Shaunr Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 On my mac I have perain which allows Quicktime to open .flv videos, but there is no perain for windows. This is pretty annoying, and I like to be able to open everything in quicktime. please don't suggest separate software. I also want to be able to convert the flash video to different formats, like Apple Prores, using quicktime. I have quicktime pro. any help is appreciated. thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf68k Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 You lost for a minute when you said perain, which I had to Google to find out I think you mean Perian. Basically you want to be able to use Quicktime on Windows to open Flash? I'm afraid you might have to settle for using other program in Windows for it to work. I did find where if the Quicktime files has Flash content that you can enable that in the Preferences of Quicktime but that's available for both Windows and Mac, but you're talking about FLV files which I don't think that counts. So as much as I hate to say it; there are number of FLV players for Windows or just get VLC or KMPlayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaunr Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 You lost for a minute when you said perain, which I had to Google to find out I think you mean Perian.Basically you want to be able to use Quicktime on Windows to open Flash? I'm afraid you might have to settle for using other program in Windows for it to work. I did find where if the Quicktime files has Flash content that you can enable that in the Preferences of Quicktime but that's available for both Windows and Mac, but you're talking about FLV files which I don't think that counts. So as much as I hate to say it; there are number of FLV players for Windows or just get VLC or KMPlayer. yeah i think ill have to use VLC. hopefully i can convert alright there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 There's a Flash plug in for Firefox, Google Chrome reports one built in, which led to problems on one of my installs, but mates well for YouTube, which Google also owns. I still recommend SoThink's stand alone FREE flash video player, it beats VideoLAN in playing all Flash content, you can't expect Quicktime to handle much more then MOV files, it's a disappointing software approach in the modern age, but it helped to save Apple from going under in the 1990s! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaunr Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 There's a Flash plug in for Firefox, Google Chrome reports one built in, which led to problems on one of my installs, but mates well for YouTube, which Google also owns.I still recommend SoThink's stand alone FREE flash video player, it beats VideoLAN in playing all Flash content, you can't expect Quicktime to handle much more then MOV files, it's a disappointing software approach in the modern age, but it helped to save Apple from going under in the 1990s! i've managed to play and convert every single format I've tried on my Mac's quicktime with Perain installed. Even Quicktime alone without the plugins can support tons of formats, and not just mov. mov is only a container anyway. anyway, I just used my macs quicktime to convert the FLV. VLC's interface is too annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otter Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 ...what can one do with ProRes on a PC? Do Adobe or Sony support it now? Man, I've gone so far into the Apple tunnel that I can't see the other side anymore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaunr Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 ...what can one do with ProRes on a PC? Do Adobe or Sony support it now? Man, I've gone so far into the Apple tunnel that I can't see the other side anymore! only if you install the quicktime components Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf68k Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Ok let's take a step back. What are you doing and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaunr Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Ok let's take a step back. What are you doing and why? i got a video on youtube in flv format. i want to convert it to prores. i ended up using my mac to convert it to prores. i want to edit the video in sony vegas. EDIT: problem solved mostly. now just need to learn how to use this as well as I could use FCP. main reason I switched is because I'm going to be getting a good PC soon and won't need my little macbook for doing big edits. also it is pretty hard to manage my keyframes in FCP, and there is no rotoscoping, and I love being able to rotoscope. A lot of youtube poops are done in sony vegas as well and it seems to have a good mix of special effects tools and cutting. Edited January 17, 2012 by playaindahood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf68k Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Ok so you're just trying to convert flv to a format you can use with your video editor. There are ton of ways to do that. You can use free software to convert it, also a number of websites that you give it the Youtube URL and it'll convert it to MP4 or even AVI although I'm not 100% sure what codec the AVIs will be using but it's a fair guess it'll be H.264. As for the switch to PC from the Mac, frankly if you know what you're doing and get the job down using the Mac then just stick with that. If it's purely a matter of wanting the final project to be saved/exported out faster than what your Mac can do then I completely understand but I still keep the Mac around to do the job while you learn the ends and outs of whatever you choose to use on the PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaunr Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 Ok so you're just trying to convert flv to a format you can use with your video editor.There are ton of ways to do that. You can use free software to convert it, also a number of websites that you give it the Youtube URL and it'll convert it to MP4 or even AVI although I'm not 100% sure what codec the AVIs will be using but it's a fair guess it'll be H.264. As for the switch to PC from the Mac, frankly if you know what you're doing and get the job down using the Mac then just stick with that. If it's purely a matter of wanting the final project to be saved/exported out faster than what your Mac can do then I completely understand but I still keep the Mac around to do the job while you learn the ends and outs of whatever you choose to use on the PC. I don't trust online converters, especially if they dont give me options other than "good quality- medium quality" etc. I also wanted to go directly from flv to Prores so there is no loss is quality. another thing is that I'm using bootcamp, so i have a mac side and pc side and export times aren't going to be too different. its just i want to use Vegas because the feature look promising, and so far they are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf68k Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Well some of them like keepvid.com isn't so much converting it but more of downloading in that format which is already on Youtube. Plus which a lot of times the video that was on the uploader's computer was a much better quality than what is shown on YT. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaunr Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 Well some of them like keepvid.com isn't so much converting it but more of downloading in that format which is already on Youtube.Plus which a lot of times the video that was on the uploader's computer was a much better quality than what is shown on YT. Just saying. well the video was originally 720p, and I downloaded the 480p stream, because my computer is crappy, so already I would not get the original quality. also, youtube re-encodes every uploaded video to MP4, and only makes the FLV available to stream unless it is 720p or higher. but there is no real "original." My safari browser can find the stream in the activity, so that's probably similar to keepvid's method, but they don't let you choose between quality, or sources, like I can do manually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Crappy or not, you can wait for an HD video to buffer, save them that way, I used dialup for YEARS, and I also buffer to cache videos by clicking play and then pausing them once they start, that's just a tip to get around the issue of low res Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaunr Posted January 18, 2012 Author Share Posted January 18, 2012 Crappy or not, you can wait for an HD video to buffer, save them that way, I used dialup for YEARS, and I also buffer to cache videos by clicking play and then pausing them once they start, that's just a tip to get around the issue of low res the problem is not internet speed. its computer speed. rendering HD video takes much longer than rendering SD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I'm able to run a HD rendition of the GTA V trailer on this Dell C400 Ultra laptop model, using 512MB of SDRAM, PC133, and a Tualatin core Pentium 3, clocked at 1200Mhz, it runs with some slow issues, but that's based on size of it, when compared to buffering YouTube HD, so there are a number of factors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaunr Posted January 18, 2012 Author Share Posted January 18, 2012 I'm able to run a HD rendition of the GTA V trailer on this Dell C400 Ultra laptop model, using 512MB of SDRAM, PC133, and a Tualatin core Pentium 3, clocked at 1200Mhz, it runs with some slow issues, but that's based on size of it, when compared to buffering YouTube HD, so there are a number of factors lol. i dont think you understand what I'm talking about. what your video player does when it plays back a video file is quite different from rendering footage. i'm actually generating something. you are only playing it back. it is more hardware intensive to generate than to play back- to the point where my computer is not ideal to render HD video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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