9/11 was 10 years ago

[lil weasel]

 

The one thing I remember most was a News Broadcast when the group who claimed to have done it was making their statement. The translator said “it was revenge for 20,000 women and children who died in an Iran refugee camp due to American embargo on food and medicine.”

After the video was shown the news reader recapped by saying “it was because of the 20,000 soldiers who died in POW camps.”

 

I never saw that video again on any of the news stations.

 

[Robinski]

It's pretty jarring to look back at the last ten years and think how different it would all have been if the attacks had never taken place. We really do live in a "Post 9/11 world". Just about every major political decision in the West has felt the fallout of the attacks and the reaction somehow in the last decade. Would we be in Afghanistan? Certainly not. Would we have gone to Iraq? Maybe, maybe not. Would the Arab Spring have happened? Would so many nationalist groups exist? Would there be such a vicious schism between democrats and republicans? Who knows.

 

Such a lot of hate and bloodshed brought about by a small number of selfish people.

[Vercetti27]

felt like yesterday ? I never understood this expression . I can remember quite clearly what happened yesterday and I don't recall that. Obviously its going to linger in your mind, it's probably the biggest tragedy this century.

 

RIP to those who lost they're lives. I've since visited ground zero and been to the top of the Trade Centre and Rockefeller, just imagining how it would feel to be there that day, watching the plane so close collide at the speed it did. It must have been frightening

[mrpain]

Instead of turning this into a "Why it is Bush's fault" and "Why Bush Sucks" arguments here, how about we have some respect and stay on the topic. It doesn't matter what president we had, or what they did right or wrong. Either way, thousands of people lost their lives, and instead of bitching about the president, how about we respect them, and their friends, and families in this topic?

I apologize for bringing it up then.

 

I remembered watching a 9/11 documentary. I think it was called The Day That Changed The World.

 

The whole buildings coming down was tragic but what was even more tragic was the people running away from the falling towers. It's amazing to see how destructive it was by looking at the roads filled with dust.

 

Can't believe I was six when it happened. I didn't knew we had an America back then. God knows what the passengers in the planes were thinking when they were heading into their deaths. Prayers for them all.

[Algonquin Assassin]

I still remember the day quite crystal clear. I bet I wasn't the only one who didn't get a full grasp of what happened at first. I was only 15, but it wasn't until I came home from school to watch the news to understand what had happened.

 

My mum was in Bali at the time and she couldn't get a plane home for a few days, because the airports were on high alert. It was quite scary.

 

Hard to imagine that it was 10 years ago.

Edited September 8, 2011 by Miamivicecity

[Punk-in-Drublic]

I’ve just come across this photo from Thomas Hoepker of a group of people nonchalantly sitting in a park in Brooklyn as a cloud of smoke from the twin towers rises above the Manhattan skyline. I think it’s quite a fascinating photo in a really dark way.

[sivispacem]

Al-Qaeda is just as strong and committed as it ever was.

Not to derail the topic, but this is quite far from the truth. All this rhetoric on how we have the "upper hand against al-Qaeda" isn't just pipe-dreams, it's a rapidly approaching reality. Committed? Yes, perhaps, they do still have the desire to attack the West and to further their dreams of uniting the Arab world into a one-state, theocratic Sharia-law-governed conglomerate through violence. But think about it, have they actually been that successful since 9/11, which is without a shadow of doubt one of the most impressive tactical victories ever to occur but which has also been something of a strategic own-goal? Have AQ themselves conducted an attack in the West since 9/11? No, they have not. Have the even successfully targeted Western assets abroad? Not really. In the years before the 9/11 attacks, we had the first WTC bombing, the bombings of US embassies at Nairobi and Dar Es Salaam and the bombing of the USS Cole, to name but the major attacks. We haven't even seen attacks on the scale of these targeting Western assets since September 11th. Sure, we've seen bombings in places like Bali, Baghdad and Istanbul, but these have been carried out by smaller, AQ affiliated organisations rather than AQ themselves. Hell, even the bombing of the trains in Madrid was carried out by a home-formed, AQ inspired organisation rather than AQ-affiliated individuals.

 

al-Qaeda have lost a large swathe of their leadership in recent years. Their logistical and financing capability have been damaged to the point where many attacks that have been conducted have been extremely primitive. The interventions in Afghanistan and Iraq may have turned some in the Arab world against the West, but recent events in North Africa and the Middle East suggest that despite these perceptions Western nations are on-the-whole widely respected. AQ have lost a significant amount of their recruiting power, now being forced to prey on the naive, ignorant, deluded and even indoctrinate children into carrying out their attacks. This has had a marked effect on their successfulness. What's more the Western intelligence apparatus have become wise to their tactics and behaviour, and we are foiling their plots at ever increasing rates. Their primary bases of operations- Afghanistan and the Northwest Frontier Province- have in large parts become no-go areas so the entire leadership has had to transition between these places and Somalia and Yemen, which has been difficult and costly. Now they're actively being hunted in South Yemen by US-trained and led Yemeni special forces, and in the North of the country by Saudi special operations teams. Their only "safe haven" is Somalia and that's becoming ever less safe, with the AU gaining a stronger grip on their territories and the famine decimating their popular support. The "Arab Spring" uprisings are an even more important clue in their demise- Islamism, Wahhabi teachings and Salafism have had little to no part in the revolutions across the Arab world; instead, they're inspired by Western ideologies.

 

The biggest immediate threat to the Western world is home-grown and lone-wolf terrorist attacks inspired by AQ. I'm not saying that they don't have the capacity to attack the West- in fact I believe we are likely to see a substantial attack on Western interests within the next two years- but such an attack will not be brazen or bold like 9/11, it will take a more conventional form and is unlikely to have the same effects. We haven't defeated them, but they're definitely on the back foot.

[WF the Hobgoblin]

Flying pre 9/11 was a much nicer experience. I remember when I was young all the kids on the plane where allowed to go up into the cockpit and have a look out. Imagine the sh*t storm that would get kicked up if that happened these days.

I remember that. Summer of 2000 while flying back from Stockholm, my younger brother and I were invited into the cockpit.

 

Last time I was on a plane though so I have never experienced post 9/11 flying.

[SIKKS66]

Was 11 at the time. Getting picked up by my mum, she was talking to another parent about it, the story was all over the radio. Was probably 4pm UK time when we were all at home with the news channels on, watching the towers falling.

 

Yeah, the decade has gone super fast. Was watching an old Sopranos episode last night when I realised THAT was 10 years old. Time is f*cking flying!

[the utah dude]

it's only ironic but when 3000 peoples dying from a from a so-called terrorist attack in a "rich" contry everyone care about it but when more than 100,000k little african kid dies from disease and whatever nobody care about them... how sad the world is today.

 

 

Anyway, i don't really care what the admin say, if i'm starting talking about conspiraties, these tower where demolished by a controlled demolition and the planes where just a spoof for hiding that.

 

For what ? for doing a useless war and taking all the petrol/oil out there for making some money $$$

 

 

Also :

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

PS : f*ck 2001 one of the worst year i haved to live and beside the release of gta III it's just a sh*t balls.

 

[sivispacem]

it's only ironic but when 3000 peoples dying from a from a so-called terrorist attack in a "rich" contry everyone care about it but when more than 100,000k little african kid dies from disease and whatever nobody care about them... how sad the world is today.

 

Anyway, i don't really care what the admin say, if i'm starting talking about conspiraties, these tower where demolished by a controlled demolition and the planes where just a spoof for hiding that.

 

For what ? for doing a useless war and taking all the petrol/oil out there for making some money $$$

 

 

Also :

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

PS : f*ck 2001 one of the worst year i haved to live and beside the release of gta III it's just a sh*t balls.

Death by natural causes and death in a tragic incident are completely different issues. There's no ethics in the natural world, there is in the human one.

 

Enjoy your temp-ban. When you get off it, send me a PM and I'll explain to you every level you are wrong on.

[lil weasel]

 

it's only ironic but when 3000 peoples dying from a from a so-called terrorist attack in a "rich" contry everyone care about it but when more than 100,000k little african kid dies from disease and whatever nobody care about them... how sad the world is today.

Anyway, i don't really care what the admin say, if i'm starting talking about conspiraties, these tower where demolished by a controlled demolition and the planes where just a spoof for hiding that.

For what ? for doing a useless war and taking all the petrol/oil out there for making some money $$$

 

That's because one was a "horrific unwarranted personal attack" by Bush's CIA trained anti-Russian Afgan freedom fighters, while the other is merely "God's will."

[Mak]

I was just a kid i didn't even know about 9/11 hell i didn't even know anything about America ,but when i watched those video's and documentaries ,i felt sorry for all the people who died

 

Also true it seemed like yesterday i was talking to a friend about 9/11 and that was a year ago

Edited September 8, 2011 by M.A.K

[AndrefromEstonia]

Same here, i remember it clearly. I don't know if i was sick or was the school over...but it was a school day. I just scrolled trough the TV channels to find something interesting when i noticed some burning huge skycrapers on CNN. Didn't really know what the hell was going on...i got bored so i went to another channel. Most likely went to watch cartoons n sh*t But later i saw the estonian news, then i got it what had happened.

[AlexGTAGamer]

I only remember part of that heart breaking day so I'll say what I remeber.

 

I was only 5 at the time and I remember at first it was an ordinary day, I just left my bedroom and walked down the stairs to the living room, it was there that I saw it all. My mum, dad, 2 brothers and all of their friends sitting and standing around the TV watching BBC news and seeing the first WTC Tower on fire, I then questioned "What's going on?" at which point my mum said "Get him out of here", I remember being taken back up into my room for the rest of the day. I had no idea what was happening until I saw more news reports the day after of what had happened the day before. The sights of the planes crashing into the towers, the people jumping to their deaths, it was on that day I lost all respect for humanity and felt that it was the beginning of the end.

 

The years after 9/11 is when it began to hit me even harder especially airport security at Bristol Airport which until 9/11 was "too" relaxed and I wasn't worried at all, now I'm sh*t scared to go through airport security. Seeing armed officers walking around the airport scares me even more.

 

EDIT:

Oh and for the anniversary I will do the usual minute silence and probably watch some memorial videos on "Earthcam".

Edited September 8, 2011 by AlexGTAGamer

[Stinky12]

The Falling Man

[Pagelzilla]

I was 13 on Sept 11, 2001 and was attending a catholic middle school. We had a church service that morning and during the priest's homily he asked that we "pray for all the people who are suffering because of the terrorist attacks in New York." My teacher was sitting next to me and we both looked at each other with puzzled looks on our faces. After the service was over we attended classes like we normally would. I think this was due to our school not having a lot of money so we only had 2 tv's to go around. I remember my english teacher showing us images of the twin towers from news websites briefly later in the school day.

 

I felt oddly disconnectred from the images because I had never been to NYC before then and couldn't grasp the true scale of the tragedy. However, when I returned home that night and turned on the news it all became clear. For the 10th anniversary I hope everyone takes at least a moment out of their day to remember how that day made you feel. And if you have a chance, say thank you to a firefighter or a police man. They really are heros.

[anus]

I still can't believe we're still suffering from the problems that 9/11 caused ten years on.

Pretty much.

 

It's f*cking retarded tbh. I mean yeah people died and I'm sure a lot of people lost their loved ones, but it's in the past. Reminding yourself of some bullsh*t that happened 10 years ago (!) and grieving about it is not gonna do you any good. All it's gonna do for you is make you depressed.

 

It's really intriguing and sad at the same time how it almost seems like humanity likes being depressed. If the present moment isn't depressing, they'll pull some sh*t from the past or what they think will go wrong in the future to make the moment depressing.

[AnthMUFC-Champs]

I remember this day very well and still cant quite believe that an event like this could occur. I was in school at the time and the head teacher informed us all that the United States was under attack from terrorist's. I remember getting home and it being on the news then in the mourning i will never forget the front page of the papers, images of people jumping from the burning towers. Them images always stuck with me and made me realise at the time how severe this event was.

[sivispacem]

I still can't believe we're still suffering from the problems that 9/11 caused ten years on.

Pretty much.

 

It's f*cking retarded tbh. I mean yeah people died and I'm sure a lot of people lost their loved ones, but it's in the past. Reminding yourself of some bullsh*t that happened 10 years ago (!) and grieving about it is not gonna do you any good. All it's gonna do for you is make you depressed.

 

It's really intriguing and sad at the same time how it almost seems like humanity likes being depressed. If the present moment isn't depressing, they'll pull some sh*t from the past or what they think will go wrong in the future to make the moment depressing.

We'd been "suffering" from those problems for more than 20 years before 9/11. People fail to grasp the fact that Islamist organisations have targeted the West and it's interests (often at the behest of the Soviet Union) since the 1960s. All this really is is a continuation of that trend.

[allhailkingryan]

I was 5 at the time. I refused to go on holiday until I was 7 because I was scared.

[cidamelo]

I was going to the beach, and I thought it was a movie or something like that! Then I realized it was for real!!

[Icarus]

I was in the eighth grade, so I would have been 13-years-old at the time of 9/11. I was in shop class at school, which was last period, so the attacks had already happened about six hours prior, but no one knew of it. My friend had to go outside to take out the trash and he came back in saying his mother told him someone blew up the White House. My friend was known to lie quite a bit or exaggerate, so I just said whatever and left it at that. When we got back to homeroom, I remember asking Mr. Doucet if the White House was blown up or not; he said no, but he had an odd look on his face like he was hiding something.

 

I didn't think twice about it. I got on the bus and went home. I walked in the back door and into the kitchen and saw my grandmother was watching TV and she had a look of horror on her face, so I turned around and looked at the TV. The very first image I saw was that of the North Tower collapsing and I had no idea what context to put this in (as I had not known there was a terrorist attack), so all I could think was, "What the f*ck?" I sat down and watched the news with my grandmother and learned that it was a terrorist attack and that a plane had also hit the Pentagon and another had crashed in Pennsylvania.

 

At that moment, I became scared. I don't know why - perhaps I was fearful of something like that happening even closer to come. I also felt very sad and for some reason, the event really hit me; I'm also not sure why, especially since I'm not an American and it didn't damage the morale of my country. I guess I just felt empathetic to those who lost family and friends, as well as the fact by watching a plane crash into the building, you just watched hundreds of people die and when you see the towers collapse, you just watched even more die. So yeah, I guess it was sad watching people die right before you.

 

The first image I saw of the North Tower collapsing has been burned into my head and I do not think it will be gone for a while.

 

On the subject of 9/11, I'm also proud (to the extent one can be for such an event) of the role Canada played during Operation Yellow Ribbon; we were truly there for our American brothers and sisters that day.

[JOSEPH X]

I used to say I lost my faith in humanity that day. I used to blame OBL for a depression I was in at the time. It's only in the past year that I have realised that all my problems and depression came from the alcoholism that I was suffering from at the time.

 

I find it shameful now that I was in a wine shop/liquor store buying a six pack when I heard the news. The guy serving was in a panic "PLANES ARE FALLING OUT OF THE SKY IN AMERICA MAN!" I went home (with my beer) and got drunk. The second plane had already hit by this time and it was all about the trapped people jumping out.

 

I called my girlfriend at the time "Just come straight home darling, something really terrible has happened in America.

 

Anyway I won't bore you with the details of my gf leaving me within a year - me losing everything, but I seriously thought that it had something to do with 9/11 and how depressing it was, when in reality I drank alcohol to stop the withdrawl symptoms.

 

What has never changed is my belief that we can't share a planet with these people - they need to change or die (or kill us all and win)

 

I visited ground zero in 2009 and did a lot of reflecting while I was there. It just changed the world forever. In 2010 my niece's husband was killed by an IED in Afghanistan - you just can't escape the ramifications of what happened that day, real or imaginary - everyone's life has changed.

 

I quit alcohol seven and a half years ago.

[lil weasel]

It really isn't all that bad.

Remember the Maine?

Remember the Alamo?

Remember Pearl Harbour?

Remember Batan?

 

Well... maybe it is different, as more civilians than Government employees were hit.

 

Remember Dresden?

Remember Hamburg?

Remember Pforzheim?

Remember London?

 

"The Gods make mighty the hands of the Right."

Edited September 8, 2011 by lil weasel

[SmC12]

I don't really remember much from that day, I was 5 and wouldn't even have known what was going on anyway. I've become really interested in 9/11 over the years, for no particular reason, maybe my interest in aviation, or just because I like a good conspiracy from time to time. I just find the whole thing so bizzare and unreal. Something like that happened only 10 years ago, I just can't imagine standing there and witnessing something like that.

 

Tragic day for many, one that - clearly - will be remembered for decades. Hopefully as the only disaster like that to ever happen. I'm not doing anything special in particular, though I imagine there will be a load of documentaries all over TV so I'll probably end up watching them. Is there anything special going on in New York? I know they always do stuff, but I mean since it's the 10th anniversary I'm sure alot of people will be going out to Manhatten to pay respects etc.

 

I know YouTube is full of a bunch of bullsh*t conspiracy videos, some that are just so retarded it's unbelievable. Although there are some that make really good points. I found "Loose Change" - a documentary created to investigate the key points of 9/11 and how it can be directly linked to the US government - quite interesting to watch. I really hate coincedences that seen to be more than that, but there is no way of telling. That pisses me off.

 

The guy makes some great points though, it's very interesting to see the whole "other-side" kind of consipracy, the kind that looks at the possability of it being set-up. And it's not just a load of retarded bullsh*t either with no evidence or points to back it up. For example the 'Operation Northwood' - which would have been very similar to 9/11 where the US government planned hijacking of planes involving Cuba, so that they could have a reason to attack. Similar to the Iraq invasion. Now of course I'm not at all suggesting 9/11 was an inside job, I mean I don't know what to believe, since we don't know all the facts. I'm neutral in that respect, and I just remember it as the tragic and terrible day that it was. It's just interesting to hear the other side of things by someone who isn't crazy.

 

If you have time I definately reccommend giving it a watch, I only just saw it a few months ago, before that I heard people talk about it but didn't know what it was. Anyway, here's the Linky

[TheNathanNS]

I must say I feel really sorry for those that died during the events.

I saw some film of it on YouTube just last month, I was 4 when it happened so I don't remember it.

The horrors of the screams really did send chills down my spine.

R.I.P To all who died, and deepest apologies to those family members of those who died.

[Typhus]

9/11 showed me just how far certain left-wing elements were willing to go to destroy Western civilisation. When you have some of these people justifying the attacks and using the murder of 3000 men, women and children to make some trite point about poor Mother Africa it shows you where their priorities lie.

Thousands lie dead and they cannot even muster up the decency to blame those responsible. No, no, no, America brought it on herself, right? I'm sure that's a great consolation to those murdered children. The attacks proved that you can't always count on your own people.

 

The teenage non-conformist crowd will always side with them. Just like they did during the Cold War. At a time when America was suffering and traumatised, all they could do was point and laugh and bitch about f*cking Palestine. They do it now. If London or New York got bombed tommorow, these leeches would crawl out and feed off the tragedy to show us all how corrupt we are and how 'brainwashed' we've become and how the attacks were completely justified.

 

9/11 showed me, once and for all, how insidious and disgusting the globalist/Anarchist masses really are. What a plague they are to humanity. How they shield their red fascism with humanitarian bullsh*t. How they preach freedom yet would deny you the right to be proud of your country. How they weep for Africa and the Middle East yet smirk as an American soldier is sent home in a flag-draped casket.

 

Yet people still buy their bullsh*t. It's nice to see how far the sympathy for the victims of terrorism really extends, isn't it?

[sivispacem]

 

9/11 showed me just how far certain left-wing elements were willing to go to destroy Western civilisation.

Which would be true, if most Islamic Jihadi organisations weren't closer to fascism. They may have been influenced by Soviet-era Communism, but they bear more resemblance to the actions of Hitler and Hirohito. The rest of your statement- with regards to those who have tried to justify it in the years as a statement against American foreign policy or other such bollocks- I agree with to a greater or lesser extent.

[Typhus]

 

9/11 showed me just how far certain left-wing elements were willing to go to destroy Western civilisation.

Which would be true, if most Islamic Jihadi organisations weren't closer to fascism. They may have been influenced by Soviet-era Communism, but they bear more resemblance to the actions of Hitler and Hirohito. The rest of your statement I agree with to a greater or lesser extent.

Very true. But here's my point.

The leftists are not really fascists. How can they be? By their very definition they believe in liberty. Yet when 3000 people were brutally murdered, some jumping out of a skyscraper in pure panic, they defended the killers and justified their actions. Instead of blaming al Queda, they turned their accusations and bile on their own government.

Now, I am not saying that being critical is a bad thing. Of course not. But these people who believe in liberty have made a concious effort to defend and endorse right-wing, homophobic, misogynistic mass murderers. They did it after 9/11, they did it in Iraq when people were getting their heads cut off, they're still doing it in Afghanistan and in any other conflict we get into.

They pick any side other than America. Hell, they would gladly pick open, shameless Soviet tyranny over Western democracy. And apparently they would rather endure an Islamic theocracy than labour under the horrors of a liberal American regime.

 

To be frank, I hate them more than the terrorists. The terrorists, baby-killers though they are, belive in something. What do their key defenders belive in? God? Nope. Their country? Nope. Only some tacky, Lennon-esque view of a utopia where we all get along and anyone who wants to give a sh*t about their religious views or their patriotic feelings are quietly shuffled aside for the greater good.

 

If they felt any horror at 9/11 it was always tempered by that pompous attitude of: 'Well, worse things are happening in Palestine every day and you don't cry for them!'

 

How long did they even keep up the pretense of national solidarity? How long did they even pretend to give a sh*t about the people who died? It probably dried up as soon as those poor, misunderstood freedom fighters in Afghanistan began defending their right to stone women to death and systematically murder homosexuals.

 

Jesus Christ man! Just look how they reacted when bin Laden got shot!

We should have taken him alive! Obama is a murderer! Obama is a murderer! What Obama did was TERRORISM!!!11!!

The fact that certain leftist elements criticised the bin Laden killing shows you whose side they were on and who they were rooting for. They are nothing but masochists. Praying feverently for the victory and betterment of those they should despise.

9/11 gave them what they always wanted, the chance to take cheap shots at America whenever they wanted to.