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So, after having watched this film for like the 50th time now, it still leaves me questioning a few of the things that happen in the film. I tried searching the net for answers, but all I can find is people debating all the stuff that goes on, and no solid answers of any sort.

 

* Obviously this is going to contain spoilers, but due to the age of the film, I'm not covering this topic in black boxes, so just don't read on if you haven't watched it yet. *

 

I feel stupid asking some of these questions, but ah well, you never know until you ask. tounge.gif

 

First of all, we see that the engine of the plane crashes into the house, and fortunately Donnie is out sleepwalking somewhere when this incident happens, thus saving his life. Then at the end of the film, this incident 'happens again', but this time Donnie is in his bed, thus killing himself when the engine crashes into the house. Now, my understanding is that the engine went through a portal of some kind, thus travelling back in time, but how does Donnie himself travel back in time? Maybe I'm misunderstanding this, so help please?

 

I also believe that the Fire & Water parts of the film have elements of importance, but how does flooding the school help in any way? I can only think it's because, due to the flooding of the school, he goes on to meet Gretchen?

 

Why will Prof. Kenneth lose his job if he talks to Donnie about time travel?

 

And the last thing at the moment is, at the end we see Jim crying (why?), and Frank holding his eye, yet when Gretchen turns up on scene, she knows nothing of of the Darko family or anything...

 

May have some more as this topic goes on, but that's it for now. Don't be flaming me if these questions are easy to understand.

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The Mod's will probably lock this, mate. There's a topic already made for Donnie Darko, which you can find here. Just copy and paste your post there, and I'm sure the Mod's will be happy. Try to use the search bar before posting topics about popular movies. It's annoying, but just check page 1-5, and if it's not there, it's probably not been made. icon14.gif

 

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That topics from 2007, so don't want to bump it, thank you. dozingoff.gif

 

And yes, WM answered it slightly in the other topic, but I need further explanations please.

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I never really understood the ending of the movie either, so i'd like some explanation from an expert as well.(someone who watched it).

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So, after having watched this film for like the 50th time now, it still leaves me questioning a few of the things that happen in the film. I tried searching the net for answers, but all I can find is people debating all the stuff that goes on, and no solid answers of any sort.

 

* Obviously this is going to contain spoilers, but due to the age of the film, I'm not covering this topic in black boxes, so just don't read on if you haven't watched it yet. *

 

I feel stupid asking some of these questions, but ah well, you never know until you ask. tounge.gif

 

First of all, we see that the engine of the plane crashes into the house, and fortunately Donnie is out sleepwalking somewhere when this incident happens, thus saving his life. Then at the end of the film, this incident 'happens again', but this time Donnie is in his bed, thus killing himself when the engine crashes into the house. Now, my understanding is that the engine went through a portal of some kind, thus travelling back in time, but how does Donnie himself travel back in time? Maybe I'm misunderstanding this, so help please?

 

I also believe that the Fire & Water parts of the film have elements of importance, but how does flooding the school help in any way? I can only think it's because, due to the flooding of the school, he goes on to meet Gretchen?

 

Why will Prof. Kenneth lose his job if he talks to Donnie about time travel?

 

And the last thing at the moment is, at the end we see Jim crying (why?), and Frank holding his eye, yet when Gretchen turns up on scene, she knows nothing of of the Darko family or anything...

 

May have some more as this topic goes on, but that's it for now. Don't be flaming me if these questions are easy to understand.

Have you read the book that Roberta Sparrow wrote? It's available on some DVD copies of the film but I expect you can find it on the internet somewhere. Anyway, it explains the thing about Frank holding his eye and Swayze crying. (The book isn't really a book. It's only a few pages long so don't balk at having to actually read a book)

 

I'm not sure about the Professor Kenneth thing but I've always assumed that there's some kind of rule against teachers getting too much into religion and questioning God, blasphemy or something. I don't know...perhaps Donnie's school has some kind of rule against that. I'm probably completely wrong about that though tounge.gif

 

 

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I think the answer to the first question is that everything goes back in time, Donnie sacrifices himself to prevent the apocalypse. I think he learned how from frank after asking him in the cinema, as for the others I have no idea about, although the fire is significant as it exposes the inspirational speaker's (whose name i can't remember) "kiddie porn" basement.

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Exactly what I just read after you mentioned about the book being online. Had I being aware of this book before, some of these questions would have been answered.

 

Still unsure on why Gretchen doesn't have any 'memory' of what 'happened'. The book states that Frank and Gretchen are both Manipulated Dead, so surely she should have some knowledge of who Donnie is at the end of the film, since Frank does.

 

Another thing. Every event in the film leads to another thing due to the nature of the universe, but how is it known that Sparkle Motion will go on to win the event? If they had lost, the rest of the film wouldn't have been possible.

 

(seems I was right about the flooding leading to the meeting of Gretchen....knew it was of some importance due to the English lesson.)

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Ah, starting to really understand it all now, thanks.

 

Gretchen is still baffling me though, since she is a Manipulated Dead, but knows nothing of the events that are occurring, or are about to occur. Surely her and Frank are in the same boat, and should both be guiding Donnie?

 

And what role does Charita play in this?

 

Why does Donnie's therapist urgently need to see Donnie when the party is happening?

 

Do any of the versions of the film show what happens to Jim (as in his suicide), or is this just explained online?

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God damn, i really have the urge to re-watch this movie. As much as i find it creepy and disturbing at some points, i gotta re-watch.

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I think the answer to the first question is that everything goes back in time, Donnie sacrifices himself to prevent the apocalypse. I think he learned how from frank after asking him in the cinema, as for the others I have no idea about, although the fire is significant as it exposes the inspirational speaker's (whose name i can't remember) "kiddie porn" basement.

Ahh yes, so went and burned down his house when the rabbit told him to do so at the movie theater.

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I think the answer to the first question is that everything goes back in time, Donnie sacrifices himself to prevent the apocalypse. I think he learned how from frank after asking him in the cinema, as for the others I have no idea about, although the fire is significant as it exposes the inspirational speaker's (whose name i can't remember) "kiddie porn" basement.

Ahh yes, so went and burned down his house when the rabbit told him to do so at the movie theater.

Frank doesn't tell Donnie to burn the house down, but 'manipulates' Donnie into doing it.

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this movie is just one big mind f*ck , going to check these links provided.. might finally be able to figure out the ending...RIP Patrick Swayze.

 

nervous.gif holy f*cking sh*t that site just gave me a fright, just reading in silence, and all I hear from the speaker is "Wake up"

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The therapist was actually trying to call Donnie's parents, most likely to discuss the fact he just admitted he burned down Jim Cunningham's house. No versions of the film show Jim's suicide.

 

If I remember correctly the Manipulated Living and Dead only exist to further Donnie's quest into reverting the Tangent Universe (occuring after he isn't killed by the plane engine) back to normal, restoring order within the universe.

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If I remember correctly the Manipulated Living and Dead only exist to further Donnie's quest into reverting the Tangent Universe (occuring after he isn't killed by the plane engine) back to normal, restoring order within the universe.

That's the thing though. Both Frank & Gretchen die in the TU (?), yet only Frank is able to help Donnie, whilst Gretchen seems oblivious to it all.

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this film makes me feel the way I did when I first watched it even now. theres no way of explaining everything. I heard that it was something to do with time travel and parallel universes. so yeah, its very complex

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If I remember correctly the Manipulated Living and Dead only exist to further Donnie's quest into reverting the Tangent Universe (occuring after he isn't killed by the plane engine) back to normal, restoring order within the universe.

That's the thing though. Both Frank & Gretchen die in the TU (?), yet only Frank is able to help Donnie, whilst Gretchen seems oblivious to it all.

Frank knowingly helps Donnie, Gretchen unknowingly helps Donnie. They both manipulate him into saving the world though.

 

 

holy f*cking sh*t that site just gave me a fright, just reading in silence, and all I hear from the speaker is "Wake up"
yeah that made me jump too... mainly because my speakers were on max.
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I only just saw this film last week after noticing the good reviews it had. First of all, I did like it, and thought it had a great soundtrack. I'm not sure I quite understood it though. I really don't know what to think of it. Considering all the different theories I've seen, plus the seemingly endless possibilities suggested in the film, I'd say there isn't mean to be a concrete explanation as to what happened.

 

I'll offer a bit more once I've seen it again and have a better idea smile.gif

 

 

 

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I'd say there isn't mean to be a concrete explanation as to what happened.

 

Could swear I saw it stated that even the people behind the film have never given a full explanation to everything that goes on in the film.

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