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GTA Map Comparisons


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Man, I loved the "dead spaces" in San Andreas. It was awesome listening to K-Dust or K-Rose and just driving around in the middle of nowhere.

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Lol ya GTA III's map was SOOO  small, but honestly, I never noticed. I just loved that game, Vice City too, I never had an excuse to complain about the map size.

 

Edit - As for San Andreas, I honestly thought they included WAY too much 'dead space'

The dead space was a breath of fresh air in my opinion. We went from lame general buildings to full forests and deserts. To each their own smile.gif

 

As for the map sizes, GTA 3 was definitely a revolution, but it's neat to see Rockstar progress so much in 2 years (when VC was released)

I HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOU THEIRE IT WAS NICE TO GET AWAY AND DRIVE TO THE COUNTRY SIDE I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE RETURN AND THE VASED AMOUNT OF SPACE TO DRIVE THROUGH BUT ALONG WITH THAT THE SOUNDTRACK HAS TO BE ON POINT WHILE DRIVING IN THE AREA

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Does anybody know exactly how many times bigger V will be than IV? Like, did Rockstar ever comment on that officially?

No, the only thing they said is that it's going to be there biggest map yet...which means bigger than RDR and that was bigger than IV, so odds are its going to be huge.

Of course, let's not disappoint ourselves. I'm quite sure they mean biggest in terms of ambition- the same meaning Bethesda used when saying that Skyrim was their biggest Elder Scrolls game yet. Skyrim isn't the largest gameworld in the Elder Scroll series by any stretch of the imagination, and is in fact not much bigger than its predecessor in Oblivion. However, it is the most ambitious in terms of the amount of hand-crafted content (earlier games like Arena and Daggerfall actually had more stuff, but much of it was procedurally generated). I think they're saying it will be their most heavily detailed world, and this is obvious in the trailer.

It will also probably be quite large, but I don't think we should expect it to be larger than RDR's world.

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I don't think R* mentioned how big the map was going to be, I think they said the game itself was going to be the most ambitious. But I wouldn't be surprised if it will be the biggest map. A mix of the variety and scale of SA and the detail and complexity of IV(and RDR). That combination is tantalizing. smile.gif

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Red Dead Redemption is easily 2x bigger than San Andreas,

Really? I thought it was already disproven that it isn't so. Stop making things up.

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You can't compare the map sizes this way, all you did was posting a picture of the in game map, if you understand what i mean.

In order to compare them, you'll need to know exactly how broad the maps are, measured in kilometers or miles, then scale the map up or down.

You just can't compare two pictures of maps, since they all have different sizes.

 

Kind of like what they did here:

http://static02.mediaite.com/geekosystem/u...Game-Worlds.jpg

Wait a minuite, so why have people been thinking GTA will need to be on 2 disks because of the map when Just Cause 2 is that big and fits on one disk.

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I never owned GTA 3 and I certainly never realised there was land mass at the top.

I thought they were all islands surrounded entirely by water.

 

I have GTA 1,2, London.

Played GTA 3 with friends.

Then owned VC, SA, and IV.

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Red Dead Redemption is easily 2x bigger than San Andreas,

Really? I thought it was already disproven that it isn't so. Stop making things up.

Huh I hadn't seen that interesting, I always thought it was bigger than SA, hmm I guess I was wrong. So wouldn't that mean that IV was bigger than RDR since it was bigger than SA, or at least so I've heard. (SA was something like 14 sq Miles and IV was 16 I belive)

 

@Mr. Darko Good point, they could be talking about scope and detail, and not about actual size. So I guess we'll see in the future.

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You can't compare the map sizes this way, all you did was posting a picture of the in game map, if you understand what i mean.

In order to compare them, you'll need to know exactly how broad the maps are, measured in kilometers or miles, then scale the map up or down.

You just can't compare two pictures of maps, since they all have different sizes.

 

Kind of like what they did here:

http://static02.mediaite.com/geekosystem/u...Game-Worlds.jpg

Wait a minuite, so why have people been thinking GTA will need to be on 2 disks because of the map when Just Cause 2 is that big and fits on one disk.

That's simple, Just Cause 2 was more of just a giant landmass than anything, not many detailed cities and areas. Whereas GTA is (especially IV) is very dense, it packs so much into one city and assuming V is going to be bigger, denser and will feature way more to do, people assume it'll be two disks. I doubt it personally because we've come so far with compression technology that I think it'll fit.

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As far as dead space, I loved that about GTA SA. You had the cities and then in between you had plenty of road and air to explore.

Even though it could be classed as "Dead Space" it was awesome, made it that much more epic.

 

I think if the whole map was a city and just busy everywhere, it'd get annoying.

 

I like how SA did it, fingers crossed GTA V had something like that it the outskirts of LS.

 

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I wonder if GTA5 is going be like islands like other gtas or it just going to be land mass with rivers and mountains

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Ok, "dead space" means country side (and desert, mountains). In that case bring on the dead space in V because more that half of it will be non-urban.

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if SA had dead space then what do u class RDR as? Lol that is huge but is basically all dead space and iv said before that if RDR was a GTA map ie had cars then it wouldnt feel anywhere near as big as it seems SA is the best map imo by far I loved the desert and some of the hillbilly towns but I thought the forest was a bit too boring

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i think its gonna be bigger than this

Just. Jesus Christ.

 

I just CANNOT wrap my mind around this.

 

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Red Dead Redemption is easily 2x bigger than San Andreas,

Really? I thought it was already disproven that it isn't so. Stop making things up.

Huh I hadn't seen that interesting, I always thought it was bigger than SA, hmm I guess I was wrong. So wouldn't that mean that IV was bigger than RDR since it was bigger than SA, or at least so I've heard. (SA was something like 14 sq Miles and IV was 16 I belive)

 

@Mr. Darko Good point, they could be talking about scope and detail, and not about actual size. So I guess we'll see in the future.

Since the Red Dead forum is currently broken, the short version of what I found is that Red Dead Redemption (the area you can see in the game) is about equal to all the rural countryside in San Andreas. GTA IV is about equal to all the cities in San Andreas combined (each island unlock in GTA IV is equal to one city in GTA SA, without countryside).

 

In other words, San Andreas is the size of GTA IV and Red Dead Redemption put together. (However, San Andreas is square and Red Dead is stretched out, so you can have longer travel distances in Red Dead.) San Andreas is the biggest map Rockstar has ever done and it's hard to match it because of the higher level of detail today. It apparently takes twice as long to make a game now as it did for the PS2.

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Figured I'd add a little more in-depth for comparison. These aren't completely exact, I just used the street-width as a guide.

 

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/4294/3tosa.jpg

3 to SA

 

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5278/vctosa.jpg

VC to SA

 

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/6748/ivtosa.jpg

IV to SA

 

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/7985/alla.jpg

All of them together

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Figured I'd add a little more in-depth for comparison. These aren't completely exact, I just used the street-width as a guide.

 

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/4294/3tosa.jpg

3 to SA

 

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5278/vctosa.jpg

VC to SA

 

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/6748/ivtosa.jpg

IV to SA

 

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/7985/alla.jpg

All of them together

Wow. If those are the right dimensions then Bravo. Easyist comparisons I've seen.

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Algonquin Assassin
I think if the whole map was a city and just busy everywhere, it'd get annoying.

 

So what does this say about GTA 1, London 61/69, GTA II, GTA III, GTAA, VC, LCS, VCS, GTA IV (EFLC) and CTW?

 

City based maps have been apart of GTA since day 1, so I don't know why anyone would find it annoying to be in a city.

 

 

if SA had dead space then what do u class RDR as? Lol that is huge but is basically all dead space and iv said before that if RDR was a GTA map ie had cars then it wouldnt feel anywhere near as big as it seems SA is the best map imo by far I loved the desert and some of the hillbilly towns but I thought the forest was a bit too boring

 

I think what people mean by "dead space" isn't so much the geographical areas themselves, but what was contained in them so comparing RDR to SA in this regards is apples to oranges. There were times in SA I went back to the city, because it was so boring out in the wilderness. It felt as dead as a door knob.

 

RDR had so much more life with wild animals and random occurances.

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Figured I'd add a little more in-depth for comparison. These aren't completely exact, I just used the street-width as a guide.

 

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/4294/3tosa.jpg

3 to SA

 

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5278/vctosa.jpg

VC to SA

 

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/6748/ivtosa.jpg

IV to SA

 

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/7985/alla.jpg

All of them together

Great comparison dude!

 

could you do one for RDR Vs SA?

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could you do one for RDR Vs SA?

it'd be a bit hard to compare streets with dirt tracks (which is the basis of the size comparison)

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Ahaha at GTA III's map. When I actually play the game it seems big then after seeing that picture im like woah I don't believe it. Apparently,GTA V's map will be bigger than RDR's..

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could you do one for RDR Vs SA?

it'd be a bit hard to compare streets with dirt tracks (which is the basis of the size comparison)

Use the streets of blackwater, they're pretty much the same compared to GTAs streets.

 

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I made a SA RDR map comparison not that long ago. When I was playing SA and I noticed noticed that the average trails(most of the ones in red county) were about the same size as the main horse trails(the ones that fit two horses) in RDR so I used those instead of roads. This is what I came up when used that to adjust the maps:http://oi44.tinypic.com/4qsfud.jpg

 

Maybe not exact but i feel it's bit more fair of a comparison than certain others.

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I don't think people give the IV map credit. They make it out as if it's tiny. It's actually pretty huge if you think about it.

 

I think it would be good to have about 1.5X the urban area plus country side. That kind of map would keep me entertained for years. If you think about it, LA would be a lot easier than New York to make large. NY is a much more vertical city compared to the skyline of Los Angeles, so it safe to say, that in it's self would make the map a little bit bigger.

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SA is bigger because of its enormous countryside and mountain which is useless i was pissed when i had to trave 5645614984 days to get a mission in SA

Weren't you pissed when you had to travel pretty much the same distances in GTA IV, but slower? I don't get this hate for open spaces

in IV we had gps which pointed out route and it was much more interesting to travel in the city

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That made me think of the sizes of previous GTA Games. I looked them all up for you and made a map of it. Here are the sizes (Source: Wikipedia & IGN):

 

Grand Theft Auto: Vice City = 3,5 Square Miles

Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas = 13,9 Square Miles

Grand Theft Auto: IV = 16 Square Miles

Red Dead Redemption = 28 Square Miles

 

LINK TO THE MAP

 

So that would make that Grand Theft Auto: V will be bigger then RDR, which is 28 Square Miles, giving lots of space to merge Vice City with San Andreas!

 

What are your thoughts about this?

 

I copied this text from here.

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