xNewtype Acex Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 R* don't need time to promote the game, that is rubbish. Usually they'll wack a short add on tele, saying that it's out now, and that's about it. R* don't need to waste money on promotions, when the game already has a huge demand. It's not "rubbish". It's busniess. They make the most money if they promote. Have you not been reading the thread? Yeah, alright then, why have we heard only jack sh*t about the game so far? You're right it's business, so they will spend as little as needed in that area. I bet you a sh*t load you will see no hype or promotion from R* before it's release, apart from a trailer or two. Yeah no, I dont think that's gonna happen. Expect a marketing campaign similar to the one for IV, multiple trailers, character/place specific trailers, making of videos, maybe game play videos, lots of coverage in gaming magazines/shows/sites, ads on buildings, etc etc Seriously, thinking any other way is just downright naive. Yeah, alright then, why have we heard only jack sh*t about the game so far? Please remember the long time we had to wait from the time when they announced IV to when they released the first trailer: months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeycan8 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I have reason to believe that it is coming out September 4th of this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingdongs Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I don't think they're anticipating a lot of competition... this is Grand Theft Auto. It doesn't have competition. I'm not just saying that either. Of course if it's released at the same time COD is, the kids will have to choose what to spend their money on, but that's the only downside I can see. They aren't going to release some piece of sh*t game in March/April that's barely done because they don't want to compete with CoD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Sevens Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 R* don't need time to promote the game, that is rubbish. Usually they'll wack a short add on tele, saying that it's out now, and that's about it. R* don't need to waste money on promotions, when the game already has a huge demand. It's not "rubbish". It's busniess. They make the most money if they promote. Have you not been reading the thread? Yeah, alright then, why have we heard only jack sh*t about the game so far? You're right it's business, so they will spend as little as needed in that area. I bet you a sh*t load you will see no hype or promotion from R* before it's release, apart from a trailer or two. Yeah no, I dont think that's gonna happen. Expect a marketing campaign similar to the one for IV, multiple trailers, character/place specific trailers, making of videos, maybe game play videos, lots of coverage in gaming magazines/shows/sites, ads on buildings, etc etc Seriously, thinking any other way is just downright naive. Yeah, alright then, why have we heard only jack sh*t about the game so far? Please remember the long time we had to wait from the time when they announced IV to when they released the first trailer: months. No no no. When the game is ready it will be released. R* are very eager to get this out there. Why spend months spending money, when they could be making money buy selling the damn thing? They can promote it once it's out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xNewtype Acex Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Wow, you, you're not very smart are you? No no no. Yes yes yes. When the game is ready it will be released. R* are very eager to get this out there. Except this aint gonna happen, the people at R* aint gonna finish the game the be "lol it's done lets release this b*tch tomorrow lol" and expect everyone to just run to their local game store to buy it. Why? Because, Marketing. You can bet your ass off 20 times they're gonna hype this game for months specially as we get closer to the release date. Why spend months spending money, when they could be making money buy selling the damn thing? They can promote it once it's out. Because as I already said, to create hype, the point is to make everyone and their mother's dog to know GTA V is big, is loud and is coming out soon. MORE PEOPLE ARE AWARE ITS COMING OUT = MORE PREORDERS & MORE PEOPLE PLANNING TO BUY IT And besides, it's not as if R* is some small studio, they're one of the most profitable studios in the business, with GTA IV being one of the more profitable games in the business, they are not afraid on investing millions of marketing, because thy damn well know they're getting all that money back 2x times. It's simple freaking business 101, good marketing + good products = better sales. Oh and BTW, you can expect there to be a huge marketing campaign both before and after the game is released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meezarawcks Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) I'm putting my money on October. March-May is waaayyyy too close considering how they haven't even started hyping the game. They need a fairly large time period to get the marketing campaign going, and since they haven't started that yet, we can be confident it won't be released until at least summer or fall. I think the hype is pretty big even now after just 1 trailer and minor announcement. No, not really. It's marketing, son. They have to be featured in several magazines, release several more trailers, screenshots, the whole nine yards. Considering it's already February chances are it won't be released until October. Yeah I get it's marketing, "son". I just stated a simple fact that the hype is pretty big considering the info we already have. Didn't say it needed no improvement or was enough. Edited February 1, 2012 by Meezarawcks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludzidocelowych Posted February 1, 2012 Author Share Posted February 1, 2012 I don't think they're anticipating a lot of competition... this is Grand Theft Auto. It doesn't have competition. I'm not just saying that either. Of course if it's released at the same time COD is, the kids will have to choose what to spend their money on, but that's the only downside I can see. They aren't going to release some piece of sh*t game in March/April that's barely done because they don't want to compete with CoD. Unless they have been dong nothing but crack is 2008/2009, i highly doubt this game is only barely finished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOTMILFDAD Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I don't think they're anticipating a lot of competition... this is Grand Theft Auto. It doesn't have competition. I'm not just saying that either. Of course if it's released at the same time COD is, the kids will have to choose what to spend their money on, but that's the only downside I can see. They aren't going to release some piece of sh*t game in March/April that's barely done because they don't want to compete with CoD. Unless they have been dong nothing but crack is 2008/2009, i highly doubt this game is only barely finished You are aware that a game like GTA takes hundreds of thousands lines of code, then testing, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Sevens Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Wow, you, you're not very smart are you? No no no. Yes yes yes. When the game is ready it will be released. R* are very eager to get this out there. Except this aint gonna happen, the people at R* aint gonna finish the game the be "lol it's done lets release this b*tch tomorrow lol" and expect everyone to just run to their local game store to buy it. Why? Because, Marketing. You can bet your ass off 20 times they're gonna hype this game for months specially as we get closer to the release date. Why spend months spending money, when they could be making money buy selling the damn thing? They can promote it once it's out. Because as I already said, to create hype, the point is to make everyone and their mother's dog to know GTA V is big, is loud and is coming out soon. MORE PEOPLE ARE AWARE ITS COMING OUT = MORE PREORDERS & MORE PEOPLE PLANNING TO BUY IT And besides, it's not as if R* is some small studio, they're one of the most profitable studios in the business, with GTA IV being one of the more profitable games in the business, they are not afraid on investing millions of marketing, because thy damn well know they're getting all that money back 2x times. It's simple freaking business 101, good marketing + good products = better sales. Oh and BTW, you can expect there to be a huge marketing campaign both before and after the game is released. Yeah well we will see who is right. The space between completing the game, and getting it on discs and in store will be rather short. This is the only gap they might use for promotion. What is the point of advertising something that is not yet available to buy? If you think they are going to spend 3 months having parades down the main street, banging on about a game that's not even out, then you clearly would never make it far in business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunkyman Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) Yeah well we will see who is right. The space between completing the game, and getting it on discs and in store will be rather short. This is the only gap they might use for promotion. What is the point of advertising something that is not yet available to buy? If you think they are going to spend 3 months having parades down the main street, banging on about a game that's not even out, then you clearly would never make it far in business. Uhh... We will be right. It's called standard business strategy. And since Rockstar isn't dumb, they will follow it. I'll outline the basics of video game marketing. Step 1: Announce the game. Step 2: Teaser Trailer (this is where Rockstar is currently at). Step 3: Get featured in gaming magazine. Show concept art. Explain some new features. Step 4: Show product at video game expo. (Like E3) Step 5: Put up billboards, make posters, etc. Step 6: Make more trailers. This can include gameplay, "making of", or interviews. Step 7: TV commercials. Step 8: Release game during Christmas shopping season. (Or during spring, the other standard release time) (Steps 3-7 can be completed in any order and repeated as much as needed.) The game will not be released until every one of these steps has been completed. Since that will take a minimum of 4-5 months (and the fact they avoid summer releases) means the game will be released this fall or possible next spring. Edited February 1, 2012 by Chunkyman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludzidocelowych Posted February 1, 2012 Author Share Posted February 1, 2012 Yeah well we will see who is right. The space between completing the game, and getting it on discs and in store will be rather short. This is the only gap they might use for promotion. What is the point of advertising something that is not yet available to buy? If you think they are going to spend 3 months having parades down the main street, banging on about a game that's not even out, then you clearly would never make it far in business. Uhh... We will be right. It's called business strategy. I'll outline the basics of video game marketing. Step 1: Announce the game. Step 2: Teaser Trailer (this is where Rockstar is currently at). Step 3: Get featured in gaming magazine. Show concept art. Explain some new features. Step 4: Show product at video game expo. (Like E3) Step 5: Put up billboards, make posters, etc. Step 6: Make more trailers. This can include gameplay, "making of", or interviews. Step 7: TV commercials. Step 8: Release game during Christmas shopping season. (Or during spring, the other standard release time) Steps 3-7 can be completed in any order and repeated as much as needed. This won't happen, all of that would take at least another year, Rockstar is not gonna make us wait another f*cking year, that is horrible business Believe it or not, Hype for a game can die out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 This won't happen, all of that would take at least another year, Rockstar is not gonna make us wait another f*cking year, that is horrible business They can and will if they feel it's necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludzidocelowych Posted February 1, 2012 Author Share Posted February 1, 2012 This won't happen, all of that would take at least another year, Rockstar is not gonna make us wait another f*cking year, that is horrible business They can and will if they feel it's necessary. This will carry the very high risk of killing the hype for the game Mine, and lots of peoples patience has it's limits, how is it anything but bad business to announce your bestselling product two years before it is released? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 This won't happen, all of that would take at least another year, Rockstar is not gonna make us wait another f*cking year, that is horrible business They can and will if they feel it's necessary. This will carry the very high risk of killing the hype for the game Mine, and lots of peoples patience has it's limits, how is it anything but bad business to announce your bestselling product two years before it is released? Well I suppose there's already living proof since MP3 was announced in 2009 and now it's being released in a few months. That's 3 years and people are still hyped for the game. No matter if GTA V is released this year or next year if people want it bad enough they will wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gtaghost22 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I have reason to believe that it is coming out September 4th of this year. REASON!!!?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunkyman Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 This won't happen, all of that would take at least another year, Rockstar is not gonna make us wait another f*cking year, that is horrible business This isn't some random idea I came up with, it's stuff you learn in Marketing 101. Besides, it doesn't have to take another year (although it could). E3 2012 is likely where they will crank the "Hype Machine" up to full blast. This will be to prepare for a logical October/November release. Take Skyrim as an example. It was announced in Dec of 2010 and by June on 2011 they had started to put serious effort into marketing. It took about 5-6 months before they started heavily marketing their game, and another 6 months before the game was released. It was almost a year of buildup before release! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludzidocelowych Posted February 1, 2012 Author Share Posted February 1, 2012 This won't happen, all of that would take at least another year, Rockstar is not gonna make us wait another f*cking year, that is horrible business They can and will if they feel it's necessary. This will carry the very high risk of killing the hype for the game Mine, and lots of peoples patience has it's limits, how is it anything but bad business to announce your bestselling product two years before it is released? Well I suppose there's already living proof since MP3 was announced in 2009 and now it's being released in a few months. That's 3 years and people are still hyped for the game. No matter if GTA V is released this year or next year if people want it bad enough they will wait. I haven't heard anyone excited for any MP game since the first one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphonse_666 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 This won't happen, all of that would take at least another year, Rockstar is not gonna make us wait another f*cking year, that is horrible business They can and will if they feel it's necessary. This will carry the very high risk of killing the hype for the game Mine, and lots of peoples patience has it's limits, how is it anything but bad business to announce your bestselling product two years before it is released? Well I suppose there's already living proof since MP3 was announced in 2009 and now it's being released in a few months. That's 3 years and people are still hyped for the game. No matter if GTA V is released this year or next year if people want it bad enough they will wait. I haven't heard anyone excited for any MP game since the first one. Me either, i dont know anyone who even likes the games! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Sevens Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Yeah well we will see who is right. The space between completing the game, and getting it on discs and in store will be rather short. This is the only gap they might use for promotion. What is the point of advertising something that is not yet available to buy? If you think they are going to spend 3 months having parades down the main street, banging on about a game that's not even out, then you clearly would never make it far in business. Uhh... We will be right. It's called standard business strategy. And since Rockstar isn't dumb, they will follow it. I'll outline the basics of video game marketing. Step 1: Announce the game. Step 2: Teaser Trailer (this is where Rockstar is currently at). Step 3: Get featured in gaming magazine. Show concept art. Explain some new features. Step 4: Show product at video game expo. (Like E3) Step 5: Put up billboards, make posters, etc. Step 6: Make more trailers. This can include gameplay, "making of", or interviews. Step 7: TV commercials. Step 8: Release game during Christmas shopping season. (Or during spring, the other standard release time) (Steps 3-7 can be completed in any order and repeated as much as needed.) The game will not be released until every one of these steps has been completed. Since that will take a minimum of 4-5 months (and the fact they avoid summer releases) means the game will be released this fall or possible next spring. That is foolish thinking. I'd get pissed off if I knew the game was ready, but all I got were posters and interviews and adds and trailers and blah blah blah... Wouldn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xNewtype Acex Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 What is the point of advertising something that is not yet available to buy? You cannot be this fºcking retarded. I am sorry, but I can't do this, I feel like I am talking to a goddamn brick wall here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic_Al Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Competition is irrelevant to GTA. COD worries about when GTA is coming out. GTA doesn't care when COD is coming out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunkyman Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 That is foolish thinking. I'd get pissed off if I knew the game was ready, but all I got were posters and interviews and adds and trailers and blah blah blah... Wouldn't you? The game doesn't have to be complete to do any of this. The marketing campaign is concurrent with the development. It's not like the game is completely done and they spend a year hyping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn 7 five 11 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 You know, the reason (I think) that MP3 is released in may is because it has no competition, and the game needs as many sales as it can get, as it is not overly popular. GTA V on the other hand is the biggest release of 2012, it does not matter if it has competition, it will still be a sellout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Sevens Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 That is foolish thinking. I'd get pissed off if I knew the game was ready, but all I got were posters and interviews and adds and trailers and blah blah blah... Wouldn't you? The game doesn't have to be complete to do any of this. The marketing campaign is concurrent with the development. It's not like the game is completely done and they spend a year hyping. When it's ready it will be released. FFS So far in development we have seen no marketing, one trailer, and you'll get f*ck all more than that, maybe another one until it's released. Name one video game ever that was advertised on tv months before it was released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunkyman Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) Name one video game ever that was advertised on tv months before it was released. If you would have read what I posted, TV commercials are one of the final steps in pre-release marketing. They are expensive, so they only air for a few weeks prior to release. There is a TON of marketing (including E3 coverage, magazine articles, posters, billboards, interviews, etc) that Rockstar has not started yet. They will not release a game without promoting it first! Edited February 1, 2012 by Chunkyman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOTMILFDAD Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) This won't happen, all of that would take at least another year, Rockstar is not gonna make us wait another f*cking year, that is horrible business They can and will if they feel it's necessary. This will carry the very high risk of killing the hype for the game Mine, and lots of peoples patience has it's limits, how is it anything but bad business to announce your bestselling product two years before it is released? Well I suppose there's already living proof since MP3 was announced in 2009 and now it's being released in a few months. That's 3 years and people are still hyped for the game. No matter if GTA V is released this year or next year if people want it bad enough they will wait. I haven't heard anyone excited for any MP game since the first one. Me either, i dont know anyone who even likes the games! meeeee That is foolish thinking. I'd get pissed off if I knew the game was ready, but all I got were posters and interviews and adds and trailers and blah blah blah... Wouldn't you? Okay so, let's just put this in perspective. That film poster is from a movie that I am looking forward to watching very much so. They finished shooting and they are I think 85-95% done with the ending (save for some color correction, etc.). What you're saying is f*ck the trailers, posters, commercials, interviews, etc. Just release the movie without generating any form of promotion? Makes no sense. Especially given the fact this movie is of high caliber. Without promotion they would make let's say $1000 With promotion they would make 10x that due to the amount of people who know about the product. Face it, man. Promotion helps Rockstar earn money to fund another GTA game which in turn makes you a happy little camper. Name one video game ever that was advertised on tv months before it was released. Easy. GTA III, Vice City, and San Andreas. I remember seeing TV commercials a month or two before they were released and telling my parents that I wanted that game when it came out! (come to think of it, they got pissed off that I wanted it lol. Probably because it looked "adultish") Edited February 1, 2012 by Nigel xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Sevens Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) This won't happen, all of that would take at least another year, Rockstar is not gonna make us wait another f*cking year, that is horrible business They can and will if they feel it's necessary. This will carry the very high risk of killing the hype for the game Mine, and lots of peoples patience has it's limits, how is it anything but bad business to announce your bestselling product two years before it is released? Well I suppose there's already living proof since MP3 was announced in 2009 and now it's being released in a few months. That's 3 years and people are still hyped for the game. No matter if GTA V is released this year or next year if people want it bad enough they will wait. I haven't heard anyone excited for any MP game since the first one. Me either, i dont know anyone who even likes the games! meeeee That is foolish thinking. I'd get pissed off if I knew the game was ready, but all I got were posters and interviews and adds and trailers and blah blah blah... Wouldn't you? Okay so, let's just put this in perspective. That film poster is from a movie that I am looking forward to watching very much so. They finished shooting and they are I think 85-95% done with the ending (save for some color correction, etc.). What you're saying is f*ck the trailers, posters, commercials, interviews, etc. Just release the movie without generating any form of promotion? Makes no sense. Especially given the fact this movie is of high caliber. Without promotion they would make let's say $1000 With promotion they would make 10x that due to the amount of people who know about the product. Face it, man. Promotion helps Rockstar earn money to fund another GTA game which in turn makes you a happy little camper. Name one video game ever that was advertised on tv months before it was released. Easy. GTA III, Vice City, and San Andreas. I remember seeing TV commercials a month or two before they were released and telling my parents that I wanted that game when it came out! (come to think of it, they got pissed off that I wanted it lol. Probably because it looked "adultish") That is a film, that is going to be out, for a short time only in theatres, so it's needs mass advertising and promoting. GTA V is a game, that will be on the market for ever, that almost anybody who gives half a sh*t about, knows it's coming out. There is simply very little need to try and sell the game, all they really need do is just put it on the shelves and announce it's there. The extra few customers they might gain through mass advertising, would not cover the costs of doing it. Also, I don't recall seeing any past GTA adds on tv before it was released. I don't think I've ever seen an add for a video game on tv saying coming out soon. Edited February 1, 2012 by Lucky Sevens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOTMILFDAD Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 That is a film, that is going to be out, for a short time only in theatres, so it's needs mass advertising and promoting. GTA V is a game, that will be on the market for ever, that almost anybody who gives half a sh*t about, knows it's coming out. There is simply very little need to try and sell the game, all they really need do is just put it on the shelves and announce it's there. The extra few customers they might gain through mass advertising, would not cover the costs of doing it. Also, I don't recall seeing any past GTA adds on tv before it was released. I don't think I've ever seen an add for a video game on tv saying coming out soon. And yet, when it comes to Blu-Ray and DVD, there will be commericals and Posters promoting the film again. Same thing for games. GTA V will be promoted. Deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xNewtype Acex Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 GTA V is a game, that will be on the market for ever, that almost anybody who gives half a sh*t about, knows it's coming out. There is simply very little need to try and sell the game, all they really need do is just put it on the shelves and announce it's there. The extra few customers they might gain through mass advertising, would not cover the costs of doing it. dis nigga high y'all nobody even think of replying to him lest you want your IQ to drop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Sevens Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 GTA V is a game, that will be on the market for ever, that almost anybody who gives half a sh*t about, knows it's coming out. There is simply very little need to try and sell the game, all they really need do is just put it on the shelves and announce it's there. The extra few customers they might gain through mass advertising, would not cover the costs of doing it. dis nigga high y'all nobody even think of replying to him lest you want your IQ to drop You just did! But whatever. GTA is very underground and will need a sh*t load of promoting if any fool is going to buy it, I mean, none of us here will buy it unless we get adds right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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