Dksidekick Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Ok so I want to buy a capture card, So I can record stuff from my Xbox 360 to my PC. What I need help with: 1. What Capture card should I get? (Please leave a link to Amazon or Ebay please. UK Site) 2. How to set it up? (Good Instructions to the capture card above.) 3. Cheapest one as possible, But decent quality. (I probably won't go over £40) 4. I don't want one where I have to buy all the other crap to go with it, I will if you could leave a link to everything tho. Thank you to anyone who Answers my questions properly. Also to Mods and Admins, Sorry if I got the wrong place for my question, if you could direct me to the proper place it would be Much appreciated. Thanks A lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf68k Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 We had someone else recently looking to do the same thing. In that topic liek pointed out that you would need to split the video coming out of the console (in your case Xbox) one end going to a TV and the other to your PC, the reason being is that large amount of lag that you would end up getting going just to the PC and trying to play. I offered this as a solution, AVerMedia Game Capture HD – Record Xbox 360, PS3 and Wii in real time without a PC! MTVGCAPHD. Now I know this link is for Newegg which is USA and Canada only as far as I know but maybe you can find one in the UK as well maybe at Amazon UK (found it). You connect your Xbox to it via component cables and from there to the TV. You can use a USB stick/external HDD or get a 2.5" (laptop) SATA HDD to mount in the bottom to record your footage onto. From there you just move the drive to your PC and copy the footage off. It records to AVI using H.264 video and MP3 audio so any player should be able to play it just fine and and most editors should allow it to be imported for editing. There's a video on that link that shows a demo of hooking it up and game play/recording. It is £129.99 though which I know is well over your £40 budget but it might be something worth looking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOSEPH X Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 That looks great. It's easy to install and transfer stuff to youtube. A lot less complicated than Dazzle. Think I might get that. Thanks Wolf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOONDOX CHROME Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Hey wolf, says it saves the file to an .avi file, at this point can u edit the video like with Sony Vegas? Thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 The old analog route is run a signal via USB capture device, as you would hooking to a display, I've used Dazzle's stuff before sticking to ADS Tech IIRC, Been awhile, but now you can just get a Digital8 Sony Handycam which unlike other camcorders STILL works like a VCR, so any signal can come out and go in the same mini AV jack, and it converts to firewire any thing in tape!! 8mm is still around, you'd be surprised, it's not costly to do either! I just bought another D8 Sony for only $40 bucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf68k Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 @BOONDOX CHROME I've never used Sony Vegas so I have no idea. If you already use it you can try finding an AVI H.264 with MP3 audio and see if it'll import or not. Sorry I can't be much more help than that. @Slamman ?!?! That sounds like a you're saying to connect the Xbox to a camcorder and record to that. If that is the case then there are 2 problems with that. 1. The only way to record would be to connect the camcorder up to the TV's output while the Xbox is on the input. 2. For the price, and knowing you, that sounds like a very old camera one that uses composite video. And who the hell wants that? Now to top all of that off he'll still have to get a digital capture device to connect to his PC using USB, the chances he has firewire is slim because most people don't. He is going to want HD quality and you're not going to get that with a VCR much less an old used and abused camcorder that can act as a VCR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 No need for a TV using a camcorder to record your gameplay, each Handycam Vision has an LCD and viewfinder built in, size maybe a factor for some, but it's enough of a preview to see what you're doing, I've had great success with real time analog to digital encoding, and I never expected to like D8 hybrid format that Sony had come up with, but it DOES WORK, and it works amazingly well, if you have a DV Firewire port, it's something to seriously consider, I think iLink or Firewire can work better then USB 2 for some videos I've transferred. If you split a composite vid signal, which you CAN do, using Radio Shack splitters, the signal loses it's integrity further however, but the direct analog to digital done in the Sony cameras is with very little loss considering all the analog sources you can capture from! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf68k Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 ROTFLMAO so you expect him to look a tiny 2-3inch LCD screen to play a video game that is better designed to work on a screen that is at least 20inches And it doesn't matter how much "great success with real time analog to digital encoding" you've had. The encoding isn't the issue with using something that is basically a VCR. It's the quality. What you're talking about is the equivalent turning a beautiful 1080i Blu-ray movie and turn it into a muddy crappy looking VHS tape. Yes, firewire can work better than USB2.0...IF you have firewire which most people don't. @Dksidekick I am truly sorry for this. Even though I know it says he's been "busted" so there is little point in me saying this because he can't reply at least, but it's the thought that counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 As a matter of fact, you don't need to see every minute detail to record to the cam and transfer (via Firewire/iLink) to your PC, the added VCR bonus is that anything analog can go to the Sony D8 series camera and convert without any fancy hardware or expense. The brand mentioned earlier, I bought one as well, but as a hardware PCI card, like the old All in Wonder ATIs, which are in HD now! You should avoid any CPU heavy USB based capture method, I had a horrible time with this plug and play capture devices, and they still sell them, so just avoid that garbage! ADS makes some good USB tools, Dazzle was bought out by Pinnacle as mentioned many times in the past. The idea of having HD was never proposed except by you, and of course, on a big screen display you might want HD, but for YT's small windows....Nope, not needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOONDOX CHROME Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Thanks guys, i really thank you for ur help! Think I'm going to spend a LiL money's an make sum great vids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn 7 five 11 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) I was just wondering, why not use a PVR? By the way make sure you get a good quality Card or PVR either way you go, otherwise quality of the video will suck. Edited January 31, 2012 by finn4life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf68k Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 @finn A PVR is what I posted to start with. DVR and PVR are the same thing. @Slamman You don't get it do you. You're right, you don't need to see every little detail while recording to a camcorder, and it's good thing too...because you can't. You can however see every little detail when the console is connected directly to a TV using HDMI or component cables right? Well that's part of what he wants to capture. Look I tell you what, try this some time. First go download SUPER encoder. Then go download a blu-ray ripped movie, being an ISO (for best possible quality) or even an MKV (MKV is the better choice to save time). Make sure you're able to watch it on a good quality LCD (no CRT) monitor or HDTV connected with at least a DVI connection. Now encode that video file with SUPER, set it to encode to VCD Std Compliant. Once it done watch that video. Pay attention to both. The VCD version will look a lot crappier than the MKV/ISO. VCD is only about a half step up from VCR quality only because it's digital and in this case started off being digital. However with your suggestion, you take a clean beautiful image (inside the Xbox) and cram it through a composite cable, it doesn't matter if it's converted to digital inside the camera or on the PC, it'll ALWAYS be an crappy compressed analog image. Try this for an analogy: (by the way, sorry guys for doing this I know it's a bit off topic but I'm trying to stop someone from giving completely wrong advise and information) You have with 3 colors of paint; Red, Green and Blue. You have to get these 3 paints from one place to another and you have to do so using a choice of pipes. And once on the other side they go into 1 place, a bucket. 1 option is a single pipe, which means once it gets to the other side it'll go into 1 bucket, all of the colors at the same time are poured into this single pipe, now at the other end they call come out of the pipe at the same time but because the paint is so thick they don't completely mix together so you end up with 1 bucket with 3 colors, think of it like those peanut butter and jelly in a jar (like this), it's not quite mixed but not completely separate either so you end up with some colors mixing just a bit with their others. Option 2 is 3 pipes in this case there are 3 buckets, again all 3 paints are poured at the same time but into each their own pipe, so at the other end each color comes out separately and can remain just as beautiful as they were when they started, no need to worry about each color having any trace amounts of the other 2 mixed in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I don't listen to your logic since I'm talking about a method I use, and works, that's all there is to it, bottom line, if you can't see it, then you must do away with every SMALL SCREEN device that is now common place in society, again, HD recording, probably best suited to a card approach, or hardware that can handle it at a fast clip, not a simple USB device Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf68k Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Not surprising you don't listen to logic. Yes, I'm sure your method works BUT it's a very old way of doing it. Back when watching a VHS tape was pretty much the only way to watch something it made perfect since. What you're not getting is that it's REALLY BAD QUALITY. The purpose of the small screen on the camera isn't so you can see every little detail. It's to give you and idea of the camera lens has within it's field of view. It's not mean to be what you will end up watching on a TV when you play it back later. You're absolutely right, HD recording is best suited for a card or hardware that can handle it, hence the device I listed to begin with!....aka an example of a logical choice; aka my logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) logic is behind my idea offering as well, it's all relative, THE NEEDS and REQUIREMENTS of the user dictate what they chose, it works to use a D8 camcorder because it switches AUTOMATICALLY between DIGITAL and ANALOG, it also supports Digital Audio dubbing, and I find for the price, and my personal history archived, it's worth owning, and I have three of them now, since I discovered how keen they are Here's what I'd do in searching for some HD or Hi Def ideas, any Search Engine can be used in this manner: I have the same brand as mentioned above, it was a Craigslist LOCAL buy, I still have it, it captures via a PCI card slot that is common place. Add to that bit O Knowledge, a Firewire CARD for PCI slots are easy to find, not hidden in the ground, you can get Firewire if not supported via header or on a laptop mainboard to begin with. http://www.ask.com/web?q=HD+capture+for+Xb...src=0&o=0&l=dir BTW, maybe you need glasses for small text on small display screens, A EVF allows specific focusing up close, it maybe color, it maybe B/W, but you can actually see details up close, like using binocs! haha Edited January 31, 2012 by Slamman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf68k Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) [email protected] your ask.com link After the Shopping part the second result is to a YT video of the device that I already linked to. Imagine that. Ok this has gotten out of hand, although funny enough that Slamman after all of you babbling turns out to prove me right in the end...too damn funny. And since the OP is busted for who knows how long and the other interested in this have gotten their answer, this is getting locked. Edited January 31, 2012 by Wolf68k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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