universetwisters Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 maybe not the whole army, but why not the national guard? i mean, theyre not going to send out a sh*tload of troops just to catch one man either that or give the swat some kind of apc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legendary912 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K^2 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I don't know the name of those vehicles that fire missiles into the air. But that's what I meant. Probably won't happen but just dreaming. All out war in Los Santos! Mobile SAM sites. A bit overkill, really. You don't move SAM sites through hostile territory without armor and infantry support. You don't move these without CAS. Your CAS is vulnerable until you set up your SAM sites without support of air-superiority... Unless V is the size of Just Cause 2 map and supports 200+ players in MP, there is just no way to use mobile SAM sites properly. Even in BF2/BF3 this sometimes turns into a total cluster****, despite the game being built around these concepts. Man-portable SAMs should suffice. (E.g. Stinger) They just need to be relatively accessible. Prior to filing a bug against any of my code, please consider this response to common concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrushLTx10 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Realistically.. if you are causing major damage beyond repair, killing each and every one of the cops in the enitre city ( it's possible.. just really hard ) then... then they'd have to call in the National Guard, that's the way I see it. Camp Pendelton is an Army Base in Southern California. Maybe the army won't have 500 tanks at their disposal but maybe just a small APC that has a mounted machine gun and can shoot at you and you can't shoot at them unless you get lucky and shoot right down the sights. I for one, WANT the army back in the game. If it's unrealistic like SA, so be it. If it's realistic to an extent where they're just plain old boring f*ck it, but knowing R* they're gonna knock it out of the park if they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pez555 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 i hope so, missed that in IV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllnessGTA Posted January 15, 2012 Author Share Posted January 15, 2012 Idiot What a mature argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn 7 five 11 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Damn, people. Stop talking sh*t about realism and all that.Grand theft Auto is not about realism, only in its last versions. I don't even care, dude. Sure, it's a bit unrealistic, but it's still fun. I hope I'm not sounding like I am a fan of realism. I'm just saying that if the game is trying to be realistic like IV, then the military should not be in the game. It'll be weird, and it will stand out. If it is much less realistic, then they should add them. I just hope they don't make them as annoying. I still fail to see how GTA IV was more "realistic". Anyway, there was a tank in GTA IV TBOGT, it wasn't a full size tank, but the APC had a turret and could do some serious damage, and to the the person who was talking about explosion on impact, well that didn't happen with the APC so it won't happen with any tanks introduced in V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capricornus Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Im not afraid of the military in GTA so I wouldn't mind if it were to return. It was fun messing around with them in past GTA games. Would be nice if it were in GTA V, especially considering the fact that the setting is going to be a huge as described. A military base to compliment this would be great, in addition to what K^2 said. But if it doesn't appear the it won't be a bid deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no_chance Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) i remember when i was 12 playing san andreas seeing the tank gunning for me was one of the scariest things EDIT: At 0:19 i wanna be clear is that not jet carrier? Edited January 15, 2012 by no_chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllnessGTA Posted January 15, 2012 Author Share Posted January 15, 2012 Damn, people. Stop talking sh*t about realism and all that.Grand theft Auto is not about realism, only in its last versions. I don't even care, dude. Sure, it's a bit unrealistic, but it's still fun. I hope I'm not sounding like I am a fan of realism. I'm just saying that if the game is trying to be realistic like IV, then the military should not be in the game. It'll be weird, and it will stand out. If it is much less realistic, then they should add them. I just hope they don't make them as annoying. I still fail to see how GTA IV was more "realistic". You gotta be kidding me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gtaghost22 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I hope they include it.. It was fun to start chaos so they could chase you and you try to avoid them.. in GTA III Era games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staten Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Damn, people. Stop talking sh*t about realism and all that.Grand theft Auto is not about realism, only in its last versions. I don't even care, dude. Sure, it's a bit unrealistic, but it's still fun. I hope I'm not sounding like I am a fan of realism. I'm just saying that if the game is trying to be realistic like IV, then the military should not be in the game. It'll be weird, and it will stand out. If it is much less realistic, then they should add them. I just hope they don't make them as annoying. I still fail to see how GTA IV was more "realistic". You gotta be kidding me.... He's got a point. If the goal is realism, then it'd be much more realistic for the Police and FIB to keep searching for you even after they haven't spotted you for a few minutes (or, in earlier games, if you collected floating stars). They would have roadblocks all over the city and be searching for you even if you went home and had a nap. The fact that the army chased you was, if anything, were one of the OTT parts of the earlier game. In practice though, they were basically SWAT with a different skin, more powerful weapons, more numbers but with trucks easier to evade. Apart from the Rhino, they didn't add much more to the challenge. So I have no preference either way on them appearing in V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceRay Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Damn, people. Stop talking sh*t about realism and all that.Grand theft Auto is not about realism, only in its last versions. I don't even care, dude. Sure, it's a bit unrealistic, but it's still fun. I hope I'm not sounding like I am a fan of realism. I'm just saying that if the game is trying to be realistic like IV, then the military should not be in the game. It'll be weird, and it will stand out. If it is much less realistic, then they should add them. I just hope they don't make them as annoying. I still fail to see how GTA IV was more "realistic". You gotta be kidding me.... He's got a point. If the goal is realism, then it'd be much more realistic for the Police and FIB to keep searching for you even after they haven't spotted you for a few minutes (or, in earlier games, if you collected floating stars). They would have roadblocks all over the city and be searching for you even if you went home and had a nap. The fact that the army chased you was, if anything, were one of the OTT parts of the earlier game. In practice though, they were basically SWAT with a different skin, more powerful weapons, more numbers but with trucks easier to evade. Apart from the Rhino, they didn't add much more to the challenge. So I have no preference either way on them appearing in V. Furthermore, there are no military bases in New York, so why should they be in Liberty City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccrogers15 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 The army appearing would be realistic. With all the things you can do on GTA, blowing up cars and such, if the cops and fbi cant take you down, they need to call in for help from someone who "can". I remember in GTA III when the army soilders had an assault rifle that would take you out in less than a second, even with full health and armor. I remember those. My best memory is the marked man mission. Where you help ray get to the airport, but if you cross the bridge they have those guns and you die within seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyphoonJames Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 umad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stranger44 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I sure hope they do put the army in V. It actually makes sense to send the military after a guy who has somehow managed to stand his ground against the police, SWAT/Special Forces and the FBI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Pink Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Damn, people. Stop talking sh*t about realism and all that.Grand theft Auto is not about realism, only in its last versions. I don't even care, dude. Sure, it's a bit unrealistic, but it's still fun. I hope I'm not sounding like I am a fan of realism. I'm just saying that if the game is trying to be realistic like IV, then the military should not be in the game. It'll be weird, and it will stand out. If it is much less realistic, then they should add them. I just hope they don't make them as annoying. It's a game and no. If I'm killing and killing dozens and scores of cops I want the f*cking nation to go in to a panic and wonder why the f*ck they cant kill this one motherf*cking killing machine. If someone on a hardcore rampage in GTA game existed in real life then the army wouldn't not just arrive but would be needed. Now all you uber-realism heads need to understand, if I was in a corner of a building killing scores of SWAT guys and slaughtering innocent people whilst causing 1000's of dollars worth of damage to property, why wouldn't they just blow up the building I'm in? Oh wait, the environment is not destructible. It's sooo unrealistic. It's a game. If it's done well it can believable in the world of GTA. The real worl = the real world. GTA = A interpretation of the real world with artistic licence to entertain. ＲＵＢＢΣＲ░Ｊ♢ＨＮＮＹ （スオッ） Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cole Phelps Gta Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 NO !!!!!! NO,NO,NO,NO,NO,NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ARMY DOESN'T EXIST IN THIS ERA. NOTHING FROM THE III ERA WILL RETURN IT'S A NEW GAME IN A NEW UNIVERSE DEAL WITH IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i'm sorry guys but it had to be said. I find it annoying yet funny the same people forbiding a cj return want the army to return how the f*ck does that even work ? The army is ALOT i repeat ALOT more unrealistic than cj being in the game. So the army WONT be in the game deal with it era fanboys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingdongs Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I don't know the name of those vehicles that fire missiles into the air. But that's what I meant. Probably won't happen but just dreaming. All out war in Los Santos! Mobile SAM sites. A bit overkill, really. You don't move SAM sites through hostile territory without armor and infantry support. You don't move these without CAS. Your CAS is vulnerable until you set up your SAM sites without support of air-superiority... Unless V is the size of Just Cause 2 map and supports 200+ players in MP, there is just no way to use mobile SAM sites properly. Even in BF2/BF3 this sometimes turns into a total cluster****, despite the game being built around these concepts. Man-portable SAMs should suffice. (E.g. Stinger) They just need to be relatively accessible. I know it's off topic, but how realistic did you think BF2 was? BF3 doesn't really work on my laptop unfortunately but curious lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leik oh em jeez! Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) If you don't want the Army to chase you, don't get a six star wanted level. It's pretty f*cking simple. Don't try to ruin it for the rest of us because you're too pussy to fight them off. NO !!!!!! NO,NO,NO,NO,NO,NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ARMY DOESN'T EXIST IN THIS ERA. NOTHING FROM THE III ERA WILL RETURN IT'S A NEW GAME IN A NEW UNIVERSE DEAL WITH IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i'm sorry guys but it had to be said. I find it annoying yet funny the same people forbiding a cj return want the army to return how the f*ck does that even work ? The army is ALOT i repeat ALOT more unrealistic than cj being in the game. So the army WONT be in the game deal with it era fanboys Are you serious? CJ is a specific person. The Army is a group, like the LCPD. They return, yet you don't mention them... Edited January 16, 2012 by leik oh em jeez! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Beach Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 How is the army appearing when youve killed 100+ police officers and blowing sh*t up with a RPG unrealistic? It wasn't very realistic that in IV all that happened was that the Swat team came around. Hell, 4 stars wasn't much different than 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Pink Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) It's highly unrealistic the things that people do in GTA games. Why deny something that exists? If you go around killing people like maniac, then something reletively equal to counter to that should reflect in the game - ie. The Army. If you are going to be the most insane mass murderer in a game, killing innocents, robbing fighter jets and robbing cars all in one chase then it's only right, something of equal proportion is there to counter balance the action. Rockstar always do a great job of presenting a real-world scenario with entertaining action. The army is like when you want to go to 11. It's quite hard to last long with the army too. Just cops and SWAT gets boring after a while. Its a nice achievement when you get 6 stars and you hold off for a while. Oh and if I do go on a killing spree, say for 3 days in the game, non-stop they wouldn't think of having someone from the army come take a look? It's boring to know that there'll be less authorities after you. Edited January 16, 2012 by ThePinkFloydSound ＲＵＢＢΣＲ░Ｊ♢ＨＮＮＹ （スオッ） Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccrogers15 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 NO !!!!!! NO,NO,NO,NO,NO,NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ARMY DOESN'T EXIST IN THIS ERA. NOTHING FROM THE III ERA WILL RETURN IT'S A NEW GAME IN A NEW UNIVERSE DEAL WITH IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i'm sorry guys but it had to be said. I find it annoying yet funny the same people forbiding a cj return want the army to return how the f*ck does that even work ? The army is ALOT i repeat ALOT more unrealistic than cj being in the game. So the army WONT be in the game deal with it era fanboys Theres an army jet and a truck that looks like the baracks OL in the gta5 trailer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllnessGTA Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 If you don't want the Army to chase you, don't get a six star wanted level. It's pretty f*cking simple. Don't try to ruin it for the rest of us because you're too pussy to fight them off. Woah, calm down, bro. I'm not trying to ruin it. Stop bitching. I'm just expressing my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Pink Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Tell me you uber-realism heads, wont go on rampages and steal multiple cars and vehicles in one rampage and kill innocent pedestrians because that's unrealistic. Yes, it has happened but it's unrealistic. See the sense I made there. Maybe more uncommon than unrealistic. But, if I'm causing all that destruction which is uncommon in Souther California, what is it to you guys if the army show up?? ＲＵＢＢΣＲ░Ｊ♢ＨＮＮＹ （スオッ） Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoanCrawford Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 If you don't want the Army to chase you, don't get a six star wanted level. It's pretty f*cking simple. Don't try to ruin it for the rest of us because you're too pussy to fight them off. Woah, calm down, bro. I'm not trying to ruin it. Stop bitching. I'm just expressing my opinion. Yes, he sounds like an ignorant child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllnessGTA Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 How is the army appearing when youve killed 100+ police officers and blowing sh*t up with a RPG unrealistic? It wasn't very realistic that in IV all that happened was that the Swat team came around. Hell, 4 stars wasn't much different than 6. Uh, I hated the wanted system in IV as well though. I wanted SWAT tanks and osprey helicopters at 6 stars, not the same crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Pink Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) It's also a sort of proud moment in GTA when you say to yourself, I'm so badass, I killed about 140 people and I'm so f*cked up that they got the army after me. Yeah, it might not happen in everyday life but you are the exception because you are crazy. Also, it takes skill to do that. It's not like the army show up for a couple of street murders. You have to kill cops. And when you kill cops you have to kill SWAT. And when you kill Swat, then the Feds come and if you manage to kill enough Feds, the army come. Edited January 16, 2012 by ThePinkFloydSound ＲＵＢＢΣＲ░Ｊ♢ＨＮＮＹ （スオッ） Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllnessGTA Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 Damn, people. Stop talking sh*t about realism and all that.Grand theft Auto is not about realism, only in its last versions. I don't even care, dude. Sure, it's a bit unrealistic, but it's still fun. I hope I'm not sounding like I am a fan of realism. I'm just saying that if the game is trying to be realistic like IV, then the military should not be in the game. It'll be weird, and it will stand out. If it is much less realistic, then they should add them. I just hope they don't make them as annoying. It's a game and no. If I'm killing and killing dozens and scores of cops I want the f*cking nation to go in to a panic and wonder why the f*ck they cant kill this one motherf*cking killing machine. If someone on a hardcore rampage in GTA game existed in real life then the army wouldn't not just arrive but would be needed. Now all you uber-realism heads need to understand, if I was in a corner of a building killing scores of SWAT guys and slaughtering innocent people whilst causing 1000's of dollars worth of damage to property, why wouldn't they just blow up the building I'm in? Oh wait, the environment is not destructible. It's sooo unrealistic. It's a game. If it's done well it can believable in the world of GTA. The real worl = the real world. GTA = A interpretation of the real world with artistic licence to entertain. Dude, I'm not a uber realism head. My fav GTA game is SA, because of how wacky it is. I will find it a bit strange if tanks and helicopters would chase after one guy in a realistic setting like this. SWAT tanks (and maybe one Rhino tank) and SWAT ospreys are cool, but the whole army is a bit weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DX2069 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 i hope that they do put the army in there i thought it was awesome who cares about realism look what it did to IV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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