Mapping Los Santos! Building/landmark analysis

[InternetKillTV]

We had this discussion about 100 pages ago, maybe even further. Zancudo is NOT Chilliad. It is far far too small, it is certainly not the mountain rage visible from the alamo sea. Kiwi's map shows us where Zancudo is, accurately too I believe. But one thing is for sure and that Zancudo is too small to be Chilliad. It just isn't xD

Well the motorcycle racing event seems to be located on Zancudo, that's why I assumed it was Chilliad (since it had the bike course).

Could Mountain H be Chilliad? Seems to be about as big as Zancudo, though that might be because of the perspective.

The closer mountain in this pic is Chiliad without a doubt, as it is the larger of the two mountains that border the Alamo sea and we know Chiliad borders it because IGN said so (unless they made a mistake). Also, I brought this up a while ago, look to the far right of 'Chiliad' in this pic, you can see that there is a separate mountain/cliff a far way behind it as you can see the ridge of Chiliad and another mountain behind this, so there appears to be a valley of sorts behind Chiliad.

Yes, the mountain range has the valley with multiple train bridges and the stream/river further to the right.

 

My point is that that is 100% not the zancudo river mountain range.

[kesta195]

We had this discussion about 100 pages ago, maybe even further. Zancudo is NOT Chilliad. It is far far too small, it is certainly not the mountain rage visible from the alamo sea. Kiwi's map shows us where Zancudo is, accurately too I believe. But one thing is for sure and that Zancudo is too small to be Chilliad. It just isn't xD

Well the motorcycle racing event seems to be located on Zancudo, that's why I assumed it was Chilliad (since it had the bike course).

Could Mountain H be Chilliad? Seems to be about as big as Zancudo, though that might be because of the perspective.

The closer mountain in this pic is Chiliad without a doubt, as it is the larger of the two mountains that border the Alamo sea and we know Chiliad borders it because IGN said so (unless they made a mistake). Also, I brought this up a while ago, look to the far right of 'Chiliad' in this pic, you can see that there is a separate mountain/cliff a far way behind it as you can see the ridge of Chiliad and another mountain behind this, so there appears to be a valley of sorts behind Chiliad.

Yes, the mountain range has the valley with multiple train bridges and the stream/river further to the right.

 

My point is that that is 100% not the zancudo river mountain range.

Actually I'm not sure they are the same valley, the valley with the train bridge runs South West between the triangular mountain and this mountain and the valley I have noticed here is pretty far away from that.

[RockStarNiko]

I think in this screenshot we are stood at the northern end of the Chiliad mountains.

 

Chiliad is South of our position and we are looking west towards the desert.

 

I think there are 4-7 mountains in this range, with Chiliad being the largest somewhere around the centre.

 

The river we see in that screenshot is flowing into the Alamo Sea and I believe the source is somewhere high up Chiliad peak.

 

We know that water in GTA V will be at differing elevations because we seen several waterfalls already.

 

In some of the screenshots we see the river much more narrow than in that above screenshot.

 

An example of how this river might wind and weave through the mountains is

 

Chiliad peak - heads south - heads east - heads north - heads west - heads north - heads east - heads north - heads west and into alamo sea

 

This is just an example but I believe the river we see heading into the Alamo Sea is fairly long and starts off much more narrow at source

I would agree with everything you said but for the IGN quote I put earlier, in which they stated Chiliad borders the Alamo sea, but I also said they could have been wrong and just assumed one of them was Chiliad.

I think the western slope of Chiliad heads down towards the eastern edge of Alamo Sea, so it does border it

 

I also remember there was a quote from GI or IGN that said Chiliad is surrounded by a large wilderness area.

 

Large wilderness area in my opinion means trees and forest type of environment and not desert.

 

I believe there are "desert mountains" and "wilderness mountains".

 

The mountains in foreground of above screenshot are "wilderness" and the triangular mountain seen from city and the one behind Trevor's head I believe are "desert mountains"

 

The screenshots with parachute and train etc are all wilderness ones

 

 

[kesta195]

I think in this screenshot we are stood at the northern end of the Chiliad mountains.

 

Chiliad is South of our position and we are looking west towards the desert.

 

I think there are 4-7 mountains in this range, with Chiliad being the largest somewhere around the centre.

 

The river we see in that screenshot is flowing into the Alamo Sea and I believe the source is somewhere high up Chiliad peak.

 

We know that water in GTA V will be at differing elevations because we seen several waterfalls already.

 

In some of the screenshots we see the river much more narrow than in that above screenshot.

 

An example of how this river might wind and weave through the mountains is

 

Chiliad peak - heads south - heads east - heads north - heads west - heads north - heads east - heads north - heads west and into alamo sea

 

This is just an example but I believe the river we see heading into the Alamo Sea is fairly long and starts off much more narrow at source

I would agree with everything you said but for the IGN quote I put earlier, in which they stated Chiliad borders the Alamo sea, but I also said they could have been wrong and just assumed one of them was Chiliad.

I think the western slope of Chiliad heads down towards the eastern edge of Alamo Sea, so it does border it

 

I also remember there was a quote from GI or IGN that said Chiliad is surrounded by a large wilderness area.

 

Large wilderness area in my opinion means trees and forest type of environment and not desert.

 

I believe there are "desert mountains" and "wilderness mountains".

 

The mountains in foreground of above screenshot are "wilderness" and the triangular mountain seen from city and the one behind Trevor's head I believe are "desert mountains"

 

The screenshots with parachute and train etc are all wilderness ones

Ok so looking at GTAKiwi's map on page 1, which peak would you say is Chiliad?

[RockStarNiko]

I think in this screenshot we are stood at the northern end of the Chiliad mountains.

 

Chiliad is South of our position and we are looking west towards the desert.

 

I think there are 4-7 mountains in this range, with Chiliad being the largest somewhere around the centre.

 

The river we see in that screenshot is flowing into the Alamo Sea and I believe the source is somewhere high up Chiliad peak.

 

We know that water in GTA V will be at differing elevations because we seen several waterfalls already.

 

In some of the screenshots we see the river much more narrow than in that above screenshot.

 

An example of how this river might wind and weave through the mountains is

 

Chiliad peak - heads south - heads east - heads north - heads west - heads north - heads east - heads north - heads west and into alamo sea

 

This is just an example but I believe the river we see heading into the Alamo Sea is fairly long and starts off much more narrow at source

I would agree with everything you said but for the IGN quote I put earlier, in which they stated Chiliad borders the Alamo sea, but I also said they could have been wrong and just assumed one of them was Chiliad.

I think the western slope of Chiliad heads down towards the eastern edge of Alamo Sea, so it does border it

 

I also remember there was a quote from GI or IGN that said Chiliad is surrounded by a large wilderness area.

 

Large wilderness area in my opinion means trees and forest type of environment and not desert.

 

I believe there are "desert mountains" and "wilderness mountains".

 

The mountains in foreground of above screenshot are "wilderness" and the triangular mountain seen from city and the one behind Trevor's head I believe are "desert mountains"

 

The screenshots with parachute and train etc are all wilderness ones

Ok so looking at GTAKiwi's map on page 1, which peak would you say is Chiliad?

I do not see the map the same way, so it would be pointless me saying which mountain I think is Chiliad.

 

I don't have the artistic skill, or patience to do a map of my own, but if I did it would look completely different.

 

Chiliad mountains would be on the eastern edge of the map.

 

 

[kesta195]

I think in this screenshot we are stood at the northern end of the Chiliad mountains.

 

Chiliad is South of our position and we are looking west towards the desert.

 

I think there are 4-7 mountains in this range, with Chiliad being the largest somewhere around the centre.

 

The river we see in that screenshot is flowing into the Alamo Sea and I believe the source is somewhere high up Chiliad peak.

 

We know that water in GTA V will be at differing elevations because we seen several waterfalls already.

 

In some of the screenshots we see the river much more narrow than in that above screenshot.

 

An example of how this river might wind and weave through the mountains is

 

Chiliad peak - heads south - heads east - heads north - heads west - heads north - heads east - heads north - heads west and into alamo sea

 

This is just an example but I believe the river we see heading into the Alamo Sea is fairly long and starts off much more narrow at source

I would agree with everything you said but for the IGN quote I put earlier, in which they stated Chiliad borders the Alamo sea, but I also said they could have been wrong and just assumed one of them was Chiliad.

I think the western slope of Chiliad heads down towards the eastern edge of Alamo Sea, so it does border it

 

I also remember there was a quote from GI or IGN that said Chiliad is surrounded by a large wilderness area.

 

Large wilderness area in my opinion means trees and forest type of environment and not desert.

 

I believe there are "desert mountains" and "wilderness mountains".

 

The mountains in foreground of above screenshot are "wilderness" and the triangular mountain seen from city and the one behind Trevor's head I believe are "desert mountains"

 

The screenshots with parachute and train etc are all wilderness ones

Ok so looking at GTAKiwi's map on page 1, which peak would you say is Chiliad?

I do not see the map the same way, so it would be pointless me saying which mountain I think is Chiliad.

 

I don't have the artistic skill, or patience to do a map of my own, but if I did it would look completely different.

 

Chiliad mountains would be on the eastern edge of the map.

 

But this shows the eastern edge of the Alamo sea. We know this because the sun is rising in this direction. And there aren't any significant mountains.

[Fido_le_muet]

I do not see the map the same way, so it would be pointless me saying which mountain I think is Chiliad.

 

I don't have the artistic skill, or patience to do a map of my own, but if I did it would look completely different.

 

Chiliad mountains would be on the eastern edge of the map.

I would love to see a map from you, to have your opinion on how things look.

Even if it is a quick thing, it would be interesting to see how you link things we have so far.

Kiwi's map seems to link almost every screen we have so his work seems to be the most accurate

but I'd like to see your version.

Maybe it could help clear some things who knows.

[F4t4l1ty]

Does anyone know what is it ?

 

Could It be a small airfield?

Forget the ? character. It's not correct.

 

[RockStarNiko]

I do not see the map the same way, so it would be pointless me saying which mountain I think is Chiliad.

 

I don't have the artistic skill, or patience to do a map of my own, but if I did it would look completely different.

 

Chiliad mountains would be on the eastern edge of the map.

I would love to see a map from you, to have your opinion on how things look.

Even if it is a quick thing, it would be interesting to see how you link things we have so far.

Kiwi's map seems to link almost every screen we have so his work seems to be the most accurate

but I'd like to see your version.

Maybe it could help clear some things who knows.

I did a post on page 416 that included a very basic map to show how I see the layout of the map.

 

If you think back to San Andreas that map had distinct regions of different geology, we had Red County, Whetstone, Bone County etc

 

I think the GTA V map will be similar in that way.

 

When I look at that new screenshot I see that triangular mountain towards the top left.

 

I think this triangular mountain is the same one we see in the city screenshots of Michael on skyscraper.

 

We can also see it in trailer 1 with the muscle car and hookers, trailer 2 where Trevor talking about dead bodies and in the mountain and lake screenshot.

 

I still think that the mountain and lake screenshot there are TWO mountains, one in front of the other.

 

In the new screenshot with triangular mountain you can see another mountain to the left, I think that is the same one we see in front of triangular mountain in mountain and lake screenshot

[kesta195]

 

Does anyone know what is it ?

 

Could It be a small airfield?

Forget the ? character. It's not correct.

 

Could be I do wish people would stop saying that the dam in the 'dam screenshot' is the Hollywood reservoir. The locations are no where near each other.

 

EDIT: Just to clarify this:

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=morris+dam+l...s+united+states

 

North East of downtown LA, just like in the screenshot.

Edited April 21, 2013 by kesta195

[StellarRunner]

Does anyone know what is it ?

 

Could It be a small airfield?

Forget the ? character. It's not correct.

 

wow good find

 

[mickawes]

"Mapping Los Santos! Building/landmark analysis"

 

The best topic on this forum ! And the only one that make me come here

[Fido_le_muet]

Very interesting stuff.

That structure in the background may well be the Hollywood Reservoir.

And looks like it is located near the Observatory. The location seems to be on par with real life.

 

[InternetKillTV]

Wow good spot! Interested to see where that one goes.

[nortex010]

I don't quite know how relevant this is but....

 

 

This is one of the screens from GTA V:

 

And this is one of the standard Mac OS X wallpapers, called "Lake":

 

 

Anyone else see a resemblance?

[Fido_le_muet]

Looks like it

 

[kesta195]

Wow, QUALITY find Always wondered what that weird thing was.

[KidAmnesiac42]

I think these are definitely the same mountains:

 

 

If this is correct (and it looks likely), then the Alamo Sea runs east-west, as has been depicted in most maps, yet has a river mouth at the northern bank. Most maps so far have shown two mouths at the western end of the sea.

 

However, there is serious distortion of the field of view in the chopper screenshot. It shows the Sea as being rather narrow. Take note of the large mountains on the other side of the sea in the shot. Where are they in the daylight screen (with the bridge)?

I am beginning to think there will be suburbs in the game... Behind Vinewood Hill and to the east of it, there will be Rockstar's own version of the San Fernando Valley...

[kesta195]

I am beginning to think there will be suburbs in the game... Behind Vinewood Hill and to the east of it, there will be Rockstar's own version of the San Fernando Valley...

You mean behind and west? This picture is proof that there are no suburbs east/north east of the sign, just the prison and desert. I agree though an SF valley is still in the cards as there is a large empty space behind the mountains on the northern border of LS.

[JH890]

Don't know if this has been already here.. Too many pages to check and so new in here, but I think there's railway (marked yellow line) in this pic. Not been noted at any map yet.

 

Edit/

 

I don't think its normal road. Closer look bridge looks to be railroad bridge

 

And here under arrows

 

 

Edited April 21, 2013 by JH890

[RoadRunner71]

 

Don't know if this has been already here.. Too many pages to check and so new in here, but I think there's railway (marked yellow line) in this pic.  Not been noted at any map yet.

Might be... It could it be the other side of the railway tunnel shown in the trailer and screenshots.

 

Btw, awesome thread, people here definitely has a good eye

[Red XIII]

 

Don't know if this has been already here.. Too many pages to check and so new in here, but I think there's railway (marked yellow line) in this pic.  Not been noted at any map yet.

Might be... It could it be the other side of the railway tunnel shown in the trailer and screenshots.

 

Btw, awesome thread, people here definitely has a good eye

I think this is a birds eye shot of that picture. I think its just a normal road but it may be a railroad.

 

*zancudo river

Edited April 21, 2013 by Red XIII

[B-Easy]

Amazing job guys !!! I can't wait to see the real map to find out if there are similarities

[initium]

That's a railroad, confirmed ages ago

[JH890]

 

I think this is a birds eye shot of that picture. I think its just a normal road but it may be a railroad.

Arrows showing possible railroad curving to the right. No 1 red circle maybe tunnel? No 2 red circle beginning of bridge? White concrete bottom below gray railroad.

 

 

..thats all for fudging railroads.

[UrbanTheEmcee]

When the real map gets released this topic is going to crash the site.

[Choco Taco]

I took gtamodeller's model and sized it so that the runway from IV fits in his airport. That matches well with my estimate.

 

 

 

[Jamie Smith]

Is Yosemite National Forest & Angeles National Forest in V or have we yet to see it?.

(i know you don't have the game but do ya'll have any idea?)

 

would be nice to drive on winding roads or drive so far into the forest you cant see anywhere but trees.

 

Edited April 21, 2013 by Jamie Smith

[zakace]

Is Yosemite National Forest & Angeles National Forest in V or have we yet to see it?.

(i know you don't have the game but do ya'll have any idea?)

 

 

would be nice to drive on winding roads or drive so far into the forest you can see anywhere but trees.

That looks like a fantastic place for the game, getting a car or bike and driving straight off one of those cliffs

[Jamie Smith]

Is Yosemite National Forest & Angeles National Forest in V or have we yet to see it?.

(i know you don't have the game but do ya'll have any idea?)

 

 

would be nice to drive on winding roads or drive so far into the forest you can see anywhere but trees.

That looks like a fantastic place for the game, getting a car or bike and driving straight off one of those cliffs

Yea i really hope thats what we can expect from Grapeseed and possible areas north of grapeseed.