child. And the fear a kid should have of their parents should just be an early on thing to help in the child's development - not a permanent thing.  When doing something I knew was wrong the first thing I weighed was 'what will happen if my folks find out?'.  Parents these days got soft if you ask me. If I had children I'm sure I would be just as guilty of being soft too. I can't even kill an insect, so I'm sure it would be tough for me to spank my child...I might do it once (for something serious) just so they had it in the back of their mind as a possible punishment.   My crappy games at MyCrappyGames.com Free copy of Save The Puppies and Kittens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthYENIK Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 That's not so bad. I knew a girl who had a party at her house when her parents were out of town, and got caught. Her punishment was her dad giving her a buzz cut. That is just sick. Although I knew this one girl who was super hot with short hair like that, the girl I'm talking about was not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ha! ha! ha! Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 I've heard that in US people can carry their own guns, but still, to me that's little bit weird. in my country, it's not ligal to have a gun nomal citizen. even cops, they are supposed not to carry real bullut, but fake one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Alan Willmer Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012  MSN Article   Personally I like and dislike this. First of all his parenting is nowhere near strict or offers ANY excessive work for the troubled teen to do. Honestly all she does is simple chores. She actually does some of the same chores as I do. I'm forced to make my bed, clean dishes, vacuum the house, which only takes about 10 minutes of my life almost everyday. It's not a big deal, I don't see whats the deal with this girl. I think the mind she's holding is mainly influenced by her peers. Kids these days are just f*cking spoiled and bratty and it's honestly why I hate my generation. The dad was just basically just frustrated by what her daughter did by expressing her hate for doing all the stuff she has to do, which is nothing compared to what some OTHER people do. The daughter simply just made a huge fuss about it since she isn't deserving all the kind of stuff other people have. At this point, it's hard to tell where she's gonna go in life, considering the fact that she's clearly troubled. The point is her parents were just trying to pamper her the right way teaching her discipline and respect so that she can succeed in life. Not become a spoiled little bitch carrying top of the line phones and computers and not giving a sh*t about her future, which is what most kids today are doing. Trust me, I see it everyday.  The reason why I dislike this, is well, he shot up her laptop. He could have sold it, given it to charity, or locked it up somewhere. The shooting was really excessive IMO, but it proved the fathers tough love towards his daughter.  So what's your view on this? Right or wrong? Im sorry but this guy is either incredibly dumb or just did not think before he posted that video online. That video is now enough to ruin his daughters own life. Her employers could see it and her friends and that would be enough to prevent his daughter from being ever hired by any company. He has practicly highly risked ruininng and affecting his daughters life by doing that.  Also he states it took him 6 hours to upgrade a laptop and install software lmfao and he says hes in I.T I could of done that with 2 - 3 hours tops.  Also i think this guy has little understanding of the current US economy since he just found a random job that he did not know for a fact his daughter would enjoy or be even capable of doing.  Yes the daughter went to far but what the father just did is a lot worse. No excuse for that end of the day a very childish and immature thing to do for a grown adult. There are better ways to punish your kid for doing something wrong. Putting a video of yourself revealing private family matters seen by anyone just isnt one of them.  And theres then the fact of the possible psycological damage that could of been done to this kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnson. Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 And theres then the fact of the possible psycological damage that could of been done to this kid. I'd really like to see you try and get through to the youth of today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zackryderwoo Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 LOL he has a gun. I bet his daughter is one of those "hip" "cool" "popular" kids, whatever they call them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJizzums Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) My girlfriend has seen a 13 year old punch and kick her Mum who had a weak heart to the ground until she stopped moving, just because her Mum came out to stick up for her against some bullies. (Who stood there, watched then took the girls side who they just bullied). Â It makes me think on what really goes on behind closed doors in some homes, maybe the parents are too easy on the kid and lose control, maybe it could of been television or their peers, end of the day. I feel giving a kid the occasional clip round side of the ear does no kid no harm. Â I'm against beatings, punching and real bad harm. But a little slap round the ear kept me in check. Soon as I felt side of the head sting a little, I knew to pipe down and show some respect. And that would be a last resort if telling off didn't work and raising their voice didn't work, so I would doubt they made double digits combined on how often they needed to clip me one. Â It's all about respect in my eyes, kids have to respect their parents and what they teach. And parents need to respect that kids will follow, but once they reach 16 they are somewhat on their own. They will make their own choices and mistakes, of course you are always there for guidance and may step in if they make bad mistakes, but it's all about balance and it's always different depending on where you live, what you live around and the situations you get put in. (But if you are raised with respect, then common sense usually dictates when it's time to take action). Â But to get to the point, somewhere with this Father and Daughter, one mis-communcated mistake has lead to another, leading in a lack of respect and understanding. They are both wrong and should both grow a spine. Edited February 15, 2012 by SirJizzums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 When doing something I knew was wrong the first thing I weighed was 'what will happen if my folks find out?'. That isn't fear, that's respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tejasm Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 I completely sympathize with this poor girl. I know how bad she must feel,this on YouTube and all. My own dad broke my iPod in rage and I will never,ever forget that brutal act of violence and even though he bought me a smartphone I will never be able to forgive him for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Democrab Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 The girl is 15, her parents more than likely provide everything for her while asking very little. Complaining about them publicly on Facebook is a huge sign of disrespect which no parent should tolerate. Did the guy have to use a gun? No, but he wanted to make a Youtube video so he could get his message out (or become an internet celebrity), and everyone knows that as soon as you shoot things angrily on Youtube your video becomes a hit. If what I've read about Child Services interviewing the daughter is true, that's just silly, neither party indicated any form of abuse.   make her cut the grass with scizzors, hunt for her meals in the wild with only a spork  This quote is awesome. I don't think he wanted to make a hit video, I think he just wanted to really drive the point home.  Considering he paid for the laptop, I think it's fair. She misused it and suffers the consequences, after they've all cooled down (Especially with this video exploding as it has) she'll probably work to buy her own. However, if she'd actually worked for the laptop herself and bought it herself, then I'd have just hidden it or forcefully lowered the amount of time she can spend on the internet for a few months. (Eg. Turning off WiFi automatically between certain times)   yes, that's usually the situation with 15 y/o kids, yet they are in puberty, experiencing emotional issues from time to time, if chores etc get added at said moment those chores will be demonized, along with the person who gives them (the parents, in this case) geez, none of you guys ever been raging over stupid things when they were young?...this is just an example of one of such things and an even better example of overreaction  Yep, everyone has. Except I didn't go and post a massive rant about my Mother on Facebook for all of my friends to see, I figured I'll get the job done as fast as I can and then relax for the rest of the day. I think he did go a bit far, but at the same time he needed to drive the point in...If he's tried other (Less extreme) stuff before from similar situations then fair enough if they don't work (We don't know if they have or not) then it's definitely fair enough, however if this is the first time she's majorly mucked up then it'd be too far.   After being forced into arranging a Social Services interview for his daughter due to this incident They had to involve social services? Are you f*ckin' kidding me? What has the world come to... That's sad....he didn't even lay. hand on her. Destroyed a laptop that I'm sure he bought, and just wanted her to do her chores and be respectful...I don't get it.  It's just sad.   Also he states it took him 6 hours to upgrade a laptop and install software lmfao and he says hes in I.T I could of done that with 2 - 3 hours tops.  Also i think this guy has little understanding of the current US economy since he just found a random job that he did not know for a fact his daughter would enjoy or be even capable of doing. I'm in IT too, and how do you know what software, etc he was installing? It may take longer than 2-3 hours. If he was installing Windows 7, Office, WLM, Firefox/Chrome, etc it could easily take well over 5 hours on a slow laptop HDD. Especially if he's backing up her files to a USB drive, and then copying them back onto her computer.  You know very little about this man, yet you're judging him as though you've seen every second of his life. I watched the entire video, what was that job? He knows his daughter better than you do (I certainly hope so, anyway) so I'd assume he'd know at least roughly what she can and can't do and what she enjoys doing. She's too lazy to apply for a part-time job as many kids are these days.  As for psychological damage...Please, if that punishment gave her psychological damage (Apart from the blowing up of the video) then she already had something clearly wrong with her and it just was the straw that broke the camels back.   I completely sympathize with this poor girl. I know how bad she must feel,this on YouTube and all. My own dad broke my iPod in rage and I will never,ever forget that brutal act of violence and even though he bought me a smartphone I will never be able to forgive him for it.  I really hope this is sarcasm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOTMILFDAD Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Im sorry but this guy is either incredibly dumb or just did not think before he posted that video online. That video is now enough to ruin his daughters own life. Her employers could see it and her friends and that would be enough to prevent his daughter from being ever hired by any company. He has practicly highly risked ruininng and affecting his daughters life by doing that. er, how? Â His daughter wasn't in the video, nor did we ever hear a name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tejasm Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 The girl is 15, her parents more than likely provide everything for her while asking very little. Complaining about them publicly on Facebook is a huge sign of disrespect which no parent should tolerate. Did the guy have to use a gun? No, but he wanted to make a Youtube video so he could get his message out (or become an internet celebrity), and everyone knows that as soon as you shoot things angrily on Youtube your video becomes a hit. If what I've read about Child Services interviewing the daughter is true, that's just silly, neither party indicated any form of abuse.   make her cut the grass with scizzors, hunt for her meals in the wild with only a spork  This quote is awesome. I don't think he wanted to make a hit video, I think he just wanted to really drive the point home.  Considering he paid for the laptop, I think it's fair. She misused it and suffers the consequences, after they've all cooled down (Especially with this video exploding as it has) she'll probably work to buy her own. However, if she'd actually worked for the laptop herself and bought it herself, then I'd have just hidden it or forcefully lowered the amount of time she can spend on the internet for a few months. (Eg. Turning off WiFi automatically between certain times)   yes, that's usually the situation with 15 y/o kids, yet they are in puberty, experiencing emotional issues from time to time, if chores etc get added at said moment those chores will be demonized, along with the person who gives them (the parents, in this case) geez, none of you guys ever been raging over stupid things when they were young?...this is just an example of one of such things and an even better example of overreaction  Yep, everyone has. Except I didn't go and post a massive rant about my Mother on Facebook for all of my friends to see, I figured I'll get the job done as fast as I can and then relax for the rest of the day. I think he did go a bit far, but at the same time he needed to drive the point in...If he's tried other (Less extreme) stuff before from similar situations then fair enough if they don't work (We don't know if they have or not) then it's definitely fair enough, however if this is the first time she's majorly mucked up then it'd be too far.   After being forced into arranging a Social Services interview for his daughter due to this incident They had to involve social services? Are you f*ckin' kidding me? What has the world come to... That's sad....he didn't even lay. hand on her. Destroyed a laptop that I'm sure he bought, and just wanted her to do her chores and be respectful...I don't get it.  It's just sad.   Also he states it took him 6 hours to upgrade a laptop and install software lmfao and he says hes in I.T I could of done that with 2 - 3 hours tops.  Also i think this guy has little understanding of the current US economy since he just found a random job that he did not know for a fact his daughter would enjoy or be even capable of doing. I'm in IT too, and how do you know what software, etc he was installing? It may take longer than 2-3 hours. If he was installing Windows 7, Office, WLM, Firefox/Chrome, etc it could easily take well over 5 hours on a slow laptop HDD. Especially if he's backing up her files to a USB drive, and then copying them back onto her computer.  You know very little about this man, yet you're judging him as though you've seen every second of his life. I watched the entire video, what was that job? He knows his daughter better than you do (I certainly hope so, anyway) so I'd assume he'd know at least roughly what she can and can't do and what she enjoys doing. She's too lazy to apply for a part-time job as many kids are these days.  As for psychological damage...Please, if that punishment gave her psychological damage (Apart from the blowing up of the video) then she already had something clearly wrong with her and it just was the straw that broke the camels back.   I completely sympathize with this poor girl. I know how bad she must feel,this on YouTube and all. My own dad broke my iPod in rage and I will never,ever forget that brutal act of violence and even though he bought me a smartphone I will never be able to forgive him for it.  I really hope this is sarcasm... No its not. I speak the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K^2 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 What a drama queen. That aside, fairly good way to deal with situation. Not knowing any of the details it's hard to say if there actually was the situation, but the fact that the guy took measures that took at least some degree of thought and preparation suggest that it wasn't just a momentary rage over some insignificant thing. So the response may not have been entirely proportional, but sometimes, that's what it takes. And actually doing something about it rather than just raging over it deserves a kudos. It should be the norm of parenting and require no mention, but unfortunately it isn't and it does. So here we are. Prior to filing a bug against any of my code, please consider this response to common concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn 7 five 11 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) I was wondering...it's a little bit of an ask...but at the the moment the internet i am using has been slowed to 64kbps, so i cannot load the video at all, if someone could tell me roughly what happened i would be grateful. From what i gathered the kid had to do chores, complained on facebook, the dad saw it and shot up her laptop? Edited February 16, 2012 by finn4life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of Monra Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z9LEen8KcI Â fake or real? Â I think both videos are fake though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzbegone Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z9LEen8KcIÂ fake or real? Â I think both videos are fake though. I'd say fake. Â A dad that big of a hardass wouldn't let his daughter to grow up looking like a ho bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Democrab Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 No its not. I speak the truth. If you've done something to annoy your dad and he broke your iPod, fair enough to be angry. If he bought you a smartphone in return, then it's a bit douchey to be angry still...However, never forgiving someone who is flesh and blood and never replaceable to you over a piece of silicon manufactured for someone earning $1 an hour in China? Really? You must be 13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Alan Willmer Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Greg Solomons Interesting Responce   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trip Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 The other day I saw a headline on Yahoo with a video - apparently the dad and daughter ended up on some news show and the dad somehow made up for shooting the laptop. I was at work so I didn't watch the video.  Sure I could just search the internet and see what happened, but I'm lazy and would like someone here to tell me how things wrapped up if they saw the continuing story. My crappy games at MyCrappyGames.com Free copy of Save The Puppies and Kittens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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