Mapping Los Santos! Building/landmark analysis

[brian.]

A friend of mine always complained about how "flat" gta iv was in lighting. GTA V is improved, but not a whole lot in the videos we see it's still lit sort of flatly, at least in videos.

 

The fog and lighting are much better, the draw distance is improved a lot, it looks good, but this is the stuff that goes with the 'lit flat" argument - because the depth is not complimented enough by the lighting in the world, and it in fact in some places serves to confuse the viewer (for example, this lake, which is really a mountain)

 

As you can see in this screen, though from another game, it is easy to see on Wasteland, it instantly came to mind to give an example.

 

If you go over to the trees in the background that are all the same color, they will all be better like the ones up close:

 

(not my screen, u can get better examples, but this was the first one that showed it clearly to compare - if I just used GTA it would still be confusing)

 

 

It's just skipping the final levels of mip maps that far out and just rendering it all a darker shade of the lighting on the darker side as if it's just geometry without textures, it's complimented by the fog, it all works together.

 

It causes that kind of confusion in what you're seeing, but it's getting better and better. I find some of the GTA V screenshots to be more an indication of Rockstar North's progress as developers more so than the video captures in this way.

 

edit: and there is more to it than that - I mean, I could go on about how the trees are imposters in the mw2 shot switched in once the close ones reach "fully fogged" "depth-based shading" status, but it would be boring and go too far off topic.

 

Long story short: It's a mountain side, no worries. But this rendering "artifact" (artifact to the viewer, not necessarily in the render) was a perfectly valid reason to think it was a lake when you can't go to it and check for yourself

Edited September 2, 2013 by brian.

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Wat?

[DuPz0r]

Did anyone here ever find the location of the mountain in the first trailer? I think it might be somewhere behind San Chainsi looking towards Chiliad...

[no_snacks]

 

 

I have marked these points out in Green on the image below.

There is an area near to it which appears undefined which I marked out in red. this area has a building in its center. it is a large flat area, you guys may already know what it is. (I'm new so go easy)

 

 

hmmm, is it me or does that "undefined area" look alot like the place franklin has the shootout with the ballas in the gameplay trailer?

possibly, I watched that bit again but I wasn't sure.

there is a mountain range to Franklin's right and he could only be looking away from the bridge as there is no bridge visible from Franklin's viewpoint

Is there a mountainous area to the right of the "Undefined area" I marked out in my image?

Is there a mountain range to the right of Franklin?

That would be a yes.

[_Kindled_]

 

I have marked these points out in Green on the image below.

There is an area near to it which appears undefined which I marked out in red. this area has a building in its center. it is a large flat area, you guys may already know what it is. (I'm new so go easy)

 

 

hmmm, is it me or does that "undefined area" look alot like the place franklin has the shootout with the ballas in the gameplay trailer?

possibly, I watched that bit again but I wasn't sure.

there is a mountain range to Franklin's right and he could only be looking away from the bridge as there is no bridge visible from Franklin's viewpoint

Is there a mountainous area to the right of the "Undefined area" I marked out in my image?

Is there a mountain range to the right of Franklin?

That would be a yes.

http://i.imgur.com/66mjXQ0.jpg?1

An ever-changing profile pic.

[DaRkL3AD3R]

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This is freaking AWESOME!!!

 

Bookmarked. Will check out daily until release

[Seeto200]

 

I have marked these points out in Green on the image below.

There is an area near to it which appears undefined which I marked out in red. this area has a building in its center. it is a large flat area, you guys may already know what it is. (I'm new so go easy)

 

 

hmmm, is it me or does that "undefined area" look alot like the place franklin has the shootout with the ballas in the gameplay trailer?

possibly, I watched that bit again but I wasn't sure.

there is a mountain range to Franklin's right and he could only be looking away from the bridge as there is no bridge visible from Franklin's viewpoint

Is there a mountainous area to the right of the "Undefined area" I marked out in my image?

Is there a mountain range to the right of Franklin?

That would be a yes.

If I could I'd give you gold star.

 

[gta-puk]

 

This is the real road from the Yankton Screenshot. This is Nipton Road.

 

North Yankton = Nipton.

 

 

North Yankton wont be in the game! Its a postcard nothing else.

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This is the real road from the Yankton Screenshot. This is Nipton Road.

 

North Yankton = Nipton.

 

 

North Yankton wont be in the game! Its a postcard nothing else.

[no_snacks]

 

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I'm just getting a spinning loading wheel for several minutes.

Do I need to sign up & log in to make it load?

Can't wait to check it out.

[grumpy cat meme]

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I'm just getting a spinning loading wheel for several minutes.

Do I need to sign up & log in to make it load?

Can't wait to check it out.

lolwut.

[no_snacks]

 

Did anyone here ever find the location of the mountain in the first trailer? I think it might be somewhere behind San Chainsi looking towards Chiliad...

http://i.imgur.com/rS3R4LJ.jpg

That bloody hiker scene has been a real pain in the arse.

There have been several theories put forward.

Most of them are plausible, but we don't have enough visual evidence to pinpoint it 100%.

I agree with your theory.

Check out this post from a while back.

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?act=ST&...st&p=1062898080

Just ignore the shed bit from the top of Mt Chiliad. It was posted before we knew which direction the cable car went.

 

BTW. This will be one of the first places I visit when I get the game, just to finally put it to rest.

[no_snacks]

 

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I'm just getting a spinning loading wheel for several minutes.

Do I need to sign up & log in to make it load?

Can't wait to check it out.

lolwut.

Settle down.

His map isn't loading on my screen.

I just asked if I need to do anything to make it load.

 

If you can help rather than be a jerk, then do so.

[The Leprechaun]

Does anyone have a decent 'unfolded' image of the Northern Blueprint Map?

[no_snacks]

 

Does anyone have a decent 'unfolded' image of the Northern Blueprint Map?

These were the best 2 I could find.

 

Edit. I can't remember who posted the 1st one, sorry.

I'm pretty sure zombie elvis posted the 2nd one.

[StJimmy]

True, but you can plainly see a tunnel going through the mountain in the picture on the last page. If it weren't for the tunnel, I would've thought it was a lake too.

But is it a tunnel ? The only thing that hints at that is that the road stops. It would look the same way if it was a road that stopped at the shore of a lake.

 

I'm gonna stop now. I realize this is a pretty strawman argument on my part, and this thread has had far too many of those.

I don't know what to think of it antmore, it could be both, what do you think wayne?

I'd say 99% not a lake.

It's just the steep side of the mountain/hill, that's why there are no trees on it.

Also, it's a railroad, not a normal road, you can even see a railbridge underneath the tracks, which goes into the tunnel.

I believe the tracks come out again on the SW edge of Mt. Chiliad on the Califia Bridge.

 

 

Your profile pic is from leak.

Yeah.

Not sure if it's a spoiler though.

I see how long before a mod gets me to remove it.

No, it's from the campaign video, which is not a leak...

[aussieozzyaussie]

 

I can't remember this has been mentioned before, but i swear i see a lake inside the red form. Watch the road on the southeast that goes Half way across the lake and (according to me) leads to a small island.

 

If it's just me getting crazy at last, please let me know and i will visit a doctor

Wtf, can't edit it on my iphone, but i wanted to ask if this could be whetstone area or something, with the lake included

 

But wait gwaha, i will get back on this and watch some gameplay (hate it when i have to watch all those things over and over to find some proof

I believe that's just a mountain. A tunnel can be seen here...

Sure thing, there could be a tunnel there, but i have 3 more questions:

1: i don't see the shape of a mointain in it, where do you see that?

2: the 2 'things' in the north-east look like small islands, right?

3: why are there no trees / mountain colloring?

 

 

Ow, and some people were talking about kifflom or something and an enterance?? Could be a tunnel then, on a island. Or.... O wait, i have to visit a doctor now, i finally got crazy

 

 

 

 

I believe this to be the area the train screenshot was taken...

 

Edited September 2, 2013 by aussieozzyaussie

[brian.]

Not sure totally, but I think that screenshot is further left of the picture

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Thought about that area as a canyon.

[aussieozzyaussie]

Not sure totally, but I think that screenshot is further left of the picture

it doesn't appear to be the exact spot but it could more than easily be the other side of the tunnel..

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Not sure totally, but  I think that screenshot is further left of the picture

it doesn't appear to be the exact spot but it could more than easily be the other side of the tunnel..

Doubt it. The before mountains seemed taller. Plus, I think that area was found already.

[aussieozzyaussie]

Not sure totally, but  I think that screenshot is further left of the picture

it doesn't appear to be the exact spot but it could more than easily be the other side of the tunnel..

the mountain doesn't have to be the same on both sides.. but it could be further down the river.. part of a loop even? I think it defenantly is the AREA but not the exact spot.

[_Kindled_]

 

Not sure totally, but  I think that screenshot is further left of the picture

it doesn't appear to be the exact spot but it could more than easily be the other side of the tunnel..

the mountain doesn't have to be the same on both sides.. but it could be further down the river.. part of a loop even? I think it defenantly is the AREA but not the exact spot.

Th trainrack appears to be longer.

[no_snacks]

True, but you can plainly see a tunnel going through the mountain in the picture on the last page. If it weren't for the tunnel, I would've thought it was a lake too.

But is it a tunnel ? The only thing that hints at that is that the road stops. It would look the same way if it was a road that stopped at the shore of a lake.

 

I'm gonna stop now. I realize this is a pretty strawman argument on my part, and this thread has had far too many of those.

I don't know what to think of it antmore, it could be both, what do you think wayne?

I'd say 99% not a lake.

It's just the steep side of the mountain/hill, that's why there are no trees on it.

Also, it's a railroad, not a normal road, you can even see a railbridge underneath the tracks, which goes into the tunnel.

I believe the tracks come out again on the SW edge of Mt. Chiliad on the Califia Bridge.

 

 

Your profile pic is from leak.

Yeah.

Not sure if it's a spoiler though.

I see how long before a mod gets me to remove it.

No, it's from the campaign video, which is not a leak...

The one I have now is from the campaign video, but I had one earlier that was from one of the leaked commercials, so I removed it.

[aussieozzyaussie]

I also recall seeing a part of the same area where 2 trains collide

[AleX AciD]

 

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See that line? This is a fresh start, page one of the thread. Everything above/before this line is redundant sh*te (with the exception of the main post, naturally), and should not be commented on, let alone quoted.

Everything??? OK.

I will not post my

 

redundant sh*te

maps ever again.

 

Maybe you should go further and just delete everything except main post?

[no_snacks]

C'mon guys. This stuff is weeks or months old.

 

[aussieozzyaussie]

C'mon guys. This stuff is weeks or months old.

 

thanks for the clarification on that

[no_snacks]

 

C'mon guys.  This stuff is weeks or months old.

 

 

thanks for the clarification on that

No worries. Here is another example.

I can't quite make out the arched bridge, but I can see something in the yellow circle.

It would be in that rough location, so it probably is. Can't confirm though.

 

[aussieozzyaussie]

 

C'mon guys.  This stuff is weeks or months old.

 

 

thanks for the clarification on that

No worries. Here is another example.

I can't quite make out the arched bridge, but I can see something in the yellow circle.

It would be in that rough location, so it probably is. Can't confirm though.

 

can't see much personally there but I know what you are getting at.. its more than possible that there is a bridge or something there...

 

on a second look I can see its the other side of the tunnel.

Edited September 2, 2013 by aussieozzyaussie