AnthMUFC-Champs Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 After the destruction of the original World Trade Centre in 2001 Lower Manhattan was bare. Where the grand buildings once stood was emptiness. Such a tragic disaster for everybody but i was just wondering which design for the rebuild do you prefer. As we all probably no the design has already been decided and is under construction. But i would still like to here everyone's opinions. Current Design http://www.wtc.com/ Twin Towers II Design http://www.twintowersii.com/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingdongs Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 I really like the current Freedom Tower they are building. I like to look at its progress every time I drive back up to Long Island (it adds about an hour to the trip going through Manhattan but it's worth it) and it really is going to be a beautiful tower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthMUFC-Champs Posted January 1, 2012 Author Share Posted January 1, 2012 I really like the current Freedom Tower they are building. I like to look at its progress every time I drive back up to Long Island (it adds about an hour to the trip going through Manhattan but it's worth it) and it really is going to be a beautiful tower. I have not kept up with the progress recently of the construction and i was just wondering how much do you think of it is completed, percentage wise? As for both designs i really like them both but i still do miss the old two towers but sometimes its best to move on and i am sure the new ones will become just as iconic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingdongs Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 I really like the current Freedom Tower they are building. I like to look at its progress every time I drive back up to Long Island (it adds about an hour to the trip going through Manhattan but it's worth it) and it really is going to be a beautiful tower. I have not kept up with the progress recently of the construction and i was just wondering how much do you think of it is completed, percentage wise? As for both designs i really like them both but i still do miss the old two towers but sometimes its best to move on and i am sure the new ones will become just as iconic. In terms of percent completed? I am no architect but I'd say like 60 percent done? Again that's just from seeing the construction. Last time I looked was early December when I drove up so I think it's probably the same at this point. I know it's going to be opened up in early-mid 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthMUFC-Champs Posted January 1, 2012 Author Share Posted January 1, 2012 I really like the current Freedom Tower they are building. I like to look at its progress every time I drive back up to Long Island (it adds about an hour to the trip going through Manhattan but it's worth it) and it really is going to be a beautiful tower. I have not kept up with the progress recently of the construction and i was just wondering how much do you think of it is completed, percentage wise? As for both designs i really like them both but i still do miss the old two towers but sometimes its best to move on and i am sure the new ones will become just as iconic. In terms of percent completed? I am no architect but I'd say like 60 percent done? Again that's just from seeing the construction. Last time I looked was early December when I drove up so I think it's probably the same at this point. I know it's going to be opened up in early-mid 2013. Yeah i got to say the actual building looks beautiful and of course fits in with allot of modern buildings being built today. It isn't just one building either i heard they were planning to build five or more i cant quite remember. Anyway can you see the building from quite a distance at the moment? I really want to track its progress but cant seem to find any decent websites that do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gtaman_92 Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 (edited) The twin towers were real iconic and simple and i miss them alot but i like the new wtc better. Rebuilding the twins would not only bring back bad memories it will also be stupid to have a 70s era building built in the 2010s. There is nothing wrong with one wtc, it looks more modern and futuristic and it is being build more safely then the twins. Whoever want the towers back should just move on. The topping out of the building will actually happen early this year and it will open in 2013, here is the building below, right now is at the 92 floor. Edited January 1, 2012 by Gtaman_92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPMovies Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 As a New Yorker without question the Twin Towers . Last Saturday on Christmas Eve seeing the Freedom Tower being built up,for the first time(I would agree that it's about 60% done) really pissed me off. Sitting on that ferry and looking at it, I was just getting agitated. The Twin Towers were iconic, and respresented "New York Power" if you catch my drift. The Freedom Tower and surrounding buildings also dont fit the skyline, to go with this a new building shouldve been up by 09. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gtaman_92 Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 As a New Yorker without question the Twin Towers . Last Saturday on Christmas Eve seeing the Freedom Tower being built up,for the first time(I would agree that it's about 60% done) really pissed me off. Sitting on that ferry and looking at it, I was just getting agitated. The Twin Towers were iconic, and respresented "New York Power" if you catch my drift. The Freedom Tower and surrounding buildings also dont fit the skyline, to go with this a new building shouldve been up by 09. What part of nyc you live in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthMUFC-Champs Posted January 1, 2012 Author Share Posted January 1, 2012 The twin towers were real iconic and simple and i miss them alot but i like the new wtc better. Rebuilding the twins would not only bring back bad memories it will also be stupid to have a 70s era building built in the 2010s. There is nothing wrong with one wtc, it looks more modern and futuristic and it is being build more safely then the twins. Whoever want the towers back should just move on. The topping out of the building will actually happen early this year and it will open in 2013, here is the building below, right now is at the 92 floor. Yes but the new Twin Towers II idea would not of been a complete "rebuild" of the old towers it was a new design. Think of it as the old towers being revamped for modern times. I have to agree with the other member i think the old towers represented New York City as much as the Empire State Building. I would of preferred a new Twin Towers designed for modern day and maybe a set of other surrounding buildings on the complex. Not saying the new buildings are ugly though i like them as well just the old design edges it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchuck Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 I would have to go with Twin Towers II. Having seen NYC only through the TV and the movies, the twin towers were simply iconic. They meant NYC to me. This freedom tower thing appears to be just another skyscraper. Surely to New Yorkers it can mean something else, but to me it just looks like any other building. And personally I would suggest that "rebuilding" the twin towers would have been a nice middle finger to terrorists, showing the power America has to pick itself up from the ground and start anew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPMovies Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 What part of nyc you live in? Staten Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhus Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Should be more Art-Deco-y. It looks way too sleek and modern. All modern design seems to be soulless and without solid form. Looks terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AnthMUFC-Champs Posted January 1, 2012 Author Share Posted January 1, 2012 I completely agree i think them two towers represented NYC as much as any landmark in the city. Why they never rebuilt them with a new modern design in keeping with the original is obscene. They went on about sticking it to the terrorists then why alter such a famous skyline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*MURDOC* Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Hey, I remember this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthMUFC-Champs Posted January 1, 2012 Author Share Posted January 1, 2012 Hey, I remember this topic. No your getting confused with the old "Freedom Tower" topic. Yes both are similar however this was originally intended for Debates and Discussion and this is also about the old design as well as the current one and which one is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingdongs Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 I guess to people who aren't from NY the Twin Towers mean a lot as an identifier of the city, etc. but to me I really think the Freedom Tower is great the way it is currently being built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonnyBlack Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 I like the design of the new WTC, but I'm very sentimental towards the original twin towers. I'm not from NY and sadly I never got to see them in person, but growing up I always seen them in film and on tv, as well as in pictures. Their simple design always made them beautiful in their own way. The fact that there was two of them, standing so tall and so identical to one another, and standing so close to each other made them such an iconic site. I'll always think of the original twin towers when I hear about the WTC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthMUFC-Champs Posted January 1, 2012 Author Share Posted January 1, 2012 I guess to people who aren't from NY the Twin Towers mean a lot as an identifier of the city, etc. but to me I really think the Freedom Tower is great the way it is currently being built. Yeah i get what you mean but didn't they actually do a survey back when the design was revealed for the new Word Trade Centre? Am sure they asked the residents of NYC which design they would prefer and a vast majority voted for Twin Towers II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheat Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 I've never seen the old design in real-life, but I've seen what One World Trade Center looked like in July and I must say that it was looking great and the final design looks really nice, real smooth with the curves and the symbolism is lovely, I'm into that. The Twin Towers were, imo, a too "bricky", plain and square-ish (yeah, I've always been good with design terminology), but they were iconic, no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinski Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 The Twin Towers were, imo, a too "bricky", plain and square-ish Seconded. Two big, heaving grey monoliths. No soul and no appeal. Perfect for a massive corporate building, as it was. But the next thing to be built there was always going to be there for more than its official purpose. If you're going to build something that'll serve as a memorial, put more soul into it than two grey rectangles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunrise Driver Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 (edited) I like this one especially at dusk/dawn with lights but TT2 still would be better. Even being squarish and grey they had some beauty. What I don't like is 3 WTC design. Looks average and similar to Times Building. Edited January 2, 2012 by Street Mix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08LasVenturas Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 In all honesty I think a rebuild of the twin towers would be just a shadow of its former self. Granted the old complex was more iconic but it's gone now. Being 18, the World Trade Center site has been a construction site more than it was the towers in my lifetime, so they never really held any special meaning to me. I like how the new plaza looks and how all the buildings tie together with the memorial, the Twin Towers 2 design is stark. I wish they kept the name "Freedom Tower" instead of changing it to "One world trade center", or at least keep one world trade center as the official name or address. And it would be cool if they kept the twin light beams year round, so at least there would be two towers in the skyline. Anyway, I'm glad to see progress on the tower, it was cool when I went to New York 2 weeks ago, driving out of the Lincoln Tunnel from the NJ side of the river you could see the new world trade center all lit up, it's now the tallest building in Lower Manhattan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr quick Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 If we are going to look into the future we have to tear down the past! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmC12 Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 The Twin Towers were, imo, a too "bricky", plain and square-ish Seconded. Two big, heaving grey monoliths. No soul and no appeal. Perfect for a massive corporate building, as it was. But the next thing to be built there was always going to be there for more than its official purpose. If you're going to build something that'll serve as a memorial, put more soul into it than two grey rectangles. This really. If you were looking at this as a brand new project you could say that the second design is alot more fitting, but this is no longer just a rebuild, for years there's been nothing there and when something finally fills the space you don't want it to be the same as the original, as if nothing had ever happened. That would just cause people to look at them like they were before which will only remind them of the tragedy. This is new, it's modern and it shows alot of planning and effort gone into it which shows the dedication to make something that not only replaces an iconic syline but serves as a memorial for lives lost. The modern and futuristic design should represent looking ahead and moving on instead of dwelling on the past. It's certainly different but I'm sure it will quickly become an iconic part of the city just like the old ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshield Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 In all honesty I think a rebuild of the twin towers would be just a shadow of its former self. Granted the old complex was more iconic but it's gone now. Being 18, the World Trade Center site has been a construction site more than it was the towers in my lifetime, so they never really held any special meaning to me. Exactly. Rebuilding the WTC to look like the old towers would be cheap. Designing a structure to purposely look like another is disgusting and flies in the face of everything Architecture stands for (I think you can figure out my thoughts on neoclassical and postmodernist Architecture - even then the designs are done through thought, and not just to look like something else). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 I like the new design. As has been stated many times already, it would be cheap and tragic to model the new buildings after the original. It needs to be a memorial, but also create a new memory and a new image in people's minds of that part of New York City. I think the new design looks great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobgtafan Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 I really wanted 2 mile high skyscrapers with the antenna on one arranged in the shape of middle finger but hey I guess Freedom Tower will do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingdongs Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 The Twin Towers were, imo, a too "bricky", plain and square-ish Seconded. Two big, heaving grey monoliths. No soul and no appeal. Perfect for a massive corporate building, as it was. But the next thing to be built there was always going to be there for more than its official purpose. If you're going to build something that'll serve as a memorial, put more soul into it than two grey rectangles. Yeah this is how I feel pretty much. As someone who smelt the smoke from the twin towers in my 3rd grade classroom, throwing up the same towers again really doesn't do much for me like a nice new beautiful tower would. Is it as iconic as the same old two towers? Probably not though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddyoung Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 i prefer the one being built. its just more striking. i saw it being built last week, and was breathless at the site of it even though it isnt done yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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