ToniForelli 16 Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 What have you killed. To me Derrick. Francis said that he is a liar and a drug addict when i like cool type drug addicts. Well feel free to post and vote.. Copcaller and NewGuybj 2 Link to post Share on other sites
jlamay 14 Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Francis. It seemed to me the story lead up to it. Just things Francis would say to Niko made it sound like Niko was suppost to go after Francis. Copcaller 1 Link to post Share on other sites
AceRay 64 Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 This thread title has got massive spoilers. Anyway, I went with Derrick. It just felt right. Link to post Share on other sites
Korpi 1,143 Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Francis. Easy choice. I never liked him. He pretty much reminds of Tenpenny, like the fact that he was a corrupt cop and ordered to kill hes own brother. Copcaller 1 Link to post Share on other sites
AlexGTAGamer 58 Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I chose Francis. He's nothing but a dirty cop who had Niko under his thumb from day 1. And as soon as he ordered Niko to kill his own brother that was the final straw. His own brothers don't like him, everyone who Francis orders you to destroy say that he's a dirty cop (from Goldberg all the way to Clarence), even some of the in-game media say the same thing too. So who would be better to kill? A drug addict who is heavily grieving over his past and is trying to slowly kill himslef, or a rat cop with a big ego problem. Copcaller 1 Link to post Share on other sites
CrowBarZ 3 Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Last time around it was a hard choice, I had to reload my game at least seven times because I felt guily, but in the end I chose Francis. Spoilers of massive proportion immenent. Derrick, even though he was a criminal, I thought he had a good heart and could probably do something about his addiction. Francis was a man who had a lot of dirt on niko, but had a lot going for him. I also felt sorry for him because of what kate said after he dies. "He was too much of a cop for his brother and too much of a criminal for the police", but you gotta do what you gotta do. spoilers to make sure I am completely covered. Link to post Share on other sites
WhitValid 11 Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 It just depends on whether or not I was personally suicidal when I played. If I was mega depressed I did Derrick the favor I wished someone would o for me. THANKS! Leftist_slayer 1 Link to post Share on other sites
acmilano 347 Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Francis always.He orders Niko to kill every witness of his crimes,lawyear who got evidence against him and finally his own brother.Only surviving witness of Francis crimes is Niko,so i wouldn't be suprised if Francis was planning to kill Niko next.Also Derrick was fighting alongside Niko in Bank job,and Niko have to hang out with Packie and Kate after that,so it was an easy decision.BTW,that DeNiro-looking lawyear,was he a pedophile,it writes something to insinuate that on GTAIV internet so is that confirmed? Copcaller 1 Link to post Share on other sites
junkpile 294 Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Francis always.He orders Niko to kill every witness of his crimes,lawyear who got evidence against him and finally his own brother.Only surviving witness of Francis crimes is Niko,so i wouldn't be suprised if Francis was planning to kill Niko next.Also Derrick was fighting alongside Niko in Bank job,and Niko have to hang out with Packie and Kate after that,so it was an easy decision.BTW,that DeNiro-looking lawyear,was he a pedophile,it writes something to insinuate that on GTAIV internet so is that confirmed? oh yeah? Even though I kill Francis mostly, Derrick isn't any better. He ratted out his friends and orders Niko to kill them. Copcaller 1 Link to post Share on other sites
dansgas1000 6 Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I can't remember who i killed, it was a while back Pancakes. And that is all of whats in this spoiler Copcaller and Lance Mayhem 2 Link to post Share on other sites
CheesyJ 0 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I decided to go for Francis. Part of me liked him and saw where he was coming from, but the other side of him made me realise that he was just a corrupt cop. The fact that he was actually willing to get rid of his own brother made it an easy choice for me to make in the end. Link to post Share on other sites
senor_huevos_benedicto 1 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I was unsure who to kill... But then when they meet by the bench and Francis started condescending Derrick, I had no other choice but to shoot him. Copcaller 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ToniForelli 16 Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 Look at Derrick he looks like a piece of sh*t. He deserved to die i'm suprised most people shot Francis. Leftist_slayer 1 Link to post Share on other sites
na89340qv0n34b09q340 513 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 I killed Francis. I was going to kill Derrick, but while shooting I thought about Francis, and realized he's an a*shat who uses his status to bully his less fortunate siblings. Plus I really don't like cops, especially power-abusing ones. Copcaller 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Ammonite 0 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Went for Francis. As already mentioned, the game was dropping hints that it should be him to get the bullet (such as when Niko says "I'll be sure to hit the person I'm aiming at" after Francis says "be sure not to hit me"). I also felt that he was more deserving to get the bullet. I didn't enjoy that area of the game though. I liked Francis more than Derrick (Derrick is a friggin' wasted bum). Link to post Share on other sites
lol232 3,307 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) Use this Topic instead, OT: Derrick, 20k + Clear Wanted Level and a long trip to the Graveyard is the way it goes. Hate both, buth Francis has moustasche and always smiles, made something in life, Gerrald like him at least, his mother liked him (obviuosly), Derrick was a drug addict who keeps running away from family, And yeah, people say : Francis is a corrupt cop who wants to kill his own brother, Pfft, Derrick is a Drug addict, avoiding family, running away from them, slowly trying to kill himself, always paranoid, and wants to kill his brother. Edited February 15, 2012 by lol232 Link to post Share on other sites
Timcatgt5 337 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Killed Francis because a corrupt cop would never be trusted, he could have sent the criminal offense Niko committed to the LCPD anyway, Derrick seemed a person who tried to get away from the life of alcohol and drugs. Link to post Share on other sites
StormerBoy 1,828 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 I wouldn’t sleep with either of them tbh? Link to post Share on other sites
GrandTheftAuto101 2 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I wouldn’t sleep with either of them tbh? You're gay. Link to post Share on other sites
baclaine 1 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I wouldn’t sleep with either of them tbh? gay alarm go and hercules gayfag Link to post Share on other sites
Redketman 20 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I remember I was unsure when I played this mission four years ago. I eventuelly decided to kill Derrick because I thought I would get money for the job and because Francis was the one who raised the subject. Link to post Share on other sites
Lauslim12 0 Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Francis. I followed Niko's moral code and i don't like Francis. Link to post Share on other sites
Mokrie Dela 2,987 Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Francis. He's a loose end otherwise. He threaten's Niko with exposure - that decided his fate for me. Derrick's just a man who's down in my eyes. he never betrayed Niko, Francis threatened to. Plus, with Derrick gone, Francis could f*ck niko over big time. So francis. That said though, if you do take derrick you get francis's blackmailed ability of lowering wanted level. That complicates things but i could never stand Francis. He annoyed the f*ck out of me. Also Francis asks Niko to kill Derrick. Derrick requests so out of fear that he's a target or something, so another reason for Francis. That said i have killed both on different playthroughs, but Francis seems to be the definitive choice for me. Link to post Share on other sites
Meekail 418 Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 FRANCIS Link to post Share on other sites
UberChargedCJ 3 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 i shooted francis the commie Link to post Share on other sites
Hove Beach 1 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I hate both characters, francis for being such an ass and derrick cus I dont like him as a character, he's whiny and his missions suck. But you gotta kill Francis, he threatens you every time you get in touch with him. Niko's life is at stake there so storywise Id say itd be stupid not to kill him if you take into account all the things he says to Niko. Link to post Share on other sites
Hove Beach 1 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I remember I was unsure when I played this mission four years ago. I eventuelly decided to kill Derrick because I thought I would get money for the job and because Francis was the one who raised the subject. Well Francis raised the question doesn't that make him the bad guy in this? That's pretty much why I killed Francis.. Plus in IV you dont need money, cus you got too much. That's what sucked bout IV Link to post Share on other sites
MrDanceWithLance 2 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 I killed Derrick, as I would get a large sum of money, and the ability to remove a wanted level. ant_sh 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. John 232 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=505627 Francis as he screwed Niko. Link to post Share on other sites
SmC12 10 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 I killed Francis, he was a corrupt cop treating Niko like a bitch. Derrick was old and suffered alot and got caught up in drugs and depression, I had sympathy for him despite him complaining alot. Neither of them were of any particular use but if we're going for moral decisions then Francis seemed like the right choice to me, he didn't deserve to keep his position in the force - and he knew all about Niko's history and his crimes, and used it as blackmail, so he was a threat to a criminal like Niko and he needed to die. Copcaller 1 Link to post Share on other sites