Mapping Los Santos! Building/landmark analysis

[mrSQUADKINGS]

Not sure if some of you compared thise 2 yet.. but ye... i think we know were the military/prison is located...

pretty much juuuust on the other side of Vinewood hill..

 

[gwaha]

Rockstar has left out a lot of areas of Los Angeles as well. If Rockstar can leave out areas in Los Angeles proper I see no reason to expect Santa Catalina is in.

 

And in the following picture as posted by kesta, the south west is where the airport is at:

 

http://www.rockstargames.com/V/screenshots...ot/481/1280.jpg

 

Edit:

 

@mrSQUADKINGS

 

The prison can be found in the middle of Fido's map:

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/...77959/lightbox/

Edited July 31, 2013 by gwaha

[digital31]

First time poster but i've been reading this thread for about a month now. Filo, your mapping skills are fantastic, i love what everyone has been putting together. Its a shame the thread went off topic and people started to argue over the inclusion of more cities.

 

After reading some debating over the motion blur on the car image and whether the highway sign said Las Venuras heres my ten pence worth

 

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/9744/nl2y.jpg

 

reworking images was my career for many years. As you can see, even with sharpening, the image will not come through. This is due to the fact that if the information isnt there to be corrected, it cant be. Which is what has happened here. It wouldnt surprise me to find out rockstar have indeed blurred the writing deliberately even more, so its impossible to decipher (the reason for this would be to create more intrigue and speculation rather than deliberately hiding something). You can see more detailing around the mountain range has been sharpened. Even the building right in the distance has come into focus, but the writing hasn't. All name guessing is completely speculative.

 

With regards to there being another city, i dont think there is. Maybe rockstar will take certain landmarks from other southern californian cities such as San Diego and put them into the smaller towns who knows?

 

I think they're focusing on one huge, major cosmopolitan city which will have different vibes in each neighbourhoods. Everything coming out of rockstar is hinting towards this.

 

I also think the difference between this map and others such as RDR is that the "wilderness" will be more interactive and have much more to do. Even the town will be more interactive. Again take RDR for example, the towns designed were very different but i also thought there was a lot of wasted space. Thieves Landing was such full of potential but it hardly featured in the game, it felt such a waste.

 

In GTA V i think they'll make sure theres stuff going on for you to want to keep coming bak to the other areas on top of the huge sprawl that is LS.

 

Anyway, thats my contribution. Sorry its off topic for the map thread. Mods please feel free to move this post or indeed delete it if you're all getting too frustrated with this debate.

 

I know im 2013 ,but hopefully ive added a half decent contribution

Now this was a great post.

[kesta195]

Rockstar has left out a lot of areas of Los Angeles as well. If Rockstar can leave out areas in Los Angeles proper I see no reason to expect Santa Catalina is in.

 

And in the following picture as posted by kesta, the south west is where the airport is at:

 

http://www.rockstargames.com/V/screenshots...ot/481/1280.jpg

Very true, but then again, and island is a great deal more unique than just another suburb, and excitement would be through the roof if the first time you booted it up, you could spot the island on the horizon. About the blur in this pic I mentioned earlier: you can actually see it just by tilting your screen away from you.

[omawnakw]

 

Not sure if some of you compared thise 2 yet.. but ye... i think we know were the military/prison is located... 

pretty much juuuust on the other side of Vinewood hill..

 

http://i.imgur.com/DyD6ObR.jpg

You're 100% right, so thanks! But pretty late, it is already on the maps made here and there is even a thread about the prison since January http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtop...st&p=1062147949 That new screen from the gameplay trailer has been discussed, adds not so much new to the maps, maybe slight correction, but give us more close view of the towers.

Edited July 31, 2013 by omawnakw

[gwaha]

@X--MidNite--X

 

If you have the time (and want to, no pressure) could you deblur the following screenshot for us just to see if there is anything behind the airport?

 

http://www.rockstargames.com/V/screenshots...ot/481/1280.jpg

 

 

[_Kindled_]

@X--MidNite--X

 

If you have the time (and want to, no pressure) could you deblur the following screenshot for us just to see if there is anything behind the airport?

 

http://www.rockstargames.com/V/screenshots...ot/481/1280.jpg

[digital31]

@X--MidNite--X

 

If you have the time (and want to, no pressure) could you deblur the following screenshot for us just to see if there is anything behind the airport?

 

http://www.rockstargames.com/V/screenshots...ot/481/1280.jpg

I didnt know it was really possible to do that. That would be cool if you could though. I'd like to see it

[X--MidNite--X]

I'll certainly give it a go.

 

But you have to understand these are generated graphics not a picture. It's all down to how much information is on screen. In a real photo for example, you can rework an image through some cloud and extract the information. On something computer generated its totally down to whether it was actually drawn in on screen in the first place.

 

But let me have a look...

[zombie elvis]

 

I think R* are keeping something back from us that is huge, and I mean really HUGE.

 

Anyway, heres something I found. I'm not sure this place has been positioned on the map yet, but I think the plane picture was taken 500 to 1000 feet to the left of the quad picture.

 

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Trevor's Atv is in Sandy Shores if that's the same aerial mast behind him, so just North of the airstrip. Other direction but literally just over the road from there. A while back I pointed out you can faintly see the mystery buildings in the new pic too.

Edited July 31, 2013 by zombie elvis

[X--MidNite--X]

Sorry to sound a bit of an ejit, but where is the airport on that image? I cant make it out.

[unclefucker]

 

On something computer generated its totally down to whether it was actually drawn in on screen in the first place.

 

 

 

What he said ^^^^

 

I think you guys have been watching too many episodes of CSI. With the exception of reducing a limited amount of motion blur, you can't "unblur" a picture. You especially can't unblur bokeh, which is what you're seeing on that sign that some people seem to think says Las Venturas or whatever. If something is out of focus then it's out of focus. Unless you have a Lytro camera.

 

And as for pulling more info out of the shadows or whatever, how far do you think you can really stretch a compressed 8bit jpeg?!?

[kesta195]

Sorry to sound a bit of an ejit, but where is the airport on that image? I cant make it out.

Just to the right of the Vincent Thomas bridge.

[gwaha]

@ X--MidNite--X

 

Thanks a lot. And yes, I understand that with a real photo it is much easier whereas with something from a game you may not. I am just not good with these photo programs myself, although I have attempted to try to read blurred text before and noticed it just wasn't possible.

 

@unclef*cker

 

Trust me, I am not thinking you can "pull a CSI" or whatever but there have been people in this thread who have tried to put objects in the back more into focus and that is the only thing I am looking for. I am not expecting it to work but one never knows if you don't even try. And heck, I always want to see if this "Santa Catalina" argument has any evidence, and I am simply more on the side of doubting there is anything there.

Edited July 31, 2013 by gwaha

[Blitzkriegboom2]

I think i may have an idea what the blurred out freeway sign says:

 

Could it be LA VENTANA?

 

As we know there may be a place/city/area called LA PUERTA right?

LA PUERTA in english is THE DOOR..

LA VENTANA means THE WINDOW...

The prefix VENT may have led us to believe it says ventura or venturas

 

Could the door and the window be Rockstars play/parody on the nickname of San Diego the door?

 

Hope this helps a little bit

Edited July 31, 2013 by Blitzkriegboom2

[zombie elvis]

 

And as for pulling more info out of the shadows or whatever, how far do you think you can really stretch a compressed 8bit jpeg?!?

Doing Auto white balance adjustments on patches of similar shades has worked wonders for me. It's not adding anything that wasn't there but it makes things a lot easier to see.

[unclefucker]

Doesn't look like there's anything there. How do you even know that's where the airport is?

 

[hancekyle]

I cant make out anything beyond the airport. There is a streak that goes across the sky but im 99% sure i got quite excited over a cloud

 

http://i.imgur.com/e9tVs3a.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/Kt0eqAD.jpg

[gwaha]

 

I think it may have an idea what the blurred out freeway sign says:

 

Could it be LA VENTANA?

 

As we know there may be a place/city/area called LA PUERTA right?

LA PUERTA in english is THE DOOR..

LA VENTANA means THE WINDOW...

The prefix VENT may have led us to believe it says ventura or venturas

 

Could the door and the window be Rockstars play/parody on the nickname of San Diego the door?

 

Hope this helps a little bit

I doubt it because the length of the first word just can't possibly be just two letters. I think it is either 4 or 5 letters long.

 

@unclef*cker

 

The airport is the tract of land to the right of the big bridge and the closest to the horizon. I see nothing beyond the airport though.

Edited July 31, 2013 by gwaha

[X--MidNite--X]

Hope this helps

 

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/6660/m5ke.jpg

 

I've got a little extreme in levels and sharpening in a hope it brings out more detail

[gwaha]

Thanks, X--MidNite--X. Edit: And thanks, hancekyle.

 

I don't see anything beyond the airport in that picture/those pictures either. Could Rockstar be hiding another island? Sure, but I haven't seen a visual evidence for it yet.

[kesta195]

Doesn't look like there's anything there. How do you even know that's where the airport is?

Almost 2 years of mapping.

[unclefucker]

Doesn't look like there's anything there.  How do you even know that's where the airport is?

Almost 2 years of mapping.

Where's the screen shots? I must have missed those.

[ChatterBoxFM]

 

 

I posted this a long time ago.

[hancekyle]

Doesn't look like there's anything there.  How do you even know that's where the airport is?

Almost 2 years of mapping.

Where's the screen shots? I must have missed those.

The blueprint Rockstar released shows the airport being there too.

[gwaha]

Blueprint:

 

 

Fanmade map by Fido:

 

[unclefucker]

Doesn't look like there's anything there.  How do you even know that's where the airport is?

Almost 2 years of mapping.

Where's the screen shots? I must have missed those.

The blueprint Rockstar released shows the airport being there too.

Yea I know, but who says that's the airport? Planes would be landing or taking off right in the path of the scyscrapers in the downtown area.

 

It could just be a straight road.

[WolfbackGames]

Doesn't look like there's anything there.  How do you even know that's where the airport is?

Almost 2 years of mapping.

Where's the screen shots? I must have missed those.

The blueprint Rockstar released shows the airport being there too.

Yea I know, but who says that's the airport? Planes would be landing or taking off right in the path of the scyscrapers in the downtown area.

 

It could just be a straight road.

You've never seen an airport irl, have you?

[ChatterBoxFM]

Doesn't look like there's anything there.  How do you even know that's where the airport is?

Almost 2 years of mapping.

Where's the screen shots? I must have missed those.

The blueprint Rockstar released shows the airport being there too.

Yea I know, but who says that's the airport? Planes would be landing or taking off right in the path of the scyscrapers in the downtown area.

 

It could just be a straight road.

It's obviously the airport. The planes land and take off ocean side.

[unclefucker]

Blueprint:

 

 

Fanmade map by Fido:

 

I like the wqay Fido made up the bottom bit, or does he work for Rockstar?

 

You guys are wasting your time with all this mapping shizzle. Nobody knows anything apart from what's on the blueprint.