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How large does the map need to be?


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When you think about the size of Red Dead Redemption, WELL, GTA should be bigger then THAT map, not any previous GTA map in comparison

You think that Red Dead Redemption's map is huge because you're travelling with a horse, but if you do with a plane it wouldn't be too big, seriously

 

I hope that is 2 times bigger than San Andreas' map

you do realize that Red Dead's Map was bigger then San Andreas map right?

 

back on topic...

 

I expect the map to be REALLY BIG after the statement by Dan Houser

 

Probably 2/3 times as big as RDR

What did the housers say about rdr's map previous to release did he say very big map because I agree with you it's probabaly huge coming from him and I just wanted to know if they said rdr's map was big or that it was te bigges map they had created to date I think that is what they said

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When you think about the size of Red Dead Redemption, WELL, GTA should be bigger then THAT map, not any previous GTA map in comparison

You think that Red Dead Redemption's map is huge because you're travelling with a horse, but if you do with a plane it wouldn't be too big, seriously

 

I hope that is 2 times bigger than San Andreas' map

you do realize that Red Dead's Map was bigger then San Andreas map right?

 

back on topic...

 

I expect the map to be REALLY BIG after the statement by Dan Houser

 

Probably 2/3 times as big as RDR

What did the housers say about rdr's map previous to release did he say very big map because I agree with you it's probabaly huge coming from him and I just wanted to know if they said rdr's map was big or that it was te bigges map they had created to date I think that is what they said

Houser didn't say anything about RDR's map to my knowledge. He may of but I haven't read about it. I'm just speculating off of my own knowledge from playing RDR and SA. RDR had a bigger map if i'm not mistaken.

 

 

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When you think about the size of Red Dead Redemption, WELL, GTA should be bigger then THAT map, not any previous GTA map in comparison

You think that Red Dead Redemption's map is huge because you're travelling with a horse, but if you do with a plane it wouldn't be too big, seriously

 

I hope that is 2 times bigger than San Andreas' map

you do realize that Red Dead's Map was bigger then San Andreas map right?

 

back on topic...

 

I expect the map to be REALLY BIG after the statement by Dan Houser

 

Probably 2/3 times as big as RDR

What did the housers say about rdr's map previous to release did he say very big map because I agree with you it's probabaly huge coming from him and I just wanted to know if they said rdr's map was big or that it was te bigges map they had created to date I think that is what they said

Houser didn't say anything about RDR's map to my knowledge. He may of but I haven't read about it. I'm just speculating off of my own knowledge from playing RDR and SA. RDR had a bigger map if i'm not mistaken.

Thanks and yeah I'll have to check again but when the game was being shown they were saying something about it having the biggest map they had made

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Hopefully as big as Liberty City, but with countryside. I don't want anything too big.

 

Has anyone seen that fake map? That huge with with lots of countryside, and a huge city with many roads? A lot of people say they would love it if that was going to be the actual map, but that is just too much. You would never be able to learn the city very well, there would be literally too much to explore. I would rather have the size of Liberty City, with loads of detail.

I don't get it... Why do so many people not want a huge interactive map if Rockstar manages to pull it off? You would still be able to learn the city very well even if the map was as massive as these fake maps, it would just take longer (and I don't understand how that's a BAD thing). If you paid 60 bucks or whatever, why would you not want the most bang for your buck? Wouldn't having tons of things to be able to do after the story will allow more gameplay?

 

This is why i played San Andreas well past the story, because there was simply so much to do. GTA IV kinda lost it's mojo after the story and a few weeks of multiplayer IMO.

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Hopefully as big as Liberty City, but with countryside. I don't want anything too big.

 

Has anyone seen that fake map? That huge with with lots of countryside, and a huge city with many roads? A lot of people say they would love it if that was going to be the actual map, but that is just too much. You would never be able to learn the city very well, there would be literally too much to explore. I would rather have the size of Liberty City, with loads of detail.

I don't get it... Why do so many people not want a huge interactive map if Rockstar manages to pull it off? You would still be able to learn the city very well even if the map was as massive as these fake maps, it would just take longer (and I don't understand how that's a BAD thing). If you paid 60 bucks or whatever, why would you not want the most bang for your buck? Wouldn't having tons of things to be able to do after the story will allow more gameplay?

 

This is why i played San Andreas well past the story, because there was simply so much to do. GTA IV kinda lost it's mojo after the story and a few weeks of multiplayer IMO.

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I'm hoping that Los Santos is 2X bigger than Liberty City (I think that's guaranteed), a San Diego replica slightly bigger than LC, and a Tijuana around the same size as Algonquin, Broker and Dukes, or AKA, around the same size as Empire Bay in Mafia II. And of course, we have a HUGE countryside, with small suburban towns and forests, hunting and other fun stuff!

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I think a size increase of about 50% compared to IV would be sufficient to fit both a countryside and city into.

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I'd be perfectly fine with Los Santos being pretty much the same size as IV's Liberty City as long as there are a few other towns plus a good amount of countryside.

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I'd be perfectly fine with Los Santos being pretty much the same size as IV's Liberty City as long as there are a few other towns plus a good amount of countryside.

And animals to fill country side, i never explored it once in SA cause there's nothing but trees.

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As big as the map needs to be to properly keep the story going, and big enough so our adventures NEVER end on San Andreas. That can include one city, countryside, and numerous towns, or just ONE big city. Whatever it is, I am confident Rockstar will know what to do. They have never done it wrong in a GTA title yet.

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Personaly I'd like a big map, but nothing to big. That way it has the details of IV, but is also somewhat large.

 

I expect LS to be a bit bigger than LC in IV,if it's the only major city, and then the countryside to be that big, if not a little bigger than the same size. If there's another major city, as a San Diego based one I see it being about the size of Algonquin, Broker, and Dukes, maybe a little smaller.

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RDR sized will do me. Maybe a tad bigger. The city better have the same detail as LC though.

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Houser didn't say anything about RDR's map to my knowledge. He may of but I haven't read about it. I'm just speculating off of my own knowledge from playing RDR and SA. RDR had a bigger map if i'm not mistaken.

 

No. Based on measuring various features with in-game distance stas RDR is a bit more than 6 square miles, excluding out-of-bounds surroundings. (Due to the map's elongated shape and no shortcuts by air or water the distances between destinations are arguably the greatest, though.) GTA IV is a bit more than 3 square miles of land. At 13.9 square miles, fully accessible including underwater (about 11 square miles of land), GTA SA remains the largest world Rockstar has released.

 

Coincidentally if you added up the accessible urban, rural, and water area of GTA IV and RDR it's very close to equal of GTA SA. It just drives home what an incredible achievement of scale and detail GTA SA is that it has yet to be equalled in HD.

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No. Based on measuring various features with in-game distance stas RDR is a bit more than 6 square miles, excluding out-of-bounds surroundings. (Due to the map's elongated shape and no shortcuts by air or water the distances between destinations are arguably the greatest, though.) GTA IV is a bit more than 3 square miles of land. At 13.9 square miles, fully accessible including underwater (about 11 square miles of land), GTA SA remains the largest world Rockstar has released.

 

Coincidentally if you added up the accessible urban, rural, and water area of GTA IV and RDR it's very close to equal of GTA SA. It just drives home what an incredible achievement of scale and detail GTA SA is that it has yet to be equalled in HD.

If that's the case than something is wrong because whenever I play RDR it feels ALOT bigger than the map implies.

 

Maybe that's all R* really need? Maybe not an enormous map as such, but they could create the illusion it's much bigger than it is. I get that with GTA IV too.

 

SA doesn't feel as big though.

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No. Based on measuring various features with in-game distance stas RDR is a bit more than 6 square miles, excluding out-of-bounds surroundings. (Due to the map's elongated shape and no shortcuts by air or water the distances between destinations are arguably the greatest, though.)  GTA IV is a bit more than 3 square miles of land. At 13.9 square miles, fully accessible including underwater (about 11 square miles of land), GTA SA remains the largest world Rockstar has released.

 

Coincidentally if you added up the accessible urban, rural, and water area of GTA IV and RDR it's very close to equal of GTA SA. It just drives home what an incredible achievement of scale and detail GTA SA is that it has yet to be equalled in HD.

If that's the case than something is wrong because whenever I play RDR it feels ALOT bigger than the map implies.

 

Maybe that's all R* really need? Maybe not an enormous map as such, but they could create the illusion it's much bigger than it is. I get that with GTA IV too.

 

SA doesn't feel as big though.

Yeah I know what you mean RDR allways felt allot bigger than it is to me, then again it's on horse back, super detailed, open, and there's no air or water travel. Then again IV allways felt bigger to me too, then again it felt allot more "alive" than SA was.

 

I belive this was because a bulk of SA was pretty dead, I mean while it looked nice, nothing really happened in the countryside.

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I hope for a map at least 2 times as big as RDR's, which would make it have about 56 square miles, and with 40% of the map being LS, which would make LS have about 22,4 square miles, and the rest being countryside plus small towns.

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how long does it take for a shamal to cross SA?

 

anyway SA size would be fine, im more for quality over quantity

I think it takes a good five minutes with a plane but it's most likely because they are slowed down considerably and the sensation of speed is probably just an illusion with the clouds etc

Five minutes? I've flown from one end to another and It only took me about 2 minutes with a Shamal. It wouldn't even take 5 minutes with a Dodo.

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how long does it take for a shamal to cross SA?

 

anyway SA size would be fine, im more for quality over quantity

I think it takes a good five minutes with a plane but it's most likely because they are slowed down considerably and the sensation of speed is probably just an illusion with the clouds etc

Five minutes? I've flown from one end to another and It only took me about 2 minutes with a Shamal. It wouldn't even take 5 minutes with a Dodo.

My bad it feels like 5 minutes just flying across the map but your probably right

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I think it takes a good five minutes with a plane

 

Going from Bayside to the docks in LS takes 5 minutes yeah... in a car. With a plane it should be less than two minutes.

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Some people say that GTA V map has to be the same size as RDR because its big, first of all: you ride on a horse, that's

i don't know....4x slower than a car? + the city's in RDR were VERY small, i think Los Santos will be the size of Blackwater+Armadillo+mcfarlanes farm and then at least 4 times the size of that.

I think: GTA V has to be at least 2 or 3 times bigger than RDR...

 

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Two times the size of RDR would be fine. LS with a double of the size of Diez Coronas, Hennigan's Stead and whole West Elizabeth would be fine and the rest should be the countryside. On the other side of the map, there should be of course a little town or a village.

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Double the size of RDR with Mexico included with either a large border city or a few sparse towns. I really hope they bring Mexico back like what they did with RDR, it could be a lot more lawless and reckless in the border towns and you could get away with way more sh*t then when you're on the US side

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Im just thinking. Took em about 4 years to make liberty city for IV. And if it turns out V too have just one city (and additional rural areas), we will probably never get to see more than one city in the HD-era. Especially concidering the "city builders" of R* have had estimated 4,5 years building the enviroment for GTA V. Unless the 5x their stab or use like 10 years making their next games. I am really hoping for several cities in this one. I absolutely believe it can be pulled through.

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Im just thinking. Took em about 4 years to make liberty city for IV. And if it turns out V too have just one city (and additional rural areas), we will probably never get to see more than one city in the HD-era. Especially concidering the "city builders" of R* have had estimated 4,5 years building the enviroment for GTA V. Unless the 5x their stab or use like 10 years making their next games. I am really hoping for several cities in this one. I absolutely believe it can be pulled through.

Naah, it didn't took them 4 years to just create LC. It took them 4 years to make RAGE which took most of the development at that point. Now RAGE is complete, though theyre still improving it, and they can focus on the environment, the story, the side-quests etc.

Btw. it took 4 years to create Skyrim, too and Skyrim is much bigger than LC.

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Here's a size comparison of New Austin with Liberty City, found this rather interesting. Seems rather accurate too.

 

 

Click on this to view a MUCH larger version.

I expected LC smaller than this. Well, if this is really the case, something about 50% bigger than RDR should be enough. LS should have the size of LC and another city with the size half of Algonquin. Yeah, should be enough.

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