[WIP] IV:SA³ 'World Enhancement'

[EncryptedReality]

A nice Easter Egg would be to add the TV's back in and have it showing the old San Andreas trailers.

Possible, but are you interested to help out?

 

[Performer]

It would be very helpfully to get, the startup.sco source code, from the BETA 2! Cause i want contnue from there

 

And just for the record: The sco posibillites are still very limited. Just because there is a high level compiler, doesn't this mean that all sco researsch is complete. Even scm from san andreas ist not fully resaerched... In sco standart functions are missing, like path creating for actors... Mission coding and cutscene would be very hard under this circumstances!

Edited February 21, 2012 by Performer

[Exxon]

The Dropbox for IV:SA Beta3 programming has been launched.

PM me or Blaster for access

I've been a beta tester for beta #1 and #2, can I also be a tester for beta #3?

[Performer]

 

I've been a beta tester for beta #1 and #2, can I also be a tester for beta #3?

 

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[Exxon]

Aahhh

[D T]

 

Can somebody repost that SRT3 tutorial Blaster made for Beta 1? I can't find it.

Because we applied shaders in LS roads it will not work.

Ofcourse it could work on SF and LV.

Is there any simple way of working around this? I appreciate the work you've done with the LS roads in beta2, but I'd prefer to use SRT3 textures for videos and screenshots. I've tried installing beta1 again but it seems you guys have done something to prevent the installation of older versions because it keeps redirecting me to the gtaivsa website.

Yes, we did that on purpose, because it was a bad beta.

 

Till blitz allows me to make a srt version, there is nothing i can do.

Ah, ok. Thanks anyway.

 

I'm going to try installing it on beta2 just for the SF and LV textures then. Is there anything I need to do differently for installation, or is it the same as beta1?

[EverLost123]

-BLITZ- already said here , its not 100% his fault, dont blame him completely , there are a part of the story that you guys dont know.

[yurban]

SCO Programmers, we need you! Join us today, and make IV:SA the mod of the year

 

The Dropbox for IV:SA Beta3 programming has been launched.

 

PM me or Blaster for access

Why just programmers? I think you need more people, make free inviting to db (copy) and they will come to you.

[_CP_]

Yeah, of course, and later they will steal files and upload it here.

Bad idea.

[ShakingASS]

Oh damn thought was beta testing my bad Blaster_nl if you got the pm.

[Flitskikker]

TXD2OTD has been updated, which is required to use the above tutorial with the newest OpenIV:

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=484032

[Rob.Zombie]

 

Yes and on my end even the eflc version's gta.dat was empty. And also R* doesn't check files anymore, simply if you mod, you'll be put on the modders server (where like 90% of the people are), also dw about spawning points, Idc if it spawns me in the water, I'll just use airbreak to go to the map.

Anyway yes please pack your files in a winrar, if you tested it and it works for you (without using the mod). I'd really appreciate it.

So what do you say?

Well, so can we get a map mod only version? One that works?

[nkjellman]

Yes and on my end even the eflc version's gta.dat was empty. And also R* doesn't check files anymore, simply if you mod, you'll be put on the modders server (where like 90% of the people are), also dw about spawning points, Idc if it spawns me in the water, I'll just use airbreak to go to the map.

Anyway yes please pack your files in a winrar, if you tested it and it works for you (without using the mod). I'd really appreciate it.

So what do you say?

Well, so can we get a map mod only version? One that works?

If you wan't map mod only, I could see us doing it when boundries are hackable and we can place it next to LC. I'm sure many people would love to do that.

[ShakingASS]

Wrong 3Ddoomer said something about it's possible.

[EncryptedReality]

Doomer said paths are impossible outside of bounds' limits, but maps can be placed.

 

However, our tests indicate otherwise; no matter how you place the map object(s) outside the 6000x6000 zone the engine will just not render it, i am not sure about collision though but theoretically it probably won't work neither.

 

If an detour for this occurs, paths can be inserted by using external scripts

Edited February 22, 2012 by GTARandom

[ShakingASS]

Doomer said paths are impossible outside of bounds' limits, but maps can be placed.

 

However, our tests indicate otherwise; no matter how you place the map object(s) outside the 6000x6000 zone the engine will just not render it, i am not sure about collision though but theoretically it probably won't work neither.

 

If an detour for this occurs, paths can be inserted by using external scripts

Maybe but he did say about tweaking some files you should test that method he said.Yes the paths are a problem.

[ShakingASS]

Placing SA next to LC is not a very good idea anyway, it are 2 very different maps (west side and east side..)

Lets think for a second forget the LC to SA thing we could make maps beyond the limits.

[ShakingASS]

Placing SA next to LC is not a very good idea anyway, it are 2 very different maps (west side and east side..)

Lets think for a second forget the LC to SA thing we could make maps beyond the limits.

Careface? 6000x6000 isn't enough for you?

 

I believe people asked for this, a updated vehicle list.

 

HERE

Nah it's to small we need bigger.

[vans123]

You ask for sh*t you cant handle

You can barely support the gigantic work load from a conversion

Stuff and you are asking to make 6000x6000+ scratch made maps?

 

Dont get me wrong but R* needed 6 years with a full building of modelers/artists to complete a kind of decent

NY replica using 4 or 8 more texture maps than the ones we manage to understand

 

I would focus my azz on mastering the unknown maps

And making something inside those 6000x6000 instead of asking for more

[ShakingASS]

You ask for sh*t you cant handle

You can barely support the gigantic work load from a conversion

Stuff and you are asking to make 6000x6000+ scratch made maps?

 

Dont get me wrong but R* needed 6 years with a full building of modelers/artists to complete a kind of decent

NY replica using 4 or 8 more texture maps than the ones we manage to understand

 

I would focus my azz on mastering the unknown maps

And making something inside those 6000x6000 instead of asking for more

Well i am sorry but us map devs would love to have more room.I was doing scratch map would love to break the limits of the map map bounds.I want to make a new city.

[D T]

Thanks for the updated TXD2OTD tool.

 

I can't get the SRT3 textures to show up in-game though. Has anyone here actually gotten them to work with beta2?

[nkjellman]

 

You ask for sh*t you cant handle

You can barely support the gigantic work load from a conversion

Stuff and you are asking to make 6000x6000+ scratch made maps?

 

Dont get me wrong but R* needed 6 years with a full building of modelers/artists to complete a kind of decent

NY replica using 4 or 8 more texture maps than the ones we manage to understand

 

I would focus my azz on mastering the unknown maps

And making something inside those 6000x6000 instead of asking for more

Well i am sorry but us map devs would love to have more room.I was doing scratch map would love to break the limits of the map map bounds.I want to make a new city.

Perhaps if the bounds were cracked, the SOL team can start their work on the Rage engine. That mod would be sweet on the Rage engine. Not only that, but I think they said that if they can hack the bounds, they will add the map, meaning they keep LC, and add the SOL map.

 

Edit: If were hacking the bounds SA can be placed far from LC. And when thats possable, it might be possable to get GTA III's map and VC in there too.

 

Don't say its not possable. It took alot of research to get it done on Vice City, and it is possable on IV. Only problem is patch compatability. GTA IV and EFLC. Newest patches should be first priority.

 

Also yes, it took Rockstar a while to make the models. Thats why when I make maps, I use models from games so they have dev quality, and because I'm lazy but wan't a good quality map.

 

One of the many reasons why GTAForums should remove that stuped, annoying, pointless rule of no converting models from other games.

Oh no, I ported a bulding from AC. I was going to buy AC so I can look at the bulding days on end, but it was ported to GTA IV so I don't need to buy AC, I can just look at the bulding in GTA. (sarcasm) Yet the GTA Liberty City mod (great mod) could convince people not to buy GTA III.

Edited February 23, 2012 by nkjellman

[ShakingASS]

 

You ask for sh*t you cant handle

You can barely support the gigantic work load from a conversion

Stuff and you are asking to make 6000x6000+ scratch made maps?

 

Dont get me wrong but R* needed 6 years with a full building of modelers/artists to complete a kind of decent

NY replica using 4 or 8 more texture maps than the ones we manage to understand

 

I would focus my azz on mastering the unknown maps

And making something inside those 6000x6000 instead of asking for more

Well i am sorry but us map devs would love to have more room.I was doing scratch map would love to break the limits of the map map bounds.I want to make a new city.

Perhaps if the bounds were cracked, the SOL team can start their work on the Rage engine. That mod would be sweet on the Rage engine. Not only that, but I think they said that if they can hack the bounds, they will add the map, meaning they keep LC, and add the SOL map.

 

Edit: If were hacking the bounds SA can be placed far from LC. And when thats possable, it might be possable to get GTA III's map and VC in there too.

 

Don't say its not possable. It took alot of research to get it done on Vice City, and it is possable on IV. Only problem is patch compatability. GTA IV and EFLC. Newest patches should be first priority.

 

Also yes, it took Rockstar a while to make the models. Thats why when I make maps, I use models from games so they have dev quality, and because I'm lazy but wan't a good quality map.

 

One of the many reasons why GTAForums should remove that stuped, annoying, pointless rule of no converting models from other games.

Oh no, I ported a bulding from AC. I was going to buy AC so I can look at the bulding days on end, but it was ported to GTA IV so I don't need to buy AC, I can just look at the bulding in GTA. (sarcasm) Yet the GTA Liberty City mod (great mod) could convince people not to buy GTA III.

Your so right why can't they close all other conversions from other games that's not fair for them closing mine.

[nkjellman]

 

You ask for sh*t you cant handle

You can barely support the gigantic work load from a conversion

Stuff and you are asking to make 6000x6000+ scratch made maps?

 

Dont get me wrong but R* needed 6 years with a full building of modelers/artists to complete a kind of decent

NY replica using 4 or 8 more texture maps than the ones we manage to understand

 

I would focus my azz on mastering the unknown maps

And making something inside those 6000x6000 instead of asking for more

Well i am sorry but us map devs would love to have more room.I was doing scratch map would love to break the limits of the map map bounds.I want to make a new city.

Perhaps if the bounds were cracked, the SOL team can start their work on the Rage engine. That mod would be sweet on the Rage engine. Not only that, but I think they said that if they can hack the bounds, they will add the map, meaning they keep LC, and add the SOL map.

 

Edit: If were hacking the bounds SA can be placed far from LC. And when thats possable, it might be possable to get GTA III's map and VC in there too.

 

Don't say its not possable. It took alot of research to get it done on Vice City, and it is possable on IV. Only problem is patch compatability. GTA IV and EFLC. Newest patches should be first priority.

 

Also yes, it took Rockstar a while to make the models. Thats why when I make maps, I use models from games so they have dev quality, and because I'm lazy but wan't a good quality map.

 

One of the many reasons why GTAForums should remove that stuped, annoying, pointless rule of no converting models from other games.

Oh no, I ported a bulding from AC. I was going to buy AC so I can look at the bulding days on end, but it was ported to GTA IV so I don't need to buy AC, I can just look at the bulding in GTA. (sarcasm) Yet the GTA Liberty City mod (great mod) could convince people not to buy GTA III.

Your so right why can't they close all other conversions from other games that's not fair for them closing mine.

Well because I can go in the clubs in GTA IV, I'm not going to buy EFLC, which I would buy for the missons, and not the extra buldings that take a few seconds to explore.

 

If you retextured the models and didnt say anything, they would never know.

 

I wonder if mods have been closed, but the person made the models them selvs, but the admin felt they were ported.

 

But for IV SA, Ill port the new map to EFLC soon. I'm enjoying the PS Vita right now. Hopefully I can make it work nicely like EFTW.

[noelgamo]

@ShakingAss you a map dev? I LOLed at that... you dont even know how to make a LODs. you cant seriously call yourself a map dev unless you can make scratch made models. I saw your AC convertions. the only credit you can get is being a map converter. you shouldnt think about that stupid boundary thingy because you havent even shown what you can do. 6000*6000 map space is enough for a single person

@Nk I think one of the reason that GTAForums dosent allow those kind of mods is that maybe some people from other game companies check the forum and if they see a contain from their game they might sue the site and Rockstar games(for theft)

Edit: They allow GTA games to get cross converted this way. GTA3/sa/vc>>>IV but not backwards EFLC>>>IV("cause it will affect sales") Im surprised GTA San andreas:liberty city is still open(last time vans and them tried it got closed)

Edited February 23, 2012 by noelgamo

[ShakingASS]

 

@ShakingAss you a map dev? I LOLed at that... you dont even know how to make a LODs. you cant seriously call yourself a map dev unless you can make scratch made models. I saw your AC convertions. the only credit you can get is being a map converter. you shouldnt think about that stupid boundary thingy because you havent even shown what you can do. 6000*6000 map space is enough for a single person

@Nk I think one of the reason that GTAForums dosent allow those kind of mods is that maybe some people from other game companies check the forum and if they see a contain from their game they might sue the site and Rockstar games(for theft)

I can make maps i just never studied the lods that's all nothing wrong with that.

[noelgamo]

@ShakingAss you do know that LODS can be made by simple boxes,planes and etc.(you have to do it by scratch) you dont even have to study that haha. if you meant importing them to IV well gims can help you do that.

[ShakingASS]

@ShakingAss you do know that LODS can be made by simple boxes,planes and etc.(you have to do it by scratch) you dont even have to study that haha. if you meant importing them to IV well gims can help you do that.

You don't get it i know what a damn lod is and i tryed on GIMS just forget it.Doesn't make sense how lod manager in GIMS is SA was easier to do.

[nkjellman]

@ShakingAss you a map dev? I LOLed at that... you dont even know how to make a LODs. you cant seriously call yourself a map dev unless you can make scratch made models. I saw your AC convertions. the only credit you can get is being a map converter. you shouldnt think about that stupid boundary thingy because you havent even shown what you can do. 6000*6000 map space is enough for a single person

@Nk I think one of the reason that GTAForums dosent allow those kind of mods is that maybe some people from other game companies check the forum and if they see a contain from their game they might sue the site and Rockstar games(for theft)

Edit: They allow GTA games to get cross converted this way. GTA3/sa/vc>>>IV but not backwards EFLC>>>IV("cause it will affect sales") Im surprised GTA San andreas:liberty city is still open(last time vans and them tried it got closed)

Ok I can understand that. But for EFLC Map Updates, wouldnt you think that mod would make people want to buy EFLC? I was porting the map, which isnt that different from the original map.

 

But give ShakingASS a break. He's new to GIMS, she has to learn how to use all the features, unlike Random or Blaster who learned them gradually as they were added.

 

[noelgamo]

He I mean she? O.o ok fine ill leave her/him(?) alone.

@Nk well maybe because theyre exclusive to EFLC or something.. I learned gims as it updates as well its just Im too lazy to do something big.. I have this thing inside me telling to make a big mod but I have this cant be bothered feeling as well.

Edited February 23, 2012 by noelgamo