Good Gaming PC around $1,000

[Finn 7 five 11]

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814127565 - THis has 800Mhz core clock as opposed to the 732MHz clock, Memory clock is 4200MHz as opposed to 3800MHz and the shader clock is 1760MHz as opposed to 1464MHz, but  the 570HD Prometheus suggested has 280mb more Vram, and 320 bit interface but i don't think an extra $100 justifies that since the pipelines will not really give much/any noticeable performance boost, and most games will not use 1gb of Vram very easily anyway, so the extra $90 isn't really justified.

Erm, the 570 is quite a bit faster than the 560Ti actually, the 570 almost always beats the GTX 480 while the 560 is barely above the 460.

The MSI is factory overclocked, which is why it is faster than the standard 570.

If it were a normal 560ti then yes the 570 would be much faster, but it is not the case if you cared to read the specifications.

 

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/...ti-1gb-review/1

 

At page 2 or 3 benchmarks start, the 560 overclocked is pretty much on par with the 570 about 5 fps difference, 5 fps is not worth $90, and the best performing is the HIS Radeon 6950 which is about 5 fps above the 570, and between 5 and 10 above the 560ti overclocked.

The 560tiOC uses considerably less power and generates much less heat than the other two cards as well.

 

So for original light, if you want the best performance out of the 3 go for the 6950 at $269.99. For the best price go for the 560ti, which is on average about 5fps behind, dont even bother with the 570.

Look, 560Ti=less ram

 

6950=ATi(most games work better w/ nVidia, specially GTA Games).

If you look at the benchmarks the 6950 outperforms in almost every test, if you looked at them the 560ti was only slightly behind despite vram.

 

@Yoyo the570 can be overclocked but original light in his own words "i know nothing about computers" means its probably not a good idea, and i would like to point out again that is uses less power and generates less heat according to the tests.

Since prometheus insists on the extra bit of power go with the 6950 which has more vram and outperforms the nividia and has a price tag 60 bucks lower. then which can also be overclocked yoyo.

Edited October 5, 2011 by finn4life

[Original Light]

Right now im stuck in choosing one.

 

First PrometheusX's PC looks good, but I was also thinking about this pre made one.

 

 

Here are the stats/name of it:

 

Name:Asus Essentio CM6850-07

 

Specifications: Processor: Core 17-2600 Memory: 8 (GB) Hard drive: 1,000 (GB) Video memory: 2,048 Cost: 830$

 

 

 

 

The second premade one is;

 

Name: HP Pavilion Elite h8-1020

 

Processor: Core i7-2600S Memory: 8(GB) Hard drive: 1,000 (GB) Video memory: 1,024 Cost: $950

 

So out of all 3, which one is the best? (Not Money Wise)

 

Oh, I forgot! Thank you everyone for your help.

[Finn 7 five 11]

Right now im stuck in choosing one.

 

First PrometheusX's PC looks good, but I was also thinking about this pre made one.

 

 

Here are the stats/name of it:

 

Name:Asus Essentio CM6850-07

 

Specifications: Processor: Core 17-2600 Memory: 8 (GB) Hard drive: 1,000 (GB) Video memory: 2,048 Cost: 830$

 

 

 

 

The second premade one is;

 

Name: HP Pavilion Elite h8-1020

 

Processor: Core i7-2600S Memory: 8(GB) Hard drive: 1,000 (GB) Video memory: 1,024 Cost: $950

 

So out of all 3, which one is the best? (Not Money Wise)

 

Oh, I forgot! Thank you everyone for your help.

The one you must build, even without looking at the specifications of the Pre-built computers, what you could do is find a local Pc store, get your computer build, and get them to assemble it, probably wont cost much at all. Still cheaper than buying a pre-built.

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Pre-built is better.

[Prometheus]

Right now im stuck in choosing one.

 

First PrometheusX's PC looks good, but I was also thinking about this pre made one.

 

 

Here are the stats/name of it:

 

Name:Asus Essentio CM6850-07

 

Specifications: Processor: Core 17-2600 Memory: 8 (GB) Hard drive: 1,000 (GB) Video memory: 2,048 Cost: 830$

 

 

 

 

The second premade one is;

 

Name: HP Pavilion Elite h8-1020

 

Processor: Core i7-2600S Memory: 8(GB) Hard drive: 1,000 (GB) Video memory: 1,024 Cost: $950

 

So out of all 3, which one is the best? (Not Money Wise)

 

Oh, I forgot! Thank you everyone for your help.

Just to let you know:

 

Their processors are not unlocked, they can't overclock the same way.

 

GeForce GTX 570 HD

 

1st build: GT 530

 

2nd build: HD 6570

 

Not even crossfire or SLI (2x) of those cards will make them close to the 570.

[Original Light]

Right now im stuck in choosing one.

 

First  PrometheusX's PC looks good, but I was also thinking about this pre made one.

 

 

Here are the stats/name of it:

 

Name:Asus Essentio CM6850-07

 

Specifications: Processor: Core 17-2600  Memory: 8 (GB)  Hard drive: 1,000 (GB)  Video memory: 2,048  Cost: 830$

 

 

 

 

The second premade one is;

 

Name: HP Pavilion Elite h8-1020

 

Processor: Core i7-2600S  Memory: 8(GB)  Hard drive: 1,000 (GB)  Video memory: 1,024  Cost: $950

 

So out of all 3, which one is the best? (Not Money Wise)

 

Oh, I forgot! Thank you everyone for your help.

Just to let you know:

 

Their processors are not unlocked, they can't overclock the same way.

 

GeForce GTX 570 HD

 

1st build: GT 530

 

2nd build: HD 6570

 

Not even crossfire or SLI (2x) of those cards will make them close to the 570.

Okay, im going with yours. Those links you listed are U.S Retailers, right?

[K^2]

Pre-built is better.

No, it's not. Prometheus' list is so far hands down the best deal.

 

Building a PC is not hard. You just have to be careful not to break anything. If you need help, there are plenty of people who'd be happy to provide it.

[Prometheus]

Right now im stuck in choosing one.

 

First  PrometheusX's PC looks good, but I was also thinking about this pre made one.

 

 

Here are the stats/name of it:

 

Name:Asus Essentio CM6850-07

 

Specifications: Processor: Core 17-2600   Memory: 8 (GB)   Hard drive: 1,000 (GB)  Video memory: 2,048  Cost: 830$

 

 

 

 

The second premade one is;

 

Name: HP Pavilion Elite h8-1020

 

Processor: Core i7-2600S  Memory: 8(GB)  Hard drive: 1,000 (GB)  Video memory: 1,024  Cost: $950

 

So out of all 3, which one is the best? (Not Money Wise)

 

Oh, I forgot! Thank you everyone for your help.

Just to let you know:

 

Their processors are not unlocked, they can't overclock the same way.

 

GeForce GTX 570 HD

 

1st build: GT 530

 

2nd build: HD 6570

 

Not even crossfire or SLI (2x) of those cards will make them close to the 570.

Okay, im going with yours. Those links you listed are U.S Retailers, right?

Yes. US/Canada only.

 

Again, you can take the parts to your local PC store to assemble it.

 

You can DIY too, the website has a video tutorial.

[Original Light]

Okay guys, I think I have what I need. Thanks to everybody who helped out, I know how boring it must have been for you to research all that. I will post in here again if I need anymore help.

 

Thanks again.

 

EDIT: Can someone tell me what kind of monitor I should get?

Edited October 5, 2011 by Original Light

[Prometheus]

Okay guys, I think I have what I need. Thanks to everybody who helped out, I know how boring it must have been for you to research all that. I will post in here again if I need anymore help.

 

Thanks again.

 

EDIT: Can someone tell me what kind of monitor I should get?

Budget again?

[vertical limit]

Pre-built is better.

No, it's not. Prometheus' list is so far hands down the best deal.

 

Building a PC is not hard. You just have to be careful not to break anything. If you need help, there are plenty of people who'd be happy to provide it.

Oh my f*cking bad, looks like I got mixed up with the choice of words.

 

So sorry.

[Prometheus]

Monitor | Acer D241Hbmi Glossy Black 24" 2ms HDMI LCD multi-functional monitor | $150

 

Notes:

*Free 5in1 card reader!

**Free mouse!!

***Free keyboard!!!

[Original Light]

 

Monitor | Acer D241Hbmi Glossy Black 24" 2ms HDMI LCD multi-functional monitor | $150

 

Notes:

*Free 5in1 card reader!

**Free mouse!!

***Free keyboard!!!

Now thats a deal. Thanks again!

 

EDIT: So every thing you listed is compatible ?

Edited October 6, 2011 by Original Light

[K^2]

Yes, it's all compatible. When checking for compatibility, you want to have the page with motherboard details opened, and check all other parts against that. Mostly you're looking at type of RAM supported, the CPU socket, PCI Express, and SATA channels.

[Original Light]

 

Yes, it's all compatible. When checking for compatibility, you want to have the page with motherboard details opened, and check all other parts against that. Mostly you're looking at type of RAM supported, the CPU socket, PCI Express, and SATA channels.

Okay, thanks.

 

Man, I could never know what all you guys know in a life time.

[vertical limit]

That what we are here for.

[Finn 7 five 11]

Original, i still strongly recommend you get the Radeon 6950 Graphics card.

It is 60 dollars cheaper and performs better than the one prometheus listed, that isn't hearsay, that is proven on the benchmarks.

 

Otherwise prometheus built the best build/budget pc.

Edited October 6, 2011 by finn4life

[K^2]

fun4life, while I can see how you might have gotten to think that, you are mistaken.

 

While 6950 has a higher clock rate and pushes more texels, 570's architecture allows it to catch up on games running at high resolution and making heavy use of pixel shaders. Which basically means any modern game. If you look at the benchmarks, 6950 does outperform 570 on specialized benchmarks like 3DMark11. But it falls behind, only slightly, on real games.

 

Consider this benchmark: Metro 2033 at TomsHardware

 

The rest of gaming benchmarks run similarly. 570 even at stock clock speeds outperforms 6950 where it matters. And the one Prometheus suggested is overclocked and beats the pants off of 6950 you can buy for $60 less.

[Democrab]

Original, i still strongly recommend you get the Radeon 6950 Graphics card.

It is 60 dollars cheaper and performs better than the one prometheus listed, that isn't hearsay, that is proven on the benchmarks.

 

Otherwise prometheus built the best build/budget pc.

The HD6950 matches the GTX 470 in real world games, not the 570, hence why it's priced less than the 570.

[Finn 7 five 11]

 

fun4life,

 

The rest of gaming benchmarks run similarly. 570 even at stock clock speeds outperforms 6950 where it matters. And the one Prometheus suggested is overclocked and beats the pants off of 6950 you can buy for $60 less.

Ahaha, i see i made an error, thankyou for explaining it to me though, everybody else just told me it was better, not why and under what circumstances.

[Original Light]

@PrometheusX

 

Is there anyway you could make that build any chearper? Possibly 1,000 instead of that extra hundred? I don't think I have enough $ lol. Im broke, as I need those extra dollers for shiping and tax... Stupid me. After that, im done!

[vertical limit]

Ic your that broke, then I suggest you keep your money in your pocket and save.

 

The White penny for the black times.

[Original Light]

 

Ic your that broke, then I suggest you keep your money in your pocket and save.

 

The White penny for the black times.

Im using Money that I got from my Birthday, I have around 1,000 added up and with some of my own money. I just don't wan't to use my own money.

 

Edit: Is the nVidia GeForce GT 530a good graphics card?

Edited October 7, 2011 by Original Light

[leik oh em jeez!]

Edit: Is the nVidia GeForce GT 530a good graphics card?

Not really. An 8800GT has more SPs. If you're really trying to save those pennies you might want to look at something like a GTS250 or GTX260. Used cards can be had in the $50-80 range.

[Original Light]

Edit: Is the nVidia GeForce GT 530a good graphics card?

Not really. An 8800GT has more SPs. If you're really trying to save those pennies you might want to look at something like a GTS250 or GTX260. Used cards can be had in the $50-80 range.

Are there any down sides to used Graphic Cards? Do there performance suffer, or are they just like new cards. Because surely if I bought a used computer it would not run like a new one, or does that not apply to Graphic Cards?

[leik oh em jeez!]

Edit: Is the nVidia GeForce GT 530a good graphics card?

Not really. An 8800GT has more SPs. If you're really trying to save those pennies you might want to look at something like a GTS250 or GTX260. Used cards can be had in the $50-80 range.

Are there any down sides to used Graphic Cards? Do there performance suffer, or are they just like new cards. Because surely if I bought a used computer it would not run like a new one, or does that not apply to Graphic Cards?

Really the only problem with used graphics cards is the lack of a warranty. Most sellers will offer a DOA warranty but that's it. Meaning if it doesn't work as soon as you get it, you can return it.

 

But other than being DOA, there's not much to go wrong with a graphics card. As long as you make sure you keep enough cool air getting to it and don't OC it too much it should be fine. I've never had a graphics card die on me.

 

Come to think of it, the only hardware I've ever had fail are power supplies and hard drives. Those are really about the only things you shouldn't buy used.

[Finn 7 five 11]

Edit: Is the nVidia GeForce GT 530a good graphics card?

Not really. An 8800GT has more SPs. If you're really trying to save those pennies you might want to look at something like a GTS250 or GTX260. Used cards can be had in the $50-80 range.

Are there any down sides to used Graphic Cards? Do there performance suffer, or are they just like new cards. Because surely if I bought a used computer it would not run like a new one, or does that not apply to Graphic Cards?

Really the only problem with used graphics cards is the lack of a warranty. Most sellers will offer a DOA warranty but that's it. Meaning if it doesn't work as soon as you get it, you can return it.

 

But other than being DOA, there's not much to go wrong with a graphics card. As long as you make sure you keep enough cool air getting to it and don't OC it too much it should be fine. I've never had a graphics card die on me.

 

Come to think of it, the only hardware I've ever had fail are power supplies and hard drives. Those are really about the only things you shouldn't buy used.

yeah if you really want to save buy some of the parts used. just not harddrives with other peoples junk on there. leik oh em jeez link him to some good river to buy used stuff. I can look for the parts if you link me to the sites when I get home.

[leik oh em jeez!]

ebay is good for a wide selection, while you can often get better deals on craigslist if you can find what you're looking for.

 

forums.nvidia.com also as a buy/sell/trade section you can check out. I've made several transactions there and all of them have gone smoothly. Another plus here is that most of the users there like to take good care of their cards.

[Finn 7 five 11]

Having a look on ebay finding parts cheaper is difficult, htey are mostly priced the same as on newegg, or more.

 

If you can only spend $1000 you can get the GT 560 that i recommended, which is $90 less, a little less performance, but if that is all you can afford it should work great.

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If you want to try ebay...

 

HEre is the CPU bidding ends in 18 hours, it is brand new, but no returns accepted it is $167 instead of $220

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-i5-2500k-Unl...=item2a1492e757

 

Here is the Graphics card 2 days left to bid, it is only $242 instead of $340 no returns accepted.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-new-EVGA-GeF...=item1c1f8ed7bf

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[K^2]

560 is going to be quite a bit less performance, actually, but I concur. That's probably the best place to cut a corner without losing too much on performance. It's also the part that's going to be the easiest to upgrade in the future.