GTAlove Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Man. The same old "face it, it's only gonna be in SoCal" and to make matters worst I read that statement from rockstar at least 50 times in one thread on average. There is now right answer or wrong answer at this point because theirs only one trailer. ONE. All the OP was doing was making conclusions, only thing is he did his more ellequetly. Just SoCal? Just SoCal? Southern California is HUGE, varied, and contains multiple cities. R* have CONFIRMED: "Southern California" You sir must have nitpicked at what I wrote. I have no problem with it being based in SoCal. I just get tired of the Anti-SF/LV flooding threads with the same arguement. It's nerve racking. Okay, what if we do get at least SF? will They still buy the game? If we only get socal, will I not buy the game? Both answers are yes and I wish the members understand that. Oh I pray we get SF and LV, trust me. And I'm not saying they won't be included. I am saying that there will be more than just Los Santos and some countryside. See here: http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtop...st&p=1060842574 And I agree because I would love to fly planes from Santos to wherever the other locations are. I honestly am against putting a recreation of San Diego in V because in my mind it's just like LA. Beaches, palm trees and all. WTF? Have you even been to San Diego? San Diego and Los Angeles are like day and night compared to each other. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/491735-why-there-are-3-cities-in-gta-v/page/6/#findComment-1060843169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonLAT Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 ^ That whole post was awesome, except the last statement. If this is the last GTA game, I will cry. Thanks... & it might not be the last GTA game but they do keep on saying: oh this is the last GTA game, Oh no this one is, this one Definatly is. But they keep making them.. So who knows??? I hope they do keep making them, because I love the GTA's...... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/491735-why-there-are-3-cities-in-gta-v/page/6/#findComment-1060843200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIntellectualz Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Man. The same old "face it, it's only gonna be in SoCal" and to make matters worst I read that statement from rockstar at least 50 times in one thread on average. There is now right answer or wrong answer at this point because theirs only one trailer. ONE. All the OP was doing was making conclusions, only thing is he did his more ellequetly. Just SoCal? Just SoCal? Southern California is HUGE, varied, and contains multiple cities. R* have CONFIRMED: "Southern California" You sir must have nitpicked at what I wrote. I have no problem with it being based in SoCal. I just get tired of the Anti-SF/LV flooding threads with the same arguement. It's nerve racking. Okay, what if we do get at least SF? will They still buy the game? If we only get socal, will I not buy the game? Both answers are yes and I wish the members understand that. Oh I pray we get SF and LV, trust me. And I'm not saying they won't be included. I am saying that there will be more than just Los Santos and some countryside. See here: http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtop...st&p=1060842574 And I agree because I would love to fly planes from Santos to wherever the other locations are. I honestly am against putting a recreation of San Diego in V because in my mind it's just like LA. Beaches, palm trees and all. WTF? Have you even been to San Diego? San Diego and Los Angeles are like day and night compared to each other. Yes I've been to LA and San Diego which is why I made that statement. I feel LA is more of a city and San Diego is more of a beach town. But, this is my opinion and I don't understand why it's so damn wrong to voice it.... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/491735-why-there-are-3-cities-in-gta-v/page/6/#findComment-1060843257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarFyer Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 New York is something like 10 milions of ppl and LA is 4 milions - BUT - maybe you are right and they don't give a fu*k about it? new york city has a larger population of people but as far as area l.a. is much bigger than nyc Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/491735-why-there-are-3-cities-in-gta-v/page/6/#findComment-1060843261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hcrealill Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 New York is something like 10 milions of ppl and LA is 4 milions - BUT - maybe you are right and they don't give a fu*k about it? new york city has a larger population of people but as far as area l.a. is much bigger than nyc I'm guessing there's not going to be that many NPCs on the streets. But that's only if we take the trailer and GTA IV NPC population into consideration. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/491735-why-there-are-3-cities-in-gta-v/page/6/#findComment-1060843283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twang. Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 I remember before San Andreas was released there was a big deal about it being too big to fit on a DVD. "It'll require a dual-layer DVD to fit all that in it!" Oh, how times haven't changed. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/491735-why-there-are-3-cities-in-gta-v/page/6/#findComment-1060843285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 I'm gonna be bold and say they put in LS, SF, LV, and San Diego. But I know I'm probably wrong. At first I was upset that we probably wouldn't see all of SA. But if we get San Diego I'd be fine with that. As long as there is at least one other major city I can use my plane or freeway to get to. But SF and LV would be nice because if their completely different vibes. I think that picture of the hookers outside of the that store Ace's is the biggest hint to LV. Most of us agree it looks like the desert. And Ace's? Come on, that screams LV. I could be wrong, but that's just my beliefs. And the biggest hint to SF are the redwoods by the huge mountain. Redwoods are found in Northern California. And vineyards are found all over in California, but it could be Napa Valley. My theory for San Diego is the Rockstar newswire blog saying it is a depiction of Southern California and also the I-5 sign which goes is known as the San Diego Freeway. Another one is a longshot, but the military plane we saw in the trailer. San Diego is a big port for the Navy. Either way, I'll be happy with GTA V no matter what. I just love the feeling of being in a whole new city and environment like in San Andreas. And while some of us won't get what we want, every Rockstar game I've ever played has been nothing short of magnificent and GTA V will be no different. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/491735-why-there-are-3-cities-in-gta-v/page/6/#findComment-1060843295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer.Khan Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 People need to realize that this is a totally different and re-vamped Los Santos! Your NOT going back to the LS you once knew 8 years ago on the PS2! I see ton's of potential in this one city. Sure Vegas and SF were cool but if you want to go back play San Andreas on your PS2! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/491735-why-there-are-3-cities-in-gta-v/page/6/#findComment-1060843302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Without a Tongue Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 4. Is this a desert in the trailer? In the above picture, to me, that looks like a desert and another big hint from R* that this really is a revolution and a reason why it's GTA 5 and not GTA 4:Los Santos. I hate myself for contributing to the conspiracy theory, but... ACE liquor? ACE? With four suits on the sign? Gambling? Yes? No? Probably not? Edit: Damn it, I just noticed bucsfan's comment. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/491735-why-there-are-3-cities-in-gta-v/page/6/#findComment-1060843347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonLAT Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 At the Very Least, They might do Los Santos and Las Venturas. and have San Fierro and San Diego as (DLC) But I'm still hoping and having my fingers crossed for all 3... Please Rockstar, Do all 3 Cities Los Santos, San Fierro & Las Venturas. I'm Begging you.............. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/491735-why-there-are-3-cities-in-gta-v/page/6/#findComment-1060843384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer.Khan Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 At the Very Least, They might do Los Santos and Las Venturas. and have San Fierro and San Diego as (DLC) But I'm still hoping and having my fingers crossed for all 3... Please Rockstar, Do all 3 Cities Los Santos, San Fierro & Las Venturas. I'm Begging you.............. I don't think begging will get you it. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/491735-why-there-are-3-cities-in-gta-v/page/6/#findComment-1060843391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheesyJ Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 You do make some very good points. I can still see the game being in Los Santos alone, yet I would not be surprised to see it in the whole of San Andreas again. Your points made in this thread have slightly swayed my mind to be honest, which is indicative to your very good post. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/491735-why-there-are-3-cities-in-gta-v/page/6/#findComment-1060843424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonLAT Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Yes, It Is... Most Definatly... I think Los Santos & Las Venturas are Confirmed... Not sure about San Fierro...... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/491735-why-there-are-3-cities-in-gta-v/page/6/#findComment-1060843425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonLAT Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 (edited) I'm from UK, so does any body know if Route 66 in America goes through Las Vagas... Because I heard somewhere that, that picture and road in my post above is route 66...... The longest Road in America...... Edited November 6, 2011 by DragonLAT Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/491735-why-there-are-3-cities-in-gta-v/page/6/#findComment-1060843443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 I'm from UK, so does any body know if Route 66 in America goes through Las Vagas... No, but it's fairly close. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/491735-why-there-are-3-cities-in-gta-v/page/6/#findComment-1060843446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonLAT Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 That would be cool if you drove to las venturas on route 66 and it took a while. with little towns inbetween, then you could fly back with a plane.... COOL.......... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/491735-why-there-are-3-cities-in-gta-v/page/6/#findComment-1060843475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nihilist Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 I agree with you..In RG page they said that in game will be LS: Developed by series creator Rockstar North, Grand Theft Auto V heads to the city of Los Santos and surrounding hills, countryside and beaches in the largest and most ambitious game Rockstar has yet created , so other guys are saying that there is not gonna be a LV and SF, just LS...Yeah, RG said that there will be LS, but they didn't say that there won't be SF... Besides, that with wind farm in trailer and RL have sense... I hope there will be SF at leats yep, as well said. They never said there wont be other cities. They just said theres LS. There won't be any the size of LS. There will be towns and things like that, but cities the size of LS won't be in GTAV. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/491735-why-there-are-3-cities-in-gta-v/page/6/#findComment-1060843492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abottig Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 I remember before San Andreas was released there was a big deal about it being too big to fit on a DVD. "It'll require a dual-layer DVD to fit all that in it!" Oh, how times haven't changed. Me too. History always repeats itself around here. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/491735-why-there-are-3-cities-in-gta-v/page/6/#findComment-1060843516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldee Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 i personally would love to see LV and SF return but as you said.. R* are masters at marketing, and marketing V as LS only so well that we can get over not having the other 2 cities in it.. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/491735-why-there-are-3-cities-in-gta-v/page/6/#findComment-1060843524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonLAT Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 This was Leaked, but its not confirmed... 1: The game world is absolutely massive and will push both xbox and PS3 to the very limit in terms of what it has accomplished. Yes, the main city is simply Los Santos however is it AT LEAST 4 times bigger than Liberty City in GTA 4 and that is just Los Santos. The surrounding country side, beaches, etc are massive. For instance, we saw the main character ( an African/American, early 30's) travel by car from the center of Los Santos into the wildnerness and it took over 15 minutes. The views were incredible from farmhouses with cattle, huge wind farms, an oil refinery which appeared to be living and breathing with nearly 100 NPCs working on machinery, operating vehicles, lifting and loaded, etc, unlike the gas works in GTA 4 which seemed to only house a few NPC at a time. The forests are more beautiful than those in RDR and featured people camping, young NPC drinking and dancing around campfires, people riding dirt bikes and jumping over logs, streams, etc. The water effects, forna, plants, trees all looked beautiful. 2: The shooting mechanics have been greatly improved with animations for diving, climbing, rolling and crawling all added for better realism. The re-loading animations for new ammo also look cooler, less static. 3: There is much more climbable elements in the world such as ladders, overhand climbing, etc. 4: There are animals in the game from dogs to cattle but at this time it is not confirmed if you will be able to harm the animals. Rockstar were able to get away with it in RDR as it was a true depiction of the world in which the game was set. Allowing dogs/cattle to die in a game sent in current times may cause headaches with PETA. Its unclear if Rockstar were joking here. 5: There are planes to pilot and they can be crashed into buildings if you choose to do so.... 6: Rockstar have included many, many more interior locations such as a shopping mall, college campus, police station, a huge hospital and there is also a vast underground sewer network which one mission later in the game involves a jet ski chase that culminates in a Fugitive-esque waterfall jump ( there are nods to the ridiculous but awesome Ballad Of Gay Tony missions) 7: The city is full of NPCs jogging, weight-lifting, hitting on women, being chased on foot by cops, shopping, washing cars, fixing fences, moving home, filling up their cars, etc. REAL JUICY INFO: 1: Cars can be upgraded/repaired and it has been considered to have a car have fuel forcing the player to fill her up. 2: The dating aspect of the game is gone. You still have a cell-phone but only people you will meet in the game will call you to ask you to do a mission or to ask you to do something else before the mission. 3: Weapons include the usual arsenal you'd aspect but the flamethrowers, remote mines, laxer trip mines and claymores are included. It is possible now to pick up random objects in a street/buidling to use as a weapon. There is also a museam where it is possible to steal old age swords, axes, etc. 4: it is possible to rupture a fuel line and if you shot at the trail of gasoline it will lead straight back to the car blowing it up. 5: mini games such as bowling, darts, etc have all gone. You can play basketball, weight train, arm wrestle, gamble and cage fight, enter triatholons, water races, cannoing, ab-saling, rock climbing, base jumping, ski diving. More to be confirmed. 6: Character customisation is back but only in terms of clothing, body weight, etc. The player you start off which, much like CJ, can't be altered by race, age, height, etc. 7: Rockstar said burglary missions may return but only as part of missions and not on neigbourhood houses. 8: No children NPC at all. Ever. 9: There is now an ability to grab people and use as sheilds or in "hostage" situations. 10: The cops are much, much, much more realistic. If you kill somebody when you know there are no cops around you will not run the risk of a one star as often as you would in GTA4. The cops will use smoke and tear gas, dogs, riot gear and rams to knock down the doors of buildings you are hiding in. 11: You can enter some buildings and lock doors, push objects in the way to barricade. 12: You become better at things as the game progresses. If you only ride motorbikes then you will increase your skills, same as individual weapons. 13: Certain weapons can be customisable and some even home-made. 14: One mission involves breaking out a very familiar GTA icon from a previous game... 15: Torrential rain fall and sunshine and even tremors will appear in the game. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/491735-why-there-are-3-cities-in-gta-v/page/6/#findComment-1060843577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nihilist Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Yes, It Is... Most Definatly... I think Los Santos & Las Venturas are Confirmed... Not sure about San Fierro...... Have you never heard of Riverside? It looks a lot like that, and isn't anywhere near Las Vegas, it's by LA. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/491735-why-there-are-3-cities-in-gta-v/page/6/#findComment-1060843614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Made Man Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Man good job! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/491735-why-there-are-3-cities-in-gta-v/page/6/#findComment-1060843740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
john12 Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 what about lc and vc man? can't they put like they did in gta sa? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/491735-why-there-are-3-cities-in-gta-v/page/6/#findComment-1060843857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Ryan. Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 (edited) That picture looks like it could be part of the mountain that was in the trailer. In what way do you (The guy who posted up the picture) think desert is shown in the background? It makes no sense. Why would the majority of the trailer show LS and this small part show LV? I tell you what some of you are going to be very upset when the next trailer comes out and it's proven SF and LV aren't in this game. Denial is at an all time high atm. Edited November 6, 2011 by Miamivicecity Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/491735-why-there-are-3-cities-in-gta-v/page/6/#findComment-1060843870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElSalvo Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 I said it in another topic but I'll repeat it here: The press release specifically says "....a re-imagined Southern California". San Francisco is in Northern California and Las Vegas is in a whole different state (Nevada). However, as mentioned before, SoCal is HUGE. We've got Anaheim, San Diego, blahblahblah along with the US-Mexico border. That's more than enough to play with and if R* do things properly we could still see multiple cities in V, just not SF and LV. It's still going to be f*cking good as hell though, trust me. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/491735-why-there-are-3-cities-in-gta-v/page/6/#findComment-1060843872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiantsPride Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Hey, So below is my argument for why there will be three cities in GTA V... 1. Interstate 5 - Los Puerta Freeway hints at more cities R* would have spent months planning this trailer release, and as you know they don't tend to give away too much. They give a small hint at more to come by giving a whole more scene focused on Interstate 5 - Los Puerta Freeway. This, of course refers to the real life Interstate 5 which connects Los Angelos to San Francisco and the rest of the west coast. Notice it says north, San Francisco is north of of Los Angelos and takes 6 hours on the Interstate 5....clever and sneaky hinting by R*? Seems their style... In a nutshell: I believe R* showed this purposely to subtly hint that there is more to come... 2. They did it with the first GTA: San Andreas trailer This is the kicker for me personally. I remember way back when GTA: San Andreas came out, everyone was pumped about Los Angelos in GTA, and no one thought that it could be the entire state, only rumours until it was actually confirmed a bit later. In this trailer, they give WAY more evidence than they did in the first trailer for San Andreas. In that trailer, there was NO evidence of any more cities. Even the plane flew over only vinewood and los santos. Check it out: In a nutshell: I believe R* made this version GTA V for a reason and not GTA: Los Santos, and like they did with GTA San Andreas, they are building us all up with speculation and rumours so they can later go BAM Trailer 2 with the Golden Gate Bridge & Casinos and have us all wetting our pants 3. They have planes? They have speed of sound fighter jets? They must have airports too... Even in San Andreas they had to have an airport for the planes, multiple airports in fact. Did you see how freaking fast that Jet was in the trailer? If that plane is going to be zipping around that fast just for one city. What's going to happen? After the vineyards and huge mountain, you immediately start flying over water? I don't think so... Also, R* have previously stated that there is no point in having planes for one city, especially with realistic planes.... R* aren't going to have planes just for it to be crap. In a nutshell: I believe R* are going to employ planes very effectively, similar to San Andreas. 4. Is this a desert in the trailer? In the above picture, to me, that looks like a desert and another big hint from R* that this really is a revolution and a reason why it's GTA 5 and not GTA 4:Los Santos. In a nutshell: I believe R* throughout the trailer have hinted that there is more so that we would speculate and be tortured with debate and analysis in order to promote the game, it's amazing marketing and look at that screenshot, if that's not a las venturas hint then what is? 5. Mount Chilliad is in the San Fierro section of the GTA San Andreas world In the GTA World Mount Chilliad is in the San Fierro section of the GTA San Andreas state. In a nutshell: I believe R* has showed us the mountain to hint that this game is going to be HUGE and expansive. 6. The windmill part of the trailer is the Tehachapi Pass Wind Farm in between real world Los Angelos and San Francisco. The wind farm in real life is closer to Los Angelos than San Francisco, so this may not help my case, however, it is a fair way in between the two cities and is sort of passed on interstate 5.... In a nutshell: I believe R* has showed us the wind farm to hint that this game is going to be HUGE and expansive where you will be driving through to get to San Fierro. 7. This is how Rockstar is. This is how Rockstar are, they are MASTERS in marketing their games, at building the most intense hype, they give you a small nibble and your left wanting more. They have given lots of little hints in the trailer that would have been analysed internally at R* for months, they haven't denied it, they say they will revolutionise with this game, they will by launch time had over 4 years to develop GTA V (assuming they launch November 2012) which is more than enough time to develop three cities on an engine that is already optimised with games such as red dead redemption and GTA IV they can rapidly develop (similar to GTA San Andreas), R* have never had a problem with spending a HUGE amount on their games (GTA IV was the most expensive game to be made ever) which would allow them a hell of a lot of coders/designers to make the two other cities in FOUR years....plus all the hints and precedents they set with the first trailer for GTA San Andreas just seems so Rockstar. In a nutshell: I believe this is classic R* to build hype to only show a bit and lower our expectations and then SMASH them, just like they did with GTA San Andreas... Conclusion As is hopefully evident by now R* seems to be hinting very strongly at the possibility of the other 3 cities, I as an optimist really do believe there will be 3 cities as it just doesn't make sense to me with all these hints, evidence and precedents set that they won't. But it's up to you, what are your thoughts? Best post ever Completely agree with everything you posted and agree we will have all 3 cities Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/491735-why-there-are-3-cities-in-gta-v/page/6/#findComment-1060843894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawly Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Los Santos was the best city in San Andreas, I hated San Fierro with it's stupid roads that were too steep to drive up and there was like nothing to do in San Fierro, that city was pointless as hell and just made for space. Las Venturas was pretty cool but I can live without it. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/491735-why-there-are-3-cities-in-gta-v/page/6/#findComment-1060843905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunrise Driver Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Planes are the main argument for more than 1 city. But why can't there be new cities? Or new towns? If LV and SF are in GTA V I'll be quite happy but also sad that R* avoided completely re-imagining South California and instead completely followed their consumer's orders. But they won't, so I'm sticking my money down on no SF/LV. That's what I hope. If another city is not SF than at least SD. And surely lost of smaller towns arround LA. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/491735-why-there-are-3-cities-in-gta-v/page/6/#findComment-1060844199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorenic Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Planes are the main argument for more than 1 city. But why can't there be new cities? Or new towns? If LV and SF are in GTA V I'll be quite happy but also sad that R* avoided completely re-imagining South California and instead completely followed their consumer's orders. But they won't, so I'm sticking my money down on no SF/LV. That's what I hope. If another city is not SF than at least SD. And surely lost of smaller towns arround LA. San Diego is in SoCal.. But isn't San Fierro based on San Diego? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/491735-why-there-are-3-cities-in-gta-v/page/6/#findComment-1060844344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Ryan. Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Planes are the main argument for more than 1 city. But why can't there be new cities? Or new towns? If LV and SF are in GTA V I'll be quite happy but also sad that R* avoided completely re-imagining South California and instead completely followed their consumer's orders. But they won't, so I'm sticking my money down on no SF/LV. That's what I hope. If another city is not SF than at least SD. And surely lost of smaller towns arround LA. San Diego is in SoCal.. But isn't San Fierro based on San Diego? San Fierro is based on San Francisco. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/491735-why-there-are-3-cities-in-gta-v/page/6/#findComment-1060844357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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