Mapping Los Santos! Building/landmark analysis

[Smaher]

^^ @zombie elvis,  from this shot released by Sony:

 

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3738/9017745...1a449e579_z.jpg

 

And the photo with rocks I've posted above taken on Google Street view in Victorvile, a view in the direction of Mojave Narrows from D street http://goo.gl/maps/Tdnzj

@Smaher maybe you're right.

But please do not quote so large posts such as this my one entirely with all the pictures.

 

Another nice photo of Apple Valley, the fog just like in the game

http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/...um/12280895.jpg

 

EDIT @countrymike84 it is definitely the Alamo Sea, it was proofed many times and so there is no doubt about it now and it could not be the Zancudo river. And it is facing east or east-southeast because Vinewood hill is rotated clockwise relative to the city (and so the Vinewood sign facing southwest).

Yeah, when I went to the location, I went underneath and saw this.

 

http://s15.postimg.org/bygi7pctn/deserted_e.jpg

I thought it looked similar to this.

http://s9.postimg.org/93q3ia93j/trevor.jpg

I know it doesn't look that much alike, but it's most likely behind the Alamo mountains.

 

http://http://s9.postimg.org/93q3ia93j/trevor.jpg

 

Remove excess 'http' from the URLs.

The cactus-like bush you marked 'stick' is Joshua tree actually. There are a lot of them in Mojave desert.

 

EDIT: or maybe do not do that because you need to remove excess white space from your pictures before. And, yes, the area in your picture from panoramio looks more like the another area where Trevor burns a house. Ha-ha and what is that white ellipsoid spots?

The white stuff is where i messed up, I tried to see if there were shrubs like the one with Trevor, and i never thought about the house Trevor burned, nice find.

[artificialguy]

Any idea of where these buildings are situated ?

 

So far... nowhere.

We haven't seen any of those in the screenshots released so far.

The Biltmore Hotel is in though but not the iconic tower (weird).

No Union Station is bugging me...

 

 

I tried to locate Union Station, but no clues at all so far. I believe that if there will be trains, there should be Unity Station.

[Smaher]

Any idea of where these buildings are situated ?

 

So far... nowhere.

We haven't seen any of those in the screenshots released so far.

The Biltmore Hotel is in though but not the iconic tower (weird).

No Union Station is bugging me...

 

 

I tried to locate Union Station, but no clues at all so far. I believe that if there will be trains, there should be Unity Station.

I did, it might not be accurate, though.

[streetx1xracer]

^^ @zombie elvis,  from this shot released by Sony:

 

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3738/9017745...1a449e579_z.jpg

 

And the photo with rocks I've posted above taken on Google Street view in Victorvile, a view in the direction of Mojave Narrows from D street http://goo.gl/maps/Tdnzj

@Smaher maybe you're right.

But please do not quote so large posts such as this my one entirely with all the pictures.

 

Another nice photo of Apple Valley, the fog just like in the game

http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/...um/12280895.jpg

 

EDIT @countrymike84 it is definitely the Alamo Sea, it was proofed many times and so there is no doubt about it now and it could not be the Zancudo river. And it is facing east or east-southeast because Vinewood hill is rotated clockwise relative to the city (and so the Vinewood sign facing southwest).

Yeah, when I went to the location, I went underneath and saw this.

 

I thought it looked similar to this.

I know it doesn't look that much alike, but it's most likely behind the Alamo mountains.

i bit off topic but does the left mountain have snow or is it a cliff?

[Smaher]

 

^^ @zombie elvis,  from this shot released by Sony:

 

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3738/9017745...1a449e579_z.jpg

 

And the photo with rocks I've posted above taken on Google Street view in Victorvile, a view in the direction of Mojave Narrows from D street http://goo.gl/maps/Tdnzj

@Smaher maybe you're right.

But please do not quote so large posts such as this my one entirely with all the pictures.

 

Another nice photo of Apple Valley, the fog just like in the game

http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/...um/12280895.jpg

 

EDIT @countrymike84 it is definitely the Alamo Sea, it was proofed many times and so there is no doubt about it now and it could not be the Zancudo river. And it is facing east or east-southeast because Vinewood hill is rotated clockwise relative to the city (and so the Vinewood sign facing southwest).

Yeah, when I went to the location, I went underneath and saw this.

 

I thought it looked similar to this.

I know it doesn't look that much alike, but it's most likely behind the Alamo mountains.

i bit off topic but does the left mountain have snow or is it a cliff?

If you mean the real life picture, i don't no, I'm pretty confused about that.

[streetx1xracer]

^^ @zombie elvis,  from this shot released by Sony:

 

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3738/9017745...1a449e579_z.jpg

 

And the photo with rocks I've posted above taken on Google Street view in Victorvile, a view in the direction of Mojave Narrows from D street http://goo.gl/maps/Tdnzj

@Smaher maybe you're right.

But please do not quote so large posts such as this my one entirely with all the pictures.

 

Another nice photo of Apple Valley, the fog just like in the game

http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/...um/12280895.jpg

 

EDIT @countrymike84 it is definitely the Alamo Sea, it was proofed many times and so there is no doubt about it now and it could not be the Zancudo river. And it is facing east or east-southeast because Vinewood hill is rotated clockwise relative to the city (and so the Vinewood sign facing southwest).

Yeah, when I went to the location, I went underneath and saw this.

 

I thought it looked similar to this.

I know it doesn't look that much alike, but it's most likely behind the Alamo mountains.

i bit off topic but does the left mountain have snow or is it a cliff?

If you mean the real life picture, i don't no, I'm pretty confused about that.

the real picture has few spots of snow. but the ingame pic looks its either snow a cliffside/rock

[kjacked]

Alamo sea is the south east of the map according to Rockstar,  according to CVG.

 

*___*

Huh?

From the newest vid´s from CVG. Nr 28/29 they talk about the presentaition in Polen and they said the AlamoSea is located more in the SE of the map.

Rockstar confirmed that.

Also they said the freefall from a jump out of a plane takes more then 2-3 minutes. The Freefall!!! Not with an opened parachute. So you can imagine how high planes can go and also that the map and the details what we got at this time can grow up the thinking about the maps what are build at this time in this forum.

Maybe there is something true about the thinkings the map is used and printed bothsided.

do you have no common sense? they said from the time they jumped out of the plane to the time they landed took around 3 minutes. they didnt say from the time they jumped to the time they splattered on the ground. for f*cks sake, they even talked about looking around the map as they parachuted down. a parachute was involved. if rockstar only knew how idiotic a lot of people were here on gta forums they would word sh*t more carefully, as would the people that saw the previews.

Thanks for your nice defamation and the thing calling me an idiot.

 

And also when there would be involved a parachute, who say´s they jumped out from the highest level that they could go whit the plane?

 

I know one thing. With every new GTA R* breaks the rules in the genere. Also they are allways very spare with informations and fakts about the games that are in progress.

 

And all pic´s, vid´s and statemantes shows only 3 locations from diffrent angles and a big clowdy nothing in the background. So i am maybe an idiot but at this time 60% are speculations, 10% leaked/confirmed and 30% hope and imagination.

 

About the statement that the CVG-Map is pretty like the same about the map where the people build here. Are you sure that R* present the whole mapview in a presentation 5 month befor the release? Ok now i knows fore myself whos the idiot.

i have no idea what it is you are trying to say, i was simply saying it was idiotic to think that the 3 minute freefall didnt involve a parachute at some point. they said from the time the jumped to the time they landed. landed... not faceplanted, not splattered, not exploded onto the ground.... landed. there was a parachute involved. people that speculate as to if there was a parachute or not probably have trouble getting dressed and tying their own shoes by themselves

[Sockpuppet]

Honestly, I wouldn't put much faith in what CVG says about geography. Remember when they made their own map and it was clearly ripped off from maps here, but with other stuff added on that didn't belong there? And it's not like the Alamo Sea was in the SE part of that map either - it was near the middle. They gotta make up a lot of bullsh*t to pad out GTAV O'clock's running time.

 

Being that I grew up in Apple Valley, I'd love to see a recognizable recreation of the area (even though that part of the map would have to be boring as hell), but even though we have pics of desert areas with Joshua trees in them, I'm not holding out much hope.

[zombie elvis]

 

Honestly, I wouldn't put much faith in what CVG says about geography. Remember when they made their own map and it was clearly ripped off from maps here, but with other stuff added on that didn't belong there? And it's not like the Alamo Sea was in the SE part of that map either - it was near the middle. They gotta make up a lot of bullsh*t to pad out GTAV O'clock's running time.

Yup. The ocean being held back behind Los Santos's dam was the funniest part.

It's annoying how they've confused a lot of people with their own confusion. When I joined here I was talking about the foggy pic possibly not showing the Alamo sea, but it's been flat out obvious that's what it is ever since we've been able to cross reference details in multiple pictures of it.

 

A really old wrong theory of mine was the Salton Sea would form the east coast of the map, and sort of blend awkwardly into the ocean to form an island. Obviously that wasn't the map Rockstar made, but it could explain CVG thinking the demo was in the Alamo sea, until they just copy a map from here showing it as a lake.

Edited June 24, 2013 by zombie elvis

[The Leprechaun]

A combination of these two images http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-scre...eenshot_065.jpg and http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-scre...eenshot_067.jpg and the second trailer has me convinced that there is a rail yard and possibly an Union Station equivalent on the southeast side of the equvalent of the 6th street bridge. The reason I say east is that is where the train seems to be coming from in the 2nd trailer, additionally there is a rail yeard north west of the bridge in real life and only slightly further NW than that is Union Station. Speculation borne on wings of probability.

[THUNDER-TRUMP]

A combination of these two images http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-scre...eenshot_065.jpg and http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-scre...eenshot_067.jpg and the second trailer has me convinced that there is a rail yard and possibly an Union Station equivalent on the southeast side of the equvalent of the 6th street bridge. The reason I say east is that is where the train seems to be coming from in the 2nd trailer, additionally there is a rail yeard north west of the bridge in real life and only slightly further NW than that is Union Station. Speculation borne on wings of probability.

With what you said and this below I think you are correct sir

 

 

[kjacked]

A combination of these two images http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-scre...eenshot_065.jpg and http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-scre...eenshot_067.jpg and the second trailer has me convinced that there is a rail yard and possibly an Union Station equivalent on the southeast side of the equvalent of the 6th street bridge. The reason I say east is that is where the train seems to be coming from in the 2nd trailer, additionally there is a rail yeard north west of the bridge in real life and only slightly further NW than that is Union Station. Speculation borne on wings of probability.

With what you said and this below I think you are correct sir

 

very nice find! it amazes me what some people on here find in the trailers and screenshots. i never would have found that.

[hrishi.kick]

man,you have made some real good maps.

 

[THUNDER-TRUMP]

Thankyou very much kjacked 8)

 

Anyway hope they nail the railyards like they did on LA Noire.

I know there wasn't much to them but I think they nailed the look and feel of them just right

[omawnakw]

A combination of these two images http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-scre...eenshot_065.jpg and http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-scre...eenshot_067.jpg and the second trailer has me convinced that there is a rail yard and possibly an Union Station equivalent on the southeast side of the equvalent of the 6th street bridge. The reason I say east is that is where the train seems to be coming from in the 2nd trailer, additionally there is a rail yeard north west of the bridge in real life and only slightly further NW than that is Union Station. Speculation borne on wings of probability.

With what you said and this below I think you are correct sir

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b501/T...gtarailyard.jpg

very nice find! it amazes me what some people on here find in the trailers and screenshots. i never would have found that.

Is there a railyard sign IRL or maybe it is inspired by this:

[RockStarNiko]

After slight disappoint of map being smaller than I was hoping for I prepare myself for basically a HD version of San Andreas, then anything bigger can be nice bonus

 

I notice some talk about Alamo Sea being SE of map and that means there is quite large map

 

Is this nonsense, don't want to get hopes up yet again

[dyz]

After slight disappoint of map being smaller than I was hoping for I prepare myself for basically a HD version of San Andreas, then anything bigger can be nice bonus

 

I notice some talk about Alamo Sea being SE of map and that means there is quite large map

 

Is this nonsense, don't want to get hopes up yet again

But GTA 5 is twice the size of GTA SA, So how is it a GTA SA HD remake??? It is massive compared with GTA SA.

[rafi_rvayy]

there are 2 mountain, and where is the Chiliad mountain? sorry if already discussed.

 

[zombie elvis]

Red line is part of the big mountain I think. There's some others hidden behind the clouds too.

[TinCan]

 

Red line is part of the big mountain I think.  There's some others hidden behind the clouds too.

I'm still a bit confused about the windfarm area. Are the hills/mountains I marked in the below screen correct, or do I have it all wrong?

 

[poncratias]

they said in the that the windfarms are seen east of alamo sea.

[LotusRIP]

 

I think some people still don't understand this quite... so thought I'd make this clear. The perspective isn't 100% right but just a rough example.

[omawnakw]

Maybe it has already been mentioned, but looks like Slauson Super Mall will be named Caribean Self Storage (or 'Carlson' or something else, not sure) in the game as a parody of Gibraltar Self Storage:

 

 

And Jeteam/Jetsam should be a parody of Maersk (it also has a terminal building in Port of LA and logo is a kind of similar).

Maersk Pacific, Pier 400 Container Terminal Building and Gate Facility, Port of Los Angeles:

 

Jeteam terminal building:

 

Pier 400 APM Terminals:

 

Containers:

 

Maerk's 'jetsam' IRL

[Fail_At_GTA]

Wow, people still think the Alamo Sea is in the south east portion of the map... Don't forget, Rockstar even said the maps on here are very close to the real map. I'm pretty sure that the placement of an entire lake being off would stop them from saying that...

[Stoic Intrusion]

1. I agree that it is ludacris to say that Salton sea is in the South East.

 

But tell me, when did R* said that the maps on here are accurate when did R* ever comment on any fanmade maps?

The CVG guys claimed that R* said they're in SE part of the map when they were watching the Trevor portion of the Demo.

But here is the funny thing the CVG guys weren't even sure wether they even were at the salton sea when they watched the Demo.

They could might as well been on the south east coast of the map.

Why do people put so much weight on what these CVG guys say. They never seemed very reliable to me, they're just fans like we are.

Edited June 24, 2013 by Kai Jellyboo

[K20]

Below image, on the right hand side... just appearing behind michael, it says tunnel. first i thought its a tunnel under a building [as it looks like a plan for building heist]. but there a van on the left of it. which looks like the entrance of the building. so could the van be escaping through the tunnel?

 

could this be a tunnel going under the mountains? or under the Alamo sea?

 

And on the very right i think its a small map of GTA V

 

Edited June 24, 2013 by kb2084

[omawnakw]

 

Red line is part of the big mountain I think.  There's some others hidden behind the clouds too.

I'm still a bit confused about the windfarm area. Are the hills/mountains I marked in the below screen correct, or do I have it all wrong?

http://i42.tinypic.com/30scz9v.jpg

Looks right but not sure, I've made a compilation of different panoramas with mountains some time ago, maybe it could be helpful:

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8007/r5.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img200/4844/ngl.png

 

Edit: @kb2084, I do not think the van photo is connected to the tunnel one, they even on the different height on the cork board. And do not see any map on the very right, just a piece of dirty paper (Or maybe a deer ).

 

Edit2 Definitely a deer:

 

Edited June 24, 2013 by omawnakw

[K20]

could be a deer.

 

but why have a drawing/photo of a deer on a heist plan wall?

[omawnakw]

 

could be a deer.

 

but why have a drawing/photo of a deer on a heist plan wall?

Because of some useful text printed on the same piece of paper.

[Pillemannscharo]

About the CVG thing, there is one point I don't get.

They are talking about the character switch in this google earth style. So they must have seen the map being zoomed out and back in again. Why can't they be a bit more accurate then? I just don't get it