danjodan Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Hubpages.comSun, 15 May 2011 17:05 CDT Canadian researchers find a simple cure for cancer, but major pharmaceutical companies are not interested. Researchers at the University of Alberta, in Edmonton, Canada have cured cancer last week, yet there is a little ripple in the news or in TV. It is a simple technique using very basic drug. The method employs dichloroacetate, which is currently used to treat metabolic disorders. So, there is no concern of side effects or about their long term effects. This drug doesn't require a patent, so anyone can employ it widely and cheaply compared to the costly cancer drugs produced by major pharmaceutical companies. Canadian scientists tested this dichloroacetate (DCA) on human's cells; it killed lung, breast and brain cancer cells and left the healthy cells alone. It was tested on Rats inflicted with severe tumors; their cells shrank when they were fed with water supplemented with DCA. The drug is widely available and the technique is easy to use, why the major drug companies are not involved? Or the Media interested in this find? In human bodies there is a natural cancer fighting human cell, the mitochondria, but they need to be triggered to be effective. Scientists used to think that these mitochondria cells were damaged and thus ineffective against cancer. So they used to focus on glycolysis, which is less effective in curing cancer and more wasteful. The drug manufacturers focused on this glycolysis method to fight cancer. This DCA on the other hand doesn't rely on glycolysis instead on mitochondria; it triggers the mitochondria which in turn fights the cancer cells. The side effect of this is it also reactivates a process called apoptosis. You see, mitochondria contain an all-too-important self-destruct button that can't be pressed in cancer cells. Without it, tumors grow larger as cells refuse to be extinguished. Fully functioning mitochondria, thanks to DCA, can once again die. With glycolysis turned off, the body produces less lactic acid, so the bad tissue around cancer cells doesn't break down and seed new tumors. Pharmaceutical companies are not investing in this research because DCA method cannot be patented, without a patent they can't make money, like they are doing now with their AIDS Patent. Since the pharmaceutical companies won't develop this, the article says other independent laboratories should start producing this drug and do more research to confirm all the above findings and produce drugs. All the groundwork can be done in collaboration with the Universities, who will be glad to assist in such research and can develop an effective drug for curing cancer. You can access the original research for this cancer here. This article wants to raise awareness for this study, hope some independent companies and small startup will pick up this idea and produce these drugs, because the big companies won't touch it for a long time. http://www.sott.net/articles/show/22858 ... kes-notice I know this needs a lot of research. And if the cure indeed materialize, this could help billions of people suffering from cancer and the side effects of chemotheraphy. There's still hope for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA_stu Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I know a limited amount about the actual science involved, but I'm pretty sure if it was genuine then the drug companies would be all over it regardless of whether or not it was pantentable, well depending on the costs involved in mass production of it of course. Regardless, it's still a bit sensationalist to say they've "cured cancer" and using that kind of language does make you wonder about the people involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToniForelli Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Now i'm interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exxon Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 How the f*ck can people not be interested in a medicine for cancer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddsock Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 This article is likely a hoax. No institutes or doctors are mentioned with the exception of the University of Alberta. It also incorrectly describes mitochondria as a cell on its own instead of an organelle. Looking up some responses from biologists, they've mentioned that DCA is mildly carcinogenic and that while we have found genetic cures for cancer in mice, we haven't in humans because we're much different. If this were real, the media would be screaming about it, but the only place I can find this article is on small, relatively unknown websites. I'm calling this fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyJones Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Cancer probably is curable, but think about how many millions will be lost to medications made to control them. That's how f*cked up the world is. It's all about money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesboyjr Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I wouldn't trust that SOTT.net as far as I could throw it. Just looks like one of the those "we're the only one's who'll tell you the truth about the government/evil corporations/the pharmaceutical industry/9/11/UFOs that the maaaaan doesn't want you to know" websites. I once knew a guy who said that it had been proven that apricot seeds cure cancer, and the eeeevil pharmaceutical industry rigged the system against it. Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinski Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I wouldn't trust that SOTT.net as far as I could throw it. Just looks like one of the those "we're the only one's who'll tell you the truth about the government/evil corporations/the pharmaceutical industry/9/11/UFOs that the maaaaan doesn't want you to know" websites. I once knew a guy who said that it had been proven that apricot seeds cure cancer, and the eeeevil pharmaceutical industry rigged the system against it. Nope. It's just another wackjob conspiracy theory. "Big Pharma has actually cured cancer but keeps the cure to themselves to make money", just like the one about energy giants really knowing about clean, reliable and efficient energy sources but keeping it to themselves until they've sold all their oil. Ill though out and completely bogus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icarus Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I'm at the University of Alberta and this is the first I'm hearing of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil weasel Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) why not just GOOGLE? 'Treatment' is not 'Cure'. 'Believe' is not 'we're sure'. UNIVERSITY OF ALBERTA official Web Site rather than 'fly-by-night' sensationist websites? Reference: http://www.dca.med.ualberta.ca/Home/index.cfm Edited January 13, 2012 by lil weasel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sivispacem Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 This is of the same ilk as the "water into fuel" pills, and "infinite energy" perpetual motion machines. Utter horse-sh*t. AMD Ryzen 5900X (4.65GHz All-Core PBO2) | Gigabye X570S Pro | 32GB G-Skill Trident Z RGB 3600MHz CL16 EK-Quantum Reflection D5 | XSPC D5 PWM | TechN/Heatkiller Blocks | HardwareLabs GTS & GTX 360 Radiators Corsair AX750 | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic XL | EVGA GeForce RTX2080 XC @2055MHz | Sabrant Rocket Plus 1TB Sabrant Rocket 2TB | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB | 2x ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q | Q Acoustics 2010i | Sabaj A4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 The article is down now lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saggy Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I don't think it has anything to do with patents as much as it has to do with the fact that doctors and pharmaceutical companies make more money off sick patients than they make off healthy patients. Now I'm not suggesting some kind of conspiracy, but they would they really spend millions to research a "cure" when people are already handing them money hand over fist for "treatment"? I don't think any pharmaceutical company meeting in a darkly lit room with cigar smoke ever took place... No one ever said, "The suckers are worth more paying out for the rest of their lives than getting better." But you know it has occurred to at least a few of them... QUOTE (K^2) ...not only is it legal for you to go around with a concealed penis, it requires absolutely no registration! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMaster Smith Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Curable treatments for cancer have been around for a while.. Ozone machines, they literally kill off cancer along with any bad bacteria or viruses. I've known a good 3-4 people who've had cancer and after doing ozone treatment and completely changing their diet the cancer went away. sh*t you can just google 'ozone machine and cancer' and could probably find tons of stories on it. Funny thing is that it's illegal here in the states.. Wonder f*ckin' why.. No hoax, no conspiracy, one of the people I've known for my entire life had just gotten cancer about a year or two ago. Was undergoing chemo which was only making him worse then he started ozonating and the cancer just started instantly dying off.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saggy Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Curable treatments for cancer have been around for a while.. Ozone machines, they literally kill off cancer along with any bad bacteria or viruses. I've known a good 3-4 people who've had cancer and after doing ozone treatment and completely changing their diet the cancer went away. sh*t you can just google 'ozone machine and cancer' and could probably find tons of stories on it. Funny thing is that it's illegal here in the states.. Wonder f*ckin' why.. No hoax, no conspiracy, one of the people I've known for my entire life had just gotten cancer about a year or two ago. Was undergoing chemo which was only making him worse then he started ozonating and the cancer just started instantly dying off.. Ozone is often used to hide the odor from indoor marijuana cultivation, so perhaps that is why it is now illegal. QUOTE (K^2) ...not only is it legal for you to go around with a concealed penis, it requires absolutely no registration! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA_stu Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Plus that's also just treatment, not technically a cure. But you can rest assured those evil kitten punchers would definitely ban a cure if it was found. They enjoy nothing more than the suffering of others, and death they enjoy that too. Not quite as much as pure suffering or punching innocent kittens in the face, but they do still enjoy it. They're just so f*cking evil. I heard they're planning on turning the entire Hawaiian archipelago into a giant evil lava lair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireman Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 They're hiding the solution to world peace and the answer to ending all hunger... FOR PROFIT I TELL YOU! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMaster Smith Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Plus that's also just treatment, not technically a cure. But you can rest assured those evil kitten punchers would definitely ban a cure if it was found. They enjoy nothing more than the suffering of others, and death they enjoy that too. Not quite as much as pure suffering or punching innocent kittens in the face, but they do still enjoy it. They're just so f*cking evil. I heard they're planning on turning the entire Hawaiian archipelago into a giant evil lava lair. Well it's not guaranteed to cure it because if you catch it after it's too late there's just not much it can do. If you catch it when it's still relatively small and hasn't spread much then yeah, it's basically a full on cure.. like completely kills it. Diet affects it alot as well though too. Big pharma can't make money off something that cures anything, they need a way to keep raking in money so they just come up with suppressants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saggy Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Plus that's also just treatment, not technically a cure. But you can rest assured those evil kitten punchers would definitely ban a cure if it was found. They enjoy nothing more than the suffering of others, and death they enjoy that too. Not quite as much as pure suffering or punching innocent kittens in the face, but they do still enjoy it. They're just so f*cking evil. I heard they're planning on turning the entire Hawaiian archipelago into a giant evil lava lair. You know, don't take this the wrong way... But spending too much time convincing yourself everyone is good and honest is just as bad as convincing yourself everyone is evil and corrupt. Grey areas, evil of men, when good men do nothing evil prevails, etc. Just saying that you gotta know that there is a little bit of truth to the idea of big companies wanting to maintain status quo or increase revenue. To act like they're just in it to save lives and make people better is just a little bit too optimistic. It's a necessary thing though because if they weren't making money, there wouldn't be an incentive to come up with any treatment at all. So there's a bit of a mutual understanding here... Basically, without the monetary incentive, there's really not going to be a lot of people busting their butt to cure anything, but on the other hand when chemotherapy and current treatments are becoming more and more "successful" while at the same time lining their pockets, that also reduces incentive to come up with any better treatments. Basically, they're not in any rush to fix what isn't broken. QUOTE (K^2) ...not only is it legal for you to go around with a concealed penis, it requires absolutely no registration! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sivispacem Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Ozone is often used to hide the odor from indoor marijuana cultivation, so perhaps that is why it is now illegal. Its also potentially very harmful, causing serious, permanent and even fatal damage to the lungs and respirotory system. AMD Ryzen 5900X (4.65GHz All-Core PBO2) | Gigabye X570S Pro | 32GB G-Skill Trident Z RGB 3600MHz CL16 EK-Quantum Reflection D5 | XSPC D5 PWM | TechN/Heatkiller Blocks | HardwareLabs GTS & GTX 360 Radiators Corsair AX750 | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic XL | EVGA GeForce RTX2080 XC @2055MHz | Sabrant Rocket Plus 1TB Sabrant Rocket 2TB | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB | 2x ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q | Q Acoustics 2010i | Sabaj A4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA_stu Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Here buddy, come sit on uncle SagaciousKJB's knee and I'll tell you all about the world. blah blah blah blah *hands stu a lollypop then ruffles hair* haha ok sport, now go play outside with your friends. Thanks mista! Gee boy I thought everybody was my friend, and that all the grown ups in the big wide world were all really nice! Golly it sure is nice to have people like you to tell me about the big baddies, I'd just sit here on my gullible butt otherwise. Yh funny how patronising someone can make them feel, what's that word... oh yh patronised. Maybe wasn't your intention, but you sure did achieve it in some style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Light Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 One possible reason they're not interested is because they would rather enjoy making money off their expensive drugs that don't work. Greedy assholes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil weasel Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Are you all reading the sensationilistic one, or the Real story: http://www.dca.med.ualberta.ca/Home/index.cfm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Light Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Are you all reading the sensationilistic one, or the Real story: http://www.dca.med.ualberta.ca/Home/index.cfm On the bottom it said 'Last Modified May, 2010', so it's been known for two years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMaster Smith Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Ozone is often used to hide the odor from indoor marijuana cultivation, so perhaps that is why it is now illegal. Its also potentially very harmful, causing serious, permanent and even fatal damage to the lungs and respirotory system. Yeah, that's why you're not supposed to sit there and inhale ozone.. same with carbon dioxide or anything else that doesn't belong in your lungs lol You put the hose from the ozone machine into a glass of water and it adds an extra unstable oxygen atom to create ozone, you drink the water and the unstable atom detaches and turns into pure oxygen and goes into your blood stream and to all your cells and replenishes any low amounts of oxygen. It can kill nearly any bad bacterial infection or virus, it's seriously amazing to how well it works, I've used it several times throughout my life and it works miracles.. doesn't make sense why they'd make it illegal though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morsaw Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 There must be more to this story, I mean one does not simply refuse curing cancer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDP992 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I know a limited amount about the actual science involved, but I'm pretty sure if it was genuine then the drug companies would be all over it regardless of whether or not it was pantentable, well depending on the costs involved in mass production of it of course. Regardless, it's still a bit sensationalist to say they've "cured cancer" and using that kind of language does make you wonder about the people involved. No drug companies would not be all over it, think about all the money coming in from cancer patients who pay for all the medications they're on. If there was a simple cure pharmaceuticals would lose a sh*t load of money. Business is business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil weasel Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 If it did work the Drug companies would be "all over it" if not profit from it then to supress it so they can continue with proven methods of profit. Always we should remember the Floride and Saulk ruination of the health care industries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA_stu Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I know a limited amount about the actual science involved, but I'm pretty sure if it was genuine then the drug companies would be all over it regardless of whether or not it was pantentable, well depending on the costs involved in mass production of it of course. Regardless, it's still a bit sensationalist to say they've "cured cancer" and using that kind of language does make you wonder about the people involved. No drug companies would not be all over it, think about all the money coming in from cancer patients who pay for all the medications they're on. If there was a simple cure pharmaceuticals would lose a sh*t load of money. Business is business. You're thinking of a purely privatised pharmaceutical/medical industry industry like the US. Why would countries which provide the majority of their healthcare via a public health care system want to "prolong the treatment"? It costs them money, they don't make money from it. So it would benefit them to find a cure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireguy109 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeA84udy7hY http://www.thenhf.com/article.php?id=633 http://www.tweaktown.com/news/19694/has_ca...much/index.html http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn1097...st-cancers.html Be sure to read the dates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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