Mapping Los Santos! Building/landmark analysis

[Magic_Al]

As the map size question keeps popping up, here's another comparison (Los Santos vs. Algonquin).

 

Left: estimate based on lane width (8.6 by 10.7 km), right: estimate based on tennis courts (10 by 12.5 km)

 

Damn i'm sick and tired of people not having sense of scale,dude JUST MAKE SURE THE ROAD'S WIDTH MATCHES THAT'S ALL YOU NEED DUUUUUUUUUUHHHHH

I think this particular lane-width estimate was thrown off by the outdated assumption that GTA maps have a 5m lane-width standard, which is true in SA and earlier. GTAIV has a 6m standard lane width, which enabled there to be parked vehicles on most streets. If you park on the side of a street in an earlier GTA, unless there is specifically a parking lane you'll block traffic.

 

The tennis court-based scale is consistent with the 6m lane assumption and results in a larger Los Santos for obvious reasons.

[Mrthingus]

As the map size question keeps popping up, here's another comparison (Los Santos vs. Algonquin).

 

Left: estimate based on lane width (8.6 by 10.7 km), right: estimate based on tennis courts (10 by 12.5 km)

 

Damn i'm sick and tired of people not having sense of scale,dude JUST MAKE SURE THE ROAD'S WIDTH MATCHES THAT'S ALL YOU NEED DUUUUUUUUUUHHHHH

I think this particular lane-width estimate was thrown off by the outdated assumption that GTA maps have a 5m lane-width standard, which is true in SA and earlier. GTAIV has a 6m standard lane width, which enabled there to be parked vehicles on most streets. If you park on the side of a street in an earlier GTA, unless there is specifically a parking lane you'll block traffic.

 

The tennis court-based scale is consistent with the 6m lane assumption and results in a larger Los Santos for obvious reasons.

When we're talking about "Liberty City", do we mean only Algonquin/Broker/Bohan/Dukes or the whole thing including Alderney?

[Magic_Al]

As the map size question keeps popping up, here's another comparison (Los Santos vs. Algonquin).

 

Left: estimate based on lane width (8.6 by 10.7 km), right: estimate based on tennis courts (10 by 12.5 km)

 

Damn i'm sick and tired of people not having sense of scale,dude JUST MAKE SURE THE ROAD'S WIDTH MATCHES THAT'S ALL YOU NEED DUUUUUUUUUUHHHHH

I think this particular lane-width estimate was thrown off by the outdated assumption that GTA maps have a 5m lane-width standard, which is true in SA and earlier. GTAIV has a 6m standard lane width, which enabled there to be parked vehicles on most streets. If you park on the side of a street in an earlier GTA, unless there is specifically a parking lane you'll block traffic.

 

The tennis court-based scale is consistent with the 6m lane assumption and results in a larger Los Santos for obvious reasons.

When we're talking about "Liberty City", do we mean only Algonquin/Broker/Bohan/Dukes or the whole thing including Alderney?

All land area in GTAIV. Spread out as islands it's wider than Los Santos but the total IV land area is less than what might be considered Los Santos city limits within GTAV.

[DuPz0r]

Map update. - Added more of the roads, thinned highways, due to scale deception. Changed train track colour so you can see the difference between rail & road.Tweaked the terrain some more. Possible Mountain detail sculpt coming in next update if i have time before GTA V release.

 

Click image for 3D view:

Edited September 4, 2013 by DuPz0r

[Hodor Hodor]

Nice job loving it so far.

[omenz321]

Map update. - Added more of the roads, thinned highways, due to scale deception. Changed train track colour so you can see the difference between rail & road.Tweaked the terrain some more. Possible Mountain detail sculpt coming in next update if i have time before GTA V release.

 

Click image for 3D view:

Fantastic!

 

Great work

[GTADKNUT]

 

Found another building.

It's some kind of warehouse located on Pier A in the LA Harbor.

You can see it on the artwork below (from the GTA Online poster)

 

I know it's an artwork but I'm pretty convinced that this building will be ingame.

Awesome, I love all these random finds

 

@ Wayne, stop being so damn humble You have been magic mate

[Martijnn]

That map looks small.

[exmpletree]

That map looks small.

just STFU

[Martijnn]

That map looks small.

just STFU

On that virtual map it doesnt look that big. Stfu bitch

[Found_Again]

 

That map looks small.

just STFU

On that virtual map it doesnt look that big. Stfu bitch

With all due respect sir please GTFO and go the the LS size thread. Thanks.

[Romario]

That map looks small.

Here we f*ckin go again.

[Martijnn]

f*ck

[omenz321]

I mean, usually we're used to always see a map which is split up. This is the first time upon release of a whole new gta game that Rockstar are leaving the whole map open, which is great since you don't have to do missions to be able to explore or cheat.

 

 

Looking at the screenshots the roads do look wider. But I hope the city is actually as big as people are saying.

 

I do think the map will be huge, and finally there is acres of open space! GTA IV missed out on this and I've had to make use of the edge of the map. which is a pity.

 

Honestly can't wait. And I really, really do hope that the PC version is released very soon. This year would be perfect.

[Martijnn]

City is pretty big...

[Fido_le_muet]

Found another building.

It's some kind of warehouse located on Pier A in the LA Harbor.

You can see it on the artwork below (from the GTA Online poster)

I know it's an artwork but I'm pretty convinced that this building will be ingame.

Sorry for quoting myself but I found another real life building

 

It's a small pier along Seaside Avenue on Terminal Island, Long Beach.

[Alexey86]

That map looks small.

they said it was bigger than GTA4+SA+RDR. What more do you want, you already know the size of those 3 maps. Small-bigg thats the size, its way smaller than Just Cause 2, but in that huge map you have nothing else to do but just walk/fly around. In GTA5 there are lots of details and stuff to do inside the map that makes it look more lively, as well as a lot of builduings to enter. Its the best city simulator yet, with lots of space to explore and make use of plains.

 

 

[johntheguy]

The city does look kind of small. Look at how few roads there are. There are only a handful of main arteries and they cut right through the entire city. If there were more sideroads and offstreets it would make the map seem larger but as it stands it seems like you can easily just drive north in a straight line and be out of there in no time.

[skyesqualo]

the mystery airfield could potentially be a well hidden airfield by Rockstar in the North West or North region of the map as rumored with a Paleto Bay airfield.

 

in the promotion for the Elitas travel it points out about buying a jet to fly up to Paleto Bay.

 

this obviously is possible but as yet we havent been shown an airstrip so if it exists its ben well hidden.

I made a post about an unknown airfield a few days ago, and I also think this hangar is the only glimpse we have seen of it:

http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-scre...ze/860-1280.jpg

 

Doesn't help much with mapping it though.

I seen your post the other day, but think it was late night, and unfortunately I didn't realise the point was you had identified a possibility that the Vapid hanger actually has two locations.

 

I.e the pics show differences so it could be two hangars on two different airfields. I believe you may be onto something here, but a lot of people might just think the angles could be hiding some details you highlighted in each photo, but cannot always place the same objects due to angles.

 

I personally have always thought 4 was a sensible number.

 

LSX

SS Airfield

Zancudo Military Base

Unknown airfield probably in the North or North West, near Paleto Bay

 

I hope so, but its not a deal breaker. This game is ground breaking, absolutely unbelievable what they are achieving with it.

I think it would be pretty silly to make so many planes and aerial vehicles to use and only have 3 places to land them on such a vast map. My guess is up north also. I think Paleto has one because of the wording of the hiring a bizjet brochure.. Just my opinion though.

A lot of us didnt like that IV didnt feature aircraft as Rockstar felt the game map was too small. However, we would have welcomed them with open arms if they had of decided to do a U-turn with that decision.

 

People are now pointing out they think its 'silly' that there isnt another major airport/landing strip for planes to 'fly to'.

We now have planes and people still feel the need to complain.

 

I wonder if those people would have used that argument and moaned the same if IV featured planes.

Hardly a complaint, Its an opinion and for me Its pointless in putting so many aircraft in the game and making flying a major part of it and only having 3 places to do it from on such a huge map. That's why I reckon there is a place to land in the North.

[LotusRIP]

 

 

[Fido_le_muet]

Nothing new to map unfortunately.

I added a couple rocks on my map that's all

[hachiroku]

 

 

Is there some sort of building in the bottom?

[LotusRIP]

The perspective isn't 100% perfect (they're not giant humans...)

But this gives an idea of location at least, and maybe some idea of overall perspective

Note: No new islands in sight @Kindled

 

[choc_tpot]

 

Nothing new to map unfortunately.

I added a couple rocks on my map that's all

Is that not a small lake/reservoir on the plateau between the airfield and the prison?

 

Doesn't seem geographically possible but definitely appears to be a small body of water behind that small building

Edited September 4, 2013 by choc_tpot

[Martijnn]

That map looks small.

they said it was bigger than GTA4+SA+RDR. What more do you want, you already know the size of those 3 maps. Small-bigg thats the size, its way smaller than Just Cause 2, but in that huge map you have nothing else to do but just walk/fly around. In GTA5 there are lots of details and stuff to do inside the map that makes it look more lively, as well as a lot of builduings to enter. Its the best city simulator yet, with lots of space to explore and make use of plains.

Didnt mean that actually. I just know the map will be big. But the fanmade one looks smallish to me.

[koeklin]

 

Found another building.

It's some kind of warehouse located on Pier A in the LA Harbor.

You can see it on the artwork below (from the GTA Online poster)

 

I know it's an artwork but I'm pretty convinced that this building will be ingame.

Nice find : Berth 155 and its clock tower

 

 

links :

http://www.trainweb.org/richard/APTA/APTA_Page_2.html (image above)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/c-j-b/4490219...57600098395083/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/22nd_st_photos/8282507029/

[PoliceFarm]

I love how much detail they've put into the desert, they didn't just settle with a barren area around the airstrip, the whole place is littered with little locations to have shootouts in and places to race through. There's just as much care put into the depth of Blaine County as there is in Los Santos, which is why I always think it's pointless to only use LS in comparisons with GTA 4, as if the countryside may as well be scrapped just for more city.

[Fido_le_muet]

Nice find : Berth 155 and its clock tower

 

 

links :

http://www.trainweb.org/richard/APTA/APTA_Page_2.html (image above)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/c-j-b/4490219...57600098395083/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/22nd_st_photos/8282507029/

Great !

Couldn't find the name of that building.

It's a great addition. Very nice looking building

[Ignaz]

[urbaezru]

@LotusRIP Is that Los Santos in the distance in the second picture?