BoringAdultWithAFatGirlfriend Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 FIRST OFF: I've been following the "official" trailer thread for the last day or so. It's insanely long and I read the whole thing. I work full time and haven't had a chance to follow these forums or sign up until tonight. I searched "protagonist ethnicity" and found nothing so if this has already been posted, mods delete this thread or flame me, whatever. When R* north releases something, they are fine-tuned in making it cryptic but decipherable. When they release something as big as a first trailer for GTA5 they are damn well intent that every single one of us is going to nitpick it to death and try and decode it. More than a few people have picked up a hispanic accent (which I don't hear) but it seems like most every shot matches up word for word with what the narrator is describing and it's definitely pointing that way. Listen for yourselves. The shots that point me in the Hispanic direction are: "from what i was doing, you know, that" -shots of people hiking through the wilderness WITH backpacks "that line of work" -convertible hiding soft top both show the means for smugglers to hide contraband. Backpacks across treacherous regions and hidden compartments in vehicles. If any of you (which I'm sure EVERYONE has) seen an episode of Border Wars or similar programming, you'll get it. Sure, the scenes are disguised in every day activities but I think that's the code R* was going for. skip "came here" shot of the 5 north" "sit in the sun" -day laborers getting doused with pesticide The interstate 5 is the freeway that travels from Tijuana to British Columbia. The shot where he says "came here" shows the 5 northbound. "Sit in the sun" shows day laborers (which to anyone in California will know, are usually hispanic). The sit in the sun paradox is what most Mexican Americans are greeted with once they arrive on our mainland: Hard labor and the proverbial American d*ck for it. I live in Los Angeles and the dialogue in bold has solidified my hypothesis that the protagonist will be Hispanic. R* goes for the pressing issues and our southern border has definitely made a name for itself in the media within the last few years. Niko traveled from the East, Mr No Name has traveled from the South. My two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jogy Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 That's an interesting find you got there. There where rumours that the main character could be hispanic. But it seems like you connected the dots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuantanamoObama Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I certainly hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turin88 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Interesting theory. Still not 100% convinced though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WF the Hobgoblin Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I don't think the narrator sounds hispanic in the slightest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattymcs Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 The fact that his voice didn't sound even slightly Hispanic was an indication to me that he wasn't Hispanic. He's white, middle aged, and on the balcony half way through the trailer, I'm sure. When he says that line of work he's talking about criminal activities in general. It's a standard GTA backstory that is somewhat similar to Nikos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamerShotgun Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Judging from the voice of that guy, I'd rather expect the protag to be Italian. Not because of his "accent", but his overall appearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jogy Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Interesting theory. Still not 100% convinced though. We have to wait till Rockstar comes with more information and a new trailer to be sure :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WF the Hobgoblin Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 The fact that his voice didn't sound even slightly Hispanic was an indication to me that he wasn't Hispanic. He's white, middle aged, and on the balcony half way through the trailer, I'm sure. When he says that line of work he's talking about criminal activities in general. It's a standard GTA backstory that is somewhat similar to Nikos. Agreed. I don't care where his grandparents are from or whatever, the narrator is clearly a white american and most likely the dark haired, middle-aged guy. Also my money would be on him moving to Los Santos from Liberty City. It's practically a tradition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoringAdultWithAFatGirlfriend Posted November 4, 2011 Author Share Posted November 4, 2011 Like I said, it's just a hypothesis. R* has thrown the "terrorism" element into their games before (homeland security, bridges closed, etc). I just noticed that if you match the dialogue to the scenes that coincide with them, some of them point DIRECTLY towards a mexico/US dilemna which has been widely streamlined into mainstream media within the last few years. Much like Niko represented from the east on the last installment. You cant argue that "came here" and showing the 5 north (a freeway that connects Mexico and LA at two hours driving time) doesn't say something, even if just speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamerShotgun Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I for myself still go with the Italian theory, since he even says that he came to Los Santos and bought a house. He must have a serious amount of cash, if he just walks in, buys a house and does nothing. That could lead to a possible business associate to one of the Mafia families, OR, he could be a made men, on the run from the Mafia... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo_Override Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I for myself still go with the Italian theory, since he even says that he came to Los Santos and bought a house. He must have a serious amount of cash, if he just walks in, buys a house and does nothing. That could lead to a possible business associate to one of the Mafia families, OR, he could be a made men, on the run from the Mafia... Buying the house could have been a while ago, and he may have fallen on hard times by the beginning of the game story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoringAdultWithAFatGirlfriend Posted November 4, 2011 Author Share Posted November 4, 2011 I for myself still go with the Italian theory, since he even says that he came to Los Santos and bought a house. He must have a serious amount of cash, if he just walks in, buys a house and does nothing. That could lead to a possible business associate to one of the Mafia families, OR, he could be a made men, on the run from the Mafia... You are disregarding the speculations I've made from the trailer entirely. I don't care what he is. I'm just saying. I didn't hear an accent. 80 percent of my friends are hispanic and speak without an accent. If R* wanted to hammer it into us where he's from and a possible plot giveaway, they would have had him. I just noticed a few kew shots matching up with stuff I'm surrounded by. And if you don't think cartels have money, I shouldn't have to point you to this but alas: Wikipedia "The U.S. Department of Justice estimates that wholesale earnings from illicit drug sales range from $13.6 billion to $48.4 billion annually." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Zoidberg Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I dont get how the narrator's voice sounds Hispanic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDragonsBOOM Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 First the guys voice isn't hispanic at all. Second they already did the story of poor immigrant from a 2nd world country in the last game. As stated by Dan Houser in a very recent interview he said R* always wants to do something new, and seeing as how GTA is R*'s bread and butter they wouldn't creatively wanna make the same story twice in a row. Theres MUCH more going on in this game that we have no clue about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoringAdultWithAFatGirlfriend Posted November 4, 2011 Author Share Posted November 4, 2011 I dont get how the narrator's voice sounds Hispanic... It doesn't. But I don't think it necessarily needs to be. This forum is all speculation. I just think that if R* needs a hotbed for social commentary within a Los Angeles-based environment, all signs point to that. disregarding the ps2 era games, R* hit their stride with bringing over Niko post 9/11 into a NY based environment and let him fight his way to the top. Giving the climate down here, I think having a Hispanic protagonist might be what they would go for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshGTAfreak Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I don't think they would put that much effort into any sort of hidden clues. I think people are looking into this a bit too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoringAdultWithAFatGirlfriend Posted November 4, 2011 Author Share Posted November 4, 2011 I don't think they would put that much effort into any sort of hidden clues. I think people are looking into this a bit too much. R* North was founded over a decade ago. GTA4 has sold over 22 million copies. If you don't think in the time and sales that followed the fellows over there haven't picked up on how people like you and I circle jerk over GTA forums pending information and a release date, you're delusional. If you don't watch film and piece together what's being said and what's being shown, then you're not looking hard enough. Watch for yourself. The OP was only my personal conjecture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueTroll Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I don't think the narrator sounds hispanic in the slightest. Nope same here, i cant place my finger on what he sounds like but i wouldn't say hispanic. It's a puzzling one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip87 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 (edited) Good, points, however, first he says he came to LS for the weather, which would be similar to mexico, so no point in that. You mention he might've been an illegal immigrant. He also mentions he bought a big house, which wouldn't be likely in the case he's an illegal. The scene with the backpackers would refer to the narrator wishing to do the same. Just get away from work and do stuff like that. My guess is the protag is someone from the middle circles of the Liberty City crime scene. Someone who's past we can relate to, but also isn't too rich or experienced and is new to LS. Edited November 4, 2011 by Zip87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoringAdultWithAFatGirlfriend Posted November 4, 2011 Author Share Posted November 4, 2011 Good, points, however, first he says he came to LS for the weather, which would be similar to mexico, so no point in that. Good point on the weather. However, weather doesn't have to imply temperature. Mexico is an entirely different "climate" than the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Can I flame you for your choice in user name, OP? As for the Protagonist, there are plenty of topics about who he is and his age, that falls in line with what race or background he is, but complicating things a bit, still a persistent rumor of more then one character we can play in this game. I'd like that dispelled. but Anywho, I mentioned he could have a slight Mexican accent I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueTroll Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Can I flame you for your choice in user name, OP? As for the Protagonist, there are plenty of topics about who he is and his age, that falls in line with what race or background he is, but complicating things a bit, still a persistent rumor of more then one character we can play in this game. I'd like that dispelled. but Anywho, I mentioned he could have a slight Mexican accent I guess I dont think your in a position to flame anyone for anything, do you? And secondly, why would you like it dispelled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip87 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Knowing Rockstar, I still cling to my idea of a Liberty City mob refugee. The accent itself reminds me more of the McRearys: Since the Housers are also from Great Britain and they like to implement irish, english, scottish characters I'd say the narrator is in connection with the McReary. I remember Packie taking a flight in one of the credits, but not sure where he's headed. Correct me if i'm wrong. Just my theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Zoidberg Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 he could be implying some sort of sarcasm with the whole speech before "well.. you know how it is" part. So it doesnt necessarily mean he bought a big house or came here (SA) for the weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoringAdultWithAFatGirlfriend Posted November 4, 2011 Author Share Posted November 4, 2011 Knowing Rockstar, I still cling to my idea of a Liberty City mob refugee. The accent itself reminds me more of the McRearys: Since the Housers are also from Great Britain and they like to implement irish, english, scottish characters I'd say the narrator is in connection with the McReary. I remember Packie taking a flight in one of the credits, but not sure where he's headed. Correct me if i'm wrong. Just my theory. I loved Packie. I love GTA4. However, I think that they are tied into each other in regards to their demographics. Rockstar could randomly bring an Irish dude like Packie into the LA environment, however, this area has ZERO predominantly Irish neighborhoods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip87 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Knowing Rockstar, I still cling to my idea of a Liberty City mob refugee. The accent itself reminds me more of the McRearys: Since the Housers are also from Great Britain and they like to implement irish, english, scottish characters I'd say the narrator is in connection with the McReary. I remember Packie taking a flight in one of the credits, but not sure where he's headed. Correct me if i'm wrong. Just my theory. I loved Packie. I love GTA4. However, I think that they are tied into each other in regards to their demographics. Rockstar could randomly bring an Irish dude like Packie into the LA environment, however, this area has ZERO predominantly Irish neighborhoods. Just implying the guy might have a subtle irish bloodline thing going on, not a full on irishman And the thing i'm noticing is the areas and atmosphere look like it'll be influenced by shows like Breaking Bad, Weeds or Sons of Anarchy and the latter is located in California and features plenty of characters with brit origins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuantanamoObama Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Knowing Rockstar, I still cling to my idea of a Liberty City mob refugee. The accent itself reminds me more of the McRearys: Since the Housers are also from Great Britain and they like to implement irish, english, scottish characters I'd say the narrator is in connection with the McReary. I remember Packie taking a flight in one of the credits, but not sure where he's headed. Correct me if i'm wrong. Just my theory. I loved Packie. I love GTA4. However, I think that they are tied into each other in regards to their demographics. Rockstar could randomly bring an Irish dude like Packie into the LA environment, however, this area has ZERO predominantly Irish neighborhoods. Just implying the guy might have a subtle irish bloodline thing going on, not a full on irishman And the thing i'm noticing is the areas and atmosphere look like it'll be influenced by shows like Breaking Bad, Weeds or Sons of Anarchy and the latter is located in California and features plenty of characters with brit origins. Lol, yeah. He's Irish-American, he's not like an actual Irish guy. My mom was from Ireland, but I don't go around saying I'm Irish nationals don't consider me "Irish", at least not the same sense they would consider the people they interact with daily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillz7855 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 There are Hispanics that sound white. See Compare these two voices Clifton Collins Jr is the guy talking in the interview and he is hispanic and also played Cesar in GTA SA Trailer Lesson very close and carefully to both of them and they sound the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuantanamoObama Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 There are Hispanics that sound white. See Compare these two voices Clifton Collins Jr is the guy talking in the interview and he is hispanic and also played Cesar in GTA SA Trailer Lesson very close and carefully to both of them and they sound the same. It doesn't match GTA, though. If you were to play as a Mexican in GTA, you could tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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