Lethal Vaccine Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 I got it too, but I made it DP simply with a Mission Scripted Passenger and PASSED the Mission while doing it. I DP'ed all of them on Mobile but 4 of them (BP Barracks OL, EC Cheetah, EC Stinger, and EC Infernus) and every time I did it, I passed. Â All you would have to do is take it to the Garage, then jack a random Vehicle and get that person in that random Vehicle then finish the Mission. No need to fail... Â Also fnxrak has found a Method of using the Thieves who steal your Vehicles. You can do this at any stage of the game, even after 100% when all Missions are passed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Vaccine Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 I DP'ed all of them on Mobile but 4 of them (BP Barracks OL, EC Cheetah, EC Stinger, and EC Infernus) Â Scratch that...Thanks to fnxrak's Car Jacker Method to making DP Vehicles in free roam to that of using the Taxi Glitch in free roam, at any stage of the game, I was able to make the 3 EC Sports Cars DP on my Mobile Save. Unfortunately, since the Barracks OL is an Emergency Vehicle, Thieves don't go for these, so I can't ever have it DP unless I started over. Â But yeah, now my Mobile Save is identical to my PS2 Save, except my PS2 Save has 78 Mission Attempts, unlike 79 on Mobile and on PS2 the Barracks OL is BP/DP and on Mobile, only BP. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsen Vitiuk Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Is it possible to get Leone's limo from "Salvatore's Called A Meeting" without a mission failure? Or is it obligatory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Vaccine Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 This one, unfortunately, is impossible to get with passing the Mission. Â I know you're looking for all the Vehicles while having 73/73 Missions Passed and 73 Attempts, but even getting the Mission Failure Vehicles, you can have 78 Attempts as the lowest. It's also quite tricky to park them all a certain way in the SI and SSV Garages to make them all fit. There's a few ways, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsen Vitiuk Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 This one, unfortunately, is impossible to get with passing the Mission. Â I know you're looking for all the Vehicles while having 73/73 Missions Passed and 73 Attempts, but even getting the Mission Failure Vehicles, you can have 78 Attempts as the lowest. It's also quite tricky to park them all a certain way in the SI and SSV Garages to make them all fit. There's a few ways, though. Speaking of which, I'd imagine Shoreside Vale garage needs a lot more management because of its size. Â Still, I wonder what happens otherwise with the Stretch... I guess it simply disappears upon completing the mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Vaccine Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Staunton and Shoreside Setup: Â Â Â Â Â These are my Saves on PS2 and Mobile. The BP/DP Patriot in Portland to get all 13. Â But yeah, either the Stretch will disappear entirely OR it will only be EC Black in the end, without the BP/DP/EP/FP properties. But more than likely, will just disappear... Arsen Vitiuk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsen Vitiuk Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 But yeah, either the Stretch will disappear entirely OR it will only be EC Black in the end, without the BP/DP/EP/FP properties. But more than likely, will just disappear... Well, it's worth checking out for me then. Even a simple black Stretch is more than no Stretch at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Vaccine Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 (edited) Yeah, check it out and report back! Would be interesting to see if it remains there  EDIT: Also in the Guide lists some DP Sentinels, these are 100% FAKE. They don't exist, but OP doesn't really update his Guide, so...  They only have an increase in Health during the Mission, which makes them ACT like they are DP, but they really aren't. Hence why when you store them, they revert back to normal Sentinels. DP property CAN be saved in the Garage, but these are fake, thus it disappears, but it's not DP disappearing, just the Health on the Vehicle is going back to normal Health of all Vehicles... Edited March 21, 2016 by MetalMilitia89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAKid667 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 It had been a while since I had last properly played through GTA III so last week I decided to start from scratch on PC and created a full 53% Starter Save and then used the Starter Save to go to 100% twice, once normally and once with 13 Unique Vehicles. Over time I have collected all 15 Unique Vehicles at some point or another through Chain Game Turns or in general gameplay but have never decided to complete a save where my main intention is to get as many vehicles as I possibly can. Â It was actually quite a nice change to have a different aim and do fairly new challenges unlike the usual 100% requirements that I have completed over and over again throughout the years, as even if I had previously collected the vehicle I would have never been in a situation in the save where I had garages so full. Overall I had 78 Mission Attempts as I obtained the Cheetah while passing the mission with the DP Mr Wongs method and utilised the Crusher Glitch to make all possible vehicles excluding the Corpse Manana DP. I had a slightly eventful experience trying to get the Bobcat on top of the vehicles in the Staunton Garage after 'Grand Theft Auto' for the first time, but when I later took the vehicles out to DP them I was a bit more successful in having to do it the second time. I also ended up pushing the Trashmaster through the ground as opposed to leaving it in memory over the next few missions which went surprisingly better than when I attempted to do it in the Chain Game years ago and it'd keep blowing up halfway into the ground, it took about 10 minutes to get it underground though, with multiple trips to Pay'N'Spray over the time to prevent it from getting too damaged. The last vehicle of the 13 I collected was the Patriot, leaving 'Marked Man' right until before 'The Exchange' so that I could use the Portland Garage Space to get the EC Sports Cars and Bobcat DP. Â Images of the Vehicles: Â Â Â Â I started a Vice City Starter Save the other day. I'm not sure whether I'll be collecting any special vehicles, but there is a possibility I will at least try now that I know the vehicle list and the fact there is more than enough Garage Space. I've never really been interested in collecting Special Vehicles and so don't really have any knowledge on the vehicles in each game, I've collected all of III's a few times before individually and other than that a few from VC and LCS but nothing more than that. Â Regarding the Stretch, even if it would remain in the garage which is what I assume you mean, how would you be able to get to it? Unless there is a way you could get in on foot or with the vehicles around you, it'd likely simply disappear if you moved away from the area if it hadn't already. It'd definitely be interesting to know though. Lethal Vaccine and Sorviknight 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Vaccine Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 (edited) I believe once he puts the Stretch in the Garage, breaking into Joey's Garage to fetch it, then returns to the blue marker in front of Joey's Garage to complete the rest of the Mission until passed, the game will probably spawn another Stretch inside of Joey's Garage, despite you taking the other one out...After Mission Passed, just go to the Portland Garage and see if the Stretch is still there or with the properties. Â Like in III with 13 Vehicles, VC has double this, with 26 (or 27 if you play on PS2...Love Fist Limo is only special on PS2). However, in VC you have 44 spots to store Vehicles with a small amount of 26 obtainable Vehicles. Most of them are very simple to get, too, except 2 of them (BP/EP/FP PCJ-600 and EP/FP Hotring Racer). Â Also a good thing about VC is that ALL Vehicles except TWO can PASS the Missions whilst obtaining them. Lowest Mission Attempts is 88 and you can have 90, whilst having everything that exists in the game. Edited March 21, 2016 by MetalMilitia89 GTAKid667 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAKid667 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Ah, I assumed he meant the garage at Salvatore's Mansion where you park it to complete the mission. I've just attempted to put the Stretch in the Portland Garage and when the door closed after I entered another vehicle, the stretch disappeared and displayed the 'Mission Failed' text: Â Arsen Vitiuk and Lethal Vaccine 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Vaccine Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Good to confirm it for Arsen Vitiuk Looks like that won't be one to obtain in his Playthrough. It's completely unobtainable without failing the Mission it would appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAKid667 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 (edited) It would appear I'm actually incorrect with what I said above, the mission doesn't actually fail when the Stretch enters the Garage or at least I just managed to progress after I placed it in (though the Garage door opened for another car and the bottom section of the Stretch was still sticking out the Garage door when closed) unlike what happened above*. However I'm now faced with a new problem...   I'm sure that normally a new Stretch would spawn though, or the current one would relocate back to the garage if you take it out? Could it be that because it is 'stored' in the garage it won't move?  * I have several copies of III installed on the PC and one has a Modification I was using earlier to get some screenshots for a Chain Game Feature. I never use mods and so use another copy of the game for anything like that (and only have the mods installed for as long as I need them) but I tested the mission on that copy of the game as I had it already open and for whatever reason the Mod must have affected the properties of the vehicle... The new image above was taken from an unmodded clean Steam Version of the game with a save file from this topic  Edited March 21, 2016 by GTAKid667 Arsen Vitiuk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Vaccine Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 About it sticking out of the Garage...During a Mission, NO Vehicle is EVER recognized by the Garage until pass or fail. This is true for ALL GTA's in the 3D Era. If you put a Vehicle in a Garage, then pass the Mission or fail it, save your game, and reload your game it WILL disappear 100% of the time. The only way it remains is if you GO to the Garage and open, close, open, and close it to register the Vehicle in there BEFORE saving/reloading. Â That Photo in Joey's Garage...This is what happened when you went into the blue marker to progress with the Mission? Or...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAKid667 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 That Photo in Joey's Garage...This is what happened when you went into the blue marker to progress with the Mission? Or...?Yes, the Photo is from Joey's Garage after I've entered the blue marker to progress. I've just checked it on Mobile and I get exactly the same result:Â Â Â Â There does not seem to be any way out of the cutscene, Claude just stands there and nothing happens. So that confirms it properly, trying to store it in the Portland Garage will not allow you to complete the rest of the mission without encountering this endless cutscene. Lethal Vaccine and Arsen Vitiuk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Vaccine Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 That's pretty interesting, actually. I was thinking another Stretch would spawn in its place, but I guess not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAKid667 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Yes, I had always assumed that another Stretch would spawn myself which is what confused me above when the cutscene above happened. It doesn't matter where the Stretch is taken to either unlike my theory above about it being in the Portland Garage Space (despite Garages not registering vehicles during missions anyway), I've just tried one more time on Mobile leaving the Stretch where it landed after I backed it out of the Garage and the same empty cutscene above showed. Â I guess there is no way to get it without failure then. 'Chaperone' also has a Black Stretch present without the other special properties, though I doubt that it is possible to obtain without a failure either considering you spawn in it at the beginning of the mission and other than when Maria is out of the car and in the Party, you are forced to use it throughout right until the point of driving into Salvatore's Garage at the end. Lethal Vaccine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick007J Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 About it sticking out of the Garage...During a Mission, NO Vehicle is EVER recognized by the Garage until pass or fail. This is true for ALL GTA's in the 3D Era. If you put a Vehicle in a Garage, then pass the Mission or fail it, save your game, and reload your game it WILL disappear 100% of the time. The only way it remains is if you GO to the Garage and open, close, open, and close it to register the Vehicle in there BEFORE saving/reloading.I will correct you again. Garage does not care if you are on mission or not. All that matters is whether car you are attempting to put into garage is tied to any mission. Every time any mission is failed or passed, game releases all vehicles stored and created by all missions, which allows them to be stored at garage. However, in most missions (with some exceptions like Bullion Run, which ties player's car to mission) if you take a random vehicle to a garage, it will be stored without any problems. Of course, for safety reasons if you are not sure if mission ties player's car, it is easier to check it in garage after mission end, and of course unique vehicle collecting is about stealing mission vehicles (so obviously they require mission to be failed or passed), but claim that any vehicle will disappear if stored during mission is false. In fact, the easiest way to check if garage recognized a vehicle is to make sure that vehicle is fixed. If it is, you don't have to to check it in garage after mission. If it isn't, you have to wait until mission end for garage to store it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Vaccine Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 (edited) Well, I meant the Special Vehicles that you take out of the Missions to put into the Garage while the Mission is on. In this case, the Stretch from Salvatore's Called a Meeting. Since it's a Special Vehicle Topic and all, the only Vehicles taken from the Missions are special and in this case, the Garage does NOT recognize them when the mission is on...We aren't talking about normal Vehicles from Traffic put into a Garage when a Mission is on. Only Special Vehicles... Â About it sticking out of the Garage...During a Mission, NO SPECIAL Vehicle is EVER recognized by the Garage until pass or fail. Â Happy now? Edited March 22, 2016 by MetalMilitia89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsen Vitiuk Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Interesting... I couldn't have even expected. I also thought there would be another Stretch generated once I'd enter the cutscene marker... Now I know it is the one and only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAGuy1995 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Interesting to know about the Stretch from Salvatore's Calling A Meeting. I remember asking Militia before about obtaining the vehicle without failing mission but too bad there is no way to get without failing. I am also interested in collecting as many vehicles as possible without failing the mission. On my last playthrough of GTA 3 which was last summer, I obtained 6 vehicles (EC Kuruma, BP Barracks OL, BP Patriot, EC Rumpo, EC Securicar, EC FBI Car). Speaking of FBI car, is the one that is driven by FBI agents considered special? I know that if you steal the FBI car that way, it's Black but if you get it from roadblocks or from Emergency Crane, it's gray. You can see difference here between the Kuruma, roadblock FBI car and special FBI car. On my next playthrough of GTA 3, I also plan to obtain the BP/EP/FP Bobcat from Evidence Dash since I skipped it last time. I am thinking to get the Cheetah from Turismo as well but it's pretty difficult to obtain without failing the mission. I know that Militia also recommended me to convert vehicles into DP as well as do a Starter Save but unfortunately, I'm not interested in doing that. The only "Starter Save" I have ever done was doing all the stuff at beginning possible only in Portland, so I had side missions (Paramedic, Taxi, Firefighter, Vigilante), 31 hidden packages, 6 rampages and 6 or 7 unique stunt jumps done. I also did the RC missions (Diablo Destruction and Mafia Massacre) and the off-road mission Patriot Playground. I'm sure this Portland Starter Save counts around 30% of the game completion. So I'm curious what do you guys think about a Portland-only Starter Save, since I don't really like glitching early in game to access other islands. In fact, I don't use glitches at all when I play through GTA 3. I just prefer a CLEAN save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Vaccine Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 (edited) Speaking of FBI car, is the one that is driven by FBI agents considered special? Â obtain the BP/EP/FP Bobcat from Evidence Dash since I skipped it last time. I am thinking to get the Cheetah from Turismo as well but it's pretty difficult to obtain without failing the mission. I know that Militia also recommended me to convert vehicles into DP as well as do a Starter Save but unfortunately, I'm not interested in doing that. Â By definition it's special, but to me it's not. It can be obtained in free roam at any time once the 5 star wanted level is unlocked with A Drop in the Ocean (I think that's when it's unlocked). Anything that can be obtained at any time after 100% (not counting the BP/EP/FP Cheetah) isn't special in my case. There is 13 spots to store Vehicles. There is 16 (14 if you don't count one of the EP/EC and EC Securicars since they are both the same, minus EP property, also the EC Stretch is useless since there is an AP/EC Stretch with the SAME EC) Special Vehicles, WITHOUT Glitch Vehicles and this FBI Car. There is more VALUABLE ones to be obtained in my eyes, so I wouldn't even give the FBI Car the time of day. However, if one wants to have 73 Attempts and no failures, it's a possibility, but I'd try and make it DP/EC FBI Car in the end, which is possible, especially on PC as fnxrak found a way to do that a couple pages back... Â Contradictions...You can't get the Cheetah unless you convert Mr. Wongs to DP. But since you are not interested in doing that, then it can't be obtained with passing the Mission. You'll never keep the Mr. Wongs in tact by the time you push the Cheetah back to the Safehouse unless you have ZERO crashes during the Race, probably, and even that is pushing it. Â If this were my Guide, it would of went something like this: Â 1.0. EC Teal Kuruma (+DP) 1.1. BP/FP Securicar 1.2. Unique Corpse Manana (+DP - Not Recommended) 1.3. BP/EP/FP Cheetah (+DP) 1.4. AP/EC Black Stretch 1.5. EC Black Stretch (+DP) 1.6. BP/FP Trashmaster with Bomb 1.7. EC Black Rumpo (+DP) 1.8. EC Cheetah (+DP) 1.9. EC Stinger (+DP) 2.0. EC2 Infernus (+DP) 2.1. BP Barracks OL (+DP) 2.2. BP/EP/FP Bobcat (+DP) 2.3. BP Patriot (+DP) 2.4. EP/EC Black Trim Securicar 2.5. EC Black Trim Securicar Edited March 29, 2016 by MetalMilitia89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Vaccine Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 If obtaining the Rhino Tank during Arms Shortage and then taken to the EV Crane so you have unlimited Rhino Tanks, do you think it would be possible during Escort Service to use the Tank and just bump the EP/EC Securicar and then push it back to SI Garage? Could be another Method of obtaining it legit, unlike the PC Exclusive Method of Replay Feature/Mission Duplication (Which doesn't even work on Console, practically, and definitely not for the EP/EC Securicar as it will crash the game doing that nonsense with Vigilante and a Police Car). I know you can force the EP/EC Securicar to the SI Garage using the BP/DP Barracks OL. I could probably do that, but I am just thinking of other ways to obtain it. I am not sure why a Flamethrower doesn't work, either. Someone said if you flame the EP/EC Securicar, the driver WON'T get out scared and run away leaving the door open. Instead he'll drive away fast... Â Thinking about doing another III Save and obtaining this EP/EC Securicar, as well as all the Glitched Vehicles and making them DP, of course (Not the Securicar since you can't, obviously). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsen Vitiuk Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Â Speaking of FBI car, is the one that is driven by FBI agents considered special? Â It can be obtained in free roam at any time once the 5 star wanted level is unlocked with A Drop in the Ocean (I think that's when it's unlocked) It's unlocked upon completion of "Last Requests". "A Drop In The Ocean" unlocks 6-star wanted level and the Military (if I'm not mistaken, otherwise it's "Grand Theft Aero") Lethal Vaccine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Vaccine Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Yeah, nevermind, using a Tank isn't all that better to get the EP/EC Securicar: Â Â Â Here is another guy obtaining it the way I will go about obtaining it. Only my BP Barracks OL will be BP/DP. As you can see, without it DP, his almost blows up as he gets close to the Safehouse... Â It's also quite funny that the Securicar basically "drives itself" into the Garage...Literally. It's actually not hard to obtain at all. All you do is activate Escort Service and drive ahead of the Securicar. Then simply take out the single Cartel Cruiser, and then quickly get into the Barracks OL and ram the Securicar in the direction of the Safehouse and it will practically drive itself the rest of the way, right into the Garage... Â I always feared it would be a lot harder, but low and behold it's easy as f*ck. However, in the end, BP/FP Securicar > EP/EC Securicar. With only 13 spots, the BP/FP Securicar is always better to obtain in the end, but this EP/EC Securicar is pretty cool to get in another Save File which I may do in the future... LieutenantCB17 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashoverride93 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Â Â Speaking of FBI car, is the one that is driven by FBI agents considered special? It can be obtained in free roam at any time once the 5 star wanted level is unlocked with A Drop in the Ocean (I think that's when it's unlocked) It's unlocked upon completion of "Last Requests". "A Drop In The Ocean" unlocks 6-star wanted level and the Military (if I'm not mistaken, otherwise it's "Grand Theft Aero")Yes I beleive you are right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Vaccine Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Anyone actually know how to get a Lightless Borgnine? I know it's possible, like the Lightless Taxi, Cabbie, and Graffitiless Hoods Rumpo XL, but how to do it? Do you just drive by the Borgnine going fast, while a lot of other Vehicles spawn in the area, and hope it spawns without a light due to too much game data trying to be loaded at once, or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fooking Rekt Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Anyone actually know how to get a Lightless Borgnine? I know it's possible, like the Lightless Taxi, Cabbie, and Graffitiless Hoods Rumpo XL, but how to do it? Do you just drive by the Borgnine going fast, while a lot of other Vehicles spawn in the area, and hope it spawns without a light due to too much game data trying to be loaded at once, or what? That's how i got the NE Bloodring Banger in VC, so propably yes. Â Omg am i seeing this right? GTAKid finally decided to collect these too? O.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Vaccine Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Yeah, I figured that is what has to happen. It's the only way I can think of... Â Yeah, he finally went for all 13 in the Save he did and now is working on a VC Starter Save + Finishing to 100%, but I am not sure if he's going for many Special Vehicles in VC yet since he's new to this stuff I guess, or at least in the other GTA's besides III. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAKid667 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Yeah, I've collected the Special Vehicles in GTA III before but it has never been in all in one save which is what I did this time. Other than GTA III, I have very little knowledge or experience with Special Vehicles in the other GTA Games. I've collected a few from VC and LCS in the past but nothing more than that. Â I've been working on a Vice City Starter Save as said above yet haven't really made any progress over the last few days, it's around 25% complete and I think I still have to do all 100 Taxi Fares, 10 Rampages, most of the Unique Stunt Jumps, Hotring, Dirtring and Bloodring. I've collected the Black Rancher and Sanchez from Test Track and Trial By Dirt, I think I may as well attempt going for all of the vehicles as a change from a regular 100% run which I have done many times before like III. Lethal Vaccine, Arsen Vitiuk, thehambone and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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