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All non related lol. Common sense dictates that most of those are A.I peds...............................

Dude, there is an uncanny resemblance between at least a few of the recurring characters, who appear to have some significance as each shot looks like an in-game mission cutscene. Why are the same handful of characters shown together all the time?

 

Seriously, it's just a theory with a few actual visual CLUES to support it (unlike this random "wall of text" garbage theories...). I've already said that I'll be the first person to admit that I'm wrong in the event that I am, I'm just speculating on a GTA forum - that's why we're here right? If all you want is official news, ditch the forums and go to rockstargames.com/v and wait there for 6 months.

 

Seriously guys, grow up, it makes me sick that you're all happy to put up with 200+ pages of an image of f*cking Red Dead Redemption photoshopped with a road going through it (Genesis)... but here I am bringing something new to the table with actual references to the official trailer, and I'm being shot down for it.

 

I don't have "too much time on my hands" either, go and compose music to record a full orchestra for a film at f*cking Trackdown at Fox Studios Australia, and then come back to me before you post such garbage. Have fun with your boring supermarket nightfill jobs.

 

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This is not evidence. You just posted pictures of 4 different black pedestrians with circles drawn over them in MS Paint claiming they're a protagonist.

 

There is no way, no way there will be more than one protag. It is such a stupid flawed idea.. GTA games are all about the connection between you and the character. Say we really like one of the characters, then next thing we know its times up and we now have to play as a completely different person.. I'm willing to bet people won't even remember a main characters name after playing if there is multiple protagonists. Stupid, stupid, god awful idea.

 

It worked after the ending of a certain Western video game because it made sense and was the story. Why would GTAV's story keep switching up like the player has an extreme case of ADHD and needs constant switch ups in action and drama to keep their attention. Ridiculous and there is no way. One character. One character for us to immerse ourselves into and have a connection with. One.

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This is not evidence. You just posted pictures of 4 different black pedestrians with circles drawn over them in MS Paint claiming they're a protagonist.

 

There is no way, no way there will be more than one protag. It is such a stupid flawed idea.. GTA games are all about the connection between you and the character. Say we really like one of the characters, then next thing we know its times up and we now have to play as a completely different person.. I'm willing to bet people won't even remember a main characters name after playing if there is multiple protagonists. Stupid, stupid, god awful idea.

 

It worked after the ending of a certain Western video game because it made sense and was the story. Why would GTAV's story keep switching up like the player has an extreme case of ADHD and needs constant switch ups in action and drama  to keep their attention. Ridiculous and there is no way. One character. One character for us to immerse ourselves into and have a connection with. One.

Have you ever played Resident Evil? Somebody mentioned before, it could be that you choose which gang to play the game as and this would reflect who you are as the protagonist... I don't see it happening as something you just think "hey i might just hit this button here and magically turn into a hispanic dude!". You choose the character from the start, and play all the way to the end. The only other way I see it happening is that you don't choose to change characters, it just happens when you get to a certain point in the game.

 

Think like a game developer, and a storyteller... suicidal.gif

 

PS. Pixelmator, not MS Paint. I'm on a mac - microsoft is for porn and viruses icon14.gif

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Putting it that way, I'd have no problem choosing from the start. That could be interesting. It's the whole "Pulp Fiction intertwining stories 5 main characters" aspect that makes me want to barf when I hear the words multiple protagonists. Having that option would certainly increase replay value. But would it make R* sacrifice a good story by having 4 other stories to focus on at the same time? Would they all be kind of short, DLC type stories? I'd still rather them focus on one character, one story. It's like families with 4 kids as opposed to ones with one child that gets spoiled and 100% attention. GTAV needs to be one story.

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Yeah, I definitely see what you mean. I guess it means we'd have to start the game all over again 4 or however many times in order to get every angle of the story (and maybe all unlockable features/vehicles or something). It would be interesting enough for those who want to see a different angle of the story, but being able to play through an entire storyline with the one character at the same time to go hand in hand with what you're saying...

 

I'd hate to wave the Saints Row flag around, but the one thing about Saints Row that doesn't quite grab me is that I feel like I have a loss of identity because I'm pressured to create my own character from the ground up. It's nice to be put in the shoes of a specific character and really get to understand them and slowly start to feel like you are a part of them somehow.

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This is a good topic but why the hell is this guy suggesting black people all look alike mercie_blink.gif . But anyway i think the older white guy is the protagonist because he is narrating the trailer and he is seen most time throughout the trailer.

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So you're saying we play as every pedestrian? dozingoff.gif

 

I thought the trailer just emphasized how dynamic the peds are. They can do activities, acknowledge each other, commit crimes. The back guy running away from the cops could just be a guy for a cutscene but maybe Rockstar has finally allowed for pedestrains to attain high wanted levels. I don't see why they wouldn't.

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Everyone and everything is evidence in the trailer, and the game stills, so NO, you don't actually have any clues or hints in this thread. Odd thing is, they do show a lotta blue and red cars. DAMN!

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the blue/car thing you just mentioned is something ive pointed to in my OP, yet you say I have no clues or hints...

 

I didnt realise forum members were supposed to all be Rockstar insiders. Seriously, nobody knows anything for sure, its just a discussion, keyword 'theory', so everybody, stop being bitter about everything and anything on here. Like i said, if i posted another fake map yous would have loved that! But a trailer analysis looked down on...

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There is a lot of close-mindedness and negative attitudes going on in this thread. The OP never established anything as "proof"; just theories open for discussion. So why does everyone go about trying to dismiss them entirely? Afterall the forums are based on discussion, and I think this is an interesting subject to discuss. I agree parts of the OPs assumptions are a bit far off. Especially speculations regarding relatives of ned luke, and that about every person in the trailer could be one of the protags. Still a lot of it was enlighting and intersting to me.

 

The only major pre-announcement rumors that I can think about is the possibility of a Los Santos setting, and the possibility of a playing as multible characters. Normally I have little to no faith in rumors, but the first one turned out to be true, and the second one - judging on the trailer - seems more than plausable. Face it, when have R* ever released a GTA debut trailer where there have been any doubts regarding who the protagonist is going to be? This trailer shows (presumably) in game footage of multible characters. Why this all of the sudden? Allthough, it is little to go on, just the change in the "trailer formula" to me, points to the possibility of several playable characters.

 

And to those of you who regard multiple protagonists as an impossibility; try to be a bit open minded. Why does this have to put limitations on the gameplay? IMO it could make it more interesting.

 

 

 

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Why is everyone being so picky? Does everyone have their period at the same time of the month or something? This guy had a theory, that had some flaws (Every black guy being the same), it did bring up some points. The blue and red cars thing is pretty significant in my opinion. They both seem to be a similar kind of car too. I presume the blue car has a convertible hardtop roof just like the red one.

 

The jeep could be a hint too. As for the "They probably have only put a few peds in" theory, it's flawed. I don't think Rockstar would do that deliberately. Why wouldn't they have that sort of thing finished before they release a trailer?

 

It would be kind of interesting to see multiple protagonists. I just hope they do it right. It could be annoying having really short stories for characters. But if they all have at least 70+ missions, I'd be fine with it. Hell 50+ missions would do. Of course, this would amount to really large file sizes, but Rockstar did make it clear the game is quite ambitious.

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It's like the movie "A beautiful mind".

You're seeing things and put them together like big puzzle but in the end it aint there.

But I like how you keep things fresh, so well done icon14.gif

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GTA games are all about the connection between you and the character.

Hm, when I read the official announcement info from R*, it says the game"focuses on the pursuit of the almighty dollar"

 

I think "focuses" is the important word here.

Many varying stories can be told about the pusrsuit of the $.

Different people with different backgrounds go different ways of chasing the luck.

So this could all imply that you experience that pursuit from different angles.

 

Remember: the announcement says also: "a bold new direction in open-world freedom, storytelling, mission-based gameplay..."

 

I have the strong feeling, that those lines want to tell us something... monocle.gif

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So you're saying we play as every pedestrian? dozingoff.gif

 

I thought the trailer just emphasized how dynamic the peds are. They can do activities, acknowledge each other, commit crimes. The back guy running away from the cops could just be a guy for a cutscene but maybe Rockstar has finally allowed for pedestrains to attain high wanted levels. I don't see why they wouldn't.

I really don't know why R* didn't have ai police & criminals engaged in random gun battles & car pursuits, which don't involve you. I know it can happen but it is such a rare occurrence & usually is a result of your presence.

 

I want to see criminals committing crimes ranging from car theft, to bank heists. You can either stand back & just observe, call the police or even kill them & steal their loot.

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So you're saying we play as every pedestrian? dozingoff.gif

 

I thought the trailer just emphasized how dynamic the peds are. They can do activities, acknowledge each other, commit crimes. The back guy running away from the cops could just be a guy for a cutscene but maybe Rockstar has finally allowed for pedestrains to attain high wanted levels. I don't see why they wouldn't.

I really don't know why R* didn't have ai police & criminals engaged in random gun battles & car pursuits, which don't involve you. I know it can happen but it is such a rare occurrence & usually is a result of your presence.

 

I want to see criminals committing crimes ranging from car theft, to bank heists. You can either stand back & just observe, call the police or even kill them & steal their loot.

Their were events like that in RDR. A cargo wagon would be getting robbed and you could ignore it , save the wagon , or help the bandits. I wouldn't be surprised to see those ambient events in a modern form make a return. Muggings , kidnappings , gangs jumping people etc.

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OK, This is why I have chosen to finally believe that there will more than likely be multiple protagonists in GTA V.

 

Rumours, they have a knack of being true recently.

 

Remember a while back there were rumours of a Halo Combat Evolved HD remake? True.

Mass Effect 3 was rumoured to be introducing some form of Multiplayer. True.

Mass Effect 3 making use of Kinect. True.

The next GTA having a setting of Los Angeles / Los Santos. True

 

I know there are only 4 examples & even if there were 1000 it still would'n mean this one is true, but I just feel like what's the big deal? Why wouldn't it be true? I mean it could so easily be true or false, & with those rumours that I mentioned & how they eventually became true, I am just ready to believe that there will be multiple protagonists in GTA V because of how these things have proven to be correct.

 

This is just my opinion & I am sharing it with you guys.

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Look at the level of detail of the supposed other protags and the older gentleman. There is just no way. Imagine the Albino looking dweeb in the red car in a cut scene. Gross. They're all just side characters besides the older guy. They're important side characters, but not protagonists. Most of these scenes, such as the lady walking in front of the red car, are not cut scenes, but scripted gameplay made just for the trailer. They just feature characters you'll meet in the game.

 

 

On a side note, I really wonder why R* chose to not make it completely obvious to everyone who the protag is.

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you can't just pick every black guy out and call them the same person.

lol. pretty much.

 

You pointed out every single black person in the trailer and assumed they were all either one of two possible different black guys.

 

Im with you on the blue/red car thing. thats it though

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Heads up: Not everyone in the trailer is a protagonist, and not every black guy in the trailer is the same person, or even same two people.

Really nothing to be added. I thought the discussion about who's Hispanic and who's black was pretty mind dulling already, but that every black guy shown in the trailer is supposed to be the same guy, no matter how different we notice some of them look, or how we totally can't judge who's who because it's undetailed and not up close.. I think many of you need to hang out with non-Caucasians, or better, non-Aryans from time to time.

 

What I am agreeing with, though, is how that blue car (at times visibly including the midde aged gray haired man) appears a lot. I only noticed how often it drives by somewhere after watching the trailer multiple times.

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Not exactally sure what to make of this, you might be right or those may just be the protag's friends/enemies.

 

And some black people really do look alike, just like a lot of white people and asian people look alike. It doesnt necessarily have to do with skin color, some peoples features are just mistakable to some people. Its a petpeve of mine when people play the race card, white black or whatever we all bleed the same.

 

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Heads up: Not everyone in the trailer is a protagonist, and not every black guy in the trailer is the same person, or even same two people.

Really nothing to be added. I thought the discussion about who's Hispanic and who's black was pretty mind dulling already, but that every black guy shown in the trailer is supposed to be the same guy, no matter how different we notice some of them look, or how we totally can't judge who's who because it's undetailed and not up close.. I think many of you need to hang out with non-Caucasians, or better, non-Aryans from time to time.

 

What I am agreeing with, though, is how that blue car (at times visibly including the midde aged gray haired man) appears a lot. I only noticed how often it drives by somewhere after watching the trailer multiple times.

Agreed with the both of you. Frankly, I think there's only one protag and he's the older white gentleman.

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I think they felt every character that was the center of action, didn't matter their race or gender, that they played a key part in GTA V!!

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- Its a petpeve of mine when people play the race card, white black or whatever we all bleed the same.

 

One day the power of love will overcome the love of power and the world will be at peace.

AMEN. I'm of the same mind-frame

 

The idea is comparable to making the setting and story compelling, unveiling it certainly has no bearing on the complete picture, the complete premise. You'll have to settle yourself that more must be shown from the game, and it's not going to happen today.

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I don't have "too much time on my hands" either, go and compose music to record a full orchestra for a film at f*cking Trackdown at Fox Studios Australia, and then come back to me before you post such garbage. Have fun with your boring supermarket nightfill jobs.

Actually, Mr Record-Button-On-A-Soundboard, im a police officer in Houston, Texas. You know, a socially NECESSARY profession. Now I understand you put alot of work into your theory and your presentation, but there is no need to make personal attacks when people start punching holes in it.

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And some black people really do look alike, just like a lot of white people and asian people look alike. It doesnt necessarily have to do with skin color, some peoples features are just mistakable to some people. Its a petpeve of mine when people play the race card, white black or whatever we all bleed the same.

It's not about playing the race card. It's very obvious that some of black people in the trailer he compared don't look very similar. As a black guy it gets annoying to here things like that. I don't think the OP is a racist or am I offended by what he posted. I just wish he focused a little more on the facial structures of the people he was comparing to notice that they aren't the same person.

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leik oh em jeez!

 

Not exactally sure what to make of this, you might be right or those may just be the protag's friends/enemies.

 

And some black people really do look alike, just like a lot of white people and asian people look alike. It doesnt necessarily have to do with skin color, some peoples features are just mistakable to some people. Its a petpeve of mine when people play the race card, white black or whatever we all bleed the same.

 

One day the power of love will overcome the love of power and the world will be at peace.

Please cut the hippie world peace we're all the same bullsh*t. This topic has nothing to do with people "playing the race card", the love of power, or war. The only part of your post that pertains at all to the toic at hand is the first sentence, which doesn't even add anything to the topic. The people the OP is saying are the same, are obviously not. No one here said it's impossible for people to look alike, it was just said that these specific characters in this game don't look enough alike to be the same person.

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