DawidZnawca Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Alright, for some of you this topic might be stupid, nonsense and retarded. But listen... Long-time GTA fans probably remember how GTA games evolved from their first screenshots to their final release version. Best example is probably GTA San Andreas. Take a look at the video: * Each city had its own motorcycle cop model, whereas in the final release the same model is used for all cities (The beta cop models can still be found on the game´s files) * The Pizza Boy side-mission was removed. * Originally, if Carl Johnson killed a pedestrian, a news van would arrive and the crew would report on the event. * Pharmacies from Vice City was originally included in-games were you can buy health and adrenaline. * Hardware Stores was originally included in-games, and you can buy tools (like in Vice City). * San Andreas was much bigger and had several different land masses, such as a larger San Fierro (which resembled San Francisco more closely), A full beta map of San Andreas can be found on a wall in the Lil' Probe'Inn. * The Skateboard was cut from the final game (its icon is still on the disk, and it can still be used but only as a weapon). (more at: http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=453755&hl=) Or a perfect example from GTA IV... Fingerless gloves How do you think? Why they delete so many cool content from beta versions of GTA? Do you think they're gonna delete a lot of original content from V? Or maybe you think the final version is always better than any previous one? I personally miss the content GTA IV and especially San Andreas originally had. I don't know why the hell developers deleted so much cool things from the game and I'm looking forward that someday they release a pack called "Grand Theft Auto: All Beta Versions of The Series". Yay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jogy Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 I'm sure they gonna delete a few things. Like the rooftop that can come down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeNDo6750 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 I'm sure they gonna delete a few things. Like the rooftop that can come down. i hope not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceRay Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 People always complain about content being removed but sometimes the stuff doesn't make sense. For example, in GTA IV beta, it was said you could climb telegraph poles and snipe at people. Sounds cool, but when you think about it, Niko would be giant sitting duck unable to move and would be killed. If you think about it, they cut out the stuff that isn't needed, so I'm sure it will be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMR2007 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Things usually get removed because they don't work properly or affect the game in a negative way. Like the fingerless gloves; people made such a big deal about them but who gives a sh*t, why would he wear gloves 24/7, just because he's an illegal immigrant doesn't mean he has no idea of personal hygiene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeXt Vice City Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 I personally think its fascinating to see how things change from the beta stage to the golden master release. It kinda gives you an insight into what Rockstar were thinking and how ideas and opinions develop as game development goes on. Nice topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leik oh em jeez! Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Final all the way. I see so many people complaining about things being removed in final versions. What they don't realize is that if something was removed, there was a reason for it. Maybe it was taking too much time to work out glitches or perfect the coding for a certain feature. Maybe it was removed and replaced with something better instead. Developers don't look at games and say "Oh, that's a cool feature. Let's take it out of the game." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigalsunz Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 They can leave out all they want, as long as some mod can put them back in like "Hot Coffee" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawidZnawca Posted November 5, 2011 Author Share Posted November 5, 2011 Final all the way. I see so many people complaining about things being removed in final versions. What they don't realize is that if something was removed, there was a reason for it. Maybe it was taking too much time to work out glitches or perfect the coding for a certain feature. Maybe it was removed and replaced with something better instead. Developers don't look at games and say "Oh, that's a cool feature. Let's take it out of the game." Still, those kinds of things from beta San Andreas weren't so stupid: * Each city had its own motorcycle cop model, whereas in the final release the same model is used for all cities (The beta cop models can still be found on the game´s files) * Pharmacies from Vice City was originally included in-games were you can buy health and adrenaline. * Hardware Stores was originally included in-games, and you can buy tools (like in Vice City). + 100 cool features deleted from the game. Why, Rockstar, why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leik oh em jeez! Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 It's not always about what's stupid. Sometimes it comes down to problems with development. Or the low end hardware the games are forced to run on being able to handle everything. Disk space is also something to consider. You have to look at it from a developer's point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mroz Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 I remember reading an article about Niko being able to climb telephone poles in one of the previews for IV. I'm guessing the reason they remove most of these features is because they're too glitchy or unnecessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexhero12 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Beta, Just because i kinda want to see part of the game sooner (i'm greedy, sue me.) Final, Because it makes it less confusing and creates more hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawidZnawca Posted November 5, 2011 Author Share Posted November 5, 2011 I remember reading an article about Niko being able to climb telephone poles in one of the previews for IV. I'm guessing the reason they remove most of these features is because they're too glitchy or unnecessary. Honestly when I've find out that Niko will climb up the telephone poles, I thought as him as a monkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EncryptedReality Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 I only can't forget that they took out the feature to swing at the back of vehicles like in that mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotGTA Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 i always love the BETA to final things in the BETA its like its a whole different game , somthimes even better XD i love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccrogers15 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 stuff will be cut due to the 360. No offence to 360 owners though, but i really dont see how 360 will get it without more then 2 disks. It will have cuts im sure. It better not happen due to 360. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxvayne Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Things usually get removed because they don't work properly or affect the game in a negative way. Like the fingerless gloves; people made such a big deal about them but who gives a sh*t, why would he wear gloves 24/7, just because he's an illegal immigrant doesn't mean he has no idea of personal hygiene Well he did look like a hobo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillz7855 Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 It all comes down in stuff not working properly or approved on time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jynxdays Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Who cares about something as useless af f*cking Fingerless gloves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sh*t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefantome Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Id like R* release GTA3 alpha with cartoon graphics school bus and darkel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jynxdays Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 BETA IS BETTA lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lampka12 Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 They will cut everything wich was in first trailer (just like GTA SA - IV) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawidZnawca Posted November 6, 2011 Author Share Posted November 6, 2011 Cocksuckers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One-time Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Being cut or not, I'm sure the modding community will take care of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long_Haired_Boy Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Yea a year later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackass2009 Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 There's a reason everything gets cut. Better to go with the final product than a glitchy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One-time Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Yea a year later. Well... we PC gamers are patient people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchiNut Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 (edited) The final game is usually better in that the beta version probably glitches too often, or runs poorer for whatever reason in ways that lowers the games quality. Edited November 6, 2011 by ArchiNut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawidZnawca Posted November 6, 2011 Author Share Posted November 6, 2011 How possibly deleting Pizza boy missions would lower quality of gameplay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikonatorbelick Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 (edited) i believe if Rockstar takes out some "cool" feature from he game after the beta, then it is, either because it's glitchy, hard to use, not fun, or simply because it really does not fit into the game, as long as it's for the better of the game, im ok with it, GTA has never dissapointed me neither Rockstar Edited November 6, 2011 by nikonatorbelick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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