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GTA V Police Cars & Emergency Vehicles


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I mean, it's not really the detail of the vehicle people want to change because that's already set in motion and their not going to change that. But the choice of having additional police cars (Marked, Unmark, Slicktop, ETC) and having better police lights would be better. Cause they have been making these same damn police cars for years. I think they need a change and the police lights are just $hit.

Problem with new cars is a. the fact police departments use the same cars year in year out and b. making a new car and getting it fully in game costs time and money.

 

You don't see people whining on a CSI board about them wearing the same lab coats or using the same tech since the show started and demanding new stuff, do you? IMO the police stuff is fine, it is not a huge priority for R*.

 

Let's suppose a huge gamebreaking bug is found on launch (a la Skyrim) and R* has to pick between a critical fix or police stuff, would they ignore a huge bug to put in minor details?

Well you have to realize that we're not talking about real life. It's a game. We don't use lab coats, and they barely ever get changed. In the real world Los Angeles, and major cities, the police cars are a big thing, changing constantly for improvements. We all want better details, and it's been four years since R* released IV, and eight years since they released San Andreas, the same setting and police department of V. It all comes in to play. The police are a huge detail in a crime game such as Grand Theft Auto. The police can't be ignored, and that's why this topic was made. To protest the want of R* to keep their old police cars in. And to all of the British people here, please understand that American police and emergency service vehicles are 10x better than ones in the UK. It's not necessary to post pictures of them on here, an American gaming topic.

You miss my point.

 

I said the fans of (for instance) CSI don't whine about them not introducing new tech all the time, or for having the same color lab coats since that show started, or for Law and Order constantly using Crown Vics, or for any crime TV show using pretty much the same cars.

 

That is my point. Name me one PD that 'constantly' changes their cars? I know of Seattle, Boise, Idaho Falls and the last two don't change their fleet as often as everybody thinks at all, they have stuck with the main patrol cars for 20/30 years. I can't see R adding in any of the stuff you mentioned though, they had the range of PD in IV with the patrols, the NOOSE gear and the FIB car, I'd expect a similar setup in V, if R* don't want to change it, they won't, and as seen by emails, they can't exactly take suggestions.

 

As for your ZOMG USA IS TEH BEST comments, nice insular xenophobia there, the USA isn't the only country that has a hand in the game (Scotland with R* North has a massive, massive hand n it), I guess R* should take out all the non-US cars to please you? So no Sentinel or Landstalker or bikes or Turismo? They after all aren't Amurkin and you said the US has 10x better vehicles, but R* disagrees, they will put in what THEY want to, if that means Euro-looking police cars or Euro-looking cars or planes or what the hell else, they will. It is THEIR product. Not yours, also you aren't a mod.

 

@Slick: They have already said in emails they CANNOT take suggestions from the general public for legal reasons, so emailing them is pointless, it won't make them go back and look at something they've already done, to them the police is fine as is.

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FFS is it really too much to ask for more than 2 types of city police department car variants?

 

*Yeah there was NoosE, FIB, and all of that good stuff; but I'm talking more than just 2 types of patrol cars for the city's PD. There was a Vapid and a Merit police car for the LCPD and that just got unrealistically old.

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i hope they put the fat police back cuz they was funny to watch them follow u and then get tired

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I mean, it's not really the detail of the vehicle people want to change because that's already set in motion and their not going to change that. But the choice of having additional police cars (Marked, Unmark, Slicktop, ETC) and having better police lights would be better. Cause they have been making these same damn police cars for years. I think they need a change and the police lights are just $hit.

Problem with new cars is a. the fact police departments use the same cars year in year out and b. making a new car and getting it fully in game costs time and money.

 

You don't see people whining on a CSI board about them wearing the same lab coats or using the same tech since the show started and demanding new stuff, do you? IMO the police stuff is fine, it is not a huge priority for R*.

 

Let's suppose a huge gamebreaking bug is found on launch (a la Skyrim) and R* has to pick between a critical fix or police stuff, would they ignore a huge bug to put in minor details?

Well you have to realize that we're not talking about real life. It's a game. We don't use lab coats, and they barely ever get changed. In the real world Los Angeles, and major cities, the police cars are a big thing, changing constantly for improvements. We all want better details, and it's been four years since R* released IV, and eight years since they released San Andreas, the same setting and police department of V. It all comes in to play. The police are a huge detail in a crime game such as Grand Theft Auto. The police can't be ignored, and that's why this topic was made. To protest the want of R* to keep their old police cars in. And to all of the British people here, please understand that American police and emergency service vehicles are 10x better than ones in the UK. It's not necessary to post pictures of them on here, an American gaming topic.

 

As for your ZOMG USA IS TEH BEST comments, nice insular xenophobia there, the USA isn't the only country that has a hand in the game (Scotland with R* North has a massive, massive hand n it), I guess R* should take out all the non-US cars to please you? So no Sentinel or Landstalker or bikes or Turismo? They after all aren't Amurkin and you said the US has 10x better vehicles, but R* disagrees, they will put in what THEY want to, if that means Euro-looking police cars or Euro-looking cars or planes or what the hell else, they will. It is THEIR product. Not yours, also you aren't a mod.

 

I don't really mind European cars such as BMW, Volkswagen, Ferrari, etc being civilian traffic in the game. However, if they're being used by police force, then WTF? The game is taking place in a re-imagined, Southern California, therefore, our police cars must strictly be from that region. In real-life, the LAPD uses black and white Ford Crown Vics, not checkered Lancers (I won't go in with the SDPD nor the Mexican Federal Police since their patrol areas are not confirmed). And no, we are not saying American police cars are better than European police cars. Personally, I prefer North American police cars simply because they have a simple design, but that's not why I'm arguing. I'm arguing because the LAPD uses black-and-white Ford Crown Victorias, not checkered cars. Those cars simply need to be in the game because it keeps the authenticity of the game. If the LAPD decided to go with the Euro-style police cars in real-life, sure, include Euro-style police cars in the game as long as they are based on the PD in question! If this were GTA: London, we would be getting furious over American police cars getting posted.

 

As for the PD constantly changing their cars, yes, many PDs will likely use the same model with a slightly different paintjob. However, the models of the Crown Victoria R* is using are based on out-dated old models from 1992-1997! No Police Department uses this model any more (at least not Los Angeles or New York and a couple of other PDs in major American cities)! We simply ask for Ford Crown Vics from 2003-2011 to be used! Is that so hard? Saints Row 2 had a much more recent model of the Crown Vic on their Police Cars than GTA IV! And that's freaking Saints Row 2, which is meant to be corny! Sure, it may not have been the most detailed Crown Vic of all time (in fact the GTA IV Crown Vic looked much better, at least in details, not the model), but it was a much more recent model than the old hunk of junk R* still uses. If R* insists on using these old 90s models, they may as well use the old Chevy Caprice and Dodge Diplomat cars. I do have hope that the LSPD old Crown Vic is simply a makeshift model, just re-textured and will be updated, but won't give much.

 

Also, one major gripe we have about police cars is lighting! It's out of date. I can understand the early games lacking modern lighting. GTA III was just the first 3D game, and Vice City and San Andreas took place in the 80s and 90s respectively, when old lighting which IV uses was still in issue, but the fact that IV, a game that took place in 2008 (it actually, to a certain extent, took place in a near future setting. IV was released in April 2008 yet took place in Fall 2008), still used that 80s-90s lighting! Sure, there were a few improvements, such as the FIB Buffalo having lighting on the grill like some Police cars do have, but it wasn't much. Sure, V shows some improvement, but we still need much better LED lighting and wig wag lights! Is that too hard to ask for?

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I mean, it's not really the detail of the vehicle people want to change because that's already set in motion and their not going to change that. But the choice of having additional police cars (Marked, Unmark, Slicktop, ETC) and having better police lights would be better. Cause they have been making these same damn police cars for years. I think they need a change and the police lights are just $hit.

Problem with new cars is a. the fact police departments use the same cars year in year out and b. making a new car and getting it fully in game costs time and money.

 

You don't see people whining on a CSI board about them wearing the same lab coats or using the same tech since the show started and demanding new stuff, do you? IMO the police stuff is fine, it is not a huge priority for R*.

 

Let's suppose a huge gamebreaking bug is found on launch (a la Skyrim) and R* has to pick between a critical fix or police stuff, would they ignore a huge bug to put in minor details?

Well you have to realize that we're not talking about real life. It's a game. We don't use lab coats, and they barely ever get changed. In the real world Los Angeles, and major cities, the police cars are a big thing, changing constantly for improvements. We all want better details, and it's been four years since R* released IV, and eight years since they released San Andreas, the same setting and police department of V. It all comes in to play. The police are a huge detail in a crime game such as Grand Theft Auto. The police can't be ignored, and that's why this topic was made. To protest the want of R* to keep their old police cars in. And to all of the British people here, please understand that American police and emergency service vehicles are 10x better than ones in the UK. It's not necessary to post pictures of them on here, an American gaming topic.

I absolutely agree with you about the UK police cars being sh*t.

 

Astras (sh*tty little hatchbacks) as main patrol cars? FAIL.

 

I think that the police cars should be based on real LAPD cars, including the Crown Vic (Police Cruiser), Impala (???), Charger (Police Buffalo) and Caprice PPV (modified Police Patrol/Merit).

 

Here in Australia, the police cars do get changed pretty much every time a new version of (Holden Commodore/Ford Falcon) comes out, within about 1 or 2 years.

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As for the PD constantly changing their cars, yes, many PDs will likely use the same model with a slightly different paintjob. However, the models of the Crown Victoria R* is using are based on out-dated old models from 1992-1997! No Police Department uses this model any more (at least not Los Angeles or New York and a couple of other PDs in major American cities)! We simply ask for Ford Crown Vics from 2003-2011 to be used! Is that so hard? Saints Row 2 had a much more recent model of the Crown Vic on their Police Cars than GTA IV! And that's freaking Saints Row 2, which is meant to be corny! Sure, it may not have been the most detailed Crown Vic of all time (in fact the GTA IV Crown Vic looked much better, at least in details, not the model), but it was a much more recent model than the old hunk of junk R* still uses. If R* insists on using these old 90s models, they may as well use the old Chevy Caprice and Dodge Diplomat cars. I do have hope that the LSPD old Crown Vic is simply a makeshift model, just re-textured and will be updated, but won't give much.

 

Also, one major gripe we have about police cars is lighting! It's out of date. I can understand the early games lacking modern lighting. GTA III was just the first 3D game, and Vice City and San Andreas took place in the 80s and 90s respectively, when old lighting which IV uses was still in issue, but the fact that IV, a game that took place in 2008 (it actually, to a certain extent, took place in a near future setting. IV was released in April 2008 yet took place in Fall 2008), still used that 80s-90s lighting! Sure, there were a few improvements, such as the FIB Buffalo having lighting on the grill like some Police cars do have, but it wasn't much. Sure, V shows some improvement, but we still need much better LED lighting and wig wag lights! Is that too hard to ask for?

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I don't really mind European cars such as BMW, Volkswagen, Ferrari, etc being civilian traffic in the game. However, if they're being used by police force, then WTF? The game is taking place in a re-imagined, Southern California, therefore, our police cars must strictly be from that region. In real-life, the LAPD uses black and white Ford Crown Vics, not checkered Lancers (I won't go in with the SDPD nor the Mexican Federal Police since their patrol areas are not confirmed). And no, we are not saying American police cars are better than European police cars. Personally, I prefer North American police cars simply because they have a simple design, but that's not why I'm arguing. I'm arguing because the LAPD uses black-and-white Ford Crown Victorias, not checkered cars. Those cars simply need to be in the game because it keeps the authenticity of the game. If the LAPD decided to go with the Euro-style police cars in real-life, sure, include Euro-style police cars in the game as long as they are based on the PD in question! If this were GTA: London, we would be getting furious over American police cars getting posted.

 

As for the PD constantly changing their cars, yes, many PDs will likely use the same model with a slightly different paintjob. However, the models of the Crown Victoria R* is using are based on out-dated old models from 1992-1997! No Police Department uses this model any more (at least not Los Angeles or New York and a couple of other PDs in major American cities)! We simply ask for Ford Crown Vics from 2003-2011 to be used! Is that so hard? Saints Row 2 had a much more recent model of the Crown Vic on their Police Cars than GTA IV! And that's freaking Saints Row 2, which is meant to be corny! Sure, it may not have been the most detailed Crown Vic of all time (in fact the GTA IV Crown Vic looked much better, at least in details, not the model), but it was a much more recent model than the old hunk of junk R* still uses. If R* insists on using these old 90s models, they may as well use the old Chevy Caprice and Dodge Diplomat cars. I do have hope that the LSPD old Crown Vic is simply a makeshift model, just re-textured and will be updated, but won't give much.

 

Also, one major gripe we have about police cars is lighting! It's out of date. I can understand the early games lacking modern lighting. GTA III was just the first 3D game, and Vice City and San Andreas took place in the 80s and 90s respectively, when old lighting which IV uses was still in issue, but the fact that IV, a game that took place in 2008 (it actually, to a certain extent, took place in a near future setting. IV was released in April 2008 yet took place in Fall 2008), still used that 80s-90s lighting! Sure, there were a few improvements, such as the FIB Buffalo having lighting on the grill like some Police cars do have, but it wasn't much. Sure, V shows some improvement, but we still need much better LED lighting and wig wag lights! Is that too hard to ask for?

icon14.gif Thank you.

 

 

We should just email your rant to R*. lol.gif

 

 

How many people have actually emailed Rockstar about this?

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I think for the city, the police cars should be like they are in LA...similar.

What i am more interested in, are the police cars and maybe sheriff's cars out of the city. I imagine older Dodge Monaco's as Sheriff's cars and some 4x4s like old Jeep Cherokee's or Chevy Blazers.

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I think for the city, the police cars should be like they are in LA...similar.

What i am more interested in, are the police cars and maybe sheriff's cars out of the city. I imagine older Dodge Monaco's as Sheriff's cars and some 4x4s like old Jeep Cherokee's or Chevy Blazers.

That all depends. RockStar may not add the sheriff's department, but then again they may because it was in SA. If they do, it should just be similar to the real LA County Sheriff's office.

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I think for the city, the police cars should be like they are in LA...similar.

What i am more interested in, are the police cars and maybe sheriff's cars out of the city. I imagine older Dodge Monaco's as Sheriff's cars and some 4x4s like old Jeep Cherokee's or Chevy Blazers.

Believe it or not, most Sheriff offices have fairly recent cars. It's not like the movies where they're driving 70's and 80's cars.

 

Although Jeep Cherokee's would be plausible.

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Yeah, i figured that. Didn't have any referance to say what kind of cars they have now. I don't want this game to become SA, because i want something new and different. But i would like if they had such cars.

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I think for the city, the police cars should be like they are in LA...similar.

What i am more interested in, are the police cars and maybe sheriff's cars out of the city. I imagine older Dodge Monaco's as Sheriff's cars and some 4x4s like old Jeep Cherokee's or Chevy Blazers.

That all depends. RockStar may not add the sheriff's department, but then again they may because it was in SA. If they do, it should just be similar to the real LA County Sheriff's office.

@Spike88: I've emailed R* about the old Crown Vics, but I haven't gotten a response. I might try e-mailing them again.

 

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@SWAT Van post: Completely agreed. You have to understand though to capture the feel of each time, they had to use those old Freightliner models. However, since GTA IV featured a much more recent SWAT/NOOSE Van, I'm confident we'll see what you (and the rest of the community) want.

 

@Post I'm quoting: LA Sheriff Department uses the Ford Crown Vic. I think though that all rural towns instead get patrolled by the SAHP (San Andreas Highway Patrol), since it would be hectic to create a police car for each department, not to mention the CHP (what the SAHP is based on) patrols statewide.

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Imagine watching an action movie where these guys escape from jail. Imagine a scene where these guys are being chased by the police. Now imagine a boxy, old, unmodern police car with sh*tty old lights chassing them. It kinda ruins the movie. The same thing happens with a crime game like GTA. Rockstar says they strive for the game to be as realistic as possible, yet they don't put a large enough effort into what makes the game a CRIME game; The police. If they put in a proper effort to make the police cars look as realistic as possible compaired to the real police fleet of the LAPD, and have a lighting system that has strobes, wig-wags, grill lights deck lights ect., alot of people on here would be really happy and alot more people would notice the chang, for the better, making the game more realistic- Rockstar's goal!

 

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Imagine watching an action movie where these guys escape from jail. Imagine a scene where these guys are being chased by the police. Now imagine a boxy, old, unmodern police car with sh*tty old lights chassing them. It kinda ruins the movie. The same thing happens with a crime game like GTA. Rockstar says they strive for the game to be as realistic as possible, yet they don't put a large enough effort into what makes the game a CRIME game; The police. If they put in a proper effort to make the police cars look as realistic as possible compaired to the real police fleet of the LAPD, and have a lighting system that has strobes, wig-wags, grill lights deck lights ect., alot of people on here would be really happy and alot more people would notice the chang, for the better, making the game more realistic- Rockstar's goal!

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^^^What he said, the little things count.

 

Keep this discussion going folks, but can we please avoid the arguing over British police vehicles and why this topic is so popular. We are all on the same side here, we all want improvements made to the police vehicles in GTA V - let's keep it at that.

 

What are people's thoughts on the unit number on the roof of the cars? You can see a number 42 on the roof of a car pretty clearly in the trailer. Do the LAPD use two digit unit numbers on their cars?

 

Looks like Rockstar took a leaf out of Saints Row's book, deciding to add the roof numbers. It worked pretty well I thought, they were spread out quite evenly, and almost never saw two of the same vehicle units together.

 

Cheers!

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What are people's thoughts on the unit number on the roof of the cars? You can see a number 42 on the roof of a car pretty clearly in the trailer. Do the LAPD use two digit unit numbers on their cars?

 

Looks like Rockstar took a leaf out of Saints Row's book, deciding to add the roof numbers. It worked pretty well I thought, they were spread out quite evenly, and almost never saw two of the same vehicle units together.

 

Cheers!

If R* dose use the unit numbers on the top of police cars (and other emergency vehicles), They should deffinately be different. If they had 20 cars, all with the number 42 on it, it would make it look so unrealistic and ruin it for me. It bothered me in GTA IV with the 69 Firetruck.

 

The numbers could also help the RPers

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I'd just love for some more modern day cars as a sort of least expected. It's meant to be a modern day representation of southern California. How is using 1980's styled awful looking police cars a good representation. And normal looking helicopters, bell rangers etc not the crappy looking GTA IV ones which are awful.

 

My wishlist for police would be.

 

City Police (LAPD)

 

- 2003/8 CVPI

- Dodge Charger

- Slicktop

- Unmarked (CVPI/Impala)

- Patrol Bike

- SWAT Bearcat

- Maybe beach patrol as well but im not bothered.

 

Sheriffs (LASD)

(Same model different skins)

 

- CVPI

- Dodge Charger

- Slicktop

- Maybe SEB as well

- Prison Bus

 

Highway Patrol (CHP)

 

- CVPI (Different lightbar)

- Slicktop

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I'd just love for some more modern day cars as a sort of least expected. It's meant to be a modern day representation of southern California. How is using 1980's styled awful looking police cars a good representation. And normal looking helicopters, bell rangers etc not the crappy looking GTA IV ones which are awful.

 

My wishlist for police would be.

 

City Police (LAPD)

 

- 2003/8 CVPI

- Dodge Charger

- Slicktop

- Unmarked (CVPI/Impala)

- Patrol Bike

- SWAT Bearcat

- Maybe beach patrol as well but im not bothered.

 

Sheriffs (LASD)

(Same model different skins)

 

- CVPI

- Dodge Charger

- Slicktop

- Maybe SEB as well

- Prison Bus

 

Highway Patrol (CHP)

 

- CVPI (Different lightbar)

- Slicktop

The LAPD should use the 2006-2012 car. Chances are most 2006 and before cars in the LAPD are spare cars.

 

 

As for the CHIP, they have the same light bar. The old V bar is out-dated so most Law Enforcement agencies use the new one. Although you occasionally see the V on spare cars.

 

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If Modders can give us proper lights, why can't R*?

 

 

I don't want the ability to turn on/off the lights like he can(well I do, but it's not possible on consoles), but I do want the wig wags, flashing head lights, LED in the back window etc.

 

 

 

It would be nice if we got better siren sounds too.

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What are people's thoughts on the unit number on the roof of the cars? You can see a number 42 on the roof of a car pretty clearly in the trailer. Do the LAPD use two digit unit numbers on their cars?

 

Looks like Rockstar took a leaf out of Saints Row's book, deciding to add the roof numbers. It worked pretty well I thought, they were spread out quite evenly, and almost never saw two of the same vehicle units together.

 

Cheers!

If R* dose use the unit numbers on the top of police cars (and other emergency vehicles), They should deffinately be different. If they had 20 cars, all with the number 42 on it, it would make it look so unrealistic and ruin it for me. It bothered me in GTA IV with the 69 Firetruck.

 

The numbers could also help the RPers

For the unit numbers, it's a great idea, and fits in with how SR3 did it, except for the fire truck. They were all engine 231 or something like that. I like that last wishlist too. Now, the whole theory of the LAPD and there cars is different than any other department. I know most of this from Adam 12. Here it goes: The LAPD unit numbers contain three different parts. One- District Number, Two- Unit Type, Three- Unit Number. Basically, on Adam 12, it went ONE ADAM 12. One being your district number (1 is LAPD's Central Division) two, which is Adam, a from the phonetic alphabet and adam meaning a two man unit (Could also be Mary meaning motorcycle, Lincoln, one man unit, william, which is detectives, david which is SWAT, Edward which is traffic unit, Charlie which is bicycle unit, tom which is traffic investigator, G: Gang enforcement unit

J: Juvenile Investigator

N: Narcotics

R: Metro Unit

W: Detective

U: Report-taking Unit (nicknamed "U-boats")

V: Vice

 

Q: Special detail (Not to be assigned radio calls. Works on a specific crime mission)

X: extra patrol

Z: Special detail (Not to be assigned radio calls. Works on a specific crime mission)

 

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Los Angeles Police Department resources

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1 Police stations

2 Mobility

2.1 Sedans

2.2 Motorcycles

2.3 Air Support Division

2.4 Bicycles

2.5 Horses

3 Radio

3.1 Digital frequencies

3.2 Radio cars

3.3 Radio equipment

4 Ranks of the LAPD

5 References

Resources of the Los Angeles Police Department.

[edit]Police stations

 

The Department's deployment of officers has reflected the growth and changes of the City of Los Angeles since the late 19th century. The earliest police station (or "division" as the early ones were known - this term was originally meant to mean the Patrol Division but over time this term became commingled and substituted for what today we would refer to as the actual brick and mortar police building the divisions were housed within) was Central Division, located in what today would be known as downtown Los Angeles on the southeast corner of 1st and Hill Streets. This station opened in 1896 and as the Department's first dedicated police station (another had been located at 2nd/ Spring Streets, but was possibly a leased or rented storefront type of set-up). The Central Jail was located directly south of it. "Old Central" as it came to be known, housed not only Central Division but also many of the Department's headquarters units until its closure in about 1955 in favor of Parker Center. The following is a listing of other Los Angeles Police Stations through the years, along with their original division numbers:

01 Central Police Station.

02 Lincoln Heights Police Station. This station was closed by the 1940s and its number deactivated. The number was reactivated in 1966 for Rampart Police Station.

03 University Police Station. Name changed to Southwest Police Station.

04 Boyle Heights Police Station. Name changed to Hollenbeck Police Station.

05 San Pedro Police Station. Combined in 1962 with Wilmington Substation and renamed Harbor Division.

06 Hollywood Police Station.

07 Wilshire Police Station.

08 Sawtelle Police Station. Renamed West Los Angeles Police Station.

09 Valley Police Station. Renamed Van Nuys Police Station.

10 Wilmington Substation. This station was deactivated and its number later reassigned to West Valley Police Station.

11 Eagle Rock Division. This station's name was changed when moved to Highland Park (approximately 1920's) and then again to today's Northeast Police Station.

12 77th Street Police Station.

13 Newton Street Police Station.

14 Venice Police Station. Renamed Pacific Police Station.

15 Georgia Street Police Station. This station was deactivated and its number was later reassigned to North Hollywood Police Station.

16 Foothill Police Station.

17 Devonshire Police Station.

18 Southeast Police Station.

19 Mission Police Station.

20 Olympic Police Station

21 Topanga Police Station

The city's largest growth period was from approximately the late 19th century through the 1930s when the city grew at a geometric rate. Approximately 100 smaller portions were added to the original five square mile Pueblo. Of these, about 90 were formerly unincorporated county lands. The remaining ten portions had been their own incorporated cities. These included the cities of: Watts, Venice (originally Ocean Park), Hollywood, San Pedro, Wilmington, Barnes, Hyde Park, Eagle Rock, Sawtelle and Tujunga. Generally when the city consolidated another existing city, its police officers became LAPD officers with corresponding ranks and titles at the LAPD, per the city charter. LAPD would create a new Division, named after the city that had been consolidated and would continue using the prior city's police station, usually replacing these facilities with larger police stations within a few years.

[edit]Mobility

 

To patrol the 498 square miles (1,290 km2) of the city of Los Angeles, the police department utilizes a number of different types of vehicles:

[edit]Sedans

 

 

SUV of the LAPD.

 

 

Truck of the SWAT.

With few 9C1 Chevrolet Caprice vehicles remaining in the motor pool (as the final model year of the Chevrolet Caprice was 1996), the Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor is one of two sedans for patrol in the department fleet, the other being the newly approved 2008 Dodge Charger LX Police Special. Only the sedan is permitted to engage in a vehicle pursuit, pursuant to department policy. Like most police agencies throughout southern California, Los Angeles Police Department vehicles are ordered painted in black clearcoat with the roof, doors, and pillars painted white from the factory. The Department has used this black-and-white paint scheme since approximately 1940 with minimal modifications. Options available from Ford ordered by the Department today include the handle-bar spotlamps, 16-inch heavy duty steel wheels with chrome center caps, and ballistic panels within the two front doors.

Installed equipment includes the lightbar, front-grill siren and control box from Federal Signal Corporation, the digital two-way radio by Motorola, a notebook PC to function as the Mobile data terminal, and a partition to separate the prisoner rear seating from the driver and front passenger seats. Most cars also have a shotgun mount between the front seats in front of the partition.

Most police vehicles bear at least two rear bumper stickers: one reading "There's NO Excuse - For Domestic Violence" and another for "Watch The Road - Operation Traffix". On the rear side panel is a black and white sticker that reads "EMERGENCY DIAL 9-1-1 Fire Police Medical." The front doors bear the seal of the city of Los Angeles, the department slogan "to protect and to serve" as well as the citywide five-digit "shop number" and city department name (POLICE). The last three numbers of the shop number (used to identify all vehicles operated by the city) are reprinted on the roof to help air units visually identify cars. On the trunk is a number that identifies which division the unit belongs to (e.g., a 25 would be "South Traffic Division" or a 3 would be "Southwest Area").

These cars appeared on the NBC television drama Adam-12:

1967, 1968 and 1969 Plymouth Belvedere

1971 Plymouth Satellite

1972 AMC Matador

[edit]Motorcycles

 

 

LAPD motorcycles.

Kawasaki Police Motorcycles have represented the majority of the motorcycle vehicles in the motor pool with some Harley-Davidson motorcycles and increasingly, BMW motorcycles. Motorcycles are also painted black and white. These motorcycles carry a radio, code-3 equipment, a shotgun and documentation used by a police officer. During rain, motors are garaged, and traffic units patrol the city in sedans.

[edit]Air Support Division

 

 

An LAPD Bell 206 helicopter

The LAPD maintains the second largest non-military airforce in the world. It maintains 21 helicopters and 1 fixed wing aircraft [1]. The helicopters are painted silver and blue. The LAPD Air Support Division is slowly trading in their older Eurocopters for newer Eurocopter models. The new models however are entering service with the more traditional black and white paint schemes we are used to seeing on most police department patrol cars. The letters LAPD appear on the top side of the aircraft in blue, capital letters. [2] Typical air units include 14 Eurocopter AS-350B2 AStars, 4 Bell 206B-IIIs and 1 Bell UH-1 (no longer in service, due to maintenance issues). The aircraft come with a wide variety of electronics and equipment that include a 30 million candlepower "Nightsun" spotlight, optical FLIR cameras and electronically stabilized binoculars, a LoJack signal receiver, police radios in addition to the built-in aviation radios.

Two officers with at least three years of patrol car service fly in each air unit; they are armed and able to land and make arrests in areas not accessible by other means. They depart from the Hooper Heliport in downtown Los Angeles, and the Van Nuys airport.

Air units are considered crucial to officer safety, providing valuable information with regards to barricaded suspects, suspects fleeing on foot or in a vehicle, violent incidents involving large numbers of individuals, and then some. Air units are automatically requested when initiating a traffic stop on a "code 37" vehicle, or suspect with known wants or warrants that are a felony in order to limit the potential for a vehicle pursuit.

Air units do not fly during poor weather (particularly dense fog) due to aviation safety.

[edit]Bicycles

Occasionally, "cycle" units go on patrol (usually in large numbers), especially during special events to provide fast and easy access to police assistance. Bicycle units may go on patrols lasting between 10–25 miles during any given beat. Bicycle units train rigorously (mainly in the hills of Elysian Park near Academy Road and Dodgers Stadium). The bicycles used by the Los Angeles Police Department are manufactured by Giant.

[edit]Horses

Metro Division, known for its famous Special Weapons and Tactics (SWAT) unit, also has an Equestrian Unit that consists of approximately 35 police horses. Normally deployed during special events, specially trained officers also wear jeans as the pants to their uniform along with boots and a Stetson hat with the same Police shield as the one worn on the brim of the traditional police cap. Equestrian units normally appear in the city only during special occasions. Metro Division is also responsible for the K-9 units (also under Metro Division), making Metro Division responsible for not only police horses, but also for police dogs (which also wear ballistic vests) as well. Narcotics and Bomb K-9 units belong to different divisions.

[edit]Radio

 

Inspired by a contest in 1924, Police Chief R. Lee Heath ordered his staff to investigate the use of radio to "more quickly dispatch officers to where they are needed." It was not until Police Chief Roy E. Steckel, however, that the department would be assigned its first Federal Communications Commission (FCC) license. On May 1, 1931, KGPL began broadcasting at 1712 kHz, just above the commercial radio broadcasting frequencies. Later, this was changed to 1730 kHz. Any citizen could monitor outgoing police radio traffic on their home sets. The system was "one way" until the mid-1930s when mobile transmitters were installed in patrol units.

Today, telephone calls into the department for police service are handled by the Communications Division. First, an Emergency Board Operator (EBO) answers calls placed to 9-1-1 (with a lower number of operators assigned to the non-emergency 1-877-ASK-LAPD). A call for service results in an incident number, which resets to the number 1—citywide—at midnight each night. Upon receiving the incident, the Radio Telephone Operator (RTO) will go on the air to broadcast to the division (with the option to simulcast on bureau-wide or citywide frequencies). Today, RTOs provide the following information in what is known as a crime broadcast:

to whom this message is intended (a particular unit, a certain division's units, or, "all units"),

the type of crime that just occurred (usually by California penal code but sometimes an abbreviation, established by the Communications Division),

how long ago the crime occurred,

where,

a quantity of suspects (if more than one),

a description of the suspect(s), their clothing and/or other uniquely-identifiable attributes, if available, with what they might be armed.

Additional details may include information about the "PR" (person reporting) or simply instructions to "monitor comments for further" (a direction to responding officers to read the about the incident on their in-car Mobile Data Terminals).

The broadcast always concludes with a code (such as Code 3 or Code 2 for immediate response but without siren with red and blue lights), the incident number and the "RD" or reporting district (a numbered area within the division).

There may also be a request by the RTO for the responding unit handling to identify.

A fictitious example of a radio call might begin with tones (to alert patrol units that a broadcast will follow), "Any central unit, a 211 just occurred at 714 south Broadway Street at the Footlocker. Suspect was a male black, six-foot seven, approximately 280 pounds; shaved head, black eyes, goatee, white t-shirt, dark baggy pants. Weapon used was a revolver. Monitor comments for additional. Code 2. Incident number 555 in RD 193."

"Control" (the radio name for Communications division) as well as units in the area also use a wide variety of codes, common ones include:

Code 1: answer your radio

Code 2: respond immediately to location, no lights or siren, obey all traffic laws

Code 3: respond immediately with lights and siren to location, exemption from traffic laws permitted with lights and siren

Code 4: no further units need respond, return to patrol

Code 4-Adam: no further units need respond, suspect not in custody, units en route to the scene position or patrol in strategic areas near the scene

Code 5: Stakeout, marked police cars must avoid location

Code 6: unit has arrived to location, officers investigating

Code 6-Adam: unit has arrived, may need further assistance from nearby units

Code 6-Charles: Dangerous suspect (usually felony want or warrant reported); one-officer units stand-by for assistance

Code 7: meal break request, accompanied by location of unit (not granted when their bureau or the city goes on "tac" or tactical alert, which allows the department to draw any available unit from any division if necessary)[No Longer Used After Late 2008]

Code 8: fire reported in area of high fire hazard or threat to firefighting personnel

Code 8-Adam: units requested to scene of fire for traffic and crowd control

Code 10: request to clear frequency for broadcast of want/warrant information

Code 12: False Alarm

Code 20: Notify Media or Often Used To Advise Others That media Is On Scene

Code 30: Burglar Alarm (can be Code 30-Silent)

Code 37: Vehicle is Reported Stolen (Code 6-Charles is given if vehicle license check produces dangerous suspect or felony want or warrant information)

Code 100: units in position to intercept fleeing suspect

Code Robert: Request for deployment of Urban Police Rifle (Code Robert-UPR) or shotgun slug ammunition (Code Robert-Slug) to location

Code Tom: Request for deployment of taser to location

NOTE: A unit that responds Code-3 must state their starting location (e.g. intersection or street address), after which the RTO broadcasts a Code 3 notification, announcing the unit number is responding Code-3 from that starting location to the location of the distress call.

Typical radio traffic (usually not simulcast citywide) includes the activity generated from traffic stops. A patrol unit may radio control that they are "code 6" on a traffic stop, to which control will give the "Roger" acknowledgement. Additional broadcasts will be requests for information on "cal IDs", or CalOps (the numbers that appear at the top of California Department of Motor Vehicle driver licenses) or on vehicle license plates. The result of which provides all of the expected details about the subject plus important details such as whether or not the licensee has any wants or warrants, FTAs (failure to appear in court) or FTPs (failure to pay a fine), etc. In the case of a vehicle, whether or not it is Code 37. Off the air and via MDT, officers can also see to whom the vehicle is registered.

In the event a Code 6 Charles is broadcast, the unit in question must verify their location, advise if they are Code 4 and the nature of the Code 4 (e.g. Suspect in custody, Common Name, Information Only or Wrong suspect.)

A noticeable characteristic of police broadcasts is the expedited nature of crime broadcasts; due to the number of broadcasts that need to be made at any given moment of the day, each transmission is necessarily as brief as possible. As a standard of police professionalism, RTOs are trained to use a tone that is strictly business-like.

[edit]Digital frequencies

After the parade in Los Angeles celebrating the Los Angeles Lakers 2001 NBA championship title, the police department switched from analog frequencies to digital frequencies. This ended a long-lasting era of the public having easy listening access to police broadcasts that started when the department had initially set up agreements with a local, commercial AM radio station to interrupt regularly scheduled programming for a crime broadcast. Officers were tuned to a specific radio station. However, as the amount of broadcasting needed increased, the department established its first transmission tower in Elysian Park and eventually began broadcasting over dozens of frequencies in the 400mHz and 500mHz ("T-band") ranges. These digital transmissions can be monitored on a proper Uniden Bearcat or Radio Shack digital scanner.

[edit]Radio cars

From the perspective of control, each unit is represented by an LAPD-specific callsign. Typically, a callsign is made up of three elements: the division number, the unit type and the "beat" number. For example, division 1 is Central Division (or, now, "Central Area"), an "A" is patrol unit with two officers and their beat number can be a number like 12. Such a unit would identify themselves as 1-A-12 (or 1-Adam-12, using the LAPD phonetic alphabet). There are several patrol types:

A: two officer patrol unit

D: Special Weapons & Tactics, (SWAT)

E: Ticket writing car

L: One Officer unit. ( "X" or "T" units shall use the letter "L" following the regular service letter when applicable.):traffic supervisor, TL units usually carry the rank of Sergeant)

M: motorcycle unit (MQ: motorcycle on special assignment, MQ: DUI enforcement)

C or "cycle": bicycle unit

CP: Command Post

FB: foot beat (foot patrol)

T: traffic investigator

TL: a traffic single officer car or field supervisor (a Sergeant in a Traffic Division)

SLO: Senior Lead Officer

G: Gang enforcement unit

J: Juvenile Investigator

N: Narcotics

R: Metro Unit

W: Detective

U: Report-taking Unit (nicknamed "U-boats")

V: Vice

OP: Observation Post (normally, a small bus operating as a mobile command unit for major incidents)

Q: Special detail (Not to be assigned radio calls. Works on a specific crime mission)

X: extra patrol

Z: Special detail (Not to be assigned radio calls. Works on a specific crime mission)

The immediate supervisor of any patrol officer is called a Field Supervisor, which typically have beats that end in zero beginning from 2 through 7 (for example, 7-L-60 for a Wilshire Area supervisor). The Watch Commander is a lieutenant or Sergeant-2 at the police station for its geographic division. Their radio code always ends in L-10 (e.g., the watch commander at division 6 or Hollywood Area station is always 6-L-10). The Watch Commander is responsible for the geographic area (e.g. "Southwest Area") and reports to the Area station Captain.

[edit]Radio equipment

Officers out of their cars are able to communicate over the air using portable Motorola radios nicknamed ROVERs ("Remote Out of Vehicle Emergency Radios"). These hand-held radios are currently Motorola XTS-5000 Models With Some Motorola Astro digital SABER models still being used by very few officers and some still inside older police vehicles. Originally, Motorola MX-series analog handheld units were used when the transition from VHF to UHF "T-band" dispatch/tactical frequencies was made in the early 1980s. Prior to that time, portable 2-way radios (known in LAPD jargon then as "CC units") were either VHF or UHF, mainly Motorola HT-3rd century and HT-220's, stocked in small quantities, and used mainly by specialized units such as Metropolitan division, SWAT (Special Weapons & Tactics), SIS (Special Investigations Section) and Narcotics divisions as stakeout tools. Another use was for footbeats "FB" units, mainly in Central division, in the late 1970s and early 1980s. ROVERs are normally utility belt-mounted. For convenience, smaller, corded, hand-held microphones can be plugged into these radios and then clipped to parts of the uniform shirt such as a front pocket or shoulder loop.

[edit]Ranks of the LAPD

 

The ranks of the LAPD are as follows:

Police Officer I, II, & III;

Police Officer I & II have no insignia of rank

Police Officer III has two silver chevrons

Police Officer III's, who are in advanced pay grades (including Police Office III+I/Senior Lead Officer) have two silver chevrons above a silver star.

Police Detective I, II & III;

Detective I has two silver chevrons above a silver lozenge; Detective II has three silver chevrons above a silver lozenge; Detective III has three silver chevrons above a silver arc, with a silver lozenge in between; the Detective III rank is equivalent to the rank of Sergeant and the next step is Lieutenant.

Police Sergeant I & II;

Sergeant I has three silver chevrons; Sergeant II has three silver chevrons above a silver arc.

Police Lieutenant I & II;

Lieutenant I & II both wear one silver bar.

Police Captain I, II, & III;

Captain I, II & III all wear two silver bars.

Police Commander;

Commander wears one silver star.

Police Deputy Chief I (Deputy Chief);

Deputy Chief wears two silver stars.

Police Deputy Chief II (Assistant Chief);

Assistant Chief wears three silver stars.

Chief of Police

Chief wears four silver stars.

 

Police Officer III

 

 

Senior Lead Officer

 

 

Detective I

 

 

Police Sergeant I

 

 

Detective II

 

 

Police Sergeant II

 

 

Detective III

 

 

Lieutenant

 

 

Captain

 

 

Commander

 

 

Deputy Chief Of Police

 

 

Assistant Chief Of Police

 

 

Chief Of Police

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^^^That's basically the Los Angeles Police Department in a nutshell for anyone asking about anything to do with the LAPD.

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You could've just given us the wikipedia link. tounge.gif

 

And double posting is frowned upon.

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You could've just given us the wikipedia link.  tounge.gif

Yeah... QFT.

 

 

Am I the only one that gets a warm, fuzzy feeling from the word "Vice?" tounge.gif

 

Eveytime I hear that word I start thinking of Ferrari Testarossas and white suits happy.gif

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Triple Vacuum Seal

 

 

Am I the only one that gets a warm, fuzzy feeling from the word "Vice?" tounge.gif

 

Eveytime I hear that word I start thinking of Ferrari Testarossas and white suits happy.gif

Same here. cool.gif

 

OT: I really hope this time around, R* includes severval different police patrolling agencies (sheriff's deputy, state trooper, each individual town with own car, university police, park rangers, highway patrol, etch.). It is rare in America to drive past 20 cop cars in the same day that are all only from the same agency (unless you're downtown or something).

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Am I the only one that gets a warm, fuzzy feeling from the word "Vice?"  tounge.gif

 

Eveytime I hear that word I start thinking of Ferrari Testarossas  and white suits  happy.gif

Same here. cool.gif

 

OT: I really hope this time around, R* includes severval different police patrolling agencies (sheriff's deputy, state trooper, each individual town with own car, university police, park rangers, highway patrol, etch.). It is rare in America to drive past 20 cop cars in the same day that are all only from the same agency (unless you're downtown or something).

RockStar did include different cars in SA for Los Santos, Las Venturas, and San Fierro, they just changed the lettering. I doubt that we'll see all three cities this time around, so therefore, I'd only focus on the CHP, LA County Sheriff, and of course LAPD.

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What saddens me is most likely.... we won't see multiple agencies other then LSPD and maybe a State Police. Just being that they seem kind of lazy on making patrol cars instead for highly detailed other vehicles and amazing city landscapes.

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Let's hope they have SUV's,Flat tops,ATV's,Helicopters,and Motorcycles for police vehicles.But I'd also like to see police vehicles representing different regions in the game. Like the Los Santos police,Mountain Police,Beach patrol,and other local patrols just to spruce it up.

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Death2Drugs

 

 

Am I the only one that gets a warm, fuzzy feeling from the word "Vice?"  tounge.gif

 

Eveytime I hear that word I start thinking of Ferrari Testarossas  and white suits  happy.gif

Same here. cool.gif

 

OT: I really hope this time around, R* includes severval different police patrolling agencies (sheriff's deputy, state trooper, each individual town with own car, university police, park rangers, highway patrol, etch.). It is rare in America to drive past 20 cop cars in the same day that are all only from the same agency (unless you're downtown or something).

I highly doubt every town in the game will get its own police car. Of course, Los Santos will likely get its own, detailed Police Department. However, for smaller, rural towns, I expect some sort of State Police to patrol those areas instead. The state police department of California would be the California Highway Patrol, so I expect to see the SAHP (San Andreas Highway Patrol). They will likely patrol the rural towns.

 

A more detailed solution would be creating county patrol cars. We've discussed the inclusion of the LSCSD (Los Santos County Sheriff Department), but since the game will take place more than just Los Santos, I can see the game being divided into "counties". I.e. directly east of Los Santos would be a large suburban area called "Amarillo County" (Orange County) or west of it would be "Fortuna County" (Ventura County). Each county has its own sheriff department. So let's say we cross into "Amarillo County". We would not see any LSCSD or LSPD cars, just ACPD (Amarillo County Police Department) cars.

 

Also, since Los Angeles County is not just one huge city, but one huge city with many major suburbs, I could see the main city of Los Santos being patrolled by the main LSPD, while suburbs outside Los Santos considered separate towns but generally part of the metropolitan area of Los Santos would be patrolled by the LSSD, similar to real-life Los Angeles. Santa Monica and Compton are not part of the City of Los Angeles, but rather the county of it. Therefore, because they are separate cities in real-life, they are not patrolled by the LAPD, but rather the LACSD (Los Angeles County Sheriff Department). Now, let's say Santa Monica and Compton are parodied as Santa Maria and Ganton, and instead of being "districts" of Los Santos like they were in San Andreas, they're now separate towns directly connected to Los Santos, like their real-life counterparts are to Los Angeles. They would not be patrolled by the LSPD, but rather the LSCSD.

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