Too realistic.

[zippo55312]

 

i'm not coming from anywhere, but in a nutshell, your thread, again in a nutshell, goes:

 

"this sh*t is getting far too realistic that it disturbs me emotionally and scares the f*ck out of me "

 

but you know what? i don't deal with pussies so ill just leave you at that. my best regards however!

I wasn't saying it already does get to me I was saying it might in the future. Like you seriously don't think you would be at all phased by seeing pedestrians being gunned down in a photorealistic grand theft auto?

Edited November 5, 2011 by zippo55312

[PoloFleece]

At that point you can hand in your GTA license, because the game will no longer be for you. If you can't handle it don't play it. GTA like all games will one day reach a graphical level which you may find weird, but those of us who understand the difference between non-fiction vs fiction, reality and fantasy will continue to play on.

I just think that at that point a ton of people will be uncomfortable with doing gta type sh*t with photo realistic graphics. Not just me. Like there always will be people like you who will be unphased by that sh*t, but there will be alot of people who will find it creepy. It will be tricky territory for Rockstar to navigate, thats for sure.

True, however there is ways around the issue, for example even when games become photo-realistic, GTA could take up a different sort of visual or artistic design, to reduce the impact on people such as yourself. However that would probably cause trouble within the fanbase. I don't know what R* will do to avoid this problem, honestly.

[Ratone]

As long as GTA feels like a Satire, even with its more "realistic" feel, I don't think people will be too disturbed. It will always play like a satire, a "big joke". You take it serious, you care about the characters, but the world sounds and feels like a "fictional world". Sure, eyes will pop out, the peds will act and walk way better, but everytime you turn on the radio and you hear some satiric commercial, you'll feel somewhat detached.

 

A Great example of this is stanley kubrick's A Clockwork Orange.

Its an very violent movie, but people today seem to be able to watch it quite well. Because it has a very "surreal" feel to it, even if nothing in the movie is absurd and unrealistic.

[KrazzyDJ]

Well, even if it makes going on rampages difficult, it adds to the realism of the character even more. You can now identify with the characters guilt. If you actually feel guilty about killing someone in a game or think twice before firing the random bullet, then Rockstar has succeeded in its endeavor to move Grand Theft Auto closer towards realism. And if your character has had a whole lot of stuff which he would have gone through, then it would actually make him a maniac and remove the guilt of going on rampages. It becomes a fascinating case of character identification - I mean how many games can really make you feel such a guilt ??? Certainly not any of those first person shooters out there (most of which don't even have any pedestrians you can shoot at despite being set in metropolitan areas) !!!

[Halo_Override]

Well, even if it makes going on rampages difficult, it adds to the realism of the character even more. You can now identify with the characters guilt. If you actually feel guilty about killing someone in a game or think twice before firing the random bullet, then Rockstar has succeeded in its endeavor to move Grand Theft Auto closer towards realism. And if your character has had a whole lot of stuff which he would have gone through, then it would actually make him a maniac and remove the guilt of going on rampages. It becomes a fascinating case of character identification - I mean how many games can really make you feel such a guilt ??? Certainly not any of those first person shooters out there (most of which don't even have any pedestrians you can shoot at despite being set in metropolitan areas) !!!

This, exactly.

[RamiTR]

I totally agree with you! I sometimes feel guilt when I kill someone in GTA IV since for some reason I think "what if they had a family?" But then I think "family? WTF LOL! This is a f*ckin game, noone besides the protagonist has a family!". But if you take time to get that California feel of the city, you'll be shining like the city soul. Cali is a beutiful state and LA is the most beutiful city in the plant IMO. Think of it like the previous GTA III generation games. CJ first started to feel guilt when he killed someone, then he ended up taking over San Andreas! So basically, you might start out as a guilty CJ, but when you seperate fiction from reality, you'll be a full blown Tommy Vercetti! I feel the same, bro. I hope R* doesn't take it too far as to killing animals in a extreamly real engine.

[ldee]

 

i'm not coming from anywhere, but in a nutshell, your thread, again in a nutshell, goes:

 

"this sh*t is getting far too realistic that it disturbs me emotionally and scares the f*ck out of me "

 

but you know what? i don't deal with pussies so ill just leave you at that. my best regards however!

I wasn't saying it already does get to me I was saying it might in the future. Like you seriously don't think you would be at all phased by seeing pedestrians being gunned down in a photorealistic grand theft auto?

rofl.. i dont even want to answer this to save you further emotional and psychological "phasing" or disturbance

[VeganZombie]

This is getting ridiculous.

 

In my opinion, I wouldn't feel any sort of guilt about killing AI and pixels.

[uzi 9mm]

  Are you calling everyone who likes GTA feminine?

 

 

No, I believe he is saying people who get emotionally attatched to a make believe person have feminine traits.

Or people who get emotionally attached to a videogame you mean. And you agree with this? Feeling emotion to a make believe or made up character is normal when watching films and stuff anyway, I don't think feeling some sort of emotion to a videogame character is bad.

 

Becoming emotionally attached is a different story altogether, but I wouldn't go as far as trying to imply that the OP is emotionally attached...I think some users are just trying to say things to make other users laugh. You know like when school kids try be the classroom clown. Cough...no life.

[Cole Phelps Gta]

I remembered when some on here said they never shoot civilians or cops or purpose what i mean is they tryed to avoid hurting innocent people that's funny to me LOL ! But i do feel where your coming from i can see why you'd be offended personality i kinda enjoy the needless violence because its not real and i know the difference i mean i red dead redemption id take People out to the bush and kill them id lasso and hog tie them then put them on my horse get somewhere private watch them struggle then i cut them free let them get a head start then chase after them like a maniac what ruined my fun was when i was them in the leg they'd die i wanted them to suffer and wanted to shot them a few times before they died but the damn game didn't let me ! Sorry ive just allways wanted to tell someone about that lol but my point is i know the difference between a game and real life as if i could ever get away with that in real life so id never do it. I play games to escape reality and have some fun i dont think about the people i kill in games as people their data made for my amusement

[ironsjack]

whoa whoa whoa, dudes it's a game. The ability to differentiate between a video game and real life is one which comes naturally. If not then there is something wrong with you.

 

If i go on GTA just to do a killing spree cos its funny then so be it. I wouldn't go outside and do that, i'm not f*cked up.

 

 

Put it this way, they're pixels, they don't have feelings, families, jobs or friends. Don't matter how real they look, if you cannot differentiate between pixels and real life then a trip to the psychiatrist is needed.

 

Either that or you are one of those whiney women that go on radio/tv shows to complain about it 

Not really bro... theres an in between, which is that I would feel very uncomfortable seeing a photorealistic person beg for their life and then get shot, so I would choose not to do that. And as we get closer to that point I am gonna start to feel some of that weirdness.

So you are displaying the inability to distinguish between real life and reality. The "person" begging for their life is:

 

1. An actor's voice reading some lines which are played when in such a situation

 

2. A model which follows a set line of movement in this situation.

 

3. Not real.

 

I can understand feeling regret for killing someone who is an integral part to the story and is likeable enough to get emotionally attached too, but not randomly generated pedestrians.

[agentfox]

If you can't accept the fact then this is a game then you have a lot to catch up on in real life.

Are you retarded? Are you a retarded person? Read the last few posts... no one is saying that. We are just saying that some art, even though we know its not real, is so powerful that it can manipulate our emotions in a big way. It can make us feel sad, happy, and sometimes disturbed or uncomfortable. And we are saying that grand theft auto with photorealistic graphics- at that point the art becomes so powerful, that it has the ability to make us feel very uncomfortable.

It seem you need a lot of help if this game makes you emotional. Because I know in America if you start to have feeling over a game your either feminine or Some one whose gets to attach to a video game cough "No Life."

GTA is not just a game though, it is also storytelling, and the whole point of storytelling is to create sympathy with the characters so that when stuff happens to them you will care about the outcome, instead of just switching off. This is the whole point of IV, which led up to either the death of one of the main characters. Now in that sense they actually failed a bit because I felt no sympathy with Kate and couldn't care less what happened to her, but I did feel sympathy with Roman, and when I played that ending it affected me emotionally.

 

I also don't like to go on rampages or kill peds, not because I am kindhearted but because it destroys the suspension of disbelief. If "I" am sent on a mission to oversee a heroin deal, I wouldn't mow down 20 peds on the way there because it has nothing to do with the mission as it would happen in "real life".

 

Now taking this into account, whether I would kill a photo realistic character, depends on the character I am supposed to be. If I was essentially a man like Niko, who is generally good but just suffering from PTSD, I would not kill random people. But if I was a straight up sociopath like Claude then why not.

 

All IMHO.

[Jimbatron]

Obviously Im all for realism in gaming, the more realistic = the more immersive. But when applied to GTA I think a problem arises- the more realistic it gets, the more weird going on rampages get. They definitely haven't gotten to that point yet, but Im just thinking, I mean take the extreme- a gta game with photo realistic graphics, unique npc models and unique dialogue as well. That would be really f*cking dark!!!! Shooting a photo realistic woman screaming for help??? Im not down for that sh*t. So Im worried as technology gets better, we are gonna get closer and closer to that point. its weird for me because on one hand I would love for gta 5 to step up the realism, but maybe not too much. Going by the trailer, obviously its not yet at the point where Im not gonna go on rampages. But like kiling some of those characters- like the campers- that could get a little weird.

Thing is, it is your choice.

 

When I play IV, I don't go around shooting civillians or running them over. It's not because I worry about my own psychology or anything. It just seems the right way to play it - Niko is a proffesional, it doesn't really suit for him to go on a rampage.

 

The people you have to kill in missions, are generally pretty bad bad people - I doubt they will ever force you to kill an unambiguously good or innocent character to complete the game.

[steveb07]

It is still a game as a movie is just that... a movie. Geez, people. When you can't make the difference between real and unreal then you've got a problem and should ask for help.

[tempz1992]

I dont mind Realism, i quite enjoy it the more real the better the game, i can tell fantasy from Life, i wont play GTA kill some peoples go out my door and be lyk GTA MOTHERf*ckERS and start shooting at everyone

 

I believe rockstar should ALWAYS be pushing the boundries that is what there game is known for it pushes peoples limits and tests them, that's why the games are great that's just imo also and does not reflect any person other than myself however some may agree with me

Edited November 5, 2011 by tempz1992

[zippo55312]

whoa whoa whoa, dudes it's a game. The ability to differentiate between a video game and real life is one which comes naturally. If not then there is something wrong with you.

 

If i go on GTA just to do a killing spree cos its funny then so be it. I wouldn't go outside and do that, i'm not f*cked up.

 

 

Put it this way, they're pixels, they don't have feelings, families, jobs or friends. Don't matter how real they look, if you cannot differentiate between pixels and real life then a trip to the psychiatrist is needed.

 

Either that or you are one of those whiney women that go on radio/tv shows to complain about it 

Not really bro... theres an in between, which is that I would feel very uncomfortable seeing a photorealistic person beg for their life and then get shot, so I would choose not to do that. And as we get closer to that point I am gonna start to feel some of that weirdness.

So you are displaying the inability to distinguish between real life and reality. The "person" begging for their life is:

 

1. An actor's voice reading some lines which are played when in such a situation

 

2. A model which follows a set line of movement in this situation.

 

3. Not real.

 

I can understand feeling regret for killing someone who is an integral part to the story and is likeable enough to get emotionally attached too, but not randomly generated pedestrians.

Yeah like everyone else you completely misunderstand what I am getting at. I am just stating that seeing hordes of pedestrians getting gunned down in photorealistic graphics may be a disturbing image, I am NOT saying that I am getting emotionally attached to a f*cking pedestrian, I am saying that it may be unsettling to watch, in the same way that seeing a serial killer slit someones throat in a horror movie makes you cringe. Goddamnit no one reads the prior posts, and everyone makes the same f*cking point thats already been made.

 

I just wanted to reiterate what I was saying one more time. Now, that I have done so, can someone lock this thread? Because no one reads the f*cking prior posts, they just ignore them and end up posting the same f*cking sh*t that everyone has already posted. Seriously, lock this bitch, it is annoying now.

[drone214]

Obviously Im all for realism in gaming, the more realistic = the more immersive. But when applied to GTA I think a problem arises- the more realistic it gets, the more weird going on rampages get. They definitely haven't gotten to that point yet, but Im just thinking, I mean take the extreme- a gta game with photo realistic graphics, unique npc models and unique dialogue as well. That would be really f*cking dark!!!! Shooting a photo realistic woman screaming for help??? Im not down for that sh*t. So Im worried as technology gets better, we are gonna get closer and closer to that point. its weird for me because on one hand I would love for gta 5 to step up the realism, but maybe not too much. Going by the trailer, obviously its not yet at the point where Im not gonna go on rampages. But like kiling some of those characters- like the campers- that could get a little weird.

should we call the wahhh-mbulance?

[zippo55312]

Obviously Im all for realism in gaming, the more realistic = the more immersive. But when applied to GTA I think a problem arises- the more realistic it gets, the more weird going on rampages get. They definitely haven't gotten to that point yet, but Im just thinking, I mean take the extreme- a gta game with photo realistic graphics, unique npc models and unique dialogue as well. That would be really f*cking dark!!!! Shooting a photo realistic woman screaming for help??? Im not down for that sh*t. So Im worried as technology gets better, we are gonna get closer and closer to that point. its weird for me because on one hand I would love for gta 5 to step up the realism, but maybe not too much. Going by the trailer, obviously its not yet at the point where Im not gonna go on rampages. But like kiling some of those characters- like the campers- that could get a little weird.

should we call the wahhh-mbulance?

f*ck you man, Ill put you in the ground bitch.

[drone214]

Obviously Im all for realism in gaming, the more realistic = the more immersive. But when applied to GTA I think a problem arises- the more realistic it gets, the more weird going on rampages get. They definitely haven't gotten to that point yet, but Im just thinking, I mean take the extreme- a gta game with photo realistic graphics, unique npc models and unique dialogue as well. That would be really f*cking dark!!!! Shooting a photo realistic woman screaming for help??? Im not down for that sh*t. So Im worried as technology gets better, we are gonna get closer and closer to that point. its weird for me because on one hand I would love for gta 5 to step up the realism, but maybe not too much. Going by the trailer, obviously its not yet at the point where Im not gonna go on rampages. But like kiling some of those characters- like the campers- that could get a little weird.

should we call the wahhh-mbulance?

f*ck you man, Ill put you in the ground bitch.

wow im supposed to feel threatened or damn near even scared by that?

[tempz1992]

Obviously Im all for realism in gaming, the more realistic = the more immersive. But when applied to GTA I think a problem arises- the more realistic it gets, the more weird going on rampages get. They definitely haven't gotten to that point yet, but Im just thinking, I mean take the extreme- a gta game with photo realistic graphics, unique npc models and unique dialogue as well. That would be really f*cking dark!!!! Shooting a photo realistic woman screaming for help??? Im not down for that sh*t. So Im worried as technology gets better, we are gonna get closer and closer to that point. its weird for me because on one hand I would love for gta 5 to step up the realism, but maybe not too much. Going by the trailer, obviously its not yet at the point where Im not gonna go on rampages. But like kiling some of those characters- like the campers- that could get a little weird.

should we call the wahhh-mbulance?

f*ck you man, Ill put you in the ground bitch.

hahahahahahahahahahaha, Guys we have a badman on the forums.

[zippo55312]

Obviously Im all for realism in gaming, the more realistic = the more immersive. But when applied to GTA I think a problem arises- the more realistic it gets, the more weird going on rampages get. They definitely haven't gotten to that point yet, but Im just thinking, I mean take the extreme- a gta game with photo realistic graphics, unique npc models and unique dialogue as well. That would be really f*cking dark!!!! Shooting a photo realistic woman screaming for help??? Im not down for that sh*t. So Im worried as technology gets better, we are gonna get closer and closer to that point. its weird for me because on one hand I would love for gta 5 to step up the realism, but maybe not too much. Going by the trailer, obviously its not yet at the point where Im not gonna go on rampages. But like kiling some of those characters- like the campers- that could get a little weird.

should we call the wahhh-mbulance?

f*ck you man, Ill put you in the ground bitch.

hahahahahahahahahahaha, Guys we have a badman on the forums.

haha guys relax Im just dicking around. Im not one of those guys who acts "hard" on the internet.

[Ne0nLiteZ]

Guys stop coming at me like Im soft and not gonna play gta 5. I am, and Im surely gonna kill some motherf*ckers. But I'm just saying its gonna be a bit weirder then it was in the past. But in 5 years, with crazy next ten technology? then rockstar has a real dilemma on their hands.

this sounsd ilke an excuse to make a thread. who cares if you think its gonna be slightly 'weirder', especially if youre still going to do it anyway?

[DPletion]

U want dragons flying in the air? Lol

[Death2Drugs]

Guys stop coming at me like Im soft and not gonna play gta 5. I am, and Im surely gonna kill some motherf*ckers. But I'm just saying its gonna be a bit weirder then it was in the past. But in 5 years, with crazy next ten technology? then rockstar has a real dilemma on their hands.

this sounsd ilke an excuse to make a thread. who cares if you think its gonna be slightly 'weirder', especially if youre still going to do it anyway?

Meh, we're killing time until we see some more announcements.

[Inusan]

 

Shooting a photo realistic woman screaming for help??? Im not down for that sh*t. So Im worried as technology gets better, we are gonna get closer and closer to that point.

Well then I guess you should just stop playing games in general. This is the future of gaming, it'll become more realistic as technology advances. Don't like it, or feel disturbed about it? Then it's time to put down the controller, go outside, and live a real life.

[zippo55312]

Guys stop coming at me like Im soft and not gonna play gta 5. I am, and Im surely gonna kill some motherf*ckers. But I'm just saying its gonna be a bit weirder then it was in the past. But in 5 years, with crazy next ten technology? then rockstar has a real dilemma on their hands.

this sounsd ilke an excuse to make a thread. who cares if you think its gonna be slightly 'weirder', especially if youre still going to do it anyway?

f*ck you mean? Its an interesting topic- the subject of what happens when gta gets too realistic (at least for some people) to the point where its a little creepy. Anyway all sides of the debate have been covered already and I will say it again- I think this topic should be locked now because people keep saying the same sh*t over and over again and I find that annoying.

[Death2Drugs]

Shooting a photo realistic woman screaming for help??? Im not down for that sh*t. So Im worried as technology gets better, we are gonna get closer and closer to that point.

Well then I guess you should just stop playing games in general. This is the future of gaming, it'll become more realistic as technology advances. Don't like it, or feel disturbed about it? Then it's time to put down the controller, go outside, and live a real life.

People may simply have a "code of ethics" when playing games like GTA. I.E. Someone said that whenever he plays IV he tries to limit the number of officers and innocent peds injured. Not necessarily a "wimp", just "ethics".

[Inusan]

People may simply have a "code of ethics" when playing games like GTA. I.E. Someone said that whenever he plays IV he tries to limit the number of officers and innocent peds injured. Not necessarily a "wimp", just "ethics".

I understand that. But when you say that you're feeling disturbed when you play a game that looks and acts similar to reality, then obviously the person can't handle the content within the game, and are in general not suited to play the game.

[Pro wrestler]

I think what some people are ignoring is that we are talking about a game series here that has gone from being a fun top down game to become a fun and realistic third-person game. People who liked the first game might not like the third game. And people who liked the latest game doesn't necessary like the earlier games. But everyone want the next game to be something that they like.

 

I can totally relate to the fact that the realism can take the fun out of those killing sprees that you enjoyed in the earlier games. No one could help to giggle every time you saw those lines with Elvis-impersonators appearing in front of the car in the earliest games. Personally, I thought running them over with the car was one of the most memorable things from those games. And even though we all know that these are game characters and not real people we are talking about, I think you must be a bit emotionally disturbed if you would laugh the same way if you got the chance to run over people that looked and acted realistic. That is not to say you would not do it. But it would probably appeal to a much darker sense of humor and would not leave you rolling on the floor laughing.

 

The reason I love the GTA-games is because they have been able to keep the sense of humor intact. The radio-stations, ads and plot-twists have been good fun through the whole series. But with realistic graphics comes more serious themes and no one can deny the social criticism in the later games. Themes about morals. Rockstar show us the absurdities of living a criminal life in a society gone wrong and then hear narrow minded people on the radio being shocked about nudism. The double morals is also reflercted in real life criticism of the game itself. Mothers against drunk driving thinks that the worst thing about the game is that you can drive a car when intoxicated. "Never mind the killing of hundreds of people but how do you dare to include striptease in the game?!"

 

My point is that with realism come adult themes. And you might just want to see it as a different kind of game and appreachiate it for what it is. So, you feel bad about killing people? Good! It means that this game reminded you that there is a real world out there and that violence has consequenses.

 

At the same time though, maybe there is a market for another fun and unrealistic game in the GTA-series. And you already have seen that in Chinatown wars.

 

Just because GTA V will be realistic doesn't mean that there won't be other games (even within the same series) that will be enjoyable in the same way the old games were enjoyable.

 

Finally, I think it is ironic that some of negative voices about the new trailer were saying that it looked "too cartoony and unrealistic". How different we GTA-fans can be, huh?

 

Edited some spelling mistakes

Edited November 6, 2011 by Pro wrestler

[ldee]

lol this joker's thread's still up and running?! hahahahhaha

 

 

I am NOT saying that I am getting emotionally attached to a f*cking pedestrian

no sir we know you actually get emotionally attached to not a but all f*cking pedestrians

 

 

f*ck you mean? Its an interesting topic- the subject of what happens when gta gets too realistic (at least for some people) to the point where its a little creepy.

not quite.. the interesting topic here shall be the unusually rare specimen that is your unusually sappy pair of testicles ;]