Slamman Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Game Shark perhaps allowed HC, I mean for online MP, I just recently heard of some meddling about in the PC online servers, I don't know about that yet, though I hope to do some Games for Windows Live online, or PSN sooner then later, but my online experience is with XBL, and I noted some cheats where you can't kill other players, and in one or two situations I remember, that player was stuck in one spot as part of the glitch. The proposed posting in Gaming Chat was that RDR was not coming to PC because Rockstar were wary of GTA modders taking liberties to mod into the WESTERN period, modern things like planes and cars, as example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash_735 Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Who says Rockstar are against Mods? They've posted links on their own News Wire regarding Ice Enhancer, a Zombie Mod and Fan made films using mods tools. They're against Modding Online, which any rightful person would be, modding your game to spawn a bazillion tugboats isn't exactly fun, it's just trolling, it's not creative, you're just pissing people off. But for Offline stuff and Single Player stuff, if it's impressive, Rockstar will promote it on their own website and point people to websites like this! L.A.Noire, that doesn't even run on RAGE, that was built in a different engine, which apparently not even Rockstar know how to use properly since they locked the PC version at 30fps and the layout is all skewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Since the PC versus console and Hot Coffee debacle, that really came about in Fall and Winter 2005, speculation is that Rock* are against modding in general. A revision to GTA IV PC patch was to allow better shadow or shading, but it actually was a detriment to iCEnhancer so people are already advised to look into version 1040 IIRC? Should point out the clear mods evidenced on Rockstar's own Social Club movie hosting, as another example of their support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZCOOL Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 I can give it to you in terms of music since I do not develop games. Imagine working on a beautiful music album for a year and then putting it out there in the world. The album is perfect in every way you could imagine. Every piece of music is exactly how you would want it. Then you have some \"artists\" that come along and decide to alter the music to suit there style and mood. Then all of a sudden your original piece of music is marred forever. I feel like R* has this innate love with there creations and wouldn\'t want people to alter them. Even though they really can not do much about it. no offense but that sortof sounds stupid to me i don\'t think they care it is about money thats atleast my guess How does other people modding a game give them any sort of financial gain? Are you dumb? GTA SA is still being played alot thanks to a Multiplayer mod. And many other mods makes people still play thouse games (and even buy them just for mods). Yes, that is the whole reason I bought it for PC. Although I still can\'t figure out how to mod. You probably have the version 2.0, that R* made impossible to mod. You have to downgrade it. Look it up. yea thats one of the reasons i think they are against it and why would they crypt the files for eflc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOTMILFDAD Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 My guess to why the files are encrypted is because Rockstar doesn't condone the art of sharing game files with other (pirated) users. I have a feeling I'm wrong though. It's 6:35AM and I can't sleep so leave me alone lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokrie Dela Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Game Shark perhaps allowed HC, I mean for online MP, I just recently heard of some meddling about in the PC online servers, I don't know about that yet, though I hope to do some Games for Windows Live online, or PSN sooner then later, but my online experience is with XBL, and I noted some cheats where you can't kill other players, and in one or two situations I remember, that player was stuck in one spot as part of the glitch. The proposed posting in Gaming Chat was that RDR was not coming to PC because Rockstar were wary of GTA modders taking liberties to mod into the WESTERN period, modern things like planes and cars, as example. Well online is a different matter. I also own an xbox, so that's my experiance also, and i've had exactly what you've described. Also similar on fifa 12 - scored a goal and our game locked up - as did everyone in my team (online clubs) after a reboot we saw the other team were STILL playing clubs, against our team, winning after scorin 2 more goals since we'd all been crashed. I've seen 10 foot players in fifa - another hack - also, and i will not hesitate to report anyone i suspect of hacking on XBL GTA i've had machinegun pistols, invisible players, players moving with rediculous speed, unkillable players, spawners etc. When you get that online, R* would of course be against mods - because it makes them look bad - mods online give games a bad reputation, so they'd lose sales. I don't play GTA online anymore simply cos it's not fun. The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. Click here to view my Poetry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesboyjr Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 From what I can gather, Rockstar isn't actively for or against PC modding. They don't cater to modders, but they don't go out of their way to hinder them either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mubd Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 I don't think Rockstar is against modding, it's just that ever since Hot Coffee, the media would go abso-f*cking-lutely into a feeding frenzy when someone emails them something with a saucy headling 'GTA _ ALLOWS YOU TO MURDER CHILDREN' because of some modder adding it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LotusRIP Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Why do people waste their time with mods, seriously. Just appreciate the game for how it is. R* are taking their sweet ass time to make the game as perfect as it can be. There's no way you can upstage R*, and if you think you can, just apply for jobs there... Seriously, mods are for fat pimpley nerds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokrie Dela Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Why do people waste their time with mods, seriously. Just appreciate the game for how it is. R* are taking their sweet ass time to make the game as perfect as it can be. There's no way you can upstage R*, and if you think you can, just apply for jobs there... Seriously, mods are for fat pimpley nerds. Yeah ok. Good luck with that frame of mind. The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. Click here to view my Poetry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SARDYNA108 Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 There are many ruining fun evil modders in multiplayer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamerzworld Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Let's clear up the bullsh*t in this topic, L.A. Noire itself is not encrypted. The only files of LAN that are encrypted are the DLC files to prevent sharing. The rest of the files are just packed in a format without encryption, just like GTA III, VC, SA, etc. There also is a modding "community" for LAN. http://forum.xentax.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=6623 If you want a game that is encrypted, look at GTAIV and the RPF files. yes i know la noire was developed by team bondi but rockstar helped so i immediatly thought of eflc that also was crypted for some reason they uncrypted the handling files Certain EFLC data files were encrypted with SecuRom by mistake. Rockstar corrected that in EFLC Patch 2. Their official position is against mods Nope. I feel like R* has this innate love with there creations and wouldn't want people to alter them. Even though they really can not do much about it. Not it either. L.A.Noire, that doesn't even run on RAGE, that was built in a different engine, which apparently not even Rockstar know how to use properly since they locked the PC version at 30fps and the layout is all skewed. The FPS cap is a limitation due to the facial animation tech being limited to 30FPS. If you remove the cap, the facial animations look extremely off because it's basically a 30FPS video on top of a model. There's not much that could have been done short of getting new cameras and having every single actor come back in and re-record everything just for PC. Why do people waste their time with mods, seriously. Just appreciate the game for how it is. R* are taking their sweet ass time to make the game as perfect as it can be. There's no way you can upstage R*, and if you think you can, just apply for jobs there... Seriously, mods are for fat pimpley nerds. I'm just going to call you what everyone else is thinking, an idiot, and leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xzxxsicko Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 How would you feel if someone thinks your game isn't right and changes it by only 0.1% adding some silly stuff and majority of people screams "OMG NEED DAT MOD!!!ZOMG!!!!" it's not right to change what others have builded from scratch . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UberChargedCJ Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 i will never mod GTA IV/EFLC the modders are evil noobs who can't have a enjoyment what they didn't got it for EFLC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duxfever Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 How would you feel if someone thinks your game isn't right and changes it by only 0.1% adding some silly stuff and majority of people screams "OMG NEED DAT MOD!!!ZOMG!!!!"it's not right to change what others have builded from scratch . The claim is useless and unnecessary in the first place. If anything, mods support the games because the people actually bother to toy around with them in the first place. "it's not right to change what others have builded from scratch" Okay? There aren't any "morals" to modding games. And as long as it isn't sh*t like... reverse engineering. And besides, Rockstar seem fine with it anyway so why should others be the ones knocking their minds over it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hristov1984 Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 They won't do anything to prevent modding, but they'll not support it. And the reason they don't is IMO they want us to enjoy their final product rather than apply a huge mod (for example) that will change everything and start playing like that. I know it sounds a little bit silly but I believe it's all about game identity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamerzworld Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 How would you feel if someone thinks your game isn't right and changes it by only 0.1% adding some silly stuff and majority of people screams "OMG NEED DAT MOD!!!ZOMG!!!!"it's not right to change what others have builded from scratch . I would feel honored they'd even take their time to mess with it. They must of liked something I did in the first place to even have the motivation to: 1. Play it 2. Figure out what they wanted to fix 3. Figure out how to mod my game 4. Figure out the best way to fix it 5. Publish and get the mod out there Obviously others may feel differently, hence why some go through drastic measures to prevent modification. It's obvious Rockstar doesn't care (and in a lot of cases actually likes them!) so that part of your argument is invalid. As for your changing something that's built from scratch moral argument, we as human being wouldn't be here if we hadn't built off of other's work. That's a really stupid argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jalaldinho Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 (edited) Its silly question but there is people modding games Is it hard to port games ??? Nooooooooob Edited January 2, 2012 by jalaldinho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtMaadadi Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 are you guys serious ?? some games i ONLY bought them because of the mods , why do you think that games like San Andreas And for exemple Battlefield 2 are still played ?? hell San Andreas has thousands of players thanks to multiplayer also the Car/plane/map mods ...etc bottom line that Moders HELP the company rather than hurting it exept if the mods are in $ than i would agree it would hurt but other than that no just no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autopilot Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 I strongly oppose the use of mods in competitive multiplayer but you cant ignore how much replay value mods can add to the single player experience. The only reason I still play CM 01/02 for example is because there's an active community of people publishing data updates and various mods for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00110001 Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Modders made gta iv on consoles boring and they freeze the game up Here we talk about PC modding. Console modding is not allowed. Stop typing in yellow. It's annoying and makes you look like a attention seeker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTREME0235 Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Stop typing in yellow. It's annoying and makes you look like a attention seeker. And at the point that you realized that you hit that 'Add Reply' button after typing the post, did you ever consider how much of a tool it made you look? If not then I'm not surprised, bring something logical to the discussion as opposed to spamming in it. You're only making yourself look like an idiot in the mean time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dystopia Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 I'm sure that if they were against it like everyone is implying they wouldn't release it on PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death2Drugs Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 i will never mod GTA IV/EFLC the modders are evil noobs who can't have a enjoyment what they didn't got it for EFLC Yeah, yeah. Mods completely ruin the game and add no fun at all and are just stupid and the people who make them are simply in a conspiracy against Rockstar and other game developers. (sarcasm) Seriously, the only reason why games such as San Andreas are still played is because of mods. We can even say modding saved the PC gaming industry, since Mods keep the game up-to-date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EncryptedReality Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 i will never mod GTA IV/EFLC the modders are evil noobs who can't have a enjoyment what they didn't got it for EFLC Yeah, yeah. Mods completely ruin the game and add no fun at all and are just stupid and the people who make them are simply in a conspiracy against Rockstar and other game developers. (sarcasm) Seriously, the only reason why games such as San Andreas are still played is because of mods. We can even say modding saved the PC gaming industry, since Mods keep the game up-to-date. Look at it this way: Don't mod Official Multiplayer but be able to mod everything else, that way nobody would complain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebestgameever Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Should CAR makers feel the way you guys think R* feels when someone changes something in a car or customises it? NO, it is the same thing. At the end of the day, i own the game and can do what ever i want and if i want to modify files and add real cars instead of the hybrid that R* make then i will do so. ( i am against hackers, mods and those who modify games to have an edge on an online games, SP wise im all for it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZCOOL Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 Stop typing in yellow. It's annoying and makes you look like a attention seeker. And at the point that you realized that you hit that 'Add Reply' button after typing the post, did you ever consider how much of a tool it made you look? If not then I'm not surprised, bring something logical to the discussion as opposed to spamming in it. You're only making yourself look like an idiot in the mean time. since we are on the subject sorry for going offtopic but your green text to me is extremely hard to read on the blue backround i use as in the theme just letting you know i have to highlight it in order to read it no offense offcourse just thought i'd mention it since i wanted to tell you since you started with that text Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwabs Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 R* can't be against modding because they're awesome, fun and even improve the game (a little bit). But there're some mods that f*cked up the game. I don't know if you guys know this mod, but I have Gta sa extreme edition 2011 mod (for gta sa if you didn't noticed it). And it's a great mod but it f*cked up my sa. Sometimes, things (I mean EVERYTHING) spawns too late. So you're driving your lamborgini in....just nothing. Sometimes....the game crashes. It just crashes without any reason. And there're more stupid bugs like that but I said enough. So I hope R* 'll support the gtaV modding community to make awesome mods that don't f*ck up the game. They know people are still buying gta sa just for the mods so why should they be against mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Stop typing in yellow. It's annoying and makes you look like a attention seeker. And at the point that you realized that you hit that 'Add Reply' button after typing the post, did you ever consider how much of a tool it made you look? If not then I'm not surprised, bring something logical to the discussion as opposed to spamming in it. You're only making yourself look like an idiot in the mean time. since we are on the subject sorry for going offtopic but your green text to me is extremely hard to read on the blue backround i use as in the theme just letting you know i have to highlight it in order to read it no offense offcourse just thought i'd mention it since i wanted to tell you since you started with that text Okay, can we get back on topic please. If you have a problem with whatever color text a user is using, please PM them instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOTMILFDAD Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Why do people waste their time with mods, seriously. Just appreciate the game for how it is. R* are taking their sweet ass time to make the game as perfect as it can be. There's no way you can upstage R*, and if you think you can, just apply for jobs there... Seriously, mods are for fat pimpley nerds. Is this really your logic? Mods can enhance the game to your liking. Believe it or not, but not every game Rockstar makes is absolutely catered to 100% everyone. There are people out there who prefer real cars as opposed to GTA's. There are people out there who like making machinema, so they install Camhacks. There are people out there who would love to play in III-era city's such as Liberty City, Vice, and San Andreas, so they install total conversions. Not one modder is trying to "upstage" Rockstar by making mods. Instead they are trying to compliment Rockstar by enhancing their game. Your last statement made you sound like a complete ignorant tool, so gtfo GTAForums and go back to playing your COD or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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