SGT. Johnson Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Don't give me this "Oh, it's not realistic" bullsh*t. In '07 an Army Vet stole a tank and wreaked havoc on the streets of San Diego. http://wn.com/US_Police_|_Amazing_police_c...ank_|_San_Diego There's no reason to not have a tank in V. I'd rather have a "blow cars up on impact" tank in the game than no tank. Trouble making it realistic isn't a good excuse IMHO. Games are not supposed to be realistic. It would suck a lot and it will make it boring, like IV. And yes, agreed Although you are partially correct, Jacko, there really is no harm in adding a Tank to GTA V. I don't see how adding a Tank is realistic besides the fact that "Ifs Gtas gets military, wez shuld getz Tank". Other than that, it is HIGHLY unrealistic to even DRIVE a Tank. And my other argument is IT'S A GAME. Games are fiction, and adding a Tank that you can drive and operate flawlessly would be considered unrealistic and perfect for a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT. Johnson Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I don't know, IV can't have a tank because the city is too smalland it won't be fun to ride tanks in the city. And because V might be only LS, they won't put tanks this time too. A tank might be a bit far-fetched. Now a military base with light armored assault vehicles may be a different story. Perhaps we'll see updated versions of the Flatbed and mabe the APC. Expect something along those lines but I don't see why the Hunter, Sea Sparrow, and the Buzzard won't be making another appearance. I don't remember if Flatbeds are in IV. They only send these FIB, cops and NOOSE. And if you have 5 or 6 stars, they will send Hunters hunting your ass down. But tanks? Tanks in a city full of pavemant, buildings and citizen? I myself won't have fun shooting and riding tanks in city. When riding a tank in SA, i mostly do it on freeways, deserts and bad lands. Man the reason why most of us stole tanks was to blow suit up and make the city a chaos. Not to pretend being in a military game You misunderstand; I'm simply predicting what alternatives R* would come up with if the Tank was excluded. I could care less if the military is in the game or not. NOoSE is an interesting foe right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT. Johnson Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I think the APC in TBOGT was far more fun than the Rhino in GTA:SA and GTA:VC. But that was because it didn't blow vehicles up in one go. You could see the massive damage you were inflicting on things before they eventually blew. I'm not bothered which one they put in GTA:V though. If they put the full Rhino in they should try to do something about implementing it properly and have a fully animated tracked vehicle. I take the point about the multiplayer issues though. Certain weapons and vehicles like tanks can be too powerful. They should put a feature into multiplayer that allows the customisation of any given mp session so that certain weapons and vehicles can be excluded. Not true; if you remember correctly, a Tank could be defeated by Molotovs and Flamethrowers. Since R* has upgraded this, it is now possible to damage Tanks using rockets, Grendaes, and Heavy Machine Guns. If they implement the Tank there should be one weapon that trumps it, aka, Heat Seeking Missile Launcher. This I also brought up with the Helicopters in GTA. If a weapon such as a Heat Seeking Missile Launcher was implemneted into multiplayer, there would be no way of someone owning in a Tank or a Helicopter. This weapon would also not dominate on-foot players because it would only work on vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikonatorbelick Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 ohh cmon plsss its a BOBCAT ....... ^this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT. Johnson Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I had more fun with a far fetched GTA than a realism chaser.... i liked seeing Area 69 with jetpacks, hand held miniguns, Tanks and other stuff... all the people saying tanks are a bit unrealistic to have in a city well walking around with 10 weapons concealed in ur jacket and going on a killing spree and GETTING away with it is just as far fetched... so is jumping out of a speeding car at 200 mph and living..... so is pulling out ur mobile phone and spawning a f*cking helicopter... ITS GRAND THEFT AUTO IT SHOULD BE FUN... chuck in as many tanks as u can i say Once again, this topic boils down to OPINION, and OTHER PEOPLE may not have the same one as YOU! Although it's Grand Theft Auto, YOU don't tell R* what to do. If R* have taken a new approach and want to have more realism, what are you goign to do? NOT BUY IT? that would solve absolutely nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzystero Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I had more fun with a far fetched GTA than a realism chaser.... i liked seeing Area 69 with jetpacks, hand held miniguns, Tanks and other stuff... all the people saying tanks are a bit unrealistic to have in a city well walking around with 10 weapons concealed in ur jacket and going on a killing spree and GETTING away with it is just as far fetched... so is jumping out of a speeding car at 200 mph and living..... so is pulling out ur mobile phone and spawning a f*cking helicopter... ITS GRAND THEFT AUTO IT SHOULD BE FUN... chuck in as many tanks as u can i say Once again, this topic boils down to OPINION, and OTHER PEOPLE may not have the same one as YOU! Although it's Grand Theft Auto, YOU don't tell R* what to do. If R* have taken a new approach and want to have more realism, what are you goign to do? NOT BUY IT? that would solve absolutely nothing. Correction. You can tell Rockstar what to do but they just won't listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT. Johnson Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Have you guys seen the tanks (yes that would be plural, as in more than one!) in SR3?! Thier AWESOME! And the way they crush over cars is absolutely inspired! If R* were going to steal something from SR - the tanks should DEFINITELY be it! The VTOL and Condor are also pretty damn cool! Get real! SR3 is too over the top. R* are goign to stick with what THEY want to do. If they take anything from SR3, whoop de FREAKIN doo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidzy Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Looks to me like a bobcat. Either that, or the Yosemite is returning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT. Johnson Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I had more fun with a far fetched GTA than a realism chaser.... i liked seeing Area 69 with jetpacks, hand held miniguns, Tanks and other stuff... all the people saying tanks are a bit unrealistic to have in a city well walking around with 10 weapons concealed in ur jacket and going on a killing spree and GETTING away with it is just as far fetched... so is jumping out of a speeding car at 200 mph and living..... so is pulling out ur mobile phone and spawning a f*cking helicopter... ITS GRAND THEFT AUTO IT SHOULD BE FUN... chuck in as many tanks as u can i say Once again, this topic boils down to OPINION, and OTHER PEOPLE may not have the same one as YOU! Although it's Grand Theft Auto, YOU don't tell R* what to do. If R* have taken a new approach and want to have more realism, what are you goign to do? NOT BUY IT? that would solve absolutely nothing. Correction. You can tell Rockstar what to do but they just won't listen. ...What he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumpping Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Creating moving tank tracks in 3D isn't so easy and I think it's a bit intensive on RAM/graphics, and then to have them crush cars properly would be more work, I think this is why no Rhinos were in IV, but now they have some solid coding ground to stand on, it may be possible, but I think it will depend on the damage setup V has, it may be the same (outdated) crap damage system from IV or we may get something that a leading title should have in 2012. On a side note (and half irrelevant) GTA SA only recently-ish got a 3D tank tracks mod, and they had to use CLEO3 to do it. Agreed. IMO, a tank in GTA V is a longshot. They are already pushing the boundaries of the game graphics wise. Why add more "stress" to the engine? Of course, I am talking out my @$$ due to lack of Xbox 360 capability knowledge. Would someone more knowledgable have a go? This thing you are saying about 3D treads has already been done on the BattleField game series from Battlefield 1942 right upt to the recent one also the graphichs on Battlefield 3 are a little better than GTA IV and I don't understand how you say it's not possible when it was done in a quite old game . I would have to agree there is a 50/50 chance there is military hadware in GTA V but knowing R* they might add a military APC instead of a tank. I.E. ASLAV-25. The vehicle that is at the wind turbines is acturely a family 4x4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vormek Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 If there will be tanks in the game, please, PLEASE, let there be realistic destruction when driving over vehicles and ramming small houses. Imagine being chased and you drive a tank with 10 police cars after you. You put in reverse and completely crush the police cars. After that you drive to a residential area with small houses which you would easily crash through in real life with a tank. Just imagine what an epic chase that would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racecarlock Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Me want tank. Me want tank. Must crush every car and civilian in my way and blow things up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyphoonJames Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Hydra = military = Rhino Problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbojohn Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 the only problem is multiplayer balancing issues. Other then That. Bring on the mayhem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrizio Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Definitley bring it back - a staple since the original GTA. But as others have said, make it drive over and crush other cars - that'd be quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racecarlock Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 And make sure the cannon is operational and has a full explosive, not the shotgun shells the APC had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lock n' Stock Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 That vehicle looks like Barracks OL to me, I could be wrong though. I'd definitely like to see the Rhino return with tracks and the ability to crush cars rather than blow them up upon impact. The problem is that Saints Row: The Third have beaten Rockstar to it with a tank known as a Challenger (which resembles the Rhino in San Andreas). This tank features tracks and also crushes cars: If they brought the Rhino back into GTA V with tracks that can crush vehicles, surely this wouldn't be copying Saints Row: The Third, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73duster Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 I miss the tank. I spent countless hours causing mayhem freeroaming around San Andreas in the tank. Even Saints Row 3 had their own tank, which was basically the only thing i enjoyed from that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB94 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Definitley bring it back - a legend since the original GTA. But as others have said, make it drive over and crush other cars - that'd be quality. I echo this view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheD94 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Oh yeah, tank shall be back to where it belongs to! I mean with this, that it belongs to GTA I heard, that the Rhino was planned to have a comeback in TLaD, but was cut from the final version. But that could just be a rumor. For that they have put a APC in TBoGT. I hope the APC makes a comeback too + Hunter from GTA3 Era in HD remake. It would be a small dissapointment if they leave that out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballsdeep30 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Have you guys seen the tanks (yes that would be plural, as in more than one!) in SR3?! Thier AWESOME! And the way they crush over cars is absolutely inspired! If R* were going to steal something from SR - the tanks should DEFINITELY be it! The VTOL and Condor are also pretty damn cool! Get real! SR3 is too over the top. R* are goign to stick with what THEY want to do. If they take anything from SR3, whoop de FREAKIN doo! SR3 was one of the worse crappy games I ever played in my life, SR1 and 2 are way better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gtaghost22 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Hydra = military = Rhino Problem? Its not that simple.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73duster Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Have you guys seen the tanks (yes that would be plural, as in more than one!) in SR3?! Thier AWESOME! And the way they crush over cars is absolutely inspired! If R* were going to steal something from SR - the tanks should DEFINITELY be it! The VTOL and Condor are also pretty damn cool! You DO realize that Saints Rows took the tank idea from GTA, not the other way around? In fact, the Saints Row franchise is completely inspired by GTA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis202 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 The game might be different from the previous GTA games. The Police system will probably be enhanced but it'll probably just involve the SWAT, FIB and LSPD instead of the Army. Rockstar tries to make their games realistic and I have a feeling that it won't be as dynamic as San Andreas. I'm guessing that by getting a 1 star wanted level, cops will just chase you with batons and stuff. but I'm pretty sure an Army tank won't be involved, but more like an APC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean5 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Creating moving tank tracks in 3D isn't so easy and I think it's a bit intensive on RAM/graphics, and then to have them crush cars properly would be more work, I think this is why no Rhinos were in IV, but now they have some solid coding ground to stand on, it may be possible, but I think it will depend on the damage setup V has, it may be the same (outdated) crap damage system from IV or we may get something that a leading title should have in 2012. On a side note (and half irrelevant) GTA SA only recently-ish got a 3D tank tracks mod, and they had to use CLEO3 to do it. Prototype did it. I'm sure GTA can too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebestgameever Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 You can see two wheels at the front of the vehicle at that part, looks nothing like a tank to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Moffat Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 while i have no issues with a tank returning for gtav even though personally I did'nt miss it in IV and when it came back in tbogt I used it maybe 3 or 4 times in freeroam and got bored of it fairly quick (dunno gues i prefer pure on on car chases and shootouts but whatever im rambling. Anyway one point I would like to express is that while I would like a tank for the player, I really don't want them coming after you on 6 stars (this is'nt a debate on the army chasing you, its purley the tank) Now in the 3 era games the tanks only worried me because they could blow you up in an instance if you crashed, but in the new gta they prob will get rid of that feature.........so what are the tanks going to do exactly? they are large and would be rather awkward in the city streets, take the enforcers noose vans in IV they were constanly getting stuck, they were slow and never really pursued you, so would'nt a tank be worse and I defo do not want rubber band AI so a tank can keep up with a sports car. plus a main battle tank does'nt carry much men and the ones and im pretty sure that the crew aren't meant to leave the tank to attack enimies (correct me if im wrong.) so would'nt the army just be better off using hummers and flatbeds to transport troops? Now I know i've left out the obvious advantage of the tanks main gun, but I am very sketchy about giving the AI use of a large powerful explosive gun, I just feel It wuld be more annoying than ''badass'' as people like to say to make them sound manly and tough. would'nt it be better just to have smaller mounted weapons on vehicles? Meh just my thoughts, honestly don't care what R* do, As i said I prefer car chases so i'll prob just stick to the 3 and 4 star levels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokrie Dela Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Have you guys seen the tanks (yes that would be plural, as in more than one!) in SR3?! Thier AWESOME! And the way they crush over cars is absolutely inspired! If R* were going to steal something from SR - the tanks should DEFINITELY be it! The VTOL and Condor are also pretty damn cool! Get real! SR3 is too over the top. R* are goign to stick with what THEY want to do. If they take anything from SR3, whoop de FREAKIN doo! Erm. SR is too over the top? Yes it is, But cars instantly exploding when a tank touches them is not over the top? "the way they crush over cars is absolutely inspired! If R* were going to steal something from SR - the tanks should DEFINITELY be it!" - did you actually read that? Or study physics? When a heavy object goes ontop of a smaller, often the smaller one is CRUSHED. Tanks CRUSHING cars is realistic. Cars going BOOM because a tank tapped their wing mirror is OVER THE TOP. Granted SR IS OTT, but that one feature is pretty damned cool. Plus, with GTA taking the realistic route, you think they wouldn't consider it? While we're talking over the top, is a tank, being driven by a common criminal, down the street not OTT? IF R* include tanks - which im not expecting them to* - they'd likely make them more realistic, and taking that feature from SR would be a logical step. *Expecting, not hoping. The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. Click here to view my Poetry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB94 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 If the Rhino looks like this, has separate controls for the turret and driving, and has the ability to FLATTEN cars and vans then I would love to see it return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0eladn Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 If the Rhino looks like this, has separate controls for the turret and driving, and has the ability to FLATTEN cars and vans then I would love to see it return. Yes, exactly what you said, plus that it needs to have tracks and not wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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