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john12

If a fight is going on between someone then who calms everything?

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alifjenius
If a fight is going on between someone then who calms everything?

Well, we rarely have a fight between two designers. There is one between Rytuklis and alucardiff (sorry for both Rytuklis and alucardiff) mati is the one who put off the fight. So I'd like to say mati

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john12

Jetjain and ilovegta123456 had a fight and Chimpso handled it.

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KaRzY6

I think i'll change the question to "Who handles/helps fights between designers?"

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KaRzY6

Added question 28-49. biggrin.gif

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28. Which mission-pack was your favourite?

Brian Thompson's Heist by Jimmy_Leppard

 

29. Which storyline was your favourite?

Matthew Hegan's Path by LeonCJ

 

30. Which mission-pack/storyline looked so interesting and awesome, but once you played the missions, it was a disappointment?

I don't have any ideas

 

31. Who makes the most interesting mission-pack/storyline?

Jimmy_Leppard

 

32. Who makes the best topics on GTAForums, for there mission-packs/storylines ?

Hmmm.... I don't know. KaRzY6 maybe ? His topic always feature nice used of BB codes. Like GFX, Table and Anchor & Hook

 

-----Random Questions-----

 

33. Do you rather play or design missions?

Both of them I think

 

34. When did you start using DYOM?

Since I'm 12th years old

 

35. Why did you choose DYOM over other mission-building programs?

It is really simple. And very easy to learn about it

 

36. What was your first mission? (Link)

"The End of GTA III Era". It's about Luis Lopez (I use the model in GTA SA that has the same jacket as Luis) killing all the important characters in GTA III Era (Claude, Catalina, CJ, and the others) Sorry, no link, I never upload that mission

 

37. Have you dropped any mission-packs? (Give your reason why)

Never

 

38. What was your best mission-pack?

SA Noire I guess ?

 

39. Do you like the new DYOM website?

NO sarcasm.gifWhy you have to ask this question -_- Of course it is a YES

 

40. What DYOM feature(s) should be added?

Moving cutscenes ? No no no. How about ammo limitation ? Why you always have 9999 ammos when you picked up a gun ?

 

41. What DYOM feature(s) should be removed?

Put After Selected maybe ?

 

42. Which other GTA should DYOM support?

GTA IV ?

 

43. In a mission, quality or quantity?

Hmmmm.... Quality I guess

 

44. Do you rate and comment on the new DYOM website?

Well, sometimes. Not too often

 

45. Do you think Dutchy and Patrick will release a new version of DYOM on GTA:SA?

Hope so sarcasm.gif

 

46. Which new features will be added?

Question no.40

 

47. Do you think v6.1 is the last DYOM on GTA:SA?

Then why Dutchy openned a topic called "Ideas" ? That topic must be the idea source for the next DYOM version (well, hope so sarcasm.gif )

 

48. If this is the last version on GTA:SA, which GTA is next?

GTA IV please. Or another GTA III era, maybe ? I'd like to see DYOM for GTA VC

 

49. Do you think Dutchy and Patrick have retired from .scm coding, and will never make a new DYOM version again?

Hope they are not. Hope they still working on a newer version

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john12

-----Mission-packs/storylines-----

 

28. Which mission-pack was your favourite?

 

S.A Noire and some SF's Mission packs.

 

29. Which storyline was your favourite?

 

Matt's Path (but with lot's of bug).

 

30. Which mission-pack/storyline looked so interesting and awesome, but once you played the missions, it was a disappointment?

 

I guess TSOLK (not the remake).

 

31. Who makes the most interesting mission-pack/storyline?

 

LCJ. Eg- Ghost Ship and Matt's Path.

 

32. Who makes the best topics on GTAForums, for there mission-packs/storylines?

 

Everyone's topic is awsome so no offence but LCJ's topic is creative and K6's too.

 

-----Random Questions-----

 

33. Do you rather play or design missions?

 

Both (i guess i have answered it...)

 

34. When did you start using DYOM?

 

When i was 10.

 

35. Why did you choose DYOM over other mission-building programs?

 

it was good but didn't know that bit complicated.

 

36. What was your first mission? (Link)

 

A fun with Jetpack

 

37. Have you dropped any mission-packs? (Give your reason why)

 

Nope i won't.

 

38. What was your best mission-pack?

 

THE CRASH!!!

 

39. Do you like the new DYOM website?

 

Yes

 

40. What DYOM feature(s) should be added?

 

Anything which benifits wink.gif

 

41. What DYOM feature(s) should be removed?

 

Put after sh*tty Selected angry.gif

 

42. Which other GTA should DYOM support?

 

All GTA 3 era games and non-pc like XBOX360 and PS2/PS3

 

43. In a mission, quality or quantity?

 

Quality

 

44. Do you rate and comment on the new DYOM website?

 

Both but not often.

 

45. Do you think Dutchy and Patrick will release a new version of DYOM on GTA:SA?

 

Yup with lot's of bug fix

 

46. Which new features will be added?

 

Route point increase.

 

47. Do you think v6.1 is the last DYOM on GTA:SA?

 

Nope, atleast for 21/12/12

 

48. If this is the last version on GTA:SA, which GTA is next?

 

GTA 5 (i love GTA SA Modifications)

 

49. Do you think Dutchy and Patrick have retired from .scm coding, and will never make a new DYOM version again?

 

They also have a life.

 

 

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Shahonix

26. Who spams to most in DYOM Section? (not the banned one's)

Joni2030

 

27. Who handles/helps fights between designers?

Never saw any designer fights before confused.gif

 

28. Which mission-pack was your favourite?

Which path will you take? and S.A. Noire

 

29. Which storyline was your favourite?

Matthew Hegan's path

 

30. Which mission-pack/storyline looked so interesting and awesome, but once you played the missions, it was a disappointment?

The San Andreas Chronicles, the user was banned. So it was disappoint for me confused.gif

 

31. Who makes the most interesting mission-pack/storyline?

S.A. Noire

 

32. Who makes the best topics on GTAForums, for there mission-packs/storylines?

KaRzY6 and Secronom President no doubt.

 

33. Do you rather play or design missions?

Both but design more

 

34. When did you start using DYOM?

November 01 2011

 

35. Why did you choose DYOM over other mission-building programs?

Easy and fast

 

36. What was your first mission? (Link)

The big war of grove

 

37. Have you dropped any mission-packs? (Give your reason why)

Nope never dropped any. Just hold on for a while

 

38. What was your best mission-pack?

Alex Reed Stories. Already done 8 missions for the 1st chapter.

 

39. Do you like the new DYOM website?

Nope -_- Of course yes! Everybody does.

 

40. What DYOM feature(s) should be added?

1. Kill the actor before reach his destination

2. Moving cutscene

3. Same as alifjenius ammo limitation.

 

41. What DYOM feature(s) should be removed?

None.

 

42. Which other GTA should DYOM support?

GTA IV

 

43. In a mission, quality or quantity?

Quantity

 

44. Do you rate and comment on the new DYOM website?

Sometimes not always

 

45. Do you think Dutchy and Patrick will release a new version of DYOM on GTA:SA?

Yes I think they will because Dutchy ask about what we want in DYOM new ver.

 

46. Which new features will be added?

It's the same as question no. 40 angry.gif

 

47. Do you think v6.1 is the last DYOM on GTA:SA?

Nope. Read questions no. 45

 

48. If this is the last version on GTA:SA, which GTA is next?

GTA IV or Vice City

 

49. Do you think Dutchy and Patrick have retired from .scm coding, and will never make a new DYOM version again?

Nope

 

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john12

Some questions are similar K6. Better remove them smile.gif.

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Shiva.

I came here, to post my reply but on seeing Satourn Fans replies I got hurt and I need a little break. And, I wanna tell you guys one thing, Im not a bastard in english. I usually chat in facebook with short english Like hw r u....... Thats my nature. But, when it comes to DYOM , Im not a facebook freak. Ill take more time to type words in DyoM. Anyway, good luck to john and karzy, this topic is getting more replies from Seniors too.

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Notna

If someone has a problem with you, deal with it.

1. Who is the overall, best DYOM designer in DYOM history?

Jimmy.

 

2. Who is the most creative?

Jimmy.

 

3. Who makes the best tutorials?

Chimpso.

 

4. Who is most helpful?

Secronom President.

 

5. Who makes the best topics about the forums?

KaRzY6.

 

6. Which banned designer would you bring back?

Fort Minor, he had nice missions.

 

7. Who is more helpful, Dutchy or Patrick?

Dutchy, but only because she's more online than Patrick.

 

8. Who is the best mission reviewer?

AznKei.

 

9. Who is the best reviewer besides AznKei?

No idea.

 

10. Who is the best mission video reviewer?

Alifjenius.

 

11. Who makes the best cutscenes?

Jimmy.

 

12. Who should've won an reward, that didn't? What area should they have won in?

Jimmy, for the Best Storyline.

 

13. Should Dutchy and Patrick give someone a job at moderating and looking after the DYOM section? If so, then who?

Jimmy.

 

14. Which retired designer should come back?

Mati.

 

15. What do you think of the new designers?

KaRzY6 ~ Makes great topics and have great missions. Great guy.

john12 ~ First he was bad, but he's cool now. Nice missions too.

MCJ ~ I don't know him very well, but he seems to have nice missions, I have to check them out.

-S-hark21 ~ Great mission designer, nice guy and really has some video editing skills, what I really respect, as it is the closest thing for me.

shiva s ~ He has nice missions, though he has to work on his English.

eL_chiKo ~ I don't know him very good.

Pepper_Turkey ~ Same here.

Bunny.8 ~ Haven't tried her missions, but I respect her as a female DYOM designer. That's great.

Darkseller63 ~ Seems to be very nice guy, have to try his missions.

Nitrohogs ~ Made the best mission pack topic ever, but he's banned now.

 

16. Do you think they will/are helping the small DYOM community?

Some of them at least, yes.

 

17. Needs to learn better English?

shiva s, but it is understable.

 

18. Who is annoying?

Nobody, yet...

 

19. Who makes un-useful topics?

Joni2030.

 

20. Who always starts a mission-pack and never completes it?

No idea.

 

21. Most useful topic?

Oh... DYOM Magazine?

 

22. Most un-useful topic?

Dunno.

 

23. Which is better BUYSAG, DYOM Heros or Let Your Own Faction Rise?

BUYSAG.

 

24. Written Reviews(AznKei) or Videos Reviews(DoublePulse)?

Video reviews, as I respect footage more than text.

 

25. Best mission-pack game? (E.g. Chose Your Destiny)

Oh, dunno.

 

26. Who spams to most in DYOM Section? (not the banned one's)

Joni2030.

 

27. Who handles/helps fights between designers?

Haven't seen a fight out here.

 

28. Which mission-pack was your favourite?

 

29. Which storyline was your favourite?

 

30. Which mission-pack/storyline looked so interesting and awesome, but once you played the missions, it was a disappointment?

No idea.

 

31. Who makes the most interesting mission-pack/storyline?

Jimmy.

 

32. Who makes the best topics on GTAForums, for there mission-packs/storylines?

Nitrohogs, but he's banned now...

 

33. Do you rather play or design missions?

Both.

 

34. When did you start using DYOM?

2009.

 

35. Why did you choose DYOM over other mission-building programs?

It's the most easiest to understand.

 

36. What was your first mission? (Link)

Haven't uploaded it.

 

37. Have you dropped any mission-packs? (Give your reason why)

2. They just where unsuccesful and I had no idea how to continue the story.

 

38. What was your best mission-pack?

Tony Cole Chronicles.

 

39. Do you like the new DYOM website?

Yup.

 

40. What DYOM feature(s) should be added?

Dunno.

 

41. What DYOM feature(s) should be removed?

Nothing.

 

42. Which other GTA should DYOM support?

IV or VC.

 

43. In a mission, quality or quantity?

Quality.

 

44. Do you rate and comment on the new DYOM website?

Sometimes.

 

45. Do you think Dutchy and Patrick will release a new version of DYOM on GTA:SA?

Yup.

 

46. Which new features will be added?

Dunno.

 

47. Do you think v6.1 is the last DYOM on GTA:SA?

Nope.

 

48. If this is the last version on GTA:SA, which GTA is next?

There will be no DYOM for other GTA's.

 

49. Do you think Dutchy and Patrick have retired from .scm coding, and will never make a new DYOM version again?

Nope.

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guib
This sucks, I am never mentioned in these kind of topics, I suck.

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alifjenius
This sucks, I am never mentioned in these kind of topics, I suck.

No you aren't

Not just you that who that never mentioned in here. I know some, but not going to tell it

 

Problem is, you're not very active in DYOM section. I know you have George's story, but you said that the missions pack is dropped (and there is only 3 missions there) Based on the search in DYOM site, you're very active in BUYSAG. I'd like to say you are one of the "favourable BUYSAG player" in my opinion

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KaRzY6

 

This sucks, I am never mentioned in these kind of topics, I suck.

Guib. I rate as a very high member of the community. Your a great designer and great at other stuff. But, maybe people don't think the best of one thing.

 

I don't know, but there would be plenty of others who are not mentioned either....

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26. Who spams to most in DYOM Section? (not the banned one's)

- N/A

 

27. Who handles/helps fights between designers?

- N/A

 

28. Which mission-pack was your favourite?

- The story of Leon Ridge by Jimmy Leppard, first mission pack I ever played.

 

29. Which storyline was your favourite?

- Can't remember.

 

30. Which mission-pack/storyline looked so interesting and awesome, but once you played the missions, it was a disappointment?

- N/A

 

31. Who makes the most interesting mission-pack/storyline?

- Jimmy_Leppard

 

32. Who makes the best topics on GTAForums, for there mission-packs/storylines?

- LeonCJ

 

33. Do you rather play or design missions?

- Both.

 

34. When did you start using DYOM?

- Sometime in March 2011.

 

35. Why did you choose DYOM over other mission-building programs?

- It's the only one that I know of where no coding is required.

 

36. What was your first mission? (Link)

- The first mission of GTA SA 2 Chapter 1.

 

37. Have you dropped any mission-packs? (Give your reason why)

- Not yet. I was thinking about dropping Hitman but decided against it and just cut the story short. Terrorist hunt is on a hold.

 

38. What was your best mission-pack?

- No. 28

 

39. Do you like the new DYOM website?

- Isn't it obvoius?

 

40. What DYOM feature(s) should be added?

- Moving cutscenes

 

41. What DYOM feature(s) should be removed?

- None.

 

42. Which other GTA should DYOM support?

- GTA VC

 

43. In a mission, quality or quantity?

- N/A

 

44. Do you rate and comment on the new DYOM website?

- No. I rarely visit it as I can't view it properly through the phone.

 

45. Do you think Dutchy and Patrick will release a new version of DYOM on GTA:SA?

- Hope so...

 

46. Which new features will be added?

- Same as No. 40

 

47. Do you think v6.1 is the last DYOM on GTA:SA?

- Hope not...

 

48. If this is the last version on GTA:SA, which GTA is next?

- Don't know...

 

49. Do you think Dutchy and Patrick have retired from .scm coding, and will never make a new DYOM version again?

- Hope not...

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guib
This sucks, I am never mentioned in these kind of topics, I suck.

Guib. I rate as a very high member of the community. Your a great designer and great at other stuff. But, maybe people don't think the best of one thing.

 

I don't know, but there would be plenty of others who are not mentioned either....

Name one "great designer" who isn't mentioned here...

 

Let's face it, I suck at DYOM, just as all other aspects of my life.

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This sucks, I am never mentioned in these kind of topics, I suck.

Guib. I rate as a very high member of the community. Your a great designer and great at other stuff. But, maybe people don't think the best of one thing.

 

I don't know, but there would be plenty of others who are not mentioned either....

Name one "great designer" who isn't mentioned here...

 

Let's face it, I suck at DYOM, just as all other aspects of my life.

Please, don't post self-pity comments just to see how many people are gonna reply to you with ''Oh, you aren't''. That is low.

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This sucks, I am never mentioned in these kind of topics, I suck.

Guib. I rate as a very high member of the community. Your a great designer and great at other stuff. But, maybe people don't think the best of one thing.

 

I don't know, but there would be plenty of others who are not mentioned either....

Name one "great designer" who isn't mentioned here...

 

Let's face it, I suck at DYOM, just as all other aspects of my life.

Please, don't post self-pity comments just to see how many people are gonna reply to you with ''Oh, you aren't''. That is low.

You are right, I am a great designer!

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Girish

guib, this is the last time I'm going to tell you to stop spamming topics. Next time, it'll be an official warning in your member log.

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KaRzY6

26. Who spams to most in DYOM Section? (not the banned one's)

Joni2030

 

27. Who handles/helps fights between designers?

Never seen a fight between two designers.

 

28. Which mission-pack was your favourite?

Brian Thompson's Heist or Codename: Zulu.

 

29. Which storyline was your favourite?

Never actually played a storyline created by others.

 

30. Which mission-pack/storyline looked so interesting and awesome, but once you played the missions, it was a disappointment?

N/A

 

31. Who makes the most interesting mission-pack/storyline?

Jimmy

 

32. Who makes the best topics on GTAForums, for there mission-packs/storylines?

LeonCJ

 

33. Do you rather play or design missions?

Both.

 

34. When did you start using DYOM?

Early October 2011.

 

35. Why did you choose DYOM over other mission-building programs?

I think .scm coding is way to confusing. DYOM is the only one mission-building program I know that doesn't involve .scm coding.

 

36. What was your first mission? (Link)

Mission Impossible - http://dyom.gtagames.nl/?act=show&id=14700

Fixed mission - http://dyom.gtagames.nl/?act=show&id=14764

 

37. Have you dropped any mission-packs? (Give your reason why)

The Creek Banditos because of a lack of ideas.

 

38. What was your best mission-pack?

Superstar Baseballer or Army: Team AGH69.

 

39. Do you like the new DYOM website?

YES! I don't even know why I put this question in the survey.

 

40. What DYOM feature(s) should be added?

Moving cutscenes.

 

41. What DYOM feature(s) should be removed?

Put after selected. angry.gif

 

42. Which other GTA should DYOM support?

GTA:IV, GTA:V (When it comes out) or GTA:VC

 

43. In a mission, quality or quantity?

Both, but I would rather quality.

 

44. Do you rate and comment on the new DYOM website?

Yep, I'm in the hall of fame for it.

 

45. Do you think Dutchy and Patrick will release a new version of DYOM on GTA:SA?

Hope..

 

46. Which new features will be added?

Same as .40

 

47. Do you think v6.1 is the last DYOM on GTA:SA?

Hope not..

 

48. If this is the last version on GTA:SA, which GTA is next?

GTA:VC, GTA:IV or GTA:V (when it comes out).

 

49. Do you think Dutchy and Patrick have retired from .scm coding, and will never make a new DYOM version again?

I hope not.. but they do have a life.

 

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Shahonix

No new questions?? sarcasm.gif

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KaRzY6

shiva s sent me a question.

 

Who is the most friendliest in the DYOM forums?

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Notna

Who is the most friendliest in the DYOM forums?

-Alifjenius.

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john12

Same above ^_^

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alifjenius
Who is the most friendliest in the DYOM forums?

I think Notna for me

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Jimmy_Leppard
Who is the most friendliest in the DYOM forums?

Notna aswell.

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Notna

Wow, thanks guys ^^

 

And Jimmy, I think you two, Alif and you are tied for the first place.

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Pepper_Turkey

1. Who is the overall, best DYOM designer in DYOM history?

Jimmy_Leppard

 

2. Who is the most creative?

LeonCJ

 

3. Who makes the best tutorials?

Secronom President

 

4. Who is most helpful?

Secronom President and Chimpso

 

5. Who makes the best topics about the forums?

KaRzY6 and Secronom President

 

6. Which banned designer would you bring back?

E.g TonyCJ, ilovegta123456, Fort Minor etc.

Fort Minor

 

7. Who is more helpful, Dutchy or Patrick?

Both.

 

8. Who is the best mission review?

(Most likely going to be AznKei)

Your right, AznKei

 

9. Who is the best reviewer besides AznKei?

Nitesh aka AAAAAAA and KaRzY6

 

10. Who is the best mission video reviewer?

alifjenius and Doublepulse

 

11. Who makes the best cutscenes?

Mattatatta

 

12. Who should've won an reward, that didn't? What area should they have won in?

None

 

13. Should Dutchy and Patrick give someone a job at moderating and looking after the DYOM section? If so, then who?

None

 

14. Which retired designer should come back?

Mati and AznKei

 

15. What do you think of the new designers?

KaRzY6 ~ Epic designer

john12 ~ good designer

MCJ ~ don't know him

-S-hark21 ~ don't know him

shiva s ~ don't know him

eL_chiKo ~ don't know him

Pepper_Turkey ~ Me

Bunny.8 ~ Girl designer

Darkseller63 ~ don't know him

Nitrohogs ~ Got banned but his topic looked really good.

(If I forgot someone, let me know)

 

16. Do you think they will/are helping the small DYOM community?

Some

 

17. Needs to learn better English?

Me

 

18. Who is annoying?

Joni2030

 

19. Who makes un-useful topics?

^Joni2030^

 

20. Who always starts a mission-pack and never completes it?

Guib

 

21. Most useful topic?

DYOM magazine, Every designer and Designer lounge.

 

22. Most un-useful topic?

none.

 

23. Which is better BUYSAG, DYOM Heros or Let Your Own Faction Rise?

None, but probably BUYSAG.

 

24. Written Reviews(AznKei) and Videos Reviews(DoublePulse)?

Both

 

25. Best mission-pack game? (E.g. Chose Your Destiny)

W.P.W.Y.T?

 

26. Who spams to most in DYOM Section? (not the banned one's)

AnDReJ98 and Joni2030

 

27. Who handles/helps fights between designers?

None.

 

28. Which mission-pack was your favourite?

Codename Zulu.

 

29. Which storyline was your favourite?

Matthew Hegan's Path

 

30. Which mission-pack/storyline looked so interesting and awesome, but once you played the missions, it was a disappointment?

None.

 

31. Who makes the most interesting mission-pack/storyline?

LeonCJ and Jimmy_Leppard

 

32. Who makes the best topics on GTAForums, for there mission-packs/storylines?

KaRzY6

 

33. Do you rather play or design missions?

Play

 

34. When did you start using DYOM?

December 2011

 

35. Why did you choose DYOM over other mission-building programs?

Because it's easy.

 

36. What was your first mission?

Jack's Revenge (Introduction).

 

37. Have you dropped any mission-packs? (Give your reason why)

Jack's Revenge. Didn't like it.

 

38. What was your best mission-pack?

 

Jack's Revenge

 

39. Do you like the new DYOM website?

Cool

 

40. What DYOM feature(s) should be added?

None

 

41. What DYOM feature(s) should be removed?

None.

 

42. Which other GTA should DYOM support?

None.

 

43. In a mission, quality or quantity?

quality

 

44. Do you rate and comment on the new DYOM website?

No

 

45. Do you think Dutchy and Patrick will release a new version of DYOM on GTA:SA?

They better...

 

46. Which new features will be added?

I don't know.

 

47. Do you think v6.1 is the last DYOM on GTA:SA?

Better not be.

 

48. If this is the last version on GTA:SA, which GTA is next?

None

 

49. Do you think Dutchy and Patrick have retired from .scm coding, and will never make a new DYOM version again?

They better not have retired.

 

50. Who is the most friendliest in the DYOM forums?

Alifjenius, KaRzY6 and Notna.

 

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well thanks to everyone who answered a question with my name, well i'll answer this later, i'm too lazy and theres too many questions, but i'll pose some new questions, LOL biggrin.gif

 

______________________________________

 

.who was the most helpful person to you when you were new to DYOM ?

.who was the person who inspired you ?

.who has kept on helping you until now ?

.your favorite mission ?

.who do respect alot ?

.who was the most helpful person to you when you were new to DYOM ?

.who was the person who inspired you ?

.who has kept on helping you until now ?

.your favorite mission ?

.who do respect alot ?

.who do you disrespect alot ?

 

.who is the most rowdiest person you've ever seen here ?

 

_______________________________________

 

your opinions on 4 DYOM designers or four active DYOM users or 4 who're a mixture of both. tounge.gif

Edited by abishai.kochara

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abishai.kochara

well thanks to everyone who answered a question with my name, well i'll answer this later, i'm too lazy and theres too many questions, but i'll pose some new questions, LOL biggrin.gif

 

______________________________________

 

.who was the most helpful person to you when you were new to DYOM ?

.who was the person who inspired you ?

.who has kept on helping you until now ?

.your favorite mission ?

.who do respect alot ?

.who was the most helpful person to you when you were new to DYOM ?

.who was the person who inspired you ?

.who has kept on helping you until now ?

.your favorite mission ?

.who do respect alot ?

.who do you disrespect alot ?

 

.who is the most rowdiest person you've ever seen here ?

 

_______________________________________

 

your opinions on 4 DYOM designers or four active DYOM users or 4 who're a mixture of both. tounge.gif

Edited by abishai.kochara

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