Trideez Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Grove Street gangs were set a while back, it's been quite some years now and the gang would surely be either completely wiped out, or small by now. I'm guessing most of their members would have aged, been arrested and/or been killed. I mean, they'll probably keep the street, but it will be probably ran down and just be a "ghost town". But, I'm guessing the Grove Street area will have some sort of Easter Egg, maybe in one of the original SA characters' house? (E.G. Smoke or CJ's house). Well you're from the UK so I guess I can't blame you for not understanding LA Gangs. But LA gangs don't die off after a couple years. Gangs like the Rollin 60 Crips, Eight Tray Gangsta Crips, Black P Stone Bloods, Grape Street Crips, Hoovers, Inglewood Family Gangsta Bloods, Denver Lane Bloods, the list goes on and on and on, have been there for DECADES. From the late 60's/early 70's all the way to present day. One LA Gang, the East Coast Crips have over 20,000 members. In other words, they aren't going anywhere any time soon. LA Gangs dont die, they multiply. And seeing as how Grove Street Families was a major gang, it's f*ckin guaranteed they are still there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkshade12 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 I think the Grove street gang will be in there (Excluding the main character from SA because they don't exist in this era.) Lol, how can you have the grove street gang with out some acknowledgement of the founders? This "new era" and "new universe" stuff is fanmade Rockstar said themselves when they made IV it was a new universe and no characters would return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lampka12 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 They will stole your valet there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortyduwaaap Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 People who don't think Grove Street or the Families and Ballas (ballsacks, lol) will be in the game are failing to understand a couple things. 1. All the streets in GTA IV were Named, you REALLY don't think there's going to be a Grove Street in the game? Grove Street is probably the ONLY street you can name in the whole state of San Andreas, OF COURSE it will be in the game. 2. Crips and Bloods are as iconic to Los Angeles as Hollywood is. If it doesn't have them in it, it's NOT LA. If it doesn't have Families and Ballas in it, it's NOT LS. Gang culture defines LA. It will absolutely play a part in the game, and I'd bet $500 that there will be DLC where we play as a gangbanger. WELL PUT!!! LA is synonymous with gangs... You can't have LA w/o gangs like you couldn't have LA w/o Hollywood. It's a part of the city. So gangs will DEFINITELY be in the game. I'm not saying it is going to play a role in the game like it did in San An but it will be in there and why have gangs in there and then not at least mention grove street????? You're going to ignore a gang b/c you've already done it? If that was the case, they would've scrapped doing the city of LA b/c they did that already too!!! THE STREET "GROVE STREET" WILL BE IN THE GAME!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAknowledge Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 if the site of the now demolished' grove' was marked with a memorial to 'heroic poice officer tennpenny' that would simply be an awesome little easteregg. i was playing GTA SA and noticed on the radio (WCTR) they said the government was searching for Tennpenny and Pulaski for prosecution and they were missing. I don't think they will be remember in a heroic way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loony979 Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Ya know what will happn when we get to grove street in GTA V get out the champagne, Get the old Trainer, out spawn out some Dj lights, Crank some tunes up & 32 players are gonna rave out for a month easy .thats whats gonna happn.... But only if Grove street is back. WE CAN ONLY HOPE..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73duster Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 There is NO reason they could'nt include Grove St. It could be a completely run down area, OR a completely renovated block. It was a cul de sac with a bar up the street. I'd LOVE to see how the neighborhood has changed. It should STILL retain a familiarity though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vil. Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 There is NO reason they could'nt include Grove St. Nothing besides the fact Rockstar themselves confirmed that the GTA III era is DEAD. Would you like me to find you the definition of that word? Draw you all a pretty picture, perhaps? Now die. All of you! You'ree deluded! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxvayne Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 There is NO reason they could'nt include Grove St. Nothing besides the fact Rockstar themselves confirmed that the GTA III era is DEAD. Would you like me to find you the definition of that word? Draw you all a pretty picture, perhaps? Now die. All of you! You'ree deluded! Quit spreading lies. Refer to this article. http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=492446&hl= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vil. Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 So I'm a liar because I wonn't fuel your deluded fantasy? I read that article when it was fist published and reading it again it's done nothing but further confirm my supposed "lies". Something tells me you've only read parts of that article you want to read and came to your own conclusions. Apart from being a deluded fantasist, you're ignorant to boot. It's wishful thinking and nothing more. Common sense, logic and rational thought appear to all be extinct on this forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Pink Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Hey I don't think Grove St is going to be in GTA V. It doesn't seem like the new Rockstar. It seems like the old Rockstar to do such a cool thing but I don't think they'll revisit it or include it even as an easter egg. It's a new world, new GTA, blah..blah...blah. Just forget about everything that made them great in the first place. ＲＵＢＢΣＲ░Ｊ♢ＨＮＮＹ （スオッ） Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefinchmeister Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I do hope Grove Street is in the game, not for a main part of the story, but just as a little add on to the mao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rede Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Rockstar said themselves when they made IV it was a new universe and no characters would return. I've a feeling that we may not have seen the last of the Johnson family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73duster Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 There is NO reason they could'nt include Grove St. Nothing besides the fact Rockstar themselves confirmed that the GTA III era is DEAD. Would you like me to find you the definition of that word? Draw you all a pretty picture, perhaps? Now die. All of you! You'ree deluded! WOW! You are a F*CKING DOUCHEBAG. It's one thing to speculate, but a holes like you always talk like you KNOW for sure. Dirtbag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranceking26 Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Looks like the motel in that san andreas mission has been remade (check the screenshots on gtagamings link) so why not grove street? Even if it's just a plain street or sumat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.JimmyHopkins. Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 This is kinda stupid as a topic.OF COURSE they will include Grove street in GTA V ...it's like removing Compton from LA or not making a HIP HOP radio station in the game...or removing the beaches from Vice City... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNathanNS Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Grove will be in it. If CJ is dead, there will probably be a easter egg in graffiti like "GSF" or "CJ G4L" etc, but very faded, barely readable. Maybe even a headstone in the cemetery. But even if grove isn't in GTA V, no doubt we will hear references to the original SA. Like in IV some woman NPC says "I wanna go to San Andreas so baaddd" But all I hope is the gangs are still there. maybe even accept missions from a new GSF leader. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscoLehGo Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 These "new universe" people tend to be abrasive douchebags, they're like the Tea Party of GTA fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vil. Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 (edited) These "new universe" people tend to be abrasive douchebags, they're like the Tea Party of GTA fans When you've been on these forums for a while (I've been here since early '08) and you're bombarded by a sudden influx of exciteable pre-teens constantly spamming the place up with their deluded wishlists, it kinda makes you lose faith in the human race. Speculation is one thing, but a blind belief in something with no basis of an arguement or inclination to listen to any difference in opinion is down right ignorant, especially when the evidence confirms that their deluded wishlists unfortunately won't be coming to fruition and yet they still insist on raving about things that aren't going to happen and fuel each others fantasies. I tend to avoid this section for this sole reason. I'd love to come in here and have some intelligent speculation, but unfortunately members with a double digit IQ are too far and few between, it seems... The pre-'08 members went through this exact same scenario during the buildup to GTA IV. Do a search for "fingerless gloves" and you'll see why established members adopt an abrasive attitude towards newer members. Now it's all Grove Street this, CJ that and actin' gangsta! If people want to run around playing gangsta, then great, luckily there's already a game that caters to that desire. It's called GTA: San Andreas. But this is GTA V... Edited November 10, 2011 by Blacklisted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscoLehGo Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 These "new universe" people tend to be abrasive douchebags, they're like the Tea Party of GTA fans When you've been on these forums for a while (I've been here since early '08) and you're bombarded by a sudden influx of exciteable pre-teens constantly spamming the place up with their deluded wishlists, it kinda makes you lose faith in the human race. Speculation is one thing, but a blind belief in something with no basis of an arguement or inclination to listen to any difference in opinion is down right ignorant, especially when the evidence confirms that their deluded wishlists unfortunately won't be coming to fruition and yet they still insist on raving about things that aren't going to happen and fuel each others fantasies. I tend to avoid this section for this sole reason. I'd love to come in here and have some intelligent speculation, but unfortunately members with a double digit IQ are too far and few between, it seems... The pre-'08 members went through this exact same scenario during the buildup to GTA IV. Do a search for "fingerless gloves" and you'll see why established members adopt an abrasive attitude towards newer members. Now it's all Grove Street this, CJ that and actin' gangsta! If people want to run around playing gangsta, then great, luckily there's already a game that caters to that desire. It's called GTA: San Andreas. But this is GTA V... Yea dude but that's just it, we're ALL speculating and we ALL still know next to nothing, a lot of people on these forums come off as complete dicks when they absolutely shutdown any speculation that doesn't agree with their viewpoint of what the game will be. People aren't asking for another "gangsta" game, they're curious and excited about seeing a few things from the old SA make a reappearance in this new game. Not everyone loved Niko and I think they're anxious about getting another character like that. It sounds like you and a lot of the other "new era" fans had a problem with the theme of SA, which is fine, but try not to sh*t on other fans who enjoyed that theme and would like to see elements of it return. It's really not that big of a deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrejba69 Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I kind of doubt it but i think it would be very good also Madd Dogg's mansion should be on there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FelipeVinhao Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Talking about it... It may sound kind of off topic, but I want a logical explanation from the "universe" or "generation" sickos. If GTA3 "universe" is over, explain me why we can find discs of Madd Dogg, OG Loc and Love Fist around the GTA4 safehouses and jukeboxes on bars? Answers with the words "easter egg" will be ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 (edited) If GTA3 "universe" is over, explain me why we can find discs of Madd Dogg, OG Loc and Love Fist around the GTA4 safehouses and jukeboxes on bars? Answers with the words "easter egg" will be ignored. Why ignore something that is basically true? They're nothing more than eastereggs mate. It's simple as that. If they were all connected wouldn't we have seen,OG Loc, Madd Dogg, Love Fist etc in GTA IV at some point? There's always been more evidence to suggest there are separate "eras", or "universes" than there is that they're all connected. I believe R* put in these eastereggs in to keep familiarity with the other games. Nothing more, nothing less. Edited November 11, 2011 by Miamivicecity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlavouredMilk Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 If GTA3 "universe" is over, explain me why we can find discs of Madd Dogg, OG Loc and Love Fist around the GTA4 safehouses and jukeboxes on bars? Answers with the words "easter egg" will be ignored. Why ignore something that is basically true? They're nothing more than eastereggs mate. It's simple as that. Just checked out your reward, you should get a for that. Haha. Also, you're 100% right, the references to the III era are nothing more than Easter Eggs. They serve no purpose to the game other than for long term GTA fans to catch on and go 'OH, THAT'S FROM GTA[?]' From the names in grafitti, to the CD's to CJ on the television. They're all just Easter Eggs and references and practically non-canon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Made Man Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Has this been discussed on this thread? If so, then I'm a complete noob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FelipeVinhao Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 I still have 0 (zero) convincing answers related to having Madd Dogg, OG Loc and Love Fist on GTA4. Yes, I'm an asshole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlavouredMilk Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 I still have 0 (zero) convincing answers related to having Madd Dogg, OG Loc and Love Fist on GTA4. Yes, I'm an asshole Tip of advice, don't ask a question if you know the answer but won't accept it. Doesn't make you look clever or anything, just a tad arrogant. You're just going to have to accept you're not going to get an answer if you can't accept the answer. Simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 (edited) I still have 0 (zero) convincing answers related to having Madd Dogg, OG Loc and Love Fist on GTA4. Yes, I'm an asshole So other than what you have posted what else is there that says OG Loc, Madd Dogg, Love Fist etc are all alive and well of the time GTA IV takes place? Fact 1: GTA IV has a lot of references to past games. It's well known. Fact 2: No past GTA character/event has ANY inclusion in GTA IV's story at all. Lazlow doesn't count as he's a real life radio personality. It's obvious no matter what anyone says you wont accept an answer. Edited November 11, 2011 by Miamivicecity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FelipeVinhao Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Alright, now I see I hurt someone's feelings. So yes, I have my explanation for all this then. Like it was said before, "universe" for games is something created by fan(boy)s when 2 editions don't seem to connect 100% to each other. GTA takes place in a fiction planet Earth with its own names for its cities. Let's become fictional too for a moment and GTA is our new reality. Let's say we live in present Liberty City (like GTA4's). That said, Madd Dogg, OG Loc and Love Fist are famous musicians. You know them, you may or not like them, but they exist. Let's take CJ and Claude now. The first was never really arrested (cannonically saying), so his many crimes were never recorded. He may've helped OG Loc in the beginning, then Madd Dogg, and was involved in the killing of a corrupt cop that was considered innocent. He was even in Liberty City 20 years ago, but he didn't do more than stealing cars. The other was arrested, had a record of bank robbery, but escaped by lucky, maybe he was considered dead after the Colombians attack to the convoy. He wasn't arrested after that (again cannonically), so he just made a lot of things to Liberty City, but remained nameless. Unless one of them robbed you or killed a relative of yours, you don't know them. Maybe even if this happened, you'd still not know who they are (remember they were never arrested, so they're not known for their giant police record). Put yourself on the shoes of Niko now. He's a foreigner, so he knows even less about CJ or Claude than you, who lived your whole life in Liberty. Were they killed? Makes sense, as they collected many enemies. But even if they were alive, you wouldn't know them. Back to real world. So that's why "easter egg" excuse isn't acceptable. Easter egg is a sign saying "You're not supposed to be here, you know that", or a rock in the shape of a male sexual member, or a crowbar in the middle of an Area 51 parody making you remember another game. The musician are part of the fictional story, so it makes sense if they still appear on GTA10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlavouredMilk Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 (cannonically saying) This. The previous generation games (III, VC, SA, LCS, VCS) are NON-CANON with IV, EFLC and V. It's a different story, same setting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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