Stinky12 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 With RockStar making GTX IV as realistic as possible, I doubt we will see the Rhino making a return to GTA V. If it does, I'll be happy and it would be nice if they add some new military vehicles that was never seen in any of the GTA series. I don't know... I think that the fact that there was no military base in IV was very unrealistic. In V, there is (hopefully) going to be a lot of country space and city space. There really should be no reason why there isn't a military base in V. I would like to see some new military vehicles but the Rhino needs to return. I think that there is a certain point of realism that needs to be avoided. I mean sure, you don't see a tank driving around the streets in real life, but does that mean it can't happen in a video game? You sound like as If I have never played GTA before. I probably starting playing GTA way before you're even born. If you look at where R* has change its routes with GTA IV being realistic as possible, there is a greater chance R* may go with that route with GTA V. If they we're to add a bit of imagination with the return of the Rhino and military bases, alien ships or whatever they can think of, then I'm all for it. GTA III was set in NYC and in that game you get a draw bridge. In real life there are draw bridges in NYC, R* didn't add it to GTA IV was a disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sup3rman Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 With RockStar making GTX IV as realistic as possible, I doubt we will see the Rhino making a return to GTA V. If it does, I'll be happy and it would be nice if they add some new military vehicles that was never seen in any of the GTA series. I don't know... I think that the fact that there was no military base in IV was very unrealistic. In V, there is (hopefully) going to be a lot of country space and city space. There really should be no reason why there isn't a military base in V. I would like to see some new military vehicles but the Rhino needs to return. I think that there is a certain point of realism that needs to be avoided. I mean sure, you don't see a tank driving around the streets in real life, but does that mean it can't happen in a video game? Wowowowow...hold on. How is it unrealistic, that IV didn't have any military stuff in it? It's a metropolitan city are, there was no room for tanks to move about ina region like that. It was totally realistic for only SWAT and FBI to be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racecarlock Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Well, whatever the case may be, I'm getting pretty sick of realism being used as an excuse to cut fun stuff like tanks completely out of the game. People want hunger back and a fuel system introduced. I've seen the posts. So, I should have the tank back if I'm going to be forced to take a restaurant and fuel break every 3 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lock n' Stock Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Well the Rhino IS listed in the vehicle files on the Max Payne 3 disc, so there is a possibility it will return in GTA V. I think there were also plans to bring it back in The Lost and Damned. Personally, I'll be disappointed if it doesn't return. "Realism" will be no excuse for it's absence this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptRobau Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Well, whatever the case may be, I'm getting pretty sick of realism being used as an excuse to cut fun stuff like tanks completely out of the game. People want hunger back and a fuel system introduced. I've seen the posts. So, I should have the tank back if I'm going to be forced to take a restaurant and fuel break every 3 hours. I've heard as many voices saying that they didn't want hunger or fuel in GTA V, so that doesn't hold up (and individual suggestions generally don't get listened too). There been much more consensus on GTA IV replacing a bit too much craziness with realism. With EFLC R* tried responding to the aformentioned consensus by balancing the realism out with craziness (TLAD's prison attack or TBoGT's Yusuf Amir missions for example). It makes sense for R* to want to continue to further finetune this balance between craziness/realism in GTA V. The Rhino fits in this balancing act and it definately fits the surroundings more than Liberty City does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentBuckwald Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Wasn't there an APC in one of the GTA IV Era games? at least using a cheat code? Also, there are plenty of military bases in SoCal, I don't see why R* shouldn't include tanks. Especially if they plan to do a rural area, unlike in IV, where everything was urban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 (edited) Well, whatever the case may be, I'm getting pretty sick of realism being used as an excuse to cut fun stuff like tanks completely out of the game. People want hunger back and a fuel system introduced. I've seen the posts. So, I should have the tank back if I'm going to be forced to take a restaurant and fuel break every 3 hours. Does NYC have an occupying military base in the metropolis area? I wouldn't really say tanks (Well like the Rhino) not being involved being included in GTA IV was for realism, but mainly how they would've fitted into the game itself. I can only describe it being a similar situation to planes. If developers just threw in anything that came to mind without thinking of how they're compromising the accurate setting they're portraying we'd have (and don't take this as a bash) a game like Saints Row. Tanks will make more sense for the environment of GTA V, but they weren't necessary for GTA IV. Edited May 24, 2012 by Miamivicecity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UP9390 Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 If the tank returns im hoping for one simular to the M1 Abrhams where you can have 4 seats, the driver seat, the seat for 50. caliber gunner, and seats at two other hatches that the people in those seats can pop out and shoot their guns, and also a 4 door APC with a gunner hatch, either it could be a 50.cal or use your own gun, and two other seats, and to where you can drive it on the water like the APC on Battlefield 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafMetal Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 I would really want the Rhino back, the noose tank in IV was so stupidly weak in comparison, I didn't feel like I was on a freaking tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durden Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 I would really want the Rhino back, the noose tank in IV was so stupidly weak in comparison, I didn't feel like I was on a freaking tank. Yeah I agree, it only took 2 RPG shots to explode. Also, I didn't like how in TBoGT, at 6 stars the APCs did not come. Why have them in the game if the authorities won't use them? And regarding the cannon, I prefer quality over quantity. I don't want to rapidly shoot weak-as-sh*t exlosive rounds; I want my shot to count. A good example of this is shooting a helicopter; it is considerably hard to hit with a APC, and the bullet doesn't do much. I would much prefer the rhino so it can be a 1-hit KO, so this wa my shot counts. If R* is putting the rhino (or any real tank) in GTAV, it needs to be done correctly. I believe they will not dissapoint Oh one more thing -- it would be grat if they added a reticule for the driver of the tank. In TBoGT it was really hard to aim it, it should at least be an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteArcticFox Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Creating moving tank tracks in 3D isn't so easy and I think it's a bit intensive on RAM/graphics, and then to have them crush cars properly would be more work, I think this is why no Rhinos were in IV, but now they have some solid coding ground to stand on, it may be possible, but I think it will depend on the damage setup V has, it may be the same (outdated) crap damage system from IV or we may get something that a leading title should have in 2012. On a side note (and half irrelevant) GTA SA only recently-ish got a 3D tank tracks mod, and they had to use CLEO3 to do it. It's not that difficult for an AAA company like Rockstar to make moving 3D tank tracks, DICE, Treyarch, Bohemia Interactive, Danger Close, Crytek and even Indie companies have made great looking moving tank tracks. 3D tank tracks do not strain on the computer at all, it doesn't strain more than normal car tires under the everyday car of the Grand Theft Auto world. Here's a tank from Battlefield 1942, which was released in 2001 And here's an image of GTA 3's Rhino which was released at the same time as Battlefield 1942 If you think tank tracks are too much work for a computer to handle then you aren't very smart, today a small indie company can create a tank thousand times better looking and works better than Rockstar has done in previous GTA's. A freeware game does it better than Rockstar. It's not difficult, it's not technically straining and it just shows the laziness of Rockstar's vehicle modelling team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajinator12 Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Creating moving tank tracks in 3D isn't so easy and I think it's a bit intensive on RAM/graphics, and then to have them crush cars properly would be more work, I think this is why no Rhinos were in IV, but now they have some solid coding ground to stand on, it may be possible, but I think it will depend on the damage setup V has, it may be the same (outdated) crap damage system from IV or we may get something that a leading title should have in 2012. On a side note (and half irrelevant) GTA SA only recently-ish got a 3D tank tracks mod, and they had to use CLEO3 to do it. Saints Row The Third Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73duster Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 I miss the Rhino tank. It was one of the best cheats. I would spend countless hours causing havoc, freeroaming and destroying everything i could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racecarlock Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 So I just got back into tank rampaging in GTA, and so this topic is coming back. I still want the tanks back. Tanks are fun to rampage in, and really that should be the only argument I need. Say what you want about saints row the third, it had some sweet tanks. They were in GTA2-GTA San Andreas. And, again, they're just plain fun. I don't care how unrealistic it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freezer89 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 I don't care how unrealistic it is. It's not really that unrealistic.. you can just steal one from a military base (the stealing part from a highly monitored military base may be unrealistic) and you drive with it towards the city. Problem solved. Also in TBOGT was already one, the APC.. The tank needs to return.. it doesn't matter in which form (the APC or a "classic" one like in San Andreas), the main point is that there is a tank in GTA V and we can blow up things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 I wonder if there is a tank in GTA V and if, then how it will look like. We have gone far. I mean from this ...to this ...to this ...and finally to this I would like something like this in GTA V: ...or even better but sadly unlikely: I would love to see a lot soldiers with a great variety of tanks. It won't happen but let me dream. GTAForums Crew Chat Thread - The Sharks Chat Thread - Leone Family Mafia Chat Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKON8ERISBACK Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Please use the pinned wishlist thread. Thank you. PS: Can someone in a position of authority on the forums leave a pinned note asking people not to bump topics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0eladn Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Please use the pinned wishlist thread. Thank you. PS: Can someone in a position of authority on the forums leave a pinned note asking people not to bump topics? 1. you are no moderator, right? so just report topics. 2. bumping old threads happens because people search if stuff is discussed already before making a new thread, so go away with your request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Dawg Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Last picture, the f*ck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKON8ERISBACK Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Please use the pinned wishlist thread. Thank you. PS: Can someone in a position of authority on the forums leave a pinned note asking people not to bump topics? 1. you are no moderator, right? so just report topics. 2. bumping old threads happens because people search if stuff is discussed already before making a new thread, so go away with your request. People aren't supposed to resurrect old threads without contributing something substantial or massive to it in the process. Otherwise all it does is direct people to read things that were discussed long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG_LOOKWHOJUST Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShogunOfHarlem Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Well, whatever the case may be, I'm getting pretty sick of realism being used as an excuse to cut fun stuff like tanks completely out of the game. People want hunger back and a fuel system introduced. I've seen the posts. So, I should have the tank back if I'm going to be forced to take a restaurant and fuel break every 3 hours. Does NYC have an occupying military base in the metropolis area? I wouldn't really say tanks (Well like the Rhino) not being involved being included in GTA IV was for realism, but mainly how they would've fitted into the game itself. I can only describe it being a similar situation to planes. If developers just threw in anything that came to mind without thinking of how they're compromising the accurate setting they're portraying we'd have (and don't take this as a bash) a game like Saints Row. Tanks will make more sense for the environment of GTA V, but they weren't necessary for GTA IV. If they had a bigger LC in GTA 4 then yes there are plenty of Military installations in the NY/NJ area. And yes I want to see an Abrams tank. Maybe even a few T-55s and T-70s for Drug cartels to use. I just hope that that they are harder to kill. RPG 7s shouldn't be able to do much to most modern tanks but an RPG 29, Javelin, Hellfire missiles, IEDs and other Tanks should be a problem. The fact that in SA and TBOGT that pistols, shotguns and assault rifles could do any damage was stupid. Yeah I agree, it only took 2 RPG shots to explode. Also, I didn't like how in TBoGT, at 6 stars the APCs did not come. Why have them in the game if the authorities won't use them? All the more reason for there to be Military grade armor. Civilian APCs actually would be easily penetrated by an RPG since there are only designed to be bullet proof. I just hope the Rhino isn't invincible just damn tough to kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Please use the pinned wishlist thread. Thank you. Dude, you need to stop with backseat-moderating. Ryan already told you this a few times now. If you don't stop you might even get a verbal warning for this. It's just a tip. Safe yourself and stop with this. Just report the topic if you think it's useless. I can tell you that this topic isn't useless because the game isn't released yet so this is still current discussion. Last picture, the f*ck You mean the one I have posted? Yeah, that would be cool. People aren't supposed to resurrect old threads without contributing something substantial or massive to it in the process. Otherwise all it does is direct people to read things that were discussed long ago. Again; Just report it if you think it's not worth the bump but just let it now, okay? GTAForums Crew Chat Thread - The Sharks Chat Thread - Leone Family Mafia Chat Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reemer Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 It looks more like a jeep type car. Maybe the Mesa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Looks like a Bobcat to me.. wtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulsson94 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I would love it to come back. But as others say I think it might be hard to make it look really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrizio Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Would love to see it - its a GTA staple and has to be included. Would love to see the new physics - seeing the rhino drive and crush cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaggySnake Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Can't be that hard to put one in can it? It will be a shame if they don't include it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrizio Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Can't be that hard to put one in can it? It will be a shame if they don't include it. Yeah I agree. With the APC in TBOGT and now military jets in V there's a good chance it will be in. Biffy fan by ychance Jaggy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaggySnake Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Can't be that hard to put one in can it? It will be a shame if they don't include it. Yeah I agree. With the APC in TBOGT and now military jets in V there's a good chance it will be in. Biffy fan by ychance Jaggy? I hope we get one, will be so much fun. Yeah! I love them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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