GTA V Gangs

[The Made Man]

I think we will see the Mafia, and probably some ghetto street gangs.

The Italian Mafia actually has very little influence in LA.

 

Something tells me it won't be very gang heavy. More like small-time criminals selling drugs from the boot of their car, very little in the way of large scale organizations. I think after San Andreas they'll have moved on from the gangbanger types too.

Maybe we will see Mafia in Vegas, even there now they are not what they used to be back in the 70's-80's but I'm sure they are still involved in the traditional shake downs, drug trafficking and other rackets. They just don't own a lot of the Casino's and have lost their friends in the Teamsters unions. That being said, the mob in vegas shouldn't be counted out. Just lower profile.

The game is not taking place in LV(it seems that way).

 

Also even if it did, the mafia has been ran out of Los Vegas by the FBI, since the 80s.

[Sanjeem]

I think we will see the Mafia, and probably some ghetto street gangs.

The Italian Mafia actually has very little influence in LA.

 

Something tells me it won't be very gang heavy. More like small-time criminals selling drugs from the boot of their car, very little in the way of large scale organizations. I think after San Andreas they'll have moved on from the gangbanger types too.

Maybe we will see Mafia in Vegas, even there now they are not what they used to be back in the 70's-80's but I'm sure they are still involved in the traditional shake downs, drug trafficking and other rackets. They just don't own a lot of the Casino's and have lost their friends in the Teamsters unions. That being said, the mob in vegas shouldn't be counted out. Just lower profile.

The game is not taking place in LV(it seems that way).

 

Also even if it did, the mafia has been ran out of Los Vegas by the FBI, since the 80s.

Yes it has been chased out a lot, But everywhere in America, In major cities the Italian-Amercian mafia is involved in some illegal racket whether it be illegal gambling and Loan sharking, from Drug trafficking to Labor racketeering, so like in Every GTA game so far, there probably will be a small situtation with the mafia in one way or another.

 

I meainly expect to see though...

 

• Hispanic Gangs

• African-American street gangs

• Mexican drug cartels

• Armenian power since it has a few hundred members committing various rackets.

• Small glimpse of Mafia in some form.

 

 

 

[The Made Man]

I think we will see the Mafia, and probably some ghetto street gangs.

The Italian Mafia actually has very little influence in LA.

 

Something tells me it won't be very gang heavy. More like small-time criminals selling drugs from the boot of their car, very little in the way of large scale organizations. I think after San Andreas they'll have moved on from the gangbanger types too.

Maybe we will see Mafia in Vegas, even there now they are not what they used to be back in the 70's-80's but I'm sure they are still involved in the traditional shake downs, drug trafficking and other rackets. They just don't own a lot of the Casino's and have lost their friends in the Teamsters unions. That being said, the mob in vegas shouldn't be counted out. Just lower profile.

The game is not taking place in LV(it seems that way).

 

Also even if it did, the mafia has been ran out of Los Vegas by the FBI, since the 80s.

Yes it has been chased out a lot, But everywhere in America, In major cities the Italian-Amercian mafia is involved in some illegal racket whether it be illegal gambling and Loan sharking, from Drug trafficking to Labor racketeering, so like in Every GTA game so far, there probably will be a small situtation with the mafia in one way or another.

 

I meainly expect to see though...

 

• Hispanic Gangs

• African-American street gangs

• Mexican drug cartels

• Armenian power since it has a few hundred members committing various rackets.

• Small glimpse of Mafia in some form.

 

 

 

I agree. But also lets not forget Triads, Korean Mob and Biker gangs. Also it is possible to see Russian Mafia, since they have influence on the west side.

[Sanjeem]

I think we will see the Mafia, and probably some ghetto street gangs.

The Italian Mafia actually has very little influence in LA.

 

Something tells me it won't be very gang heavy. More like small-time criminals selling drugs from the boot of their car, very little in the way of large scale organizations. I think after San Andreas they'll have moved on from the gangbanger types too.

Maybe we will see Mafia in Vegas, even there now they are not what they used to be back in the 70's-80's but I'm sure they are still involved in the traditional shake downs, drug trafficking and other rackets. They just don't own a lot of the Casino's and have lost their friends in the Teamsters unions. That being said, the mob in vegas shouldn't be counted out. Just lower profile.

The game is not taking place in LV(it seems that way).

 

Also even if it did, the mafia has been ran out of Los Vegas by the FBI, since the 80s.

Yes it has been chased out a lot, But everywhere in America, In major cities the Italian-Amercian mafia is involved in some illegal racket whether it be illegal gambling and Loan sharking, from Drug trafficking to Labor racketeering, so like in Every GTA game so far, there probably will be a small situtation with the mafia in one way or another.

 

I meainly expect to see though...

 

• Hispanic Gangs

• African-American street gangs

• Mexican drug cartels

• Armenian power since it has a few hundred members committing various rackets.

• Small glimpse of Mafia in some form.

 

 

 

I agree. But also lets not forget Triads, Korean Mob and Biker gangs. Also it is possible to see Russian Mafia, since they have influence on the west side.

Really when people refer to Russian Mafia in LA, They really mean more or less Armenian power, an Armenian gang obviously. Trust me I have done much research on gangs around the world and many eastern european/middle eastern gangs get mistakes for Russian, and sometimes there not even a mafia, just a small lucid group of criminals operating Independently. But yeah, Italian-American mafia has always had a place in every GTA game even though they mainly operate on East Coast, also yes, Triads and Koraen gangs should definitely be included.

[The Made Man]

I think we will see the Mafia, and probably some ghetto street gangs.

The Italian Mafia actually has very little influence in LA.

 

Something tells me it won't be very gang heavy. More like small-time criminals selling drugs from the boot of their car, very little in the way of large scale organizations. I think after San Andreas they'll have moved on from the gangbanger types too.

Maybe we will see Mafia in Vegas, even there now they are not what they used to be back in the 70's-80's but I'm sure they are still involved in the traditional shake downs, drug trafficking and other rackets. They just don't own a lot of the Casino's and have lost their friends in the Teamsters unions. That being said, the mob in vegas shouldn't be counted out. Just lower profile.

The game is not taking place in LV(it seems that way).

 

Also even if it did, the mafia has been ran out of Los Vegas by the FBI, since the 80s.

Yes it has been chased out a lot, But everywhere in America, In major cities the Italian-Amercian mafia is involved in some illegal racket whether it be illegal gambling and Loan sharking, from Drug trafficking to Labor racketeering, so like in Every GTA game so far, there probably will be a small situtation with the mafia in one way or another.

 

I meainly expect to see though...

 

• Hispanic Gangs

• African-American street gangs

• Mexican drug cartels

• Armenian power since it has a few hundred members committing various rackets.

• Small glimpse of Mafia in some form.

 

 

 

I agree. But also lets not forget Triads, Korean Mob and Biker gangs. Also it is possible to see Russian Mafia, since they have influence on the west side.

Really when people refer to Russian Mafia in LA, They really mean more or less Armenian power, an Armenian gang obviously. Trust me I have done much research on gangs around the world and many eastern european/middle eastern gangs get mistakes for Russian, and sometimes there not even a mafia, just a small lucid group of criminals operating Independently. But yeah, Italian-American mafia has always had a place in every GTA game even though they mainly operate on East Coast, also yes, Triads and Koraen gangs should definitely be included.

The Russian Mafia was GTA SA... I looked up on the Russian Mafia and from the sources I gather, the Russian Mob does have some influence in LA, I'm not sure, but thats what I read.

[Sanjeem]

Dude that's from a GTA based database, What I'm talking about is actual real life situations in LA. But yeah, the two get confused.

 

The Ndragheta might have a role in this although I highly doubt it, but they do have a strong link with Mexican Cartels due to the monopoly they have in Europe in the cocaine trade.

[The Made Man]

Dude that's from a GTA based database, What I'm talking about is actual real life situations in LA. But yeah, the two get confused.

 

The Ndragheta might have a role in this although I highly doubt it, but they do have a strong link with Mexican Cartels due to the monopoly they have in Europe in the cocaine trade.

Uhhh, I wasn't talking about the gta Russian Mafia, but the real Russian Mafia in LA...

[Razzerian]

*Armenian mob

*Russian mob

*Turkish mob

*Gangbangers

*Mexican cartel

*Colombian cartel

*Latino street gangs

 

Ooh and some wannebe white boys like in Breaking bad

[LewisMiller]

A Skinhead gang j4j?

[GANGSTA26-VERCETTI]

THE TRIADS!!!

Da Nang Boys.

[grope_4_that_date]

I just thought of this while reading the thread—

What if there were corrupted police officers that could be considered “gangs.” At night, when the player is walking around, police offers in groups would slowly walk over towards you and start beating you up. (You wouldn’t get a wanted level.) They’d take out there knight sticks and start kicking the crap out of you. There would be nothing you could do... they're cops.

[GANGSTA26-VERCETTI]

I just thought of this while reading the thread—

What if there were corrupted police officers that could be considered “gangs.” At night, when the player is walking around, police offers in groups would slowly walk over towards you and start beating you up. (You wouldn’t get a wanted level.) They’d take out there knight sticks and start kicking the crap out of you. There would be nothing you could do... they're cops.

But they are a gang.

[The Made Man]

I really really want the Aryan Brotherhood and Mexican Mafia to be in the game!!!

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6jJfws03Ss

[Big_Mitch_Baker]

Gangs I can (almost) guarentee you will see in GTAV:

 

- Desert Cobras (maybe AoD) (or equivelent Biker gang, seeing as the real life 81 started in So. Cal. Also Lester Arnold, the founder of the Angels of Death is supposed to be from San Fierro according to the GTAIV police database, so maybe it'll be them instead)

- Crips and Bloods equivelent (Grove and Ballas, but likely with new names)

- Mexican gangbangers (like VLA, probably renamed something more like M13)

- Mexican Drug Cartel (It's in the news, so it'll be in GTA)

- Italian mafia (although I agree they will only have a small role, but the Mafia have been in pretty much every GTA game to date)

- Triads or Yakuza (there are a LOT of asians on the west coast)

- Irish Mob (Not entirely sure about this one, but they were in IV and I can see them returning in some form)

Edited November 13, 2011 by Big_Mitch_Baker

[lilblood21]

SO pretty much every single post in this topic is exactly the same.

 

The real question is, will the gangs be a major role in MP? Like when you head to there turf in MP and see one member and start a fight, will more gang members of that gang appear and attack you? That would be swick.

[Sanjeem]

Gangs I can (almost) guarentee you will see in GTAV:

 

- Desert Cobras (maybe AoD) (or equivelent Biker gang, seeing as the real life 81 started in So. Cal. Also Lester Arnold, the founder of the Angels of Death is supposed to be from San Fierro according to the GTAIV police database, so maybe it'll be them instead)

- Crips and Bloods equivelent (Grove and Ballas, but likely with new names)

- Mexican gangbangers (like VLA, probably renamed something more like M13)

- Mexican Drug Cartel (It's in the news, so it'll be in GTA)

- Italian mafia (although I agree they will only have a small role, but the Mafia have been in pretty much every GTA game to date)

- Triads or Yakuza (there are a LOT of asians on the west coast)

- Irish Mob (Not entirely sure about this one, but they were in IV and I can see them returning in some form)

I can agree with this, not sure about the Irish gang though, if we are talking about LV as well then they probably do have some Irish gangs there. However yeah, Mexican Cartels are number one on the west coast, extremely violent, more than other crime groups like the mafia who are more secretive so I think we will see them since they are always on the news. The Mafia will play a small role, as it's presence is more or less on the east/mid-west of America, so small role in SA I think.

[Malakov]

I can't see an Irish gang being in GTA 5 and maybe we won't see any Italians either as neither group have a major presence on the west coast according to what I have read.

 

I hope their is a lot of interaction between the protagonist/s and the gangs/mobs, rather than them just standing around like in GTA 4. It would be good to have a Fallout NV type system where if you upset one gang another gang likes you and vice versa.

 

Numerous small non-storyline missions that are linked to the gangs would be good too. Like you had to stand on street corners and sell drugs to NPC's and at times the cops would try to bust you or rival gangs would try to tax your drugs and money. I want something fresh like this in the game otherwise I'll tire of it quite quickly. The (relatively) linear storylines of the GTA games (+RDR) are starting to wear thin for me so I want the gameworld to be a lot more immersive.

 

The gangs I think we'll see are:

 

Crips/Bloods (with different names)

Latino Street Gangs

Korean Gangs

Cambodian Gangs

Armenian Gangs

Biker Gangs

Russian Mafia

Biker Gangs

 

 

 

[Vegetarian Piranha]

what about a surf/beach gang.. (bra boys, australia.)

 

 

[Cali_Legeend]

I want all those gangs in gta v but mostly the asian boyz and the crips

I also want there to be random gang fights and maybe yyou can join a gang as the protagonists thats basically what I just want for gta v

[Mafioso86]

If one is to believe the "Rush"rumors which I am inclined to (unless Rush is the codename for Agent) these characters may shed some light on the gang situation:

 

Miguel Gonzalez:

25 Young Mexican American FBI agent, caught between a few mob bosses. Very clean cut

 

Harut Vartanyan:

42-52 years old - Armenian car dealer, moneylender, would be Fagin and would be bully. Heavily connected to the underworld, but irritates people so much no one likes him.

 

Tae Wong:

39 - somewhat incompetent Chinese mobster, loves doing ecstasy, going to raves.

 

Taes Translator:

45 - VERY STRAIGHT LACED Chinese translator, terrified of his boss's dad. Male, awkward. Needs to speak Chinese.

 

It all sounds much more "mob" oriented and what we've seen of Ned Luke's character would seem to fit more of that model as well. That doesn't mean that we won't see street gangs, (I know that Armenian, Hispanic and White Street gangs in LA are often employed and recruited from by the Armenian/Russian Mobs, Mexican Cartels/Mexican Mafia and Outlaw Bikers/Aryan Brotherhood) but I'm starting to suspect that the tone will be similar to IV in the sense that we may work with people like Playboy X or Elizabeta, but I don't think it'll be central to the main part of the story. It makes even more sense of Ned Luke's character is the protagonist as it's hard to see him being super involved with Crips or MS-13 but not so hard to imagine him working with the Cartels or Russian Mafia.

 

[Official General]

@ Razzerian

 

You mentioned Turkish gangs ?? Not at all. I really don't know where you got the idea for Turkish gangs. Turkish gangs are not known to exist in Los Angeles, and even if they do, they certainly are not of any significance in the LA underworld and gangland scene. So no, we will not be seeing Turkish gangs in GTA V.

 

@ Big Mitch Baker

 

I'm sorry but disagree with you when you say the Irish Mob will appear in GTA V. The Irish Mob is not known to have any kind of significant presence or influence on organized crime in Los Angeles, the state of California or the whole West Coast for that matter. I cannot see the Irish Mob appearing in GTA V (unless if the McCrearys make a cameo appearnce, that is a big 'if' ). The rest the gangs you stated are pretty much accurate.

 

@ Sanjeem

 

There is no confusion between the Armenian gangs and the Russian Mob on the West Coast being mistaken as the 'same'. The Russian Mob does have its own significant presence and some influence on organized crime in Los Angeles/California and the West Coast, but not as much as they do in New York and the East Coast. The Armenian gangs in LA/California are very powerful and influential there and they are a completely seperate and different group from the West Coast Russian Mob. The Made Man is right. The Russian and Armenian mobs/gangs in California are not the same and they both exist in the same West Coast regions seperately of each other. I mean after all, the Russian Mob were featured in San Andreas, that should tell you something, or give you an idea at least.

 

However, I agree with you in saying we will still see the Italian-American Mafia GTA V, but on a much smaller scale than we saw in GTA IV. You are correct, the Italian-American Mafia still is very active in California, but their influence and presence there is not that great anymore, and it is very moderate compared with other regions in the US, like the North-East and maybe the Midwest, where Mafia influence and power is still very strong, even in today's times.

 

@ Everyone

 

I'd like to see a suburban-based wannabe street gang made up of predominantly, middle-class, young White American males who try to act real tough and 'gangsta', and attempt to to become big-time drug-dealers and hustlers. They don't need to it for money, they just do it because they think its cool. I'd love to see gang in GTA V like that, as you have many gangs like that in LA. Has anyone seen the movie "Alpha Dog" with Justin Timberlake in it ? if you have, you will know what I'm talking about!

Edited November 14, 2011 by Official General

[Jesus Pineda]

Sur 13

 

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR...xd44_jIcnN-AFiU

[The Made Man]

I say the gang life should be like this.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXXnutrgxww

[LordXayd]

I apologize in advance if this is flamebait. I don't mean it to me. I also apologize for my verbosity, but I promise the reply to be a worthy read.

 

The first GTA game I ever played was SA. My friend insisted that I try it even though the thought of playing as some tatter-dressed washed-up disorganized simple street thug did not interest me in the slightest. Low and behold I loved it. Don't know how many hours I racked up on it, but I still play it from time to time.

 

GTA IV finally released and my main character is instead mafia. I found that incredibly boring and had very little to do with something called Grand Theft Auto. It didnt have the grit of the streets, just mafia ladder climbing and power plays. I wanted more of the chop shops, the trash-talking, the thieving-because-you-werent-part-of-a-rich-organization (ever), the car customization to reflect your clan, the spitting in the face of cops/FBI/army because you werent trying to run some respectible front or have paid-off judges/cops/politicians, and most of all the ACTUAL STEALING of cars, not taking cab rides around for your respectable self with no actual need/desire to even store a stolen car. Never mind the plethora of sandbox elements that GTA IV didnt have that SA did, that alone made the game pretty boring for me.

 

Seeing that GTA V is set in Los Santos is very exciting for someone like me. I'm not saying that I have to be Carl, but I definitely want to be a pee-on-the-cops-shoes up and coming gangmember. It would be ludicrous to not have the GS OG's in the game because we left them in control in SA. And Grove Street is in LS, not in LV or SF. But I'm not saying that we should be GS again. I think a new game moving into Los Santos to attempt to establish control would be pretty interesting, with a lot of good emotional impact for the veteran SA players. The assumption would have to be that Carl is killed or gone and GS has been corrupted and therefore no longer has the right to rule the streets. But they are powerful, so they'd have to be dealt with.

 

I know the sales figure state that GTA IV is the most popular GTA ever, but to me it barely qualified as a sandbox. With the lack of garages/car customization/motivation to steal cars, lack of built-in sandbox elements like the wonderful motorcycle leap (with parachute) off the tower. In fact, the only built-in elements that I found besides pool and bowling (and poor designed bowling at that) was jumps, and not nearly as many as there were in SA. I truely fail to understand why the game was even popular when it didnt live up to its literal namesake or its sandbox genre, but I understand I have the minority opinion on that. I sold it 3 weeks after I bought it for a mere $6 at Gamestop (PS3 version) because they had so many that they couldnt get rid of that I believe that effectively proves that its replay value just wasnt there, a significant indicator of a lack of sandbox play, and therefore its inflated sales figures are not a proper representation of game quality. In fact, I dare say that those sales figures actually reflect SA, as gamers assumed they would get something at least as fun.

 

However, we are back in Los Santos now, so perhaps Rockstar has listened to folks like myself. After shelling out $60 and expelling too many years of held breath only to be presented with what was effectively a linear walkthrough, I became dubious about trusting Rockstar to do something more than sell a game on hype. But I am excited by this latest news. So here's hoping...

[MG3]

Most important:

 

Grove st

Ballas

 

BTW, they can improve those asian gang in SF.

[Mafioso86]

I apologize in advance if this is flamebait. I don't mean it to me. I also apologize for my verbosity, but I promise the reply to be a worthy read.

 

The first GTA game I ever played was SA. My friend insisted that I try it even though the thought of playing as some tatter-dressed washed-up disorganized simple street thug did not interest me in the slightest. Low and behold I loved it. Don't know how many hours I racked up on it, but I still play it from time to time.

 

GTA IV finally released and my main character is instead mafia. I found that incredibly boring and had very little to do with something called Grand Theft Auto. It didnt have the grit of the streets, just mafia ladder climbing and power plays. I wanted more of the chop shops, the trash-talking, the thieving-because-you-werent-part-of-a-rich-organization (ever), the car customization to reflect your clan, the spitting in the face of cops/FBI/army because you werent trying to run some respectible front or have paid-off judges/cops/politicians, and most of all the ACTUAL STEALING of cars, not taking cab rides around for your respectable self with no actual need/desire to even store a stolen car. Never mind the plethora of sandbox elements that GTA IV didnt have that SA did, that alone made the game pretty boring for me.

 

Seeing that GTA V is set in Los Santos is very exciting for someone like me. I'm not saying that I have to be Carl, but I definitely want to be a pee-on-the-cops-shoes up and coming gangmember. It would be ludicrous to not have the GS OG's in the game because we left them in control in SA. And Grove Street is in LS, not in LV or SF. But I'm not saying that we should be GS again. I think a new game moving into Los Santos to attempt to establish control would be pretty interesting, with a lot of good emotional impact for the veteran SA players. The assumption would have to be that Carl is killed or gone and GS has been corrupted and therefore no longer has the right to rule the streets. But they are powerful, so they'd have to be dealt with.

 

I know the sales figure state that GTA IV is the most popular GTA ever, but to me it barely qualified as a sandbox. With the lack of garages/car customization/motivation to steal cars, lack of built-in sandbox elements like the wonderful motorcycle leap (with parachute) off the tower. In fact, the only built-in elements that I found besides pool and bowling (and poor designed bowling at that) was jumps, and not nearly as many as there were in SA. I truely fail to understand why the game was even popular when it didnt live up to its literal namesake or its sandbox genre, but I understand I have the minority opinion on that. I sold it 3 weeks after I bought it for a mere $6 at Gamestop (PS3 version) because they had so many that they couldnt get rid of that I believe that effectively proves that its replay value just wasnt there, a significant indicator of a lack of sandbox play, and therefore its inflated sales figures are not a proper representation of game quality. In fact, I dare say that those sales figures actually reflect SA, as gamers assumed they would get something at least as fun.

 

However, we are back in Los Santos now, so perhaps Rockstar has listened to folks like myself. After shelling out $60 and expelling too many years of held breath only to be presented with what was effectively a linear walkthrough, I became dubious about trusting Rockstar to do something more than sell a game on hype. But I am excited by this latest news. So here's hoping...

Have you tried Saints Row? I understand where you're coming from as I definitely missed a lot of the San Andreas features in IV, but I still thought it was an incredible game in its own way. But to me it sounds like you want mindless F the system gang shootouts and customization; things that Saint's Row is pretty good for... that is if you can get past the groan inducing jokes and writing and over the topness that makes jet packs and armed model planes seem realistic.

[LordXayd]

I apologize in advance if this is flamebait. I don't mean it to me. I also apologize for my verbosity, but I promise the reply to be a worthy read.

 

    The first GTA game I ever played was SA. My friend insisted that I try it even though the thought of playing as some tatter-dressed washed-up disorganized simple street thug did not interest me in the slightest. Low and behold I loved it. Don't know how many hours I racked up on it, but I still play it from time to time.

 

    GTA IV finally released and my main character is instead mafia. I found that incredibly boring and had very little to do with something called Grand Theft Auto. It didnt have the grit of the streets, just mafia ladder climbing and power plays. I wanted more of the chop shops, the trash-talking, the thieving-because-you-werent-part-of-a-rich-organization (ever), the car customization to reflect your clan, the spitting in the face of cops/FBI/army because you werent trying to run some respectible front or have paid-off judges/cops/politicians, and most of all the ACTUAL STEALING of cars, not taking cab rides around for your respectable self with no actual need/desire to even store a stolen car. Never mind the plethora of sandbox elements that GTA IV didnt have that SA did, that alone made the game pretty boring for me.

 

    Seeing that GTA V is set in Los Santos is very exciting for someone like me. I'm not saying that I have to be Carl, but I definitely want to be a pee-on-the-cops-shoes up and coming gangmember. It would be ludicrous to not have the GS OG's in the game because we left them in control in SA. And Grove Street is in LS, not in LV or SF. But I'm not saying that we should be GS again. I think a new game moving into Los Santos to attempt to establish control would be pretty interesting, with a lot of good emotional impact for the veteran SA players. The assumption would have to be that Carl is killed or gone and GS has been corrupted and therefore no longer has the right to rule the streets. But they are powerful, so they'd have to be dealt with.

 

    I know the sales figure state that GTA IV is the most popular GTA ever, but to me it barely qualified as a sandbox. With the lack of garages/car customization/motivation to steal cars, lack of built-in sandbox elements like the wonderful motorcycle leap (with parachute) off the tower. In fact, the only built-in elements that I found besides pool and bowling (and poor designed bowling at that) was jumps, and not nearly as many as there were in SA. I truely fail to understand why the game was even popular when it didnt live up to its literal namesake or its sandbox genre, but I understand I have the minority opinion on that. I sold it 3 weeks after I bought it for a mere $6 at Gamestop (PS3 version) because they had so many that they couldnt get rid of that I believe that effectively proves that its replay value just wasnt there, a significant indicator of a lack of sandbox play, and therefore its inflated sales figures are not a proper representation of game quality. In fact, I dare say that those sales figures actually reflect SA, as gamers assumed they would get something at least as fun.

 

      However, we are back in Los Santos now, so perhaps Rockstar has listened to folks like myself. After shelling out $60 and expelling too many years of held breath only to be presented with what was effectively a linear walkthrough, I became dubious about trusting Rockstar to do something more than sell a game on hype. But I am excited by this latest news. So here's hoping...

Have you tried Saints Row? I understand where you're coming from as I definitely missed a lot of the San Andreas features in IV, but I still thought it was an incredible game in its own way. But to me it sounds like you want mindless F the system gang shootouts and customization; things that Saint's Row is pretty good for... that is if you can get past the groan inducing jokes and writing and over the topness that makes jet packs and armed model planes seem realistic.

I love Saints Row, but I didnt want to get overly flamed.

[mafiahitman14]

Mafia better be there because its always mafia that makes every grand theft auto game super fun and awesome

 

since the Mafia is also powerful than gangs there's alot fun stuff u get to do like rob a military base or steal a fighter jet and blow up buildings and those kind of cool sh*t.

 

but im not saying gangs are bad, i love the gangs in San andreas

[DXfan01]

I wanna see all flyers and tats

 

for yall that don't know flyers are shoes that are really big in the gang scene out here in LA come to Inlgwood youll see

 

I wanna see all flyers and tats for yall that don't know flyers are shoes that are really big in the gang scene out here in LA come to Inglewood youll see.. a lot of times you know immediately if a someone bangs or not

 

 

[Kwandilibro]

I wanna see all flyers and tats

 

for yall that don't know flyers are shoes that are really big in the gang scene out here in LA come to Inlgwood youll see

 

I wanna see all flyers and tats for yall that don't know flyers are shoes that are really big in the gang scene out here in LA come to Inglewood youll see.. a lot of times you know immediately if a someone bangs or not

 

 

I thought they wore chuck T's in LA?

 

And @Mafiakissass2023975 up there, I'm fairly sure the mafia does not rob military bases and blow up building with fighter jets. Not quite sure what hole you pulled that one from.