Robinski Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 @caio3771You seem young, I doubt you'll keep that opinion your entire life. Besides, you're not supposed to refer to politicians as pigs, that's what you're supposed to call cops. If anything, realising that crime isn't something that exists in society just because some people are inherently bad/lazy is a pretty mature opinion. Lots of crime (particularly property crimes like theft and robbery) isn't done out of stuff a desire to prove how hard you are or because of an emotional reaction, like most crime against the person,but out of necessity. The real problem is that once you have a society that functions in a way that crime is nonexistent you're pretty much in a utopia (or an ultimate fascist police state, I suppose), and we all know how realistic that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxTint Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 EVERYONE who robs here is a pussy because they all have to use weapons. Bear mace, batons, brass knuckles, switchblades, the occasional beretta Well, I'd say, the fact that they rob people for money because they can't get a job is pretty "pussy" to me. It's not hard to get a job that pays decent. Maybe they should have tried at school. I was at a bus station in 2007 in August and was on my way home from University. It was about 10pm as I stayed at Uni to do some overnight studying for upcoming exams. The station was unusually quiet and my bus wasn't coming for another 10 minutes. I was walking to the shelter as it was cold and windy, and someone comes up behind me and rugby tackles me to the ground - basically a shoulder bump, and a hard one. I was winded and he started kicking me a few times in the gut. I felt like absolute sh*t and was lying there clutching my ribs as they were killing me. I got up slowly and he was rummaging through my bag and found my phone and iPod and threw the bag on top of me for some reason. He was walking off and a heavyset guy shouts "oi!" at the guy and I look up and I see him holding the mugger up to a pillar and punching him in the stomach. He gave me my iPod and phone back after and took me to the hospital. The guy broke about 5 of my ribs and I needed to wear a brace for about 2 months. It's amazing how thoughtless people can be, as well as how kind (like the guy who helped me). He could have easily just watch what happened and did nothing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
na89340qv0n34b09q340 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 @rob I understand why someone might break into a house and steal your stuff, but people who go into that kind of work sometimes think of it as an easy way out, or do actually start to get a rush out of it. I grew up around bike thieves who would steal bikes because they thought it was fun, I'm also pretty sure at least some of them still do it. Then you have to think about the victim, sure the victim could learn about home security and buy extra locks, but what does it do to them psychologically? I think when you begin to consider messing up other people's lives to earn your daily bread you're just as bad as those corrupt politicians he was talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caio3771 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 @zoo3891: I'm just saying that, if people rob and commit crimes, most of the times is because they don't have conditions to buy that stuff, or they didn't have a good education and that happens due of the corrupt government that don't provide them a good education neither good values. They (government) just care about our money and our votes, they don't care about the people. Think, if people learned good things in the school and with the society, don't you think they will quit acting like that? It's all about our society, if we see people doing good thing, we'll repeat that. That's why many good people become bad, due of the society that doesn't teach them the correct things to do. I'm telling this because I had friends who were good people,but they become thugs because they didn't have a good influence to keep good persons. What i mean is, if they grew up in a good society, they could be good persons, but our society is full of thugs and bad persons, and i'ts the fault of the govern that doesn't try to educate the people properly, then they will be bad guys. The govern don't try to educate people because if they got educated and intelligent, they (we) will see the whole truth. In this case, the truth is that they just care about when they our votes and they steal the money of the people The government are our enemies, not allies, and if you think they are allies, you're just doing what they want. they make people fight with people to forget about the reality (the reality is that they get our money and we are just their robots for them we just do what they want), then they keep with the power and we just get nothing. I hate the government of all countries, the society is what it is because their attitudes. I keep saying, they are enemies, not allies, they don't acre bout us! Think in the things the did for us... nothing! What i mean is, people become bad because they learned with the society, and the society si like this because the government don't give the appropriate education to the people and they do this to keep us thinking how bad and cruel people are but when the reality these pigs are stealing our money and making people kill the people.; Then ''we'' become the bad people and the fault is still ours. And if I am young or not that's not a reason to me don't know about anything. There are much kids who are very intelligent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
na89340qv0n34b09q340 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) I agree with a lot of what you're saying, America's school system most definitely screws over a lot of kids, and a lot of those kids who are brought up thinking society sucks because it doesn't give them a chance do grow up to sh*tty lives. Personally I think the parents should take some responsibility in getting their kids interested in something, or teaching their kids to learn on their own and think for themselves, one big state-wide curriculum created by people who think they know about early education isn't cutting it for everyone, and parents know their kids best. If we had brighter, more enthusiastic kids there would be a lot less bullying, dropping out, and stupidity in schools, and maybe we'd see crime rates plummet. And I apologize for basing your opinion on your age, it was wrong, and I'll try to avoid doing that henceforth. @FranticFatality Who said it was? I was correcting his slang. Edited September 9, 2012 by zoo3891 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranticFatality Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 you're not supposed to refer to politicians as pigs, that's what you're supposed to call cops. not funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caio3771 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 I called politicians as pigs because they're the same of cops, they kill innocent people, steal our money, destroy our society and they keep arguing that it's our fault. Cops are same of politicians they do the the same {bad) things. The second part you said I agree, but sometimes the kids become bad due of the bad influences (drug dealers, etc..) Saying this due of life experiences I had. I accept your apologies, no problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zilcho Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 I called politicians as pigs because they're the same of cops, they kill innocent people, steal our money, destroy our societyand they keep arguing that it's our fault. Cops are same of politicians they do the the same {bad) things. The second part you said I agree, but sometimes the kids become bad due of the bad influences (drug dealers, etc..) Saying this due of life experiences I had. I accept your apologies, no problem Do you live in Ancient Rome, when these heinous things were common place? Or perhaps you live in the Third World? If the answer to those two questions is no, then stop being a sensationalist and blinkered buffoon. Without the police you'd be susceptible to the unadulterated destruction of crime, and without some form of governance society would be a devolved mess ala Somalia. So perhaps you should reconsider your oh so edgy anti-establishment viewpoint, because modern and accountable police and government is probably one of the main reasons you're in a position to post that drivel online today. Unless of course you do actually live in a corrupt mess of a nation, in which case I'll forgive your opinion as having some merit. U R B A N I T A S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caio3771 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) Not trying to be anything of these things you said, I just said what I think. i don't care if you agree or not, it's MY point of view. I just wanted the government to do a better job, don't you want? You may know how is difficult to live in Brazil... As you already mentioned, it's a mess of nation Brazil could be a better country to live in, if there aren't corruption and all kinda of these things... and I live in Brazil, you may know how this country is, I guess. Edited September 9, 2012 by caio3771 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zilcho Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 and I live in Brazil, you may know how this country is, I guess. I can therefore forgive some of your ideals. Nevertheless modern, accountable and well run government is essential. And police are required too, whether or not we like the idea of authority or its power. What you're complaining about is corrupt and incompetent governance and policing, which is and will always be a blight upon progression, people and their lives. U R B A N I T A S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranticFatality Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 @FranticFatality Who said it was? I was correcting his slang. you are stereotyping police officers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
na89340qv0n34b09q340 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 @FranticFatality Who said it was? I was correcting his slang. you are stereotyping police officers But I never said I think they're all pigs (I don't think cops are good, but I understand that they're a necessity in today's society), I was just reminding caio that cops are the ones that are usually called "pigs", not politicians. Politicians are worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthYENIK Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 (edited) Apparently the other night a couple of muggers in New York REALLY picked the wrong guy to try and victimize. It just so happens that they were stalking sixth degree black belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu, famed professional fighter Renzo Gracie. And he live tweeted the whole experience... http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1326114...ers-in-new-york Two guys followed him near Chelsea projects, and he was suspicious so he tweeted about it. They then approached him and asked for a cigarette, as they did that one of them reached into his pocket. He noticed that they weren't armed so he made his move knocking out the first guy with two punches. As that guy was getting up, he told the other guy he was calling the cops, and the other guy ran. At that time Renzo took a picture of the other guy trying to stand up. Renzo then got in his car and went looking for the other guy. He found him on a corner, presumably waiting for the first mugger. Renzo was able sneak up behind the second guy and apply a rear naked choke, bringing the would be mugger to unconsciousness. Renzo then socked the unconscious mugger in both eyes "racooning" him. As the mugger was waking up, Renzo then whispered in his ear, "that's what death feels like... Don't do it again." EDIT: Here is Renzo discussing the incident... Edited September 11, 2012 by darthYENIK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lock n' Stock Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Never been robbed in my life. Not even when I was in New York City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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