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Dale Nixon, don't escalate ad hominem, or you'll be among these who'll receive temp-bans for all of this. Argue your points, whichever they may be, but insults will not be tolerated from either side.

Ad hominem? I didn't insult this person on a personal level, nor did I simply try to insult him and make him look stupid as to hide the fact that I don't have any valid arguments of my own. Homophobes don't need anyone's help to come across as dumb, they do that just fine on their own.

 

I was agreeing with Alastair as arguing with homophobic people over the internet seems to be quite a pointless venture, especially when they are so misinformed and thus proceed to generalize and make up statistics which aren't even true.

 

Would you argue with a man that claims that you have to behave a certain way simply because of your human sexuality? You'd laugh at him, try to make him understand at least once, and if he still cannot fathom logic; you shall only walk away.

this^

 

Also, since when was finding homosexual sex 'disgusting' not homophobic. I couldn't go through with hetrosexual sex but im not repulsed by it

Exactly. I don't see why it is disgusting at all. I am not a homosexual and thus I wouldn't have sex with a man, but if someone is homosexual and chooses to have sex with a man, there is nothing wrong with it and I fail to understand how it is disgusting. I remember when years ago I thought the same way; ''I aren't to be called homophobic simply because of the fact that I find two men having sex disgusting'', luckily I have matured.

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Dale Nixon, don't escalate ad hominem, or you'll be among these who'll receive temp-bans for all of this. Argue your points, whichever they may be, but insults will not be tolerated from either side.

Ad hominem? I didn't insult this person on a personal level, nor did I simply try to insult him and make him look stupid as to hide the fact that I don't have any valid arguments of my own. Homophobes don't need anyone's help to come across as dumb, they do that just fine on their own.

 

I was agreeing with Alastair as arguing with homophobic people over the internet seems to be quite a pointless venture, especially when they are so misinformed and thus proceed to generalize and make up statistics which aren't even true.

 

Would you argue with a man that claims that you have to behave a certain way simply because of your human sexuality? You'd laugh at him, try to make him understand at least once, and if he still cannot fathom logic; you shall only walk away.

this^

 

Also, since when was finding homosexual sex 'disgusting' not homophobic. I couldn't go through with hetrosexual sex but im not repulsed by it

Probably because it's a natural act that is meant to reproduce, and is the reason you're alive today. But two guys is gross because it isn't natural, despite whatever argument you pull out of your ass. If everyone was gay, humanity wouldn't last very long, now would it?

 

EDIT: Plus, no sexuality finds straight sex gross, because it has both sexes, which means your preferred sex is still there. You should be saying you don't find lesbian sex gross.

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I thought the only reason there are prostitutes in GTA games is for running them over for free moneys.

 

People actually care for them?

I've never beat up or run over a GTA hooker in all my days.

 

(Though a few times I did pull my car up sideways to the edge of an unfinished overpass, so that when she got out she fell right off the edge. Which was super entertaining.)

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Are people really going to get that upset over that obviously childish joke?

Without the accompaniment of images one cannot convey the context of a piece of writing through a text-based medium.

 

What if his Dad is terminally ill with cancer? Will he see the funny side?

 

His rant on homosexuality is merely expressing his personal, albeit quite silly, opinion.

quite silly? It is fundamentally ignorant. As for the 'what if his dad is ill with cancer?', what relevance does that have with homosexuality at all. You have no argument. And quite frankly, we dont care if he see's the funny side. You offend people and they will bite back. Even if they are 'fags'

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Isn't one of the lead peeps at Rockstar a lady?

If you're thinking of The Benz, he's a dude.

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Dale Nixon, don't escalate ad hominem, or you'll be among these who'll receive temp-bans for all of this. Argue your points, whichever they may be, but insults will not be tolerated from either side.

Ad hominem? I didn't insult this person on a personal level, nor did I simply try to insult him and make him look stupid as to hide the fact that I don't have any valid arguments of my own. Homophobes don't need anyone's help to come across as dumb, they do that just fine on their own.

 

I was agreeing with Alastair as arguing with homophobic people over the internet seems to be quite a pointless venture, especially when they are so misinformed and thus proceed to generalize and make up statistics which aren't even true.

 

Would you argue with a man that claims that you have to behave a certain way simply because of your human sexuality? You'd laugh at him, try to make him understand at least once, and if he still cannot fathom logic; you shall only walk away.

this^

 

Also, since when was finding homosexual sex 'disgusting' not homophobic. I couldn't go through with hetrosexual sex but im not repulsed by it

Probably because it's a natural act that is meant to reproduce, and is the reason you're alive today. But two guys is gross because it isn't natural, despite whatever argument you pull out of your ass. If everyone was gay, humanity wouldn't last very long, now would it?

 

EDIT: Plus, no sexuality finds straight sex gross, because it has both sexes, which means your preferred sex is still there. You should be saying you don't find lesbian sex gross.

which is why not everyone is gay? As for it being 'unnatural'. Homosexuality has always existed. Since the beginning of time. What is more natural than that?

 

Also, considering the ffact that you find homosexuality 'gross', what's your take on lesbians?

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Like I said previously, I don't care about what they do privately as long as they don't try it with me or do it around me. My point was is that every gay I've ever met is very feminine, not tough. And you aren't automatically an insecure homosexual if you are disgusted at the thought of what they do to each other, because quite frankly, it is a disgusting thought. You aren't even a homophobe if you consider it disgusting.

And nobody's trying to change your mind about it. It's perfectly fine to feel dislike towards homosexual acts, or towards specific religious practices, or even certain races. That's how you feel. That's part of who you are. Anybody who tries to force you to be different about it is as much a bigot as anyone.

 

But that's not what the argument is about. It's been pointed that your understanding of gay culture is extremely narrow. Which is also understandable. You don't like it. You probable won't take much time to look into it. And if you simply admit that, you're the better man for it. But instead, you start acting angry when it's brought to your attention. That's acting insecure. That's where you are simply wrong.

 

I've been to gay clubs. I've met a wide variety of gay people of either gender. I can tell you from experience that your perception is wrong. It doesn't fit within your experience, but that's because your experience is very limited. Again, I'm not trying to change your feelings towards these individuals and what they do. I'm giving you a simple fact that comes from experience much broader than your own, and ask you to acknowledge it. And you don't even have to do that. If you want to keep your perception, that's fine too. Just don't start calling people names over it.

 

Also, since when was finding homosexual sex 'disgusting' not homophobic.

I'm disgusted by spiders. But I'm not arachnophobic. There is a big difference between how you feel about something and how you act when faced with it.

Prior to filing a bug against any of my code, please consider this response to common concerns.

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LOL! A bad ass fag!? Are you kidding!? Hahaha, it is synonymous with pussy! Like literally, give me ONE example of a tough guy who gets manicures?

Vin Diesel

vin diesel is fag? didnt know that

No, he isn't. That was just rumor, tons of male celebrities are always rumored to be gay.

That's because many male celebrities ARE gay. The ratio from gay to straight is ascued in the entertainment business compared to regular populations. And when you think about it, just recall back to your high school drama club and think about it.

The arts draws a certain crowd. Many of your childhood on screen heroes where indeed smoking pole instead of Marlboro Reds, just a fact of life. And who cares really. It's the entertainment industry. They played a macho role, which when you think about it playing anything isn't really macho.

 

There is no real Rambo. Just people prancing around on camera. Who cares if they like innies or outties on their free time.

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quite silly? It is fundamentally ignorant. As for the 'what if his dad is ill with cancer?', what relevance does that have with homosexuality at all. You have no argument. And quite frankly, we dont care if he see's the funny side. You offend people and they will bite back. Even if they are 'fags'

You missed my point by a light year.

 

His opinion, no matter how "ignorant" or "silly," is just that, his opinion.

 

As for the Dad part, that was nothing to do with homosexuality and I didn't claim it was. What the message tried to convey was for people to not insult those who aren't involved directly in the debate. Insult each other all you like, I don't care, but the moderators probably will.

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Dale Nixon, don't escalate ad hominem, or you'll be among these who'll receive temp-bans for all of this. Argue your points, whichever they may be, but insults will not be tolerated from either side.

Ad hominem? I didn't insult this person on a personal level, nor did I simply try to insult him and make him look stupid as to hide the fact that I don't have any valid arguments of my own. Homophobes don't need anyone's help to come across as dumb, they do that just fine on their own.

 

I was agreeing with Alastair as arguing with homophobic people over the internet seems to be quite a pointless venture, especially when they are so misinformed and thus proceed to generalize and make up statistics which aren't even true.

 

Would you argue with a man that claims that you have to behave a certain way simply because of your human sexuality? You'd laugh at him, try to make him understand at least once, and if he still cannot fathom logic; you shall only walk away.

this^

 

Also, since when was finding homosexual sex 'disgusting' not homophobic. I couldn't go through with hetrosexual sex but im not repulsed by it

Probably because it's a natural act that is meant to reproduce, and is the reason you're alive today. But two guys is gross because it isn't natural, despite whatever argument you pull out of your ass. If everyone was gay, humanity wouldn't last very long, now would it?

 

EDIT: Plus, no sexuality finds straight sex gross, because it has both sexes, which means your preferred sex is still there. You should be saying you don't find lesbian sex gross.

This is a common rhetoric that homophobes tend to use.

 

I'll direct you to a Nietzsche quote; ''There are no truths, only interpretation.''

 

 

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Dale, I'm sorry, but you're showing yourself to be just as close-minded about the subject. You just happen to be on the majority side of the debate, and that doesn't excuse you.

Prior to filing a bug against any of my code, please consider this response to common concerns.

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quite silly? It is fundamentally ignorant. As for the 'what if his dad is ill with cancer?', what relevance does that have with homosexuality at all. You have no argument. And quite frankly, we dont care if he see's the funny side. You offend people and they will bite back. Even if they are 'fags'

You missed my point by a light year.

 

His opinion, no matter how "ignorant" or "silly," is just that, his opinion.

 

As for the Dad part, that was nothing to do with homosexuality and I didn't claim it was. What the message tried to convey was for people to not insult those who aren't involved directly in the debate. Insult each other all you like, I don't care, but the moderators probably will.

Okay, I can accept that stance. However, surely you must understand why saying such ignorant things can cause offence and why opinions like this should be kept to their respective individual? Just as racism shouldn't be tolerated. There's having your opinion and thats all very well but it doesn't give you a licence to say whatever the hell you like.

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Dale Nixon, don't escalate ad hominem, or you'll be among these who'll receive temp-bans for all of this. Argue your points, whichever they may be, but insults will not be tolerated from either side.

Ad hominem? I didn't insult this person on a personal level, nor did I simply try to insult him and make him look stupid as to hide the fact that I don't have any valid arguments of my own. Homophobes don't need anyone's help to come across as dumb, they do that just fine on their own.

 

I was agreeing with Alastair as arguing with homophobic people over the internet seems to be quite a pointless venture, especially when they are so misinformed and thus proceed to generalize and make up statistics which aren't even true.

 

Would you argue with a man that claims that you have to behave a certain way simply because of your human sexuality? You'd laugh at him, try to make him understand at least once, and if he still cannot fathom logic; you shall only walk away.

this^

 

Also, since when was finding homosexual sex 'disgusting' not homophobic. I couldn't go through with hetrosexual sex but im not repulsed by it

Probably because it's a natural act that is meant to reproduce, and is the reason you're alive today. But two guys is gross because it isn't natural, despite whatever argument you pull out of your ass. If everyone was gay, humanity wouldn't last very long, now would it?

 

EDIT: Plus, no sexuality finds straight sex gross, because it has both sexes, which means your preferred sex is still there. You should be saying you don't find lesbian sex gross.

This is a common rhetoric that homophobes tend to use.

 

I'll direct you to a Nietzsche quote; ''There are no truths, only interpretation.''

As for this whole argument about the "your daddy" insult, I have no clue as to why you're arguing over it. That was so childish and ignorant, I just shrugged it off as such. It just showed how mature Dale here really is.

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Dale, I'm sorry, but you're showing yourself to be just as close-minded about the subject. You just happen to be on the majority side of the debate, and that doesn't excuse you.

This. Just because I'm sure if I used that immature 'insult', many people would have made it known.

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Dale Nixon, don't escalate ad hominem, or you'll be among these who'll receive temp-bans for all of this. Argue your points, whichever they may be, but insults will not be tolerated from either side.

Ad hominem? I didn't insult this person on a personal level, nor did I simply try to insult him and make him look stupid as to hide the fact that I don't have any valid arguments of my own. Homophobes don't need anyone's help to come across as dumb, they do that just fine on their own.

 

I was agreeing with Alastair as arguing with homophobic people over the internet seems to be quite a pointless venture, especially when they are so misinformed and thus proceed to generalize and make up statistics which aren't even true.

 

Would you argue with a man that claims that you have to behave a certain way simply because of your human sexuality? You'd laugh at him, try to make him understand at least once, and if he still cannot fathom logic; you shall only walk away.

this^

 

Also, since when was finding homosexual sex 'disgusting' not homophobic. I couldn't go through with hetrosexual sex but im not repulsed by it

Probably because it's a natural act that is meant to reproduce, and is the reason you're alive today. But two guys is gross because it isn't natural, despite whatever argument you pull out of your ass. If everyone was gay, humanity wouldn't last very long, now would it?

 

EDIT: Plus, no sexuality finds straight sex gross, because it has both sexes, which means your preferred sex is still there. You should be saying you don't find lesbian sex gross.

This is a common rhetoric that homophobes tend to use.

 

I'll direct you to a Nietzsche quote; ''There are no truths, only interpretation.''

As for this whole argument about the "your daddy" insult, I have no clue as to why you're arguing over it. That was so childish and ignorant, I just shrugged it off as such. It just showed how mature Dale here really is.

I hardly think you are the one to cast views on peoples maturity. You evidently have never read anything and have formed your opinions entirely from your own head or through misguidance from similarly closed minded people.

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Like I said previously, I don't care about what they do privately as long as they don't try it with me or do it around me. My point was is that every gay I've ever met is very feminine, not tough. And you aren't automatically an insecure homosexual if you are disgusted at the thought of what they do to each other, because quite frankly, it is a disgusting thought. You aren't even a homophobe if you consider it disgusting.

And nobody's trying to change your mind about it. It's perfectly fine to feel dislike towards homosexual acts, or towards specific religious practices, or even certain races. That's how you feel. That's part of who you are. Anybody who tries to force you to be different about it is as much a bigot as anyone.

 

But that's not what the argument is about. It's been pointed that your understanding of gay culture is extremely narrow. Which is also understandable. You don't like it. You probable won't take much time to look into it. And if you simply admit that, you're the better man for it. But instead, you start acting angry when it's brought to your attention. That's acting insecure. That's where you are simply wrong.

 

I've been to gay clubs. I've met a wide variety of gay people of either gender. I can tell you from experience that your perception is wrong. It doesn't fit within your experience, but that's because your experience is very limited. Again, I'm not trying to change your feelings towards these individuals and what they do. I'm giving you a simple fact that comes from experience much broader than your own, and ask you to acknowledge it. And you don't even have to do that. If you want to keep your perception, that's fine too. Just don't start calling people names over it.

 

Also, since when was finding homosexual sex 'disgusting' not homophobic.

I'm disgusted by spiders. But I'm not arachnophobic. There is a big difference between how you feel about something and how you act when faced with it.

I used to throw raves in my mid 20's, at least a dozen of them where in gay clubs too. I got the venues for next to nothing and the people loved music and would stay up partying until 7am. My kind of people.

Many gay people are the funniest, smartest, nicest people to hang out with. I call a few friends to this day, and others my employees at work.

I don't even really see it as disgusting or anything like I used to as a small town teenager still coming to grips with my hormone pumped body and desire to learn to talk to girls better (and ultimately have sex with them). Sex is sex, preference is preference, and finding somebody you are attracted too and having a relationship with is completely normal.

When you grow up you get used to people being different. It's following the bell curve in high school and not being who you are that is the tragedy.

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Okay, I can accept that stance. However, surely you must understand why saying such ignorant things can cause offence and why opinions like this should be kept to their respective individual? Just as racism shouldn't be tolerated. There's having your opinion and thats all very well but it doesn't give you a licence to say whatever the hell you like.

Racism is too broad of a term. It can mean different things, from feeling you have towards other races, to how you talk about them, to how you treat them. You can feel any way you want about other races, and admit it here without being punished for it. It's technically racism, but to that degree, it is tolerated. If you insult someone for their race, on the other hand, you get a swift kick in the behind, as many have found in these past few days.

 

As far as expressing opinions, yes, they'll always offend someone. And guess what? It's the fault of person getting offended. Think of all the opinions you've expressed that would anger some minority group.

Prior to filing a bug against any of my code, please consider this response to common concerns.

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Dale, I'm sorry, but you're showing yourself to be just as close-minded about the subject. You just happen to be on the majority side of the debate, and that doesn't excuse you.

This doesn't make any sense at all. Care to elaborate, you should be able to do so. I don't see what the majority siding with me has to do with anything, incredibly irrelevant statement wouldn't you say?

 

I do appreciate your posts in this topic and they are quite spot-on, but if this post of yours is aimed at my previous post about how it's impossible to consider two male's having sex be foul and yet not be a homophobe, I think it is only you who is in the wrong here.

 

I have no doubt in my mind that Lawman doesn't mind lesbians, in fact, I'm sure he is turned on by it, and yes I am making assumptions now but that's only because I've met this type of person so many times and it's the same thing over and over.

 

People claiming that the meaning of life is to reproduce, to keep humanity alive, and thus use that as an argument against homosexuals also make no sense. For, as Nietzsche has said, that is only their interpretation, and might I personally add, it is a hate fueled and ignorant one.

 

You have shown us your capablity to form a well-argumented post, so why can't you do the same in response to me? You merely call me just as close-minded as a homophobic person and move on. I'd expect more, so that's why I ask.

 

Besides, who is Lawman here to determine what is natural and what isn't?

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Dale Nixon, don't escalate ad hominem, or you'll be among these who'll receive temp-bans for all of this. Argue your points, whichever they may be, but insults will not be tolerated from either side.

Ad hominem? I didn't insult this person on a personal level, nor did I simply try to insult him and make him look stupid as to hide the fact that I don't have any valid arguments of my own. Homophobes don't need anyone's help to come across as dumb, they do that just fine on their own.

 

I was agreeing with Alastair as arguing with homophobic people over the internet seems to be quite a pointless venture, especially when they are so misinformed and thus proceed to generalize and make up statistics which aren't even true.

 

Would you argue with a man that claims that you have to behave a certain way simply because of your human sexuality? You'd laugh at him, try to make him understand at least once, and if he still cannot fathom logic; you shall only walk away.

this^

 

Also, since when was finding homosexual sex 'disgusting' not homophobic. I couldn't go through with hetrosexual sex but im not repulsed by it

Probably because it's a natural act that is meant to reproduce, and is the reason you're alive today. But two guys is gross because it isn't natural, despite whatever argument you pull out of your ass. If everyone was gay, humanity wouldn't last very long, now would it?

 

EDIT: Plus, no sexuality finds straight sex gross, because it has both sexes, which means your preferred sex is still there. You should be saying you don't find lesbian sex gross.

This is a common rhetoric that homophobes tend to use.

 

I'll direct you to a Nietzsche quote; ''There are no truths, only interpretation.''

As for this whole argument about the "your daddy" insult, I have no clue as to why you're arguing over it. That was so childish and ignorant, I just shrugged it off as such. It just showed how mature Dale here really is.

I hardly think you are the one to cast views on peoples maturity. You evidently have never read anything and have formed your opinions entirely from your own head or through misguidance from similarly closed minded people.

I'm immature just because I share a different view from yours? I have to have the desire to see whatever you guys do, or else I'm a closed minded, homophobic, bigot? Get out of here. You're the immature one.

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Dude, when someone introduces her/himself as a feminist, you ignore whatever she/he has to post. And in case of him/her being a woman you also point into the direction of the kitchen.

 

Haven't us chauvinistic pigs taught you enough?

 

 

On-topic: I would like to see a female main character for once. Including whatever comes with this. Imagine the advantages you have as you can sell your body or become the girlfriend of the big boss.

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Okay, I can accept that stance. However, surely you must understand why saying such ignorant things can cause offence and why opinions like this should be kept to their respective individual? Just as racism shouldn't be tolerated. There's having your opinion and thats all very well but it doesn't give you a licence to say whatever the hell you like.

Racism is too broad of a term. It can mean different things, from feeling you have towards other races, to how you talk about them, to how you treat them. You can feel any way you want about other races, and admit it here without being punished for it. It's technically racism, but to that degree, it is tolerated. If you insult someone for their race, on the other hand, you get a swift kick in the behind, as many have found in these past few days.

 

As far as expressing opinions, yes, they'll always offend someone. And guess what? It's the fault of person getting offended. Think of all the opinions you've expressed that would anger some minority group.

To me racism and homophobic prejudice equate to one and the same thing. Merely just a different genre of minority. And given that, I think if someone directly insults me because of my sexuality, a good switch kick in the behind is only where it would begin. We live in the 21century. I mean c'mon? for f*ck sakes.

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People claiming that the meaning of life is to reproduce, to keep humanity alive, and thus use that as an argument against homosexuals also make no sense. For, as Nietzsche has said, that is only their interpretation, and might I personally add, it is a hate fueled and ignorant one.

Are you trying to claim that the main objective for humans worldwide isn't to reproduce?

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Dale Nixon, don't escalate ad hominem, or you'll be among these who'll receive temp-bans for all of this. Argue your points, whichever they may be, but insults will not be tolerated from either side.

Ad hominem? I didn't insult this person on a personal level, nor did I simply try to insult him and make him look stupid as to hide the fact that I don't have any valid arguments of my own. Homophobes don't need anyone's help to come across as dumb, they do that just fine on their own.

 

I was agreeing with Alastair as arguing with homophobic people over the internet seems to be quite a pointless venture, especially when they are so misinformed and thus proceed to generalize and make up statistics which aren't even true.

 

Would you argue with a man that claims that you have to behave a certain way simply because of your human sexuality? You'd laugh at him, try to make him understand at least once, and if he still cannot fathom logic; you shall only walk away.

this^

 

Also, since when was finding homosexual sex 'disgusting' not homophobic. I couldn't go through with hetrosexual sex but im not repulsed by it

Probably because it's a natural act that is meant to reproduce, and is the reason you're alive today. But two guys is gross because it isn't natural, despite whatever argument you pull out of your ass. If everyone was gay, humanity wouldn't last very long, now would it?

 

EDIT: Plus, no sexuality finds straight sex gross, because it has both sexes, which means your preferred sex is still there. You should be saying you don't find lesbian sex gross.

This is a common rhetoric that homophobes tend to use.

 

I'll direct you to a Nietzsche quote; ''There are no truths, only interpretation.''

As for this whole argument about the "your daddy" insult, I have no clue as to why you're arguing over it. That was so childish and ignorant, I just shrugged it off as such. It just showed how mature Dale here really is.

I hardly think you are the one to cast views on peoples maturity. You evidently have never read anything and have formed your opinions entirely from your own head or through misguidance from similarly closed minded people.

I'm immature just because I share a different view from yours? I have to have the desire to see whatever you guys do, or else I'm a closed minded, homophobic, bigot? Get out of here. You're the immature one.

You're immature because your forming opinions based on nothing but prejudice. You know nothing about homosexuals. I'm not saying you need to go find out or care about it but unless you do, you are not in a position to form any valid opinion because you know nothing about the subject matter. It's not that you have a different view. It's that you have an unbalanced view and I know for a fact that don't know what you're talking about.

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People claiming that the meaning of life is to reproduce, to keep humanity alive, and thus use that as an argument against homosexuals also make no sense. For, as Nietzsche has said, that is only their interpretation, and might I personally add, it is a hate fueled and ignorant one.

Are you trying to claim that the main objective for humans worldwide isn't to reproduce?

I'd say that's what they're claiming.

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People claiming that the meaning of life is to reproduce, to keep humanity alive, and thus use that as an argument against homosexuals also make no sense. For, as Nietzsche has said, that is only their interpretation, and might I personally add, it is a hate fueled and ignorant one.

Are you trying to claim that the main objective for humans worldwide isn't to reproduce?

Yes.

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Sticky, it isn't for me. Probably you are right about it being humanity's (general society) goal.

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