Drug use

[Fridope07]

I mostly only reply to stupid ideas and so uhm.. yeah its a STUPID idea.

 

For 1 it's kinda sad you want to be able to smoke and use drugs in a game, whats the point in it? It's not like you gain superpowers from it..

 

And 2nd, I really think it would influence people, which is bad. I don't think the violence in GTA effects anyone, but I'm sure druguse will. Whatever way you look at it, drugs destroy a lot of lifes.

Why would violence not influence people but drugs would? There is 0 logic to that statement. You know what els ruins lives, drunk driving, but that was a feature in the last game. And to all the people saying that the media will use this to against the game, the media is going to talk sh*t about this game regardless, it wouldn't make a bit of difference. The ignorance of some people is amazing to me, the anti drug propaganda is so strong in this country that people find it ok to blow a pedestrians brains out with a shotgun, but they think it's moraly irresponsible to use drugs in a game.

[SocalsZHP]

No point in using virtual drugs. Selling them will be cool but using them in a game I'm not down for. Only reason people get high is for the effects, I DGAF if my virtual character is virtually high. Not a bad idea though.

 

EDIT: Yes I'll still use it if it's in the game, but I won't miss it if it isn't.

[CubA_iLL_BrothA]

I mostly only reply to stupid ideas and so uhm.. yeah its a STUPID idea.

 

For 1 it's kinda sad you want to be able to smoke and use drugs in a game, whats the point in it? It's not like you gain superpowers from it..

 

And 2nd, I really think it would influence people, which is bad. I don't think the violence in GTA effects anyone, but I'm sure druguse will. Whatever way you look at it, drugs destroy a lot of lifes.

Weed doesn't, unless you abuse it..

 

I'll like to get high and be on top of a mountain and just step one foot down, begin tumbling down.

[UberChargedCJ]

what about drugs that heal you from being wounded?

[Fridope07]

what about drugs that heal you from being wounded?

Ya I think weed would be good for that, maybe not fully healed but like a little boost, maybe meth or coke could make you invulnerable for a short amount of time, scarface style!

[UberChargedCJ]

what about drugs that heal you from being wounded?

Ya I think weed would be good for that, maybe not fully healed but like a little boost, maybe meth or coke could make you invulnerable for a short amount of time, scarface style!

and what about the drug store? where you can buy drugs in game

[Fridope07]

what about drugs that heal you from being wounded?

Ya I think weed would be good for that, maybe not fully healed but like a little boost, maybe meth or coke could make you invulnerable for a short amount of time, scarface style!

and what about the drug store? where you can buy drugs in game

Haha what you meen like aspirin?

[UberChargedCJ]

i wasn't thinking about aspirine

[DaWiesel]

You guys need drugs to be high? Shame on you. The protagonists doesn't need them to be cool, that is one thing, that i like in all GTAs. They never take drugs. They don't need them to be the Real Deals! So no, i'm good with selling drugs. That's a great feature in CTW.

[chuckberry04]

 

I mostly only reply to stupid ideas and so uhm.. yeah its a STUPID idea.

 

For 1 it's kinda sad you want to be able to smoke and use drugs in a game, whats the point in it? It's not like you gain superpowers from it..

 

And 2nd, I really think it would influence people, which is bad. I don't think the violence in GTA effects anyone, but I'm sure druguse will. Whatever way you look at it, drugs destroy a lot of lifes.

Why would violence not influence people but drugs would? There is 0 logic to that statement. You know what els ruins lives, drunk driving, but that was a feature in the last game. And to all the people saying that the media will use this to against the game, the media is going to talk sh*t about this game regardless, it wouldn't make a bit of difference. The ignorance of some people is amazing to me, the anti drug propaganda is so strong in this country that people find it ok to blow a pedestrians brains out with a shotgun, but they think it's moraly irresponsible to use drugs in a game.

Because of the common values amongst people. Theres a lot of people who see absolutely nothing wrong in doing weed or nothing really wrong in doing harder drugs, but in case of violence, everyone knows that’s just wrong unless youre a psycho. Lets try some weed or lets try shooting someone, youre not feeling the difference? I’m nothing saying you can’t try or do weed sometimes, but in my opinion it’s bad to implement drugs into a game cause people will get influenced by it when it’s shown in a “cool” way and that takes away a piece of the free will. It becomes marketing for drugs than, you can’ say the same for violence, that’s different. 0 procent logic my ass.

 

And you can’t defend your own statement by saying drunk driving was featured in the last game, that’s 0% logic statement. Hell, alcohol is a drug, wtf? And the game will be banned in more countries for sure, so it does make a difference.

 

There are a lot of easy influenced people playing GTA out there and for a lot of reasons violence won’t really influence them, but drugs just will. Hell, violence might even prevent them from using it in real life, you think if some teenagers are using coke in a game it will satisfy them like violence in game would?

Also how many games do have violence in it and how many games contain actual druguse? The violence is there already, the drugs aint, or at least not that much. For this reasons it is sad you want it in a game anyways. Jeezus

 

[SocalsZHP]

 

You guys need drugs to be high? Shame on you. The protagonists doesn't need them to be cool, that is one thing, that i like in all GTAs. They never take drugs. They don't need them to be the Real Deals! So no, i'm good with selling drugs. That's a great feature in CTW.

Party foul.

 

JK

[Fridope07]

I mostly only reply to stupid ideas and so uhm.. yeah its a STUPID idea.

 

For 1 it's kinda sad you want to be able to smoke and use drugs in a game, whats the point in it? It's not like you gain superpowers from it..

 

And 2nd, I really think it would influence people, which is bad. I don't think the violence in GTA effects anyone, but I'm sure druguse will. Whatever way you look at it, drugs destroy a lot of lifes.

Why would violence not influence people but drugs would? There is 0 logic to that statement. You know what els ruins lives, drunk driving, but that was a feature in the last game. And to all the people saying that the media will use this to against the game, the media is going to talk sh*t about this game regardless, it wouldn't make a bit of difference. The ignorance of some people is amazing to me, the anti drug propaganda is so strong in this country that people find it ok to blow a pedestrians brains out with a shotgun, but they think it's moraly irresponsible to use drugs in a game.

Because of the common values amongst people. Theres a lot of people who see absolutely nothing wrong in doing weed or nothing really wrong in doing harder drugs, but in case of violence, everyone knows that’s just wrong unless youre a psycho. Lets try some weed or lets try shooting someone, youre not feeling the difference? I’m nothing saying you can’t try or do weed sometimes, but in my opinion it’s bad to implement drugs into a game cause people will get influenced by it when it’s shown in a “cool” way and that takes away a piece of the free will. It becomes marketing for drugs than, you can’ say the same for violence, that’s different. 0 procent logic my ass.

 

And you can’t defend your own statement by saying drunk driving was featured in the last game, that’s 0% logic statement. Hell, alcohol is a drug, wtf? And the game will be banned in more countries for sure, so it does make a difference.

 

There are a lot of easy influenced people playing GTA out there and for a lot of reasons violence won’t really influence them, but drugs just will. Hell, violence might even prevent them from using it in real life, you think if some teenagers are using coke in a game it will satisfy them like violence in game would?

Also how many games do have violence in it and how many games contain actual druguse? The violence is there already, the drugs aint, or at least not that much. For this reasons it is sad you want it in a game anyways. Jeezus

If your weak minded enough that a video game would convince you to do something in real life then your to immature to play GTA. You think they should take the street racing out to? What if some teenager played and then went out and did it? Is street racing also agains "common values" what ever the f*ck that means.You think people know better than to shoot some one, they know better than to street race, they know better than to drink and drive, but they dont know better than to do coke because the protagonist does it? And I used drinking and driving as an example because it was a feature from the last game, if thats a feature then using other drugs isnt any worse.

[chuckberry04]

I mostly only reply to stupid ideas and so uhm.. yeah its a STUPID idea.

 

For 1 it's kinda sad you want to be able to smoke and use drugs in a game, whats the point in it? It's not like you gain superpowers from it..

 

And 2nd, I really think it would influence people, which is bad. I don't think the violence in GTA effects anyone, but I'm sure druguse will. Whatever way you look at it, drugs destroy a lot of lifes.

Why would violence not influence people but drugs would? There is 0 logic to that statement. You know what els ruins lives, drunk driving, but that was a feature in the last game. And to all the people saying that the media will use this to against the game, the media is going to talk sh*t about this game regardless, it wouldn't make a bit of difference. The ignorance of some people is amazing to me, the anti drug propaganda is so strong in this country that people find it ok to blow a pedestrians brains out with a shotgun, but they think it's moraly irresponsible to use drugs in a game.

Because of the common values amongst people. Theres a lot of people who see absolutely nothing wrong in doing weed or nothing really wrong in doing harder drugs, but in case of violence, everyone knows that’s just wrong unless youre a psycho. Lets try some weed or lets try shooting someone, youre not feeling the difference? I’m nothing saying you can’t try or do weed sometimes, but in my opinion it’s bad to implement drugs into a game cause people will get influenced by it when it’s shown in a “cool” way and that takes away a piece of the free will. It becomes marketing for drugs than, you can’ say the same for violence, that’s different. 0 procent logic my ass.

 

And you can’t defend your own statement by saying drunk driving was featured in the last game, that’s 0% logic statement. Hell, alcohol is a drug, wtf? And the game will be banned in more countries for sure, so it does make a difference.

 

There are a lot of easy influenced people playing GTA out there and for a lot of reasons violence won’t really influence them, but drugs just will. Hell, violence might even prevent them from using it in real life, you think if some teenagers are using coke in a game it will satisfy them like violence in game would?

Also how many games do have violence in it and how many games contain actual druguse? The violence is there already, the drugs aint, or at least not that much. For this reasons it is sad you want it in a game anyways. Jeezus

If your weak minded enough that a video game would convince you to do something in real life then your to immature to play GTA. You think they should take the street racing out to? What if some teenager played and then went out and did it? Is street racing also agains "common values" what ever the f*ck that means.You think people know better than to shoot some one, they know better than to street race, they know better than to drink and drive, but they dont know better than to do coke because the protagonist does it? And I used drinking and driving as an example because it was a feature from the last game, if thats a feature then using other drugs isnt any worse.

The problem is that a lot of people are weak minded or easily influenced by things. And how is the implementation of using other drugs not worse because drinking and driving was in the previous game? That doesn't make any sence. For 1 alcohol is a legal drug and I don't remember the drunk driving as being particularly fun, it might have showed the danger of it yh. And 2nd I don't see how drinking suddenly legitimises other drugs? Rationaly more drugs means things get worse, the fact alcohol was in the precious game has absolutely nothing to do with it.

 

Man, for streetracing and violents you have counterweights. I already explained that about violents. Obviously no-one would find it exeptable to kill someone for money or whatever or at least they know its intolerable due to yes the 'common values'. You also don't get curious to see how it is to kill someone, at least not if youre somewhat normal. For drugs thats a whooole other story. I can perfectly imagine if some kids use drugs with the protagonist and if they show it in a way like its all rainbow and sunshine, they would get curious/influenced. Steetracing, again, is something totally different. I'm not even gonna begin to explain that, cause obviously we have our differences, but for example drugs are much more accesable and organisable.

[Algonquin Assassin]

Honestly smoking weed in the Saints Row games was a novelty that wore off. Besides GTA protagonists have usually been anti drug. I mean CJ probably used to smoke joints with Ryder, but aside from that and obviously dealing drugs themselves they've never done the heavy sh*t.

 

Being able to do heroin, coke, meth etc seems a bit unnecessary. I have no problem selling the product, but for how much it would serve to the game itself and the unneeded publicity it would get on top of its already controversial image it would be a waste of time IMO.

Edited January 20, 2012 by Miamivicecity

[GTA-King]

Honestly smoking weed in the Saints Row games was a novelty that wore off. Besides GTA protagonists have usually been anti drug. I mean CJ probably used to smoke joints with Ryder, but aside from that and obviously dealing drugs themselves they've never done the heavy sh*t.

 

Being able to do heroin, coke, meth etc seems a bit unnecessary. I have no problem selling the product, but for how much it would serve to the game itself and the unneeded publicity it would get on top of its already controversial image it would be a waste of time IMO.

This.

 

I also have no problem selling it. I think that function worked pretty well in CTW. Oh, and never get high on your own supply!

[Ludzidocelowych]

Selling drugs isn't a too bad idea, but doing them virtually, and in real life, is.

[HOTMILFDAD]

 

I mostly only reply to stupid ideas and so uhm.. yeah its a STUPID idea.

 

For 1 it's kinda sad you want to be able to smoke and use drugs in a game, whats the point in it? It's not like you gain superpowers from it..

 

And 2nd, I really think it would influence people, which is bad. I don't think the violence in GTA effects anyone, but I'm sure druguse will. Whatever way you look at it, drugs destroy a lot of lifes.

Even though I'm against this idea, I have to address your points:

 

1) You've clearly never played GTA III or Vice City, as the adrenaline pill let's you punch harder, and jump farther.

2) Besides the fact that GTA is a game meant to be played by people well over the normal age of drug use (17+), stating that the violence in the games won't affect one but the drugs will?

 

Makes no sense.

 

If you want to look at this from a realistic point of view, taking your statement that drugs ruin lives is correct.

But murdering innocent people destroy peoples lives.

 

Taking a hit or snoring coke or injecting PCP into you is bad, yeah.

But killing people isn't?

 

If I were an angry congressmen, I'd be more worried about kids going around murdering innocent people rather than kids having access to a joints.

 

Regardless, even if this were to be included into the game, it's been proven by SR1 and 2 that taking and doing drugs in a game causes nothing besides frustration while trying to f*cking drive with the visuals all messed up.

To my knowledge, there hasn't been one kid who played Saints Row and just said:

 

"sh*t. I wanna try a f*cking joint and take over the city with my gang now"

 

But then again, this is a video game.

Why so serious?

Edited January 20, 2012 by Nigel xD

[dyspoid]

Selling would be an amazing feature, and make the criminal experience a whole lot more realistic, and authentic. The only thing about using them, however, is that our protagonist usually plays a strong character, not s drug fiend. In my opinion, the addition of uppers and downers could be amazing. Snorting a line of coke could give you a temporary stamina kick, and popping a downer could help you hold a sniper a little more steadily. I know these aren't the real effects of drugs, but they could be implemented with some kind of purpose.

 

I sure as heck know that I'll be baked like a mofo, as I slip that disc into my 360... mmmm.

[StonersDarkness]

ya'll should just smoke a bong and chill... lol

 

im still for the drug use/selling in game

 

it's a way to make more money, and could be perks, but if you use them you could get addicted and face further concequences... im just looking at it from a real point of view... there are STONERS everywhere? why not put it into a GTA game for once?

 

honestly, i live in a small ass area in West Virginia up around Pittsburgh Area and i couldn't tell you how many stoners/druggies live in the area, which makes me wonder about L.A.

 

just a thought?

[gta_fan28]

If R* do this, this will cause a much controversy. But it would be cool if it's like in NARC game every drugs had a different effects.

[LaBrat]

There should be heroine that you can do in the game and after you do it you can't accept any missions or drive around the city for a couple of hours because the protagonist just wants to lie down and not do anything.

[senor_huevos_benedicto]

I like that in GTA games the protagonists are usually the ones with the strong moral compasses, so I wouldn't want him to do drugs. Dealing, however, is just a means to get by.

[UberChargedCJ]

If R* do this, this will cause a much controversy. But it would be cool if it's like in NARC game every drugs had a different effects.

i hate controversy

[SocalsZHP]

The protag should be able to pop ecstasy and not want to kill anyone hehe.

[nocunoct]

Selling drugs on a video game: Sure why not? We can do it in CW

Doing them: Nope. GTA characters doesn't need drugs to be "cool".

Selling drugs in real life: An extremely bad idea.

Doing them in real life: worse.

[Xaynt]

I used to think drug use would be a good idea for this game. It is tempting and I wouldn't be surprised if they do include some drug use, though I think it still would be a mistake to portray the use of drugs in this game too much. Truckloads of manslaughter are good to go, but a gentle joint and some hot coffee could open up the gate to more difficult complications. It would make the game more colorful, or perhaps too damn gay. I'm sure it could make the game more interesting, though I'm also sure it could damage R*'s rep even as it attracts busloads of yowling hippies. A line of speed could enhance reflexes by slowing time when in danger, while at the same time making the character a neurotic mess and hurting his stamina as it wears off. PCP could make him more immune (or temporarily ignorant) to damage, but also slow him down, and weaken him as the drug wears off. Some drugs like alcohol would just only mess him up more with no benefit to the gameplay, but could make his personality funnier, even as it makes him more stupid, crazed, and sick. A psychedelic drug could completely change everything in his world, but might be just a one time event, like when a hippie or raver laces his drink. There could be a fluctuating drug trade. But GTA is an athletic game, and the main character has always been a head above all those other junkie f*cking goons. He could sell drugs, but shouldn't be a drug addict himself. It would attract negative media attention, both from lawful and chaotic people who would be influenced to go fry their brains up around GTA. Then the dumb kids would probably boast all over the media about it. I've already heard rumors about people dropping tabs of acid while playing the last San Andreas. You aren't supposed to do drugs in that game! Next thing you know, old Carjack Thompson might finally catch you up, though I still don't think the media should be overly censored. I still don't think there's anything too bad about pretending to kill people on camera or showing a virtual pipe session, though it can influence people. I've heard the rare story about a guy who thought he could get away with jacking a car after playing too much GTA. I believe it is mostly innocent to play video games, though maybe not a virtue. The media is full of demonic qualities, but it can be a healthy way to have fun in computer land sometimes. I'll probably forgive them. GTA's too esteemed and the character too strong and vain to make him too nice about drugs. It's too much a potential lightning rod for negative media attention at the same time already. Natural highs are better for both real life and an adventurously athletic game like GTA. Drugs change the brain in ways that can be adversive to people and society, and it's not good to show them in a way that influences everybody to like them, though I know the rebellious feeling that anti-drug laws are too unjust. I think Saint's Row is better to field any drug use like they have, or better yet, good old NARC could come out with a new and improved sequel. The last version was just some clunky old-gen game, and I would actually feel better about a new NARC making a more advanced version about the highs and lows of life on drugs someday, instead of GTA. Or are they too doped out to compete anymore? Drugs will probably be in some games over time, and GTA could be successful to go in that direction more, though I'm not hardly on the edge of my carseat about it anymore. Drugs are messy and somewhat demonic, though it is a game about the dark underbelly of society.

[GTA-King]

Nice wall of text there. Learn to indent.

[JoanCrawford]

No. I don't agree with any type of drugs, and GTA shouldn't either.

[Djdevin10]

No. I don't agree with any type of drugs, and GTA shouldn't either.

what about drugs that saves peoples lives?

 

I would love this feature in the game

[Captain VXR]

We can get drunk in IV, so why not get smoke a spliff, swallow tabs, pop pills and snort coke?

I think it'd be pretty neat if when you bump into someone smoking and then pick up the cigarette, the character should smoke it if they're just stood around, and that there should be a 1 in 10 chance that tobacco isn't the only thing in it

Edit - you should also be able to casually buy drinks from shops, pubs, bars and clubs and get drunk on them

Edit 2 - a medical weed card should be obtainable at some point in the game, and street deals should be available at the right time and place, as well as in game friends who can get you stuff. Some street deals should be undercover cop stings and some dealers should try to mug you, and it'd be nice to purchase a farm safehouse where 'crops' can be grown

Selling drugs should be a career e.g.

sell small amounts to friends --> sell on the street --> traffick large amounts for gangs --> set up a large grow op --> become a drug lord

Edited January 21, 2012 by Captain VXR