Mapping Los Santos! Building/landmark analysis

[jbte]

My 3D map updated:

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8168/1p87.jpg

Wow, nice Would be cool to have an island that large.

A question: why did you rotate the Alamo Sea so much? And I think there should be mountains along the east coast with no so huge flat area like where you put '?'. I think so because of this (I used GTAKiwi's peak notation):

 

EDIT: Sorry 'J' in below part should be 'I'. And a real 'J' next to it hidden by clouds.

And, I think I got it, I was confused by the rotation. The area where you put '?' is just behind the salvation mountain. Between P and F or G, but look at the shot V4 in the GTAKiwi's map - there still no flat space.

http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/4185/s6g.png

Thank you for notify me that... hope this image helps you how I see it...

I believe, theres a "view limit" which you can't see ahead of 2 miles from camera position... all you see is that fog...

 

My other map was clearly wrong (talking about the position of vinewood mountain, compared to the screen looking east), there a new map according to that new analisys you gave me... I've fixed it...

 

Now its different, but i think it resembles almost "perfect" at every angle from gta images, best I could get...

 

[GrandMaster Smith]

I haven't really seen this be mentioned, but where is this on the map?

 

 

 

 

To the left of the rear propeller, it looks like more suburbs behind the mountain the observatory's on?

[The Leprechaun]

@Libertyking I do not think we should do this at the cost of senseless messages, off-topic or speculation. The higher this thread in the top the more probability of the next zombie invasion.

@luceberg, maybe not a medal but thanks for cookies.

@Wreak Havoc in Los Santos, @zeq2mapper, @The Leprechaun, @RockStarNiko, guys if you're trying to comply with Libertyking's request and to keep this thread in the top this way, please stop. The best thing you can keep it now, if you have nothing to say about mapping, is calm and quiet.

 

@RockStarNiko, just a little addition to zombie elvis's answer. Here is my old rough quick panorama collage of the train bridge. It is seen that large mountain in the background to the right is Zancudo, because we see the Alamo Sea to the left. And the next image is the panorama from the 2nd trailer posted here a long time ago by jbte (it has a different angle so Zancudo peak - Z in GTAKiwi's map - is not visible).

 

 

I did have a legitimate query about the little rocky thing north (probably) or southwest of LSX, I want to have a discussion about some of the things I've noticed now that I am getting more acclimated to the professionalism of the actual mappers. Like my assumption based on a similar appearance between the prison and Lancaster (LA county) Prison. I may comment on some person's self-made disappointment, but I am trying to add something to discussion in the same post.

[FelipeVinhao]

 

My 3D map updated:

Nice work out there!

 

Just one thing is bugging me, but it's about all maps in general, not only this one actually. Shouldn't the Downtown building be north of the east-west highway? Forget about it, I just found the image I was looking for, and that avenue turning right is correct.

 

[The Leprechaun]

 

My 3D map updated:

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8168/1p87.jpg

Cool!

It's getting better and better. Really nice work!

 

 

Yea looking at those pics again- defs looks like there is just one track. Trevor's scene where he jumps just before the two go head on also shows there there is just one track i think (only for a brief second) which leads me to believe that he the mission obviously required sabotaging the lines.

I wonder for what purpose Trevor makes those freight trains collide. To attract the attention of the police while the other two are robbing a place on the opposite side of the map?

I think its more to get loot.......the trains are out there in the middle of nowhere- a random accident and you get the loot you need and then its a cross country getaway from the cops- on ATV's to the dirt runaway where you have your plane ready to go and then it becomes a game of high stakes (literally) as you fly out of danger and...........sigh.......im going to pass out with excitement!! haha.

Not on topic, but related to the question at hand, and a thread I've been thinking of starting, but it might be part of the Fugitive Heist that I think Tim, Dan and GTA 5oclock discussed. as in the Fugitive there is a train crash followed by a dam jump, which I think ends up in the eastern river off of the Salton Sea due to this image http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-scre...ze/e3sony_9.jpg . Mostly off topic, but that is where I think this shot is, and that the start of this heist is in that north east area, falling all the way to the north Alamo river and ending in an escape by the eastern lighthouse out of a small dam. Highly speculative, but puts my interpretation of northern map into perspective.

 

Also, jbte, you should connect your Zancudo River to the Alamo Sea due to these images http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-scre...fullsize/25.jpg and http://blog-imgs-55.fc2.com/g/t/a/gta5st/photo001.jpg as well as Trevor's Trailer, I feel strongly suggest a connection on the western shores of the Alamo Sea and the Easternmost point of the Zancudo River. Though I have to agree that there must be something in the Southeast corner of the map because of http://blog-imgs-55.fc2.com/g/t/a/gta5st/photo001.jpg seems to indicate it, unless the wind-farm bends southward and shows the mountains to the east of Los Santos.

Edited June 18, 2013 by The Leprechaun

[j.hunt]

My 3D map updated:

f*cking ace

[K20]

I haven't really seen this be mentioned, but where is this on the map?

 

 

 

 

To the left of the rear propeller, it looks like more suburbs behind the mountain the observatory's on?

maybe this:

 

http://www.rockstargames.com/V/screenshots...t/1141/1280.jpg

 

[philley]

I haven't really seen this be mentioned, but where is this on the map?

 

 

 

 

To the left of the rear propeller, it looks like more suburbs behind the mountain the observatory's on?

maybe this:

 

http://www.rockstargames.com/V/screenshots...t/1141/1280.jpg

Yes. This has been discussed and speculated a lot!

[Solarcellular]

its at the beginning of trailer 2 as well

[bobqwerty]

@Jbte I ended up with a slightly different outcome.

 

[omawnakw]

 

@Jbte I ended up with a slightly different outcome.

 

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7329/9076209...804d17fc9_o.png

You're a strange person, bobqwerty, it is always hard to to answer to your thoughts because it is hard to realize to me, where is the root of your mistake in a particular case. Why don't you compared the night shot with the police helicopter with another famous one where the dishes seen? It would be clear to you, that your assumption about Alamo is wrong because it is bigger even if you look from the city, it is not at the east coast but at the north and so to the left in this shot and is not visible.

 

The wrong thing about jbte's original pic I think is that the mountain in the second from the left pair of circles is not the same and the below one is the mountain with the Salvation Mountain on it's base.

@Jbte, look at my post with picture again please (edit: now I see the Salvation one, it is smaller and slightly to the right and more close to the Alamo Sea). Some things are speculative like the bay next to the dam but other are pretty accurate at first sight.

 

Mountain contours are better distinguishable this way:

or even this:

Edited June 18, 2013 by omawnakw

[JH890]

Looks to be right. There's also radio mast visible in both.

 

 

[Vahnstad]

 

Not sure, if it was already mentioned.

 

[jbte]

This is my map according to areas which is well known and speculative...

 

 

In green, 100% accurate

In light green 75%

In yellow 50%

In orange 25%

In red, 0%, totally speculative

 

 

 

[GTALE]

I love your 3D maps jbte.

[bobqwerty]

@omawnakw I don't know what you're trying to say with the "salvation mt". Are you stating Mt Alamo isn't the big mountain from that pic with the yellow plane? Left from the bridge on the other image. Mount Alamo peak can't be seen in the image you posted (The mt in the middle, above "salvation mt", is mt pointy if that's the case). You do see the left arm of mt Alamo. What's your point, exactly?

[omawnakw]

 

@omawnakw I don't know what you're trying to say with the "salvation mt". Are you stating Mt Alamo isn't the big mountain from that pic with the yellow plane? Left from the bridge on the other image. Mount Alamo peak can't be seen in the image you posted (The mt in the middle, above "salvation mt", is mt pointy if that's the case). You do see the left arm of mt Alamo. What's your point, exactly?

Ignore that my notice about Salvation, I just confused the mountain where the Salvation Mountain located with the contour of the one to the left. And there is also another one behind it. Now I see it.

 

I'm not stating it is not Alamo Mt. in the shot with cropduster, I'm stating that you're wrong with your green Alamo text in that your edit of jbte's picture, that is not Alamo, Alamo is to the left and is not visible. I agree with GTAKiwi's mark about that.

Edited June 18, 2013 by omawnakw

[Miami-Florida.]

I don't know if this was found before i ain't on these forums as much as ya'll are.

But Michaels house is in the top right corner. Which would place this screenshot in Rockford Hills (Beverly Hills).

[omawnakw]

 

I don't know if this was found before i ain't on these forums as much as ya'll are.

But Michaels house is in the top right corner. Which would place this screenshot in Rockford Hills (Beverly Hills).

Haha, you've used my imageshack pic I just posted in vehicle database thread Yeah, do not not remember if it was found, nice find!

I've noticed it looks like Michael's house but I was so enthralled with that hot rod photo and many nice picturesque places around Victorville in Google street view so I did not attached any importance to it.

[Steinreicher]

I don't know if this was found before i ain't on these forums as much as ya'll are.

But Michaels house is in the top right corner. Which would place this screenshot in Rockford Hills (Beverly Hills).

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/8651/rnm4.png

Hmm...

I'm not sure about this house being the Michael's mansion.

It looks too small to me.

[kesta195]

I don't know if this was found before i ain't on these forums as much as ya'll are.

But Michaels house is in the top right corner. Which would place this screenshot in Rockford Hills (Beverly Hills).

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/8651/rnm4.png

Hmm...

I'm not sure about this house being the Michael's mansion.

It looks too small to me.

His house isn't even THAT big to be fair, it's just extravagant.

[Steinreicher]

I don't know if this was found before i ain't on these forums as much as ya'll are.

But Michaels house is in the top right corner. Which would place this screenshot in Rockford Hills (Beverly Hills).

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/8651/rnm4.png

Hmm...

I'm not sure about this house being the Michael's mansion.

It looks too small to me.

His house isn't even THAT big to be fair, it's just extravagant.

Well, to me it doesn't look like Michael's house at all.

But I agree, this screenshot is taken somewhere in Rockford Hills, maybe even near the Michael's mansion.

The position of the house also seems to be wrong, because we've already pointed out where the Michael's house is located.

[omawnakw]

I don't know if this was found before i ain't on these forums as much as ya'll are.

But Michaels house is in the top right corner. Which would place this screenshot in Rockford Hills (Beverly Hills).

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/8651/rnm4.png

Hmm...

I'm not sure about this house being the Michael's mansion.

It looks too small to me.

His house isn't even THAT big to be fair, it's just extravagant.

Well, to me it doesn't look like Michael's house at all.

But I agree, this screenshot is taken somewhere in Rockford Hills, maybe even near the Michael's mansion.

The position of the house also seems to be wrong, because we've already pointed out where the Michael's house is located.

Really, do not know, look at this, not sure what I see here, Griffith should be to the right and can't be visible, maybe it is a mansion there.

But house really looks the same, just from another distance.

[Steinreicher]

OK, here is my quote from the page 608 regarding the location of the Michael's mansion:

 

[...]

 

 

Attention! The image is very big (1280x4330p)!

1, 2 and 3 are highlighted buildings.

 

[...]

You can't really see the observatory from the position of Michael's house, because Michael's house is hidden by those three tall buildings.

Instead, on first screenshot you can notice that there are enough houses near the position of Michael's mansion which do look like the Michael's house because of the same architectural style.

So I believe that on the Hotknife-screenshot it could be any house from the Rockford Hills, but not Michael's.

[omawnakw]

 

You can't really see the observatory from the position of Michael's house, because Michael's house is hidden by those three tall buildings.

 

That's a thing I actually said. That's why I marked it '!?' in the picture, because that looks like a Griffith Observatory, but if so, it is can't be Michael's house. Or that isn't Griffith. We see nothing to the right of the house in the promo shot. But we see a building to the north I marked in red rectangle. It is not clear if it the same or not but it's height is about the same we see near the Michael's house. (EDIT: or not, it looks that high the hill in the background is but Sierra tower should look even higher)

Also I noticed this:

 

You can see a fence or a wall and a house with black or gray roof pretty in the same direction and rotation in both shots.

Edited June 19, 2013 by omawnakw

[GrandMaster Smith]

I haven't really seen this be mentioned, but where is this on the map?

 

 

 

 

To the left of the rear propeller, it looks like more suburbs behind the mountain the observatory's on?

maybe this:

 

http://www.rockstargames.com/V/screenshots...t/1141/1280.jpg

Yes. This has been discussed and speculated a lot!

What're the conclusions they've come to?

 

I've looked around and haven't really seen anyone talk about it.

 

 

To me it looks like more suburbs on the mountain tops, or the San Bernardino valley behind the observatory mountain, I'm hoping is the latter.

[The Leprechaun]

 

This is my map according to areas which is well known and speculative...

 

 

In green, 100% accurate

In light green 75%

In yellow 50%

In orange 25%

In red, 0%, totally speculative

My question about your map is where does fit in, because in and show Mt. Zancudo's Alamo Sea Village being connected to a small village on the southwestern side of the Alamo Sea via a railway bridge on above a vehicular bridge below, you can even make out road which ends up connecting to the bridge in the North Alamo River. Kind of like the real Salton Sea only the east has the farmland and the west has two wildly different types of rivers to bring variety to the map. The mountain range you've got along the Alamo Sea, I think is slightly south of the southwest Alamo village and east of the bridges to the Zancudo River. I think there is more evidence showing 3 of the 4 major rivers flowing from the Alamo Sea (the exception being the Los Santos River), though I do believe there are a few creeks not easily found.

 

Again I love your take on the the southeast, mostly whenever I see the car driving by the wind farm image http://media.gtanet.com/gallery/gta-5-scre...e/V-77-1280.jpg, I believe there has to be more in that direction.

Also, sorry for the pic vomit.

Edited June 19, 2013 by The Leprechaun

[kjacked]

also... how would the dam work on your map? you cant have a dam of the ocean... the land is above sea level so how does this work?

[The Leprechaun]

 

also... how would the dam work on your map? you cant have a dam of the ocean... the land is above sea level so how does this work?

if you're talking about jbte's map, his Pacoima dam is located in the mountain just northeast of Los Santos in the green, not connected to the Zancudo River. Also, does anyone think that there is a creek between the two mountains on the right in this . The Quad bike and having fun at the Zancudo River images seem to show a mouth spilling into the Alamo Sea from these two peaks.

Edited June 19, 2013 by The Leprechaun

[omawnakw]

^no, that is a road, just look at the GTAKiwi's, map, it was discussed many times, river is to the right of this view.

 

@GrandMaster Smith Screenshot with Griffith Observatory is pretty clear but if you have particular question please ask. We do not have any closer shots of that suburbs. Location of the second screen shot with Franklin was not identified, nobody knows where it is but is supposed to be in Malibu if i can remember properly.

I do not think it is at that peninsula in the Hollywood reservoir.

Edited June 19, 2013 by omawnakw