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Back in 2003 a women was in a fatal car crash and lost her arm and was basically pronounced dead. She didn't die but she was in a coma for a long time. The accident was caused by a large comsumption of alcohol.

 

Has anyone ever heard of Sarah Panzau?

 

Just wondering, has anyone on GTAForums ever drank and and got behind the wheel?

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What have you been Smoking?

Google has a page on Sarah Panzau.

Nearly every member over 16 (except me) has driven buzzed or worse. mad.gif

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What have you been Smoking?

Google has a page on Sarah Panzau.

Nearly every member over 16 (except me) has driven buzzed or worse. mad.gif

I don't smoke I never knew about her until today when we spoke for the first time. Maybe you should be taught some respect.

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I have, been busted for it too. In August 2006 I had one drink at the bar with some of the guys who worked for me. Just one double Capt. and Coke. I left and did what's called a California stop at a stop sign and got busted at a .10 which in the states means it's over the legal limit. I didn't take it serious as I knew I would be let off easy as it's only .01 over the limit so three weeks later when I'm out drinking with buddies I got stopped on my way home for speeding, this time I had a f*cking .17! I got out of both since they were in different towns and my Lawyer was damn good. Learned my lesson.

 

Forum related, since I was pretty much petrified of going out ever again for a long time and facing all kinds of trouble, that's when I bought BF2 and spent hours playing it with MyMothersMySister, Parky and all the others. Got to know the guys in the Z pretty well.

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Maybe you should be taught some respect.

Weren't you the guy who had the male porn in his sig a while ago?

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Maybe you should be taught some respect.

Weren't you the guy who had the male porn in his sig a while ago?

Ha! What a way to be remembered!

 

I don't drive so I mainly walk to places while under the influence. Still pretty damn dangerous tounge.gif Last week there were three people run over in one night next to a nightclub down the street from my place. Two of the drivers were drunk and had been warned by police before hand to get a taxi. Fools.

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What have you been Smoking?

Google has a page on Sarah Panzau.

Nearly every member over 16 (except me) has driven buzzed or worse. mad.gif

Not proud of it but yeah. Its f*cking dumb though, if you get into an accident that's not your fault at all you're still f*cked. Do not recommend.

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Surely I can't be in the minority when I say I've never driven drunk (including in the 'tipsy' state) before? Don't get me wrong I've gone out and had a couple of shandy's many a-times before, but I've always made sure that there's plenty of time for me to sober up in between (e.g. usually when I go to the cinema or for a meal with thee bird). I have two friends who have drunk drove in the last twelve months though. One served a three month ban which was then rescinded as he needed his vehicle for work, and another is currently half way through an eighteenth month ban.

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Sarah came to my high school 3 years ago. She talked about drinking and driving, and, oddly enough, abstinence.

 

And I don't drink or drive, so yeah.

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Maybe you should be taught some respect.

Weren't you the guy who had the male porn in his sig a while ago?

That wasn't me.

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Yes I have driven drunk before, and I've driven high too. Not particuarly an act I'm proud of, but youth, pretty girls, and just plain nievety get the best of every one at times.

Best to just to pay for a cab for all the trouble its worth to actually attempt to drive when you are out of it.

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I'm not sure where lil weasel gets his statistic that "nearly every member over 16" has driven while somewhat intoxicated.

 

I'd never consider doing such a thing.

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Driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol is completely moronic. A few years ago there was an accident just down the road frome. Four guys had done some cocaine an were speeding along a dangerous road. They lost control and hit an oncoming car carrying a father and son. Everyone died. Only the other week some guy from my old school crashed and died whilst he was drunk. It's something I would never consider.

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In Australia when you buy drinks they come with numbers on the side indicating how many standard drinks' worth of alcohol they contain. If I've consumed 4 standard drinks worth of alcohol, I wait at least 5 hours before I get in my car.

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Surely I can't be in the minority when I say I've never driven drunk (including in the 'tipsy' state) before? Don't get me wrong I've gone out and had a couple of shandy's many a-times before, but I've always made sure that there's plenty of time for me to sober up in between (e.g. usually when I go to the cinema or for a meal with thee bird). I have two friends who have drunk drove in the last twelve months though. One served a three month ban which was then rescinded as he needed his vehicle for work, and another is currently half way through an eighteenth month ban.

Yeah, pretty sure that there's quite a few people who wait until they're "sober" but are still impaired. A lot of the time it just doesn't hit you until you try to do something like drive.

 

Anyway, I've driven drunk once or twice. Mostly one of those, "Yeah, I'm okay to drive," and then realize I'm not kind of things. However once it was an emergency situation... Personally I kind of laugh when people go, "Oh, you can't drive drunk at all! It's sooo risky!" That's just a load of sh*t. Of course you shouldn't do it, because it's a stupid risk to take... However, speaking in terms of an emergency, I'd drive to the hospital drunk a hundred times before I cough up $700 for an ambulance ride. Only time I had to there wasn't another sole out on the road anyway.

 

I'd say driving drunk is a little worse than driving high (on pot anyway). When you drive high you're kinda aware of the fact, and seriously freaked out about it. You wind up going 5 MPH below the speed limit and watching your side-view mirrors to make sure you're in the lanes right. It's not as if it makes you a better driver by any amount, but you definitely notice being a bad driver a whole lot more. I would never drive in serious traffic while high though.

 

With alcohol.. Man, you can either focus on going the speed limit, or staying in your lanes, and you're not gonna do that great a job of either one. I mean the other time than that emergency I drove drunk, I seriously considered pulling over to the shoulder. However, since I was on a highway with maybe two other cars on it, I decided it would probably be safer for me to just continue home--especially since if a cop saw me pulled over on the high-way, drunk, then the resulting DUI would definitely be a worse outcome of me getting home a little more drunk than I should be.

 

Driving under the influence is a dangerous thing, and I don't think people should treat it nonchalantly, but on the other hand I think it's also majorly blown out of proportion in a lot of aspects. Half the time when someone is arrested for a DUI the resulting stop had nothing to do with poor driving. Realistically, 60% of the people that leave a bar/restaurant at any given night are probably a little over the limit. This is why cops have the discretionary "driving under the influence" versus "driving while intoxicated".

 

The way I see it, DUI is generally someone that should have sobered up a little more before leaving, and when they thought they were "okay" to drive, they might not actually be. A lot of the time, people might be way over the legal limit, but because they don't appear impaired they're not charged with anything. It all kind of depends on if the officer does a field sobriety test or a breathalyzer ( most departments don't have portable breathalyzers though ), but in the real world a DUI fine is really nothing more than a "Sober up more before you get behind the wheel" reminder. Some people might think they're okay with just a drink, and then comes the day when they get the DUI that bursts that little bubble. I personally don't find it morally reprehensible unless it's a DWI charge... Because nine times out of ten with a DWI, that person had absolutely no business getting behind the wheel and they knew they didn't.

 

Driving Under the Influence vs. Driving While Intoxicated

 

The former, a not-so-innocent but understandable mistake that should come with a penalty. The latter, a conscious decision to endanger your life and the lives of others on the road with you that should come with severe punishment.

 

That's the way I see it anyway.

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I think it's HORRIBLE to drive drunk. I've lost friends who are "family men" because a STUPID drunk driver hit them! Imagine to lost a father, a brother, a friend, because an idiot drunk couldn't just take a taxi or a hitchhike? It's a total LACK of respect to drive drunk! My husband loved to drink (thanks God he doesn't drink anymore biggrin.gif ), but one thing he never did was drive drunk! Every week in Brazil appear news of a rich boy killing good citizens because he drove drunk!! And they are NEVER ARRESTED! If you like to drink, the problem is ours! BUT DON'T PUT OTHER LIVES IN RISK BECAUSE IT! I think alcohol is one of the worst drugs around there! angry.gifangry.gif

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Just as senseless as the shootings and crime here, gang violence even in Minneapolis killed a number of people, even a shooting not far from where I was!

 

A guy with 16 DUI was arrested the other day near Brainard, MN IIRC. Get 'em off the f**king road, take their car, their bike, NO WHEELS ...you can walk, Mo-fo!!

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I'm guilty as well as driving while under the influence of alcohol a few times. I've gotten lucky though, as 3 of my close friends have all gotten DWI's. I always try to make sure I have a way home if I'm drinking that doesn't involve me driving, and if I'm close enough, I'll walk with a couple buddies home. When it comes to driving high though, I do it all the time. I feel I'm much more aware of my surroundings, and as Sag said, you notice if your driving bad much easier then you ever would while drunk. I know it's not the smartest thing in the world to do, I even got pulled over last weekend driving back to school from home after thanksgiving break while high. I was going 78 in a 70, but the highway was empty and I was just on cruise control, enjoying the drive. I already had put eye drops in before I left and I didn't smell of smoke, so the officer didn't notice anything unusual. He just told me to watch my speed and let me on my way.

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Never done it myself, I've had about 4 friends who have died this way just because they or the other person driving has been over the limit. All of them died, so yeah I think its pretty retarded. If you really wanted to drink is it so difficult for you to hitch a ride with friends or family, stay over the place you are drinking at or even limit yourself to half a glass of whatever before you drive? I just really don't see the point. That goes for getting high in a car then driving around, sure peer pressure and all that sh*t but really is it worth it? I'd get more enjoyment out of being high sat outside or in someones house. I just don't see the rewards being better than the risks. But everyone's different.

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I've had friends that have gotten DUI's that have thankfully never got anybody hurt in the process. I've also had friends that have gotten hit by drunk drivers that have thankfully made full recoveries as of today. Other people aren't so lucky. This sh*t's serious, and it's f*cking stupid. People are sh*tty enough drivers nowadays as it is, you don't need to throw alcohol in the mix. If you're stupid enough to not figure out a way home without driving home drunk, you should be neither drinking nor driving in the first place. Drink at home if it's that important to you.

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Never have. Never will.

 

My family and I were heading down to our beach house when we saw an overturned car smashed beyond belief on the highway. It was so bad they had it curtained it off, but I caught a glimpse of it.

 

We get back home a week later to find out it was my next door neighbour's son (neighbour of 20 years) that was in that car.

He was killed on impact by a a drunk driver and flipped twice.

Left behind was his elderly (disabled) mother and 8 month pregnant fiancé.

 

The little one is about 3 now. An absolute doll. But I get a little sad for her thinking about the daddy she'll never know all because of a few beers.

 

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^Naomi, that kind of situations seem to happen most often of all, maybe because they are making most of the damage?

 

I was 3 or 4 years old, and I was in my dad's car passenger seat at late night around 2am. My father was convinced to get drunk by a "friend" (my father was pretty young back in the day) and he told my father to go back home by driving 30 miles himself, and wouldn't let us sleep at his place. The decision making of my father's at the moment was just on the same level as mine and I didn't know what to do at all.

 

So after 20 minutes driving my father was asleep on the wheel and driving into the wrong lane. I just can't figure why I didn't sleep, I was too young to be awake for 5 hours tops, but in night time?

So I nudged (kinda weakly, what you expect from a small kid, a perfect falcon punch?) and my father wonderfully wasn't angry and managed to wake up and gain control, but only to sleep again after 5 minutes and turn off the headlights. It was kinda hard for me to tell him the headlights are off because in darkness it's hard to see sign language (my father's deaf) and not to mention the fact he was drunk. He woke up again, and then I fell asleep and woke up while we were stopping next to our home door. The headlights were off, and when my mother asked why we are so late, I just told that everything is okay. Dunno why, but it doesn't matter, as she could figure everything out and getting rest of the details from me in the next day.

 

What shocked me more (I almost cried in the car when I thought my father wouldn't wake up) was that our family's close friends crashed their new BMW and one of them died. It happened on exactly the same road, just after me and my father got back home.

 

I will never drink when I see that I am able to drive in nearest 5 minutes or get a car in such time. My childhood trauma, it seems to be.

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I've never driven drunk or after drinking. Hell I haven't gotten drunk after I got my license. I have a cousin and a couple of people I knew that innocently died from other drink drivers. Shame on you people!

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I've driven high many times... not drunk though.

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Of course I have. Not in many many years through. I wouldn't even consider it now. Fortunately, I've always lived near some serious public transit and cabs.

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I've never EVER driven high or drunk, since I've never been. BUT I HAVE driven while tired, and it's just as scary!!!

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I have my licence, but no car. That said, I'd never drink and drive. I would never forgive myself if something happened and I hurt someone else because of my actions. Especially considering I was almost the victim of the drunk driver.

 

Several months ago, I was with my mom in town, and on our way back home from town, we encountered this car coming at us on a straight stretch of road. Thinking nothing of it, I didn't really worry, but then I see the guy start to veer off the road. He tried to correct it, but clipped the shoulder of the road too hard and lost control. His car came over onto our side of the road, and despite my mom pulling over as far as she could, the guy still smashed into the side of our car. As he passed us, I look behind to see the guy swerving all over the road, before finally flipping his car over four times and landing in the ditch upside down. I called 911, and went back and checked on the guy. Somehow the guy managed to crawl out of the mangled car with only a few scrapes and bruises, and he just reeked of alcohol. I was still on the line with the 911 operator at this point and I told him the paramedics and RCMP are on the way, and upon me telling him this he just runs into the woods. The paramedics, fire department, and RCMP showed up several minutes later and took our statements and all that. Later that night the RCMP finally caught the guy and he admitted to drinking and driving. Was a pretty scary situation to say the least.

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