SonofUgly Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 (edited) Alright so couple people have been discussing just a few frames and I think we may have a some decent, tangible, proof that San Fierro or a new Bay Area is in GTA V. This post is from the trailer analysis thread, from FCM: Rockstar wouldn't be accurate to put mist where there's no water.There's no water surrounded by moutains in California: the only exception is the Bay Area. Now look. You clearly see that there's a valley, mountains, and MIST. There's no mist without water. My conclusion: a valley, filled with mist, surrounded by mountains = The Bay Area. There are 3 wind farms in California: Palm Springs (about 100 miles east of Los Angeles), Tehachapi (between San Francisco and Los Angeles - close to Bakersfield) and Altamont, about 20 miles east of The Bay. A wind farm with mist and mountains, to me, there's no doubt: this is the Altamont wind farm and the bay is behind, because there's absolutly no water at Palm Springs wind farm and close to the Tehachapi wind farm. The Altamont Wind Farm is just right next to hills very similar to the ones in the trailer, so they match up. Also behind the wind farm in the trailer there is an object, not exactly sure what it is (left): Single Frame: But it looks like it almost could be the post for the New Bay Bridge. The horizontal beams get less spaced out the higher up it is on both the unknown object and the bridge. the only thing that doesn't match up is the posts on the bridge are inbetween the roads, while the object looks far to wide for it to be the same - unless it was changed so that the posts where put on the outsides of the road. New Bay Bridge: Also, there is a Skimmer (plane that lands and takes off of water) flying in the scene (Thanks ch3vychas3), which would support the idea that there is water close by: So what do you guys think, is that the bridge to the bay area, or something else? Edited November 7, 2011 by SonofUgly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I don't think we need a separate topic, plotting out the map based on the trailer and the original SA would make a bit more sense then plotting it out based on the real Los Angeles. I point to Midnight Club about why that is a bad idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverent Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 This is an oxymoron but: Solid speculation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeebuuus Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 (edited) I think it is very possible. The mist, the 3 real world wind farms, a possible bridge tower. This is interesting. Edited November 7, 2011 by Jeeebuuus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnzooger Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I love when people that don't live in California try and act like they know California. That wind farm is quite clearly the Tehachapi ones, which are on the south-eastern (LA) side of the mountains. There is also a very large lake up there, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castaic_Lake in the town of Castaic at the base of the range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lampka12 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 wow i hope yes, but nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch3vychas3 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I love when people that don't live in California try and act like they know California. That wind farm is quite clearly the Tehachapi ones, which are on the south-eastern (LA) side of the mountains. There is also a very large lake up there, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castaic_Lake in the town of Castaic at the base of the range. It's funny how every single person who acts like they know the real-life geographic location, all mention a completely different one... Thankyou OP for making the GIF for those who are blind and shrug this over, it's a very interesting frame... many say it's a radio tower, but I think it doesn't look box-shaped enough or something. It's definitely in the far distance, and the fog, and notice a seaplane flies from the direction of the "bridge". Honestly though, I don't know what to believe anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofUgly Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share Posted November 7, 2011 I love when people that don't live in California try and act like they know California. That wind farm is quite clearly the Tehachapi ones, which are on the south-eastern (LA) side of the mountains. There is also a very large lake up there, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castaic_Lake in the town of Castaic at the base of the range. You're right, I don't live in CA and I am taking the idea it's the Altamont wind farm from FCM and pictures. However, I think there are still some pretty good similarities between the wind farm in the trailer and the Altamont wind farm. @ch3vychas3 - That's a good point, hadn't thought about the Skimmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeebuuus Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 With the evidence presented and the seaplane I think this argument is at least valid. R* seemed to put subtle hints in their first trailer. I not saying this is absolutly true but can't be ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch3vychas3 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 The direction of New Bay Bridge from this map is accurate with the GTAV trailer... hmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeebuuus Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 The direction of New Bay Bridge from this map is accurate with the GTAV trailer... hmm And there is I-5 on the other side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Will this be it? From the looks of it, yes. As someone said, R* did leave some subtle clues for us to find out. I guess we'll have to wait for the next trailer to find it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnzooger Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I love when people that don't live in California try and act like they know California. That wind farm is quite clearly the Tehachapi ones, which are on the south-eastern (LA) side of the mountains. There is also a very large lake up there, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castaic_Lake in the town of Castaic at the base of the range. It's funny how every single person who acts like they know the real-life geographic location, all mention a completely different one... Thankyou OP for making the GIF for those who are blind and shrug this over, it's a very interesting frame... many say it's a radio tower, but I think it doesn't look box-shaped enough or something. It's definitely in the far distance, and the fog, and notice a seaplane flies from the direction of the "bridge". Honestly though, I don't know what to believe anymore. I have lived in both the LA and SF area. Infact, I lived in Castaic, Livermore, and Antioch. I've taken pictures of Mt Diablo (the real Chilliad) from my roof. I currently live just off the I-5 in Stockton, where the I-205 and the CA-4 split off to head to the bay. Really want to question my knowledge of the areas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch3vychas3 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Honestly, that scene in the trailer shows nothing of LA/Los Santos whatsoever. It looks exactly like the Altamont Pass around where I've indicated on the google maps. There's nothing but countryside and mountains, and what looks like a bridge in the direction New Bay bridge should be, and a seaplane flying from the same place where there's plenty of fog, it just seems awfully suspicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitbikesbmx Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Nice eye but I don't think this is a bridge. At first it looked like a visual glitch but if you zoom in and look closely it appears to be attached to the ground behind one of the turbines. Have a look. Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnzooger Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 (edited) Honestly, that scene in the trailer shows nothing of LA/Los Santos whatsoever. It looks exactly like the Altamont Pass around where I've indicated on the google maps. There's nothing but countryside and mountains, and what looks like a bridge in the direction New Bay bridge should be, and a seaplane flying from the same place where there's plenty of fog, it just seems awfully suspicious. The hills of the Altamont are nothing like the mountains of the Tehachapi. Tell me, what looks more like the trailer, what you posted, or this? (View faces Lake Isabella, btw.) @fitbikesbmx: Thanks, now I know what he was trying to point out in the trailer. What that is, is a wire holder/lights to prevent airplanes from crashing. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_warning_lights and http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_...nd-14102593.jpg Edited November 7, 2011 by jnzooger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeebuuus Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Honestly, that scene in the trailer shows nothing of LA/Los Santos whatsoever. It looks exactly like the Altamont Pass around where I've indicated on the google maps. There's nothing but countryside and mountains, and what looks like a bridge in the direction New Bay bridge should be, and a seaplane flying from the same place where there's plenty of fog, it just seems awfully suspicious. The hills of the Altamont are nothing like the mountains of the Tehachapi. Tell me, what looks more like the trailer, what you posted, or this? (View faces Lake Isabella, btw.) Does that place usually have mist. Like someone said you need a water source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnzooger Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Does that place usually have mist. Like someone said you need a water source. Its called a Tule-fog, and yes, all of the central valley areas of California get it. And to quote Wikipedia on the subject... Valley fog forms in mountain valleys, often during winter. It is the result of a temperature inversion caused by heavier cold air settling into a valley, with warmer air passing over the mountains above. It is essentially radiation fog confined by local topography, and can last for several days in calm conditions. In California's Central Valley, valley fog is often referred to as Tule fog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofUgly Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share Posted November 7, 2011 Nice eye but I don't think this is a bridge. At first it looked like a visual glitch but if you zoom in and look closely it appears to be attached to the ground behind one of the turbines. Have a look. Uploaded with ImageShack.us Played back extremely slowly and that white spot seems to be infront of the large white object, here's the second to last frame it's in: It looks like it's just right of where it is in your picture, so I'm not sold that its a base for the object (still just calling it an object because I'm not 100% sure what it is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hcrealill Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Honestly, that scene in the trailer shows nothing of LA/Los Santos whatsoever. It looks exactly like the Altamont Pass around where I've indicated on the google maps. There's nothing but countryside and mountains, and what looks like a bridge in the direction New Bay bridge should be, and a seaplane flying from the same place where there's plenty of fog, it just seems awfully suspicious. The hills of the Altamont are nothing like the mountains of the Tehachapi. Tell me, what looks more like the trailer, what you posted, or this? (View faces Lake Isabella, btw.) @fitbikesbmx: Thanks, now I know what he was trying to point out in the trailer. What that is, is a wire holder/lights to prevent airplanes from crashing. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_warning_lights and http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_...nd-14102593.jpg The other one, it has brighter dirt paths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnzooger Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Actually, looking a little closer, that looks more like a cell tower...which there is one of at EACH wind farm. It also serves as an aircraft warning light system though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeebuuus Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Does that place usually have mist. Like someone said you need a water source. Its called a Tule-fog, and yes, all of the central valley areas of California get it. And to quote Wikipedia on the subject... Valley fog forms in mountain valleys, often during winter. It is the result of a temperature inversion caused by heavier cold air settling into a valley, with warmer air passing over the mountains above. It is essentially radiation fog confined by local topography, and can last for several days in calm conditions. In California's Central Valley, valley fog is often referred to as Tule fog. So that would mean R* put this fog(not smog)around Los Santos. That is a bit strange if it were the case. Still fishy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofUgly Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share Posted November 7, 2011 Actually, looking a little closer, that looks more like a cell tower...which there is one of at EACH wind farm. It also serves as an aircraft warning light system though. The reason I don't think it's a radio tower or oil derrick is because it just has horizontal beams, it doesn't have cross beams like the cell tower in your picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnzooger Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Does that place usually have mist. Like someone said you need a water source. Its called a Tule-fog, and yes, all of the central valley areas of California get it. And to quote Wikipedia on the subject... Valley fog forms in mountain valleys, often during winter. It is the result of a temperature inversion caused by heavier cold air settling into a valley, with warmer air passing over the mountains above. It is essentially radiation fog confined by local topography, and can last for several days in calm conditions. In California's Central Valley, valley fog is often referred to as Tule fog. So that would mean R* put this fog(not smog)around Los Santos. That is a bit strange if it were the case. Still fishy. The fact that the farm is at least an hour from the city makes this point moot. There are at least 5 different climates in the LA area alone, and even more if you head north from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeebuuus Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Does that place usually have mist. Like someone said you need a water source. Its called a Tule-fog, and yes, all of the central valley areas of California get it. And to quote Wikipedia on the subject... Valley fog forms in mountain valleys, often during winter. It is the result of a temperature inversion caused by heavier cold air settling into a valley, with warmer air passing over the mountains above. It is essentially radiation fog confined by local topography, and can last for several days in calm conditions. In California's Central Valley, valley fog is often referred to as Tule fog. So that would mean R* put this fog(not smog)around Los Santos. That is a bit strange if it were the case. Still fishy. The fact that the farm is at least an hour from the city makes this point moot. There are at least 5 different climates in the LA area alone, and even more if you head north from there. Good point. Right now I think it could go either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Has Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 OP gives me faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch3vychas3 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Does that place usually have mist. Like someone said you need a water source. Its called a Tule-fog, and yes, all of the central valley areas of California get it. And to quote Wikipedia on the subject... Valley fog forms in mountain valleys, often during winter. It is the result of a temperature inversion caused by heavier cold air settling into a valley, with warmer air passing over the mountains above. It is essentially radiation fog confined by local topography, and can last for several days in calm conditions. In California's Central Valley, valley fog is often referred to as Tule fog. So that would mean R* put this fog(not smog)around Los Santos. That is a bit strange if it were the case. Still fishy. The fact that the farm is at least an hour from the city makes this point moot. There are at least 5 different climates in the LA area alone, and even more if you head north from there. Dude, it's not real life LA, it's Los Santos... they simply maps in videogames, so the "bridge" object can be closer in the game than it is or should be in real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnzooger Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 (edited) Actually, looking a little closer, that looks more like a cell tower...which there is one of at EACH wind farm. It also serves as an aircraft warning light system though. The reason I don't think it's a radio tower or oil derrick is because it just has horizontal beams, it doesn't have cross beams like the cell tower in your picture. How about this then? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...ute_tension.JPG @ch3vychas3: I'm well aware of that, but they will likely represent the climate zones anyway. Hence how you could have the snowy peaks of the Tall Trees region so close to the deserts of Diez Coronas in Red Dead Redemption. In real life, those areas are 100's of miles apart, but they still have that kind of climate. Edited November 7, 2011 by jnzooger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofUgly Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share Posted November 7, 2011 Actually, looking a little closer, that looks more like a cell tower...which there is one of at EACH wind farm. It also serves as an aircraft warning light system though.http://www.greenfudge.org/wp-content/uploa...nes-225x300.jpg The reason I don't think it's a radio tower or oil derrick is because it just has horizontal beams, it doesn't have cross beams like the cell tower in your picture. How about this then? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...ute_tension.JPG Well, no, because that only has 3 beams, not 8 or 9 and there's two beams on both sides, not just one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnzooger Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Actually, looking a little closer, that looks more like a cell tower...which there is one of at EACH wind farm. It also serves as an aircraft warning light system though.http://www.greenfudge.org/wp-content/uploa...nes-225x300.jpg The reason I don't think it's a radio tower or oil derrick is because it just has horizontal beams, it doesn't have cross beams like the cell tower in your picture. How about this then? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...ute_tension.JPG Well, no, because that only has 3 beams, not 8 or 9 and there's two beams on both sides, not just one. I mean style only. The ones near wind towers have more crossbars, I just can't find a picture right now, and I'm not driving 2 hours (or 8 hours for that mater) to get a pic when I work today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
