Mokrie Dela Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Where is the Blue? thread had less mystery and merit to it, and I don't think at all those were related to the SA locale, so nope, the Genesis topic as the OP being DeepThr0at, had the most mystery for me fair point. Even now i don't see any connection between that pic and V - people were saying he "leaked" stuff about IV, and got it right, so this had to be right. I admit Gen had more mystery - where is the blue jst made me feel stupid with all the theories going on. Maybe i missed Gen's high point :\ The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. Click here to view my Poetry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invisible Don Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 There fore, things NOT from R*'s mouth are fake, beause you can not prove otherwise. Does Ned Luke count as being "Rockstar"? What about his friends? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staten Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 There fore, things NOT from R*'s mouth are fake, beause you can not prove otherwise. Does Ned Luke count as being "Rockstar"? What about his friends? Okay, how about this: Things NOT from R*'s mouth are fake; Things NOT from R*'s mouth BUT have evidence other than "this is a leak" can be judged as possibilities on the basis of that evidence. @Mokrie Dela: Read the first ten pages of Genesis, find the post by Hurrikane about the Agent CV and you've covered a lot of the high points. The rest are too difficult to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 I'm not going to bring up my own Forum, due to the Mods here, and Admin getting all bent out of shape if they're not the only GTA forum in town, but the fact was on our forum, I had no qualms about just leaving out much speculation, but this forum being the biggest, I think it's ripe for all manner of speculation, for two years running, if not more, the GTA V section has transpired into THE forum section for the game we know is coming. Before this past year, no one knew if GTA was a project Rockstar were even working on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokrie Dela Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 fair point about ned luke - if he's oficially said it.... I think common sense comes in to play. But then wasn't there some random actor on twitter claiming he was in V? I suppose if an actor says he's in the game (IMDB of course not counting) through official channels, then that would warrent discussion. The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. Click here to view my Poetry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mubd Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 I never assume any and all leaks are fake, the last one was this phone call, http://www.firstpost.com/topic/person/the-...Mw-48466-2.html I really found it interesting, and just because you can FAKE A PHONE CALL, or EDIT TEXT online, that doesn't debunk a thing in my book. Make one Genesis II topic; V: Revelations... or not?? hahaha Something with tongue in cheek, and let people do some more speculating, if something's used from other game sources, it can quickly be discarded That 'Rockstar Employee' seems to start off as an American, then devolves into an Australian accent as the call goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamcs Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Things NOT from R*'s mouth are fake;Things NOT from R*'s mouth BUT have evidence other than "this is a leak" can be judged as possibilities on the basis of that evidence. Spare a thought for the members who come here looking for authentic information. If we allowed everything and anything to be posted, then the good discoveries (like the casting call, the 'leaked' domains and the Ned Luke thing) would be difficult to find amongst the crap and would receive less attention than they should. Especially if other 'leaks' contain jucier details (such as casting calls listing returning characters from SA ) despite being obviously fake. There's a massive difference between the examples I mentioned above and the other examples (fake phone calls, OnlySurvivor stuff..) mentioned in this thread. If people are taking the phone call seriously, then I really do despair. It's one of the most obvious fakes I've seen (or rather, heard) in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knife Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 The problem with most fakes is they are painfully obviously not real. Like , posted a number of times. It shocks me that people think that might be real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamcs Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 The problem with most fakes is they are painfully obviously not real. Like , posted a number of times. It shocks me that people think that might be real. Perhaps I have a poor memory, but I don't remember people being this gullible in 2007/08 (during the run-up to IV). The parents of the post-IV generation have a lot to answer for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 (edited) How is a phone call proven faked? I didn't find it all that much of an unknown revealed, for one example, and it was still interesting. Well, considering there was a "slow news day" As for that Test beta, it's gotten a lot of attention and the van model looks similar to what's been found in GTA or used before The factoid is, a dedicated topic can round up the false info so we can at least compare it to what Rockstar issues out as legit info on the game and we're not left wondering, guessing, or searching for some clues dropped prior Edited January 2, 2012 by Slamman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokrie Dela Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 The problem with most fakes is they are painfully obviously not real. Like , posted a number of times. It shocks me that people think that might be real. Perhaps I have a poor memory, but I don't remember people being this gullible in 2007/08 (during the run-up to IV). The parents of the post-IV generation have a lot to answer for. just like most of the newbies on the forum - i've seen a few that are ok, but most seem to spam, and one actually admitted to me he/she doesn't give a sh*t about the rules, (i cant remember who or where). Most of these are kids - under 16, acting hard cos they're on a forum, yet their best arguement is probably "stinky bumbum poopoo head" Slamman: the problem is there is ZERO evidence backing up these youtube videos, these pictures etc. Most can EASILY be faked. Hell i could fake it and most of the poeple here would gobble it up. If it's real, then we will find out eventually. But until then, for the sake of the info-seekers and neatness of the forum, we have to put it in the "unproved" list. A "unproved rumours" topic/subforum (i'd set up the latter personally) would be a good idea but thats more areas in needing of moderation, and opening up to more spam. 2 pinned topics - one with "OFFICIAL INFORMATION"* and one for "UNPROVED SPECULATION" *- throw every leak, vid etc in there, and have the V forum for genuiine discussion. *again, i personally would have these as 2 seperate forums within the V one, but i may be wrong The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. Click here to view my Poetry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 Still a phone call sounding as professional IMHO, can be real, as much as it can be faked 50/50 chances. Regardless, rumors can be discussed in my book, not OFF LIMITS!??? That I don't approve of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Sevens Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Still a phone call sounding as professional IMHO, can be real, as much as it can be faked 50/50 chances. Regardless, rumors can be discussed in my book, not OFF LIMITS!??? That I don't approve of. I agree. If we are only going to discuss hardcore proven facts, then the whole forum could be summed in one post, and we may aswell not be here. People are smart enough to make up their own minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokrie Dela Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Still a phone call sounding as professional IMHO, can be real, as much as it can be faked 50/50 chances. Regardless, rumors can be discussed in my book, not OFF LIMITS!??? That I don't approve of. that's why i think we need a dedicated area for it But who would take notice? The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. Click here to view my Poetry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrcTOtheJ Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) The problem with most fakes is they are painfully obviously not real. Like , posted a number of times. It shocks me that people think that might be real. Perhaps I have a poor memory, but I don't remember people being this gullible in 2007/08 (during the run-up to IV). The parents of the post-IV generation have a lot to answer for. just like most of the newbies on the forum - i've seen a few that are ok, but most seem to spam, and one actually admitted to me he/she doesn't give a sh*t about the rules, (i cant remember who or where). Most of these are kids - under 16, acting hard cos they're on a forum, yet their best arguement is probably "stinky bumbum poopoo head" Yeah this hits the nail on the head, and while there have been a few ok new comers, allot of the November and December Kids who joined only for the V Trailer are a bit n00bish. And as adamcs said, the parents of the post-IV gen have allot to answer for. And it seems most of the "leaks" are coming from them, which IMO is a big indicator right there that odds are it's fake. It would be nice if there was a dedicate topic and or sub section for leaks, but as people who said...who'd notice? Edited January 9, 2012 by Mr.c TO the J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokrie Dela Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Yeah this hits the nail on the head, and while there have been a few ok new comers, allot of the November and December Kids who joined only for the V Trailer are a bit n00bish. And as adamcs said, the parents of the post-IV gen have allot to answer for. And it seems most of the "leaks" are coming from them, which IMO is a big indicator right there that odds are it's fake. It would be nice if there was a dedicate topic and or sub section for leaks, but as people who said...who'd notice? I've actually had a member admit to me that they don't care about the rules and will spam, or do wtf they want, and that the mods can suck their dick... I cant remember who though. That says it all. If a member from my era (this is my 2nd account after Microsoft made my first inaccessable by expiring my email address - i first joined in 2002 - after being an anon user since GTA III came out) posted something it'd have more substance to it, but we'd still view it with a cynical eye. None of these leaks back themselves up - even the casting calls are iffy imo. The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. Click here to view my Poetry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 You can't make a policy based on a handful of unrulies, if that's what you imply. The thing upsetting to reading members is rehashing leaks by newbs who haven't looked into things being posted here prior, and it's the safest bet to assume it has been found and brought up, people doing so need to have the patience to look here before posting, or as said, one thread to look in for what's been said in these two years or so, waiting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBrat Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Still a phone call sounding as professional IMHO, can be real, as much as it can be faked 50/50 chances. Regardless, rumors can be discussed in my book, not OFF LIMITS!??? That I don't approve of. It sounds real. The guy didn't reveal any information we don't already know, I don't see why anyone would fake something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staten Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 It sounds real. The guy didn't reveal any information we don't already know, I don't see why anyone would fake something like that. Are you talking about the YouTube video? If so, there's your reason right there: generating views. I don't use YouTube myself, but I believe that if you get enough views, google lets you put their adverts on there, which can generate income. There's a user here who is trying to do a similar thing by taking the contents of threads on this forum and turning them into videos with the barest acknowledgement to the people who found the stuff out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokrie Dela Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 It sounds real. The guy didn't reveal any information we don't already know, I don't see why anyone would fake something like that. Are you talking about the YouTube video? If so, there's your reason right there: generating views. I don't use YouTube myself, but I believe that if you get enough views, google lets you put their adverts on there, which can generate income. There's a user here who is trying to do a similar thing by taking the contents of threads on this forum and turning them into videos with the barest acknowledgement to the people who found the stuff out. you are correct - i've declined that offer (my video of "niko bellic in FIFA 10) was apparently eligable. F*ck off lol. Slamman, i think your suggestion of a single place for all unconfirmed leaks and rumours would be the best idea, and as i said, have it as a seperate section of the forum So "V" would have 2 sub forums - one allowing posts of new "leaks" or rumours. The other allowing discussion on proper subjects, with each new topic needing approval from mods... (though that would not be too good an idea now i think of it). Maybe a single topic with URLS to each topic, an index of sorts.... The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. Click here to view my Poetry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryder 556 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 In most, if not all instances, there are obvious signs which show the 'leaks' are fake. Show us one GTA V leak that you think is true, and people will blow it out of the water. I wouldn't necessarily call this a leak, maybe some dude making predictions, but if it was actually someone from R*, then we all know that leaks can happen to R* as well. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=402248 This is from over a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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