gtamann123 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 I think it would be a nice Easter egg to have a cul-de-sac within the new LS's version of Ganton and maybe even name it Grove Street. But I doubt that the Grove gang will have anything to do with the game or that any characters will return. SA and V are in separate universes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAknowledge Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 we're in a new era. So, no. But its the same city? Care to elaborate? Vinewood needs to be there. That big ass building needs to be there. etc. They exist in real life. Grove Street? Doesn't need to be there. It was relevant to SA, now it's not. So it won't be there. At most they could make a street that looks like it but then, "OMG R* sucks they got grove st. all wrong cry cry cry whine whine whine." the new Liberty City only had the same name, but where was Claude's house? Where was Portland? Where was the stadium? Where was Donald Love's buuilding? Get it? Isn't this the Jefferson Motel? Seems much less important than Grove street. I have seen many random buildings which were not important to SA, but they still appeared in the trailer. I don't understand why not to put Grove street in? It was a very important part of Los Santos in that era. A street can't last 20 years? Last i checked it was far from the main city so likely not effected by construction. No. It's not. Go play San Andreas again. Some buildings look like SA's because they exist in real life. Jeezus. And no Grove st was not affected by construction because this isn't the old LS. Therefore it's not there anymore. At most like other people said they'll just give us some easter egg, but not Grove st itself, capisce? How are you so sure. For all you know you could be 100% wrong about everything you said. I'm playing SA atm. That looks like the Jefferson motel, and the surrounding area you can clearly see the neighborhood is run down and old, which is what would be expected for a 20 year difference in the town of Jefferson. If this is in fact the Jefferson Motel, then it shows that Ganton is likely going to look the same. Jefferson is closer to the city area so if that hasn't been demolished, then it's very likely Ganton hasn't changed much. Plus i've seen heaps of buildings that aren't important that were re-used for GTA V in the trailer. The town of Ganton, where Grove Street was at, is based on real life Compton. The Grove street gang is based of the real life gang, Lime Hood Pirus. BOTH Compton and Lime Hood Pirus are still noticeably around in modern real life LA. "Crime in the United States 2010," ranked Compton as the 8th most dangerous city in the country. You guys make it sound like gangs all somehow disappeared altogether in just 20 years and all their houses and street replaced. Anyone from LA please correct me if i'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayan Shaffey Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 huh? It looks run down and old because of a TWENTY YEAR difference? I doubt it, most cities are hunderds of year old and they don't look run down and old. We're are in a new era, some things will return, some things won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubA_iLL_BrothA Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 The area I grew up in died out. Goes to show, you wouldn't know sh*t if you could smell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAknowledge Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 huh? It looks run down and old because of a TWENTY YEAR difference? I doubt it, most cities are hunderds of year old and they don't look run down and old.We're are in a new era, some things will return, some things won't. It was old and run down already to begin with? GTA V is based on modern day LA. Modern Day LA has Compton (Ganton) and the Lime Hood Pirus (Grove street gang). Why they would choose to leave it out would then mean they are ignoring a VERY important part of real LA, Compton, which is known for it's crime. GTA = crime game. Set in LA, the crime central is Compton. Makes perfect sense to have it in there. Most of you guys saying it won't be there are simply basing it off the transition of Liberty city from GTA III to GTA IV and how that changed. You should know by now Rockstar is unpredictable in what they do. Don't come to a conclusion with zero evidence. Just my opinion though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCstuntman Posted November 5, 2011 Author Share Posted November 5, 2011 DID YOU SEE ANY PLACE OR CHARACTER FROM GTA III IN GTA IV? THEN, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE PLACES OR CHARACTERS FROM SAN ANDREAS 2004 IN THIS NEW REMADE LOS SANTOS. Didn't know you worked for Rockstar... Rockstar said in an interview that the old characters from GTA III era are NOT returning. GTA IV was the beginning of a new era. Also look at this: http://images.wikia.com/gtawiki/images/3/3...fiti_(GTA4).png You can find that graffiti in GTA IV. It's some kind of "easter egg" that explains what Rockstar did with the old characters. They are "dead". Key word is in red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D T Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 While Carl Johnson may not exist in the IV/V era, the Grove Street Families gang most likely does. I know Malc briefly mentions Los Santos gangs wars in TLaD, so I take that as GSF existing in the IV era. After all, GSF was the most notorious gang in LS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCstuntman Posted November 5, 2011 Author Share Posted November 5, 2011 Another easteregg they could do would be the cemetary with the names of all who died, maybe some after the end of SA that we don't know about yet, like CJ or Sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman3000 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 If there is Grove Street(which I doubt, since V is the continuation of the IV era, or so it seems), then we would likely see Sweet and Carl return too(though I don't think they are going to play a huge part in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loony979 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 (edited) Im all for it. Edited November 10, 2011 by loony979 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphyfan Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 we're in a new era. So, no. But its the same city? Care to elaborate? Vinewood needs to be there. That big ass building needs to be there. etc. They exist in real life. Grove Street? Doesn't need to be there. It was relevant to SA, now it's not. So it won't be there. At most they could make a street that looks like it but then, "OMG R* sucks they got grove st. all wrong cry cry cry whine whine whine." the new Liberty City only had the same name, but where was Claude's house? Where was Portland? Where was the stadium? Where was Donald Love's buuilding? Get it? Isn't this the Jefferson Motel? Seems much less important than Grove street. I have seen many random buildings which were not important to SA, but they still appeared in the trailer. I don't understand why not to put Grove street in? It was a very important part of Los Santos in that era. A street can't last 20 years? Last i checked it was far from the main city so likely not effected by construction. No. It's not. Go play San Andreas again. Some buildings look like SA's because they exist in real life. Jeezus. And no Grove st was not affected by construction because this isn't the old LS. Therefore it's not there anymore. At most like other people said they'll just give us some easter egg, but not Grove st itself, capisce? How are you so sure. For all you know you could be 100% wrong about everything you said. I'm playing SA atm. That looks like the Jefferson motel, and the surrounding area you can clearly see the neighborhood is run down and old, which is what would be expected for a 20 year difference in the town of Jefferson. If this is in fact the Jefferson Motel, then it shows that Ganton is likely going to look the same. Jefferson is closer to the city area so if that hasn't been demolished, then it's very likely Ganton hasn't changed much. Plus i've seen heaps of buildings that aren't important that were re-used for GTA V in the trailer. The town of Ganton, where Grove Street was at, is based on real life Compton. The Grove street gang is based of the real life gang, Lime Hood Pirus. BOTH Compton and Lime Hood Pirus are still noticeably around in modern real life LA. "Crime in the United States 2010," ranked Compton as the 8th most dangerous city in the country. You guys make it sound like gangs all somehow disappeared altogether in just 20 years and all their houses and street replaced. Anyone from LA please correct me if i'm wrong. To be fair, nearly every apartment building in south central has that U-shape. It's probably just another apartment building, maybe a housing project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphyfan Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 huh? It looks run down and old because of a TWENTY YEAR difference? I doubt it, most cities are hunderds of year old and they don't look run down and old.We're are in a new era, some things will return, some things won't. It was old and run down already to begin with? GTA V is based on modern day LA. Modern Day LA has Compton (Ganton) and the Lime Hood Pirus (Grove street gang). Why they would choose to leave it out would then mean they are ignoring a VERY important part of real LA, Compton, which is known for it's crime. GTA = crime game. Set in LA, the crime central is Compton. Makes perfect sense to have it in there. Most of you guys saying it won't be there are simply basing it off the transition of Liberty city from GTA III to GTA IV and how that changed. You should know by now Rockstar is unpredictable in what they do. Don't come to a conclusion with zero evidence. Just my opinion though. Compton isn't LA, it's its own city. I wonder if they'll make East LA more realistic with the fleshed out hills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAknowledge Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 huh? It looks run down and old because of a TWENTY YEAR difference? I doubt it, most cities are hunderds of year old and they don't look run down and old.We're are in a new era, some things will return, some things won't. It was old and run down already to begin with? GTA V is based on modern day LA. Modern Day LA has Compton (Ganton) and the Lime Hood Pirus (Grove street gang). Why they would choose to leave it out would then mean they are ignoring a VERY important part of real LA, Compton, which is known for it's crime. GTA = crime game. Set in LA, the crime central is Compton. Makes perfect sense to have it in there. Most of you guys saying it won't be there are simply basing it off the transition of Liberty city from GTA III to GTA IV and how that changed. You should know by now Rockstar is unpredictable in what they do. Don't come to a conclusion with zero evidence. Just my opinion though. Compton isn't LA, it's its own city. I wonder if they'll make East LA more realistic with the fleshed out hills. 'Compton is a city in southern Los Angeles County, California, United States, southeast of downtown Los Angeles'. It's in LA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtamann123 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 huh? It looks run down and old because of a TWENTY YEAR difference? I doubt it, most cities are hunderds of year old and they don't look run down and old.We're are in a new era, some things will return, some things won't. It was old and run down already to begin with? GTA V is based on modern day LA. Modern Day LA has Compton (Ganton) and the Lime Hood Pirus (Grove street gang). Why they would choose to leave it out would then mean they are ignoring a VERY important part of real LA, Compton, which is known for it's crime. GTA = crime game. Set in LA, the crime central is Compton. Makes perfect sense to have it in there. Most of you guys saying it won't be there are simply basing it off the transition of Liberty city from GTA III to GTA IV and how that changed. You should know by now Rockstar is unpredictable in what they do. Don't come to a conclusion with zero evidence. Just my opinion though. Compton isn't LA, it's its own city. I wonder if they'll make East LA more realistic with the fleshed out hills. 'Compton is a city in southern Los Angeles County, California, United States, southeast of downtown Los Angeles'. It's in LA. If you want to be technical it is it's own city and is a suburb of LA. But the whole south central region of LA and Compton just blend together into one area culturally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBoyTraks Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 The Jefferson building in San Andreas is based of real life Watts area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trideez Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 People who don't think Grove Street or the Families and Ballas (ballsacks, lol) will be in the game are failing to understand a couple things. 1. All the streets in GTA IV were Named, you REALLY don't think there's going to be a Grove Street in the game? Grove Street is probably the ONLY street you can name in the whole state of San Andreas, OF COURSE it will be in the game. 2. Crips and Bloods are as iconic to Los Angeles as Hollywood is. If it doesn't have them in it, it's NOT LA. If it doesn't have Families and Ballas in it, it's NOT LS. Gang culture defines LA. It will absolutely play a part in the game, and I'd bet $500 that there will be DLC where we play as a gangbanger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john blane Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 it would be nice if CJ made a brief appearence. it would be ace if he is that running guy from the trailer. the gangs could have changed. not worried about gsf or ballas but, r* must put grove street in the game. and, i'll go to that grove street party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trideez Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 The town of Ganton, where Grove Street was at, is based on real life Compton. The Grove street gang is based of the real life gang, Lime Hood Pirus. BOTH Compton and Lime Hood Pirus are still noticeably around in modern real life LA. I agree that both Ganton and the Families will be in GTA V, it's common sense. But I disagree that the GSF is based off of the Lime Hood Pirus. Lime Hood Pirus wear green, that is the ONLY thing they have in common with the Families. The Grape Street Crips wear Purple, that doesn't mean that they are the Ballas in GTA. In fact, there is no way to tell if the Families are the Bloods or Crips. They share similarities to both. For example Families war with other Families, that's a Crip thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracksuit Hitman Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Grove Street gangs were set a while back, it's been quite some years now and the gang would surely be either completely wiped out, or small by now. I'm guessing most of their members would have aged, been arrested and/or been killed. I mean, they'll probably keep the street, but it will be probably ran down and just be a "ghost town". But, I'm guessing the Grove Street area will have some sort of Easter Egg, maybe in one of the original SA characters' house? (E.G. Smoke or CJ's house). aka geobst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandTheftAuto 5SA Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 I would love to buy the Johnson's house as a safe house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracksuit Hitman Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 I would love to buy the Johnson's house as a safe house. I doubt that you'd be given the option to, though. Especially if the protagonist is white. aka geobst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FelipeVinhao Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 I would love to buy the Johnson's house as a safe house. If somehow they add a Grove Street back, to be the same as the GTASA one, I'm guessing CJ's, Sweet's and OG Loc's houses will appear in ruins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamingTheConsole Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 It May Be There But I'm 90% Sure There Won't Be Any Missions Or Storylines To Grove Street As A Comment I Am Only After Reading You Didn't See Claude's House In Liberty City After They Redone Liberty City.Well Guess What They Are Redoing Los Santos And I Doubt It If There Even Is A Grove Street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kas Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 it would be great if it was still there! great because of all the memories of San Andreas. Also would be nice if there was stiil some Grove Street gangsters hanging around. In real life LA nowadays there are definately still Bloods and Crips! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscoLehGo Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 People who don't think Grove Street or the Families and Ballas (ballsacks, lol) will be in the game are failing to understand a couple things. 1. All the streets in GTA IV were Named, you REALLY don't think there's going to be a Grove Street in the game? Grove Street is probably the ONLY street you can name in the whole state of San Andreas, OF COURSE it will be in the game. 2. Crips and Bloods are as iconic to Los Angeles as Hollywood is. If it doesn't have them in it, it's NOT LA. If it doesn't have Families and Ballas in it, it's NOT LS. Gang culture defines LA. It will absolutely play a part in the game, and I'd bet $500 that there will be DLC where we play as a gangbanger. Agreed, they should definitely still be there, I don't think they'll play a major part (and they shouldn't since its already been done) but it would be straight up weird if they dropped off the face of the earth. I think rockstar recognizes how connected players are with SA and will bring back a lot of the stuff we know and love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FelipeVinhao Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 It May Be There But I'm 90% Sure There Won't Be Any Missions Or Storylines To Grove Street As A Comment I Am Only After Reading You Didn't See Claude's House In Liberty City After They Redone Liberty City.Well Guess What They Are Redoing Los Santos And I Doubt It If There Even Is A Grove Street. Well, we couldn't find any of Claude's houses in GTA4 because they were actually very generic places. It can be any warehouse from Dukes/Broker, any alley entrance from Algonquin, and any of those famous X-shaped New York based buildings from whole Liberty City. Just like San Andreas' Grove Street. There are several dead-end streets with huge cul-de-sac in the end around the real LA. So any of these could be Grove Street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkshade12 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 I think the Grove street gang will be in there (Excluding the main character from SA because they don't exist in this era.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscoLehGo Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 I think the Grove street gang will be in there (Excluding the main character from SA because they don't exist in this era.) Lol, how can you have the grove street gang with out some acknowledgement of the founders? This "new era" and "new universe" stuff is fanmade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gutslab Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 People who don't think Grove Street or the Families and Ballas (ballsacks, lol) will be in the game are failing to understand a couple things. 1. All the streets in GTA IV were Named, you REALLY don't think there's going to be a Grove Street in the game? Grove Street is probably the ONLY street you can name in the whole state of San Andreas, OF COURSE it will be in the game. 2. Crips and Bloods are as iconic to Los Angeles as Hollywood is. If it doesn't have them in it, it's NOT LA. If it doesn't have Families and Ballas in it, it's NOT LS. Gang culture defines LA. It will absolutely play a part in the game, and I'd bet $500 that there will be DLC where we play as a gangbanger. yes, we should expect some form of Grove street to be there. It will probably be a changed a little bit but something that would definitely be recognizable. Also to those who said the actual Grove gang might have died off or something, the opposite could be true. Maybe they actually grew bigger with the help of Sweet and CJ, since SA ended on a positive note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_st_gsf Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 da grove definatly gonna be in gtaV so will temple drive and serville blvd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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