Mapping Los Santos! Building/landmark analysis

[RockStarNiko]

I never really focused myself on that mountain range tbh.

The first 2 look the same.

Im having my doubts about the 3rd one, but i tend to say it also looks the same as the first 2.

 

Why would it be contradicting?

Okay, so... the third image is the most obvious one. It's looking southeast, from the source of the Alamo River, in between Mt. Alamo (Mt. Trevorhead) to the left and Mt. Zancudo (Mt. Triangular) to the right, with the Vinewood Hills on the right side, running from east (far) to west (near).

 

Which of the two mountains will appear north of Vinewood Hill, when seen from the city?

 

If in that screenshot the mountains in top right are Vinewood Hills and mountain in foreground on left is Mount Trevorhead.

 

What kind of distance do you estimate there is between Vinewood sign and Mount Trevorhead (summit)

 

Also, do you think the mountain to the right of the cuban 800 in brand new screenshot is Mount Trevorhead?

[Choco Taco]

The mountain you see looking north from the city (like in the bank tower screenshot) is Mt. Zancudo.

I'm pretty sure it has to be Alamo. I originally had it as Zancudo and I had problems getting everything lined up properly according to the old screenshots. The new screenshots and trailers show that it would have to be Alamo.

[doubled]

 

I agree with your placement of that screenshot between Mt. Alamo and Mt. Zancudo and it's looking southeast.

 

I'm not sure we can see Vinewood Hills in that screenshot.

 

The mountain you see looking north from the city (like in the bank tower screenshot) is Mt. Zancudo.

If these were not the Vinewood Hills, then how come in the image below, the three smaller mountains are a perfect match?

 

And doesn't the mountain behind them, the one north of the city, clearly share a number of distinct features with Mt. Alamo?

 

http://i.imgur.com/Rz17AuI.jpg

Yeah, that's solid proof it's Vinewood Hills.

 

But let's say that big triangular mountain is Mt. Alamo, then where is Mt. Zancudo in the Bank Tower screenshot?

[lxr]

 

What kind of distance do you estimate there is between Vinewood sign and Mount Trevorhead (summit)

Estimating distances is one of the hardest things, as objects may appear far away in wide shots, and very close in zoomed-in shots.

 

So, I have no idea. And I don't think we can say anything halfway realistic about distances without an accurate 3D model.

 

Angles are easier though. Go to the top of Vinewood Hill. Draw a line towards the three small mountains. Note which mountain it hits in the distance.

 

 

But let's say that big triangular mountain is Mt. Alamo, then where is Mt. Zancudo in the Bank Tower screenshot?

On the left side, in the distance.

Edited May 8, 2013 by lxr

[Choco Taco]

But let's say that big triangular mountain is Mt. Alamo, then where is Mt. Zancudo in the Bank Tower screenshot?

Zancudo is "A"

 

[kesta195]

We can pretty much confirm then that Mt Alamo is Chiliad, as it is clearly the tallest mountain in the map, and is quite a bit higher than Mt Zancudo/Mt Josiah.

[doubled]

But let's say that big triangular mountain is Mt. Alamo, then where is Mt. Zancudo in the Bank Tower screenshot?

Zancudo is "A"

 

http://i.imgur.com/GoHUKVC.jpg

 

 

Nicely explained, can't really disagree with this. Looks like i was wrong all along.

[lxr]

And if the sudden triangular-ness of Mt. Alamo still seems too troubling: it does work out.

[doubled]

And if the sudden triangular-ness of Mt. Alamo still seems too troubling: it does work out.

Yeah, true. You guys convinced me.

 

I made this screenshot earlier today, using my imagination i can pretty much believe that it can look rectangular from another angle.

 

[artificialguy]

Updated my concept of a square based map. I'm not sure, but I think there must be 3 lighthouses at least. I will edit the rivers, the north and the windfarm, then I wil upload version 3. Any thoughts?

Map made with Google Maps API would be awesome. We could easily add screenshots locations on the map. But I believe no one has time to do something like that, even with skills in GM API.

[lxr]

Updated my concept of a square based map. I'm not sure, but I think there must be 3 lighthouses at least. I will edit the rivers, the north and the windfarm, then I wil upload version 3. Any thoughts?

Map made with Google Maps API would be awesome. We could easily add screenshots locations on the map. But I believe no one has time to do something like that, even with skills in GM API.

It's been done, see here.

 

It's just that Los Santos, and even more so the countryside around it, turns out to be quite different from real-life Los Angeles, and Southern California.

[Fido_le_muet]

@Fido, I have a question. What do you think about shape of the beach on your map, cause in my opinion it should be different.

 

Look at this screen:

 

Yeah, I know my map isn't perfect.

I can try to make things match up more correctly but I fear it's gonna be too hard

with all the stuff I have in Los Santos right now.

[RockStarNiko]

What kind of distance do you estimate there is between Vinewood sign and Mount Trevorhead (summit)

Estimating distances is one of the hardest things, as objects may appear far away in wide shots, and very close in zoomed-in shots.

 

So, I have no idea. And I don't think we can say anything halfway realistic about distances without an accurate 3D model.

 

Angles are easier though. Go to the top of Vinewood Hill. Draw a line towards the three small mountains. Note which mountain it hits in the distance.

I fully understand what your theory is, I just don't agree with it.

 

It would be surely boring if we all agreed on everything anyway.

 

I have my theory, you have yours and some other people might have a theory that different than both.

 

In the bank tower screenshot, the mountain on the left is the hill we see behind the vineyards in my opinion.

 

 

In that screenshot above I see two mountains towards the top right.

 

I see one mountain that has 3 "hills" and in front I see a mountain that slopes upwards to the right.

 

The triangular that is towards the top left, I think is the large triangular mountain but your theory is it is the small triangle mountain, the one we see in Michael trailer. But to me I look at it and it seems too big to be that small triangular one.

 

And the 3 X, Y, Z mountains they do look similar but I don't think their sizes match.

 

 

I can see how all this theory could be right, but I am not convinced so I am open to alternative theories and not just my own.

 

Also my other big problem is the distances, they do not seem large enough.

 

Example, if that Mount Trevorhead is on the complete opposite side of the map near the coast, why does it seem much closer from the bank tower screenshot?

 

We are looking across the whole map? I just don't see it.

[GuilTymAutoFive]

I think this matching is possible

But not at the same place

 

 

Edited May 8, 2013 by GuilTymAutoFive

[lxr]

 

I fully understand what your theory is, I just don't agree with it.

 

It would be surely boring if we all agreed on everything anyway.

 

I have my theory, you have yours and some other people might have a theory that different than both.

Fair enough.

 

 

Example, if that Mount Trevorhead is on the complete opposite side of the map near the coast, why does it seem much closer from the bank tower screenshot?

My understanding of the optics of these screenshots is that in wide shots (take the very wide airport runway panorama), objects appear small (Downtown), whereas in shots with a smaller field of vision, like the US Bank Tower image, objects may appear much larger.

[WhateverTrevor]

RockStarNiko, you seem to just want to ignore pages and pages of built up evidence all because you're holding out all hope for a ridiculously big map. Seriously, it's big enough as it is (with just the two huge mountains, one massive city, one vast lake, several smaller settlements and a sh*tload of explorable water).

 

I hate to be a dick, but watching some of these other guys try to explain things to you reminds me of these:

 

 

 

 

[RockStarNiko]

I fully understand what your theory is, I just don't agree with it.

 

It would be surely boring if we all agreed on everything anyway.

 

I have my theory, you have yours and some other people might have a theory that different than both.

Fair enough.

 

 

Example, if that Mount Trevorhead is on the complete opposite side of the map near the coast, why does it seem much closer from the bank tower screenshot?

My understanding of the optics of these screenshots is that in wide shots (take the very wide airport runway panorama), objects appear small (Downtown), whereas in shots with a smaller field of vision, like the US Bank Tower image, objects may appear much larger.

I believe the mountain in the above screenshot, the vineyard and valley one, is the large triangular mountain north from bank tower.

 

It has those ridges that would form those noticeable "feet" seen in vinewood telescope screenshot and I am sure i can see a river in that screenshot too and that river heads north towards the Alamo Sea, so on that point I agree with the maps posted.

 

I have a theory on why the western slope is steeper than the eastern slope.

 

In the vineyard screenshot I think the valley is sloping down away from us, so that is why western slope is steeper, it is heading to a raised area whereas the eastern slope is heading to a lower area.

[Pilotmonkey]

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Edited May 8, 2013 by Pilotmonkey

[RockStarNiko]

RockStarNiko, you seem to just want to ignore pages and pages of built up evidence all because you're holding out all hope for a ridiculously big map. Seriously, it's big enough as it is (with just the two huge mountains, one massive city, one vast lake, several smaller settlements and a sh*tload of explorable water).

 

I hate to be a dick, but watching some of these other guys try to explain things to you reminds me of these:

 

 

 

 

No i don't ignore any evidence, if I agree with something I agree, if I don't I disagree.

 

If I am not convinced by several screenshots and theories why should I just agree for the sake of it?

 

The map theory in this thread is constantly changing anyway, not so long ago everyone believed that the triangular mountain was Zancudo, now that theory has changed.

 

 

[zombie elvis]

 

O wow, geez, that would totally destory my theory i just posted. 

 

I know, I've been through all these thoughts myself, but the lighthouse area being in North East corner is what I'm sticking to for now.

The lighthouse can be at northest, that's what I thought first. Problem is: Where would Mt. Chilliah be wandering? There is something quite wrong with that Picture. All maps would have to be redraw if you're right.

 

Well it's just a theory but I think the right hand side is just another ridge coming down like this:

 

You can see the second ridge peeking over in a few shots.

 

 

I think this matching is possible

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2013/1...-05-08-2013.jpg

But not at the same place

I agree but I can't decide where it belongs. I don't think we've seen those electricity towers anywhere else but the west, but they could be hiding somewhere.

Edited May 8, 2013 by zombie elvis

[F4t4l1ty]

This may give a better idea where Frankln and a girl are in trailer 2.

 

 

@Fido and lxr: Is that Vinewood hill marked by red arrow? Because if it is V. hill, then the runway on Fido's map should point to Vinewood hill.

 

[Pilotmonkey]

[Pilotmonkey]

Edited May 8, 2013 by Pilotmonkey

[zombie elvis]

@Fido and lxr: Is that Vinewood hill marked by red arrow? Because if it is V. hill, then the runway on Fido's map should point to Vinewood hill.

 

http://s24.postimg.org/d9nfcrqzp/lsx.png

I belive you're right, also you can see that the Westin and other skyscrapers should be just out of the way of the flightpath.

[ChocoFrosty]

 

Hey, mates! I've created a panorama from the Michael's trailer. It is view from the runway 3. That was really hard, but I did.    I think this is a good stuff for landmark analysis. Click for zoom. Enjoy!

Note: some regions I've retouched.

 

 

This is really impressive.

 

Edit: You can see all the way from one side of the city (the left) to the Vincent Thomas Bridge.

Edited May 8, 2013 by ChocoFrosty

[D3ADSH0T]

Hey, mates! I've created a panorama from the Michael's trailer. It is view from the runway 3. That was really hard, but I did.    I think this is a good stuff for landmark analysis. Click for zoom. Enjoy!

Note: some regions I've retouched.

 

 

This is really impressive.

Yeah,awesome indeed. Why is LS so far away? Is it a good thing or a bad thing guys? Its probably just the hugeness of the city imo.

[GTADKNUT]

Hello dudes and dudesttes,

 

Sorry if this has been posted already, it has been a while since ive been in here, and I didn't much fancy looking through all the pages:) Great work done from the new bits ive seen so far though

 

This is what ive got, again sorry if it's not news.

 

 

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[zombie elvis]

Doesn't that road go behind the green lined building? Looks near though.

 

Edit 2: look just above the curved corner of the FIB building, there's a low building with 2 taller pillars, that looks like the one next to the car.

Edited May 8, 2013 by zombie elvis

[GuilTymAutoFive]

 

 

 

I think this matching is possible

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2013/1...-05-08-2013.jpg

But not at the same place

I agree but I can't decide where it belongs. I don't think we've seen those electricity towers anywhere else but the west, but they could be hiding somewhere.

I thought this but if It is the west side of zancudo, i just have a problem

to imagine the desert and dry herbs that we have on the picture,

so close to the green vineyard and vegetation.

The other solution is the 2nd big mountain on the east side where vegtation is more similar

[GTADKNUT]

Doesn't that road go behind the green lined building? Looks near though.

Yeah, it could very well be the road one step before..