Is it okay for my PC to be loud when I use ENB?

[œaœa]

For GTA IV? I have an Intel i5 2500k OC'ed at 4GHz with the stock fan. Also a GTX 570 and a 600watt psu.

[OverTheBelow]

Yep, components get very hot under load like that and obviously the fans need to run faster to move the heat away. Its normal.

[yoječ]

It's acceptable as long as temperatures stay within limits.

[OverTheBelow]

4ghz on stock cooling doesn't sound great at all.

[sivispacem]

4ghz on stock cooling doesn't sound great at all.

This. The stock cooler on the i5 build I did for a mate was sitting at high 60s under high load on standard clocks and cooler. I wouldn't want to push anything more than that through the stock jobbies, they're crap.

[Finn 7 five 11]

4ghz on stock cooling doesn't sound great at all.

This. The stock cooler on the i5 build I did for a mate was sitting at high 60s under high load on standard clocks and cooler. I wouldn't want to push anything more than that through the stock jobbies, they're crap.

Yeah if your PC is making a lot of noise, chances are its pretty hot, and you should most definitely not be using stock fans when hearing such noise when you are overclocking, invest in some fans mang!

[Pat]

I have an Intel i5 2500k OC'ed at 4GHz with the stock fan.

You are either very brave or very stupid. I tried that with mine and my temperatures soared.

 

Either go back to the default clock or get a better cooler.

[Kyle F]

Agreed...stock cooler overclocked at 4GHz with a Core i5...what...1.4v - 1.58v? An AMD Phenom II X6 1090T can hit 4.4GHz at 1.652v, and that's quite extreme and if the system either crashes or an improper shutdown has been performed, rebooting it'll say in the BIOS "CPU Overvolted" or something. I suggest using STOCK speeds and voltages until you get a water cooler...something like the Corsair Hydro H70/H100.

[œaœa]

Using the Asus EFI Bios I reset everything to default. Thanks for the tips guys, I will be buying a new fan soon.

[Kyle F]

Using the Asus EFI Bios I reset everything to default. Thanks for the tips guys, I will be buying a new fan soon.

No no no no NO! You need a water cooler if your going to be running your CPU at 4GHz. Period! N-E-V-E-R use Air Cooling for overclocking alot. The CPU Voltage is what heats the CPU even more, because more volts are being used from your Power Supply TO the CPU. So your CPU is bound to get hotter than normal. Get a water cooling solution. I recommend Corsair's Hydro H70 or higher.

[Finn 7 five 11]

Using the Asus EFI Bios I reset everything to default. Thanks for the tips guys, I will be buying a new fan soon.

No no no no NO! You need a water cooler if your going to be running your CPU at 4GHz. Period! N-E-V-E-R use Air Cooling for overclocking alot. The CPU Voltage is what heats the CPU even more, because more volts are being used from your Power Supply TO the CPU. So your CPU is bound to get hotter than normal. Get a water cooling solution. I recommend Corsair's Hydro H70 or higher.

That is debatable, if he has a quality case with great airflow, fans might be really good.

HE could try the fan first and see what the temps are like, if they are still super high, well either he stops overclocking or he gets watercooling like you suggested.

[Pat]

I'm backing the suggestion of a Hydro series. They're as easy to install as any air cooler, they only run $90-$110, and they're more effective than any air cooler on the market.

 

@finn4life: If his case has exceptional airflow, the radiator that accompanies any of the Hydro series coolers will take advantage of it.

[œaœa]

Is it normal for the fan to rev up when playing the game without enb at high settings??

[Finn 7 five 11]

Is it normal for the fan to rev up when playing the game without enb at high settings??

Yes it is.

 

@Pat, better safe than sorry i suppose.

[Pat]

 

Is it normal for the fan to rev up when playing the game without enb at high settings??

As long as you're running the stock cooler, it's going to run at higher speeds with any game. You might want to download a temperature monitoring program (I'd recommend Core Temp, but if you're still OCing despite being heavily advised against it, it won't show the correct temp) and benchmark a few games and see how hot your CPU runs for each.

 

Honestly, dude, invest into a better cooler. I really think you should pick out a Hydro, but anything will be a huge improvement over the sh*tty little fan that comes with the processor.

 

@finn4life: explain what you mean by that. These things are as idiot-proof as you can get with water coolers: they're pre-filled, cannot be opened... honestly all you have to do is just bolt them in, just like an air cooler.

Edited September 8, 2011 by Pat

[Finn 7 five 11]

@finn4life: explain what you mean by that. These things are as idiot-proof as you can get with water coolers: they're pre-filled, cannot be opened... honestly all you have to do is just bolt them in, just like an air cooler.

I was agreeing with you haha, i meant "better safe than sorry, get a water cooler".

Sorry about the mis-understanding.

[SyphonPayne]

Everyone saying you need high voltage and/or water cooling to get a Sandy Bridge to 4GHz has obviously either never experienced overclocking one or never read about SB. I have the 2600k (which is basically the 2500K with more cache and Hyper-Threading.) I ditched the stock cooler immediately as it's pretty puny, but I've read reports of people getting even the 2600k (plus HT, which tends to make it run even hotter) to 4GHz easily on the stock cooler. I'm sure it'd be loud though, and I probably wouldn't try running OCCT/Prime95/IntelBurnTest on it.

 

Just download Core Temp, run your usual programs, make sure temps are under 70 for your everyday tasks, though 75-80 you can get away with, but I would want to avoid running that hot as much as possible.

 

My 2600K is running @ 4.3 HT enabled with 1.31 vcore and everything else except the RAM (1.5v) on auto. vcore goes as low as 1.24 with vdroop running Prime95 and IntelBurnTest at the same time. I get 75C max using a Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme with the fan on low in an 82 degree room (only 1350 RPM, and I purposely let the room heat up to check temps.) Normal everyday temps are 60 or less generally. This thing is ultra quiet, no watercooling involved, and passes Prime95, IBT, OCCT, basically anything you throw at it with flying colors.

 

 

Long story short: Get a better cooler, but in the meantime, as long as your temps are reasonable, and you don't mind a loud-ass cooler, then 4GHz is OK on the 2500K using the stock cooler, might want to tweak the voltage down, bet you could run 4GHz with less than 1.28 vcore, could help lower temps a tad, especially with no HT on the i5.

 

 

EDIT: By the way, those Corsair "water coolers" are not really "true" water cooling, and are only as good as the best air coolers.

Edited September 8, 2011 by SyphonPayne

[OverTheBelow]

I'm backing the suggestion of a Hydro series. They're as easy to install as any air cooler, they only run $90-$110, and they're more effective than any air cooler on the market.

 

@finn4life: If his case has exceptional airflow, the radiator that accompanies any of the Hydro series coolers will take advantage of it.

The H70 is worse than the NH-D14 with high overclocks (1ghz+) and costs more money. Not to mention it is quite a bit louder, according to reviews.

 

If you want a Corsair H cooler than is better than traditional heatsink cooling, you're going to have to pay up alot more to get a H100 or H80 or something.

[sivispacem]

 

Using the Asus EFI Bios I reset everything to default. Thanks for the tips guys, I will be buying a new fan soon.

No no no no NO! You need a water cooler if your going to be running your CPU at 4GHz. Period! N-E-V-E-R use Air Cooling for overclocking alot. The CPU Voltage is what heats the CPU even more, because more volts are being used from your Power Supply TO the CPU. So your CPU is bound to get hotter than normal. Get a water cooling solution. I recommend Corsair's Hydro H70 or higher.

Wrong. Water cooling is a hideously complicated and expensive solution to a problem that can be solved easily and cheaply. Sure, it's greaet if you want to push 5GHz, but with a good CPU cooler, a quality motherboard and power supply, and a case with decent airflow you can run the i5 on load at 4GHz all day long without problem. A good air-based CPU cooler is, what, £30? And the cheapest reasonable water-cooling solution starts at about £130. Unless I was going for insane clock speeds, I'd go for the air cooler and keep the £100. It can be better spent.

[Pat]

 

I'm backing the suggestion of a Hydro series. They're as easy to install as any air cooler, they only run $90-$110, and they're more effective than any air cooler on the market.

 

@finn4life: If his case has exceptional airflow, the radiator that accompanies any of the Hydro series coolers will take advantage of it.

The H70 is worse than the NH-D14 with high overclocks (1ghz+) and costs more money. Not to mention it is quite a bit louder, according to reviews.

 

If you want a Corsair H cooler than is better than traditional heatsink cooling, you're going to have to pay up alot more to get a H100 or H80 or something.

I never specifically suggested the H70. Personally I think the H80 is the best choice, and it's what I'm going to be buying, but maybe I'm alone in that I believe paying a bit more is worth the increase in quality. It's only about $30 more expensive than the air cooler I had picked out, after all. I don't know where you're getting "a lot more" from, either, because last time I checked my local Best-Buy there was only a $10 difference between the H70 and H80.

 

 

Everyone saying you need high voltage and/or water cooling to get a Sandy Bridge to 4GHz has obviously either never experienced overclocking one

As I said earlier, I'm running a Sandy Bridge i5 on the stock cooler right now, I already tried overclocking to 4Ghz, my temperatures soared to about 90C while idling. If you think that's a safe temperature you're delusional.

 

I stand by my suggestion. I don't think one of the Hydro series coolers is absolutely necessary, but I think it's certainly the best choice.

[Sombra]

 

Using the Asus EFI Bios I reset everything to default. Thanks for the tips guys, I will be buying a new fan soon.

No no no no NO! You need a water cooler if your going to be running your CPU at 4GHz. Period! N-E-V-E-R use Air Cooling for overclocking alot. The CPU Voltage is what heats the CPU even more, because more volts are being used from your Power Supply TO the CPU. So your CPU is bound to get hotter than normal. Get a water cooling solution. I recommend Corsair's Hydro H70 or higher.

I clocked an i7 to 4.0 on a Zalman CNPS cooler, you don't need a sh*tty corsair h70 to do it..

[AndrefromEstonia]

LOL...AMD kicks ass there with it's stock cooler.

 

 

But on subject, you should just unclock to a steadier clock speed...maybe lower some settings on the game if you still have problems. If those don't work then reinstall ENb or GTA 4.

[sivispacem]

 

LOL...AMD kicks ass there with it's stock cooler.

 

 

But on subject, you should just unclock to a steadier clock speed...maybe lower some settings on the game if you still have problems. If those don't work then reinstall ENb or GTA 4.

I used to have that motherboard- M4A79XTD Evo. It's sh*t. First one popped a solid-state capacitor (how is that even possible) after about 3 months use. Second one had the RAM interface chip on the second bank of RAM sockets die, leading to never-ending BSOD's. Heap of crap.

 

I would never in a million years run the risk of 4GHz clocks on the standard AMD cooler. No, no no. I won't even run the risk of pushing 4GHz on my massive 120mm x 90mm x 70mm Sunbeam Core Contact Freezer for a prolonged period of time. The Phenom IIs run hot with the best coolers and at the best of times. 4GHz on stock cooling on high load and for more than a few minutes is a recipe for some seriously toasted components.

[SyphonPayne]

 

Everyone saying you need high voltage and/or water cooling to get a Sandy Bridge to 4GHz has obviously either never experienced overclocking one

As I said earlier, I'm running a Sandy Bridge i5 on the stock cooler right now, I already tried overclocking to 4Ghz, my temperatures soared to about 90C while idling. If you think that's a safe temperature you're delusional.

 

I stand by my suggestion. I don't think one of the Hydro series coolers is absolutely necessary, but I think it's certainly the best choice.

I find it hard to believe you had 90C idle temps when overclocking to 4GHz, unless your heatsink is improperly mounted, which is pretty easy to do with the stock cooler.

 

For one thing, every chip is different. For another thing, if you left EIST, C-states and SpeedStep on, it will idle at 1600MHz anyway, so not sure how it could idle at 90C at only 1.6GHz and undervolting, unless the cooler is improperly mounted. Even if you disabled EIST etc., everywhere I read (just Google 2500K 4GHz stock cooler) says the stock cooler does just fine at 4GHz, generally giving about 80C in Prime95, and less in everyday tasks. Second of all, if you just did the "easy overlock" or simply upped the multi while keeping auto vcore, that could also explain your high temps as leaving the vcore on auto when going 4GHz+ seriously overvolts the processor. With the i5 and it's lack of hyperthreading, it only really needs 1.2-1.28 volts @ 4GHz.

 

Anyway, I'm not saying that overclocking to 4GHz with the stock cooler is ideal by any means, but it's certainly not an impossible task.

 

As for the Corsair coolers being the "best" choice, considering their price/performance ratio, and the fact that they tend to hamper airflow to the rest of your computer's cooling performance (take up space, even if the radiator is mounted as an exhaust fan, the radiator can constrict airflow,) and the potential for pump failure causing the CPU to overheat (if the fan on a tower air cooler fails, generally the tower can work reasonably well passively, without breaking the CPU's thermal threshold,) I'd say the Corsair coolers aren't worth it over just a tower cooler or true water cooling.

[AndrefromEstonia]

LOL...AMD kicks ass there with it's stock cooler.

 

 

But on subject, you should just unclock to a steadier clock speed...maybe lower some settings on the game if you still have problems. If those don't work then reinstall ENb or GTA 4.

I used to have that motherboard- M4A79XTD Evo. It's sh*t. First one popped a solid-state capacitor (how is that even possible) after about 3 months use. Second one had the RAM interface chip on the second bank of RAM sockets die, leading to never-ending BSOD's. Heap of crap.

 

I would never in a million years run the risk of 4GHz clocks on the standard AMD cooler. No, no no. I won't even run the risk of pushing 4GHz on my massive 120mm x 90mm x 70mm Sunbeam Core Contact Freezer for a prolonged period of time. The Phenom IIs run hot with the best coolers and at the best of times. 4GHz on stock cooling on high load and for more than a few minutes is a recipe for some seriously toasted components.

I don't know about you, but that one stayed OCd with 4.0ghz on a stock coolee on only 55 degrees. And he runned it for a few days on full load. Nothing happenwd.

[Kirst]

Does anyone ever read replies. You're all saying do this, do that. It has been posted that a BIOS reset has been done to bring everything back to stock level's while they decide which cooler to go with.

 

I think a poll with all these suggested replacement's would now be a good idea!

[sivispacem]

 

I don't know about you, but that one stayed OCd with 4.0ghz on a stock coolee on only 55 degrees. And he runned it for a few days on full load. Nothing happenwd.

55 degrees idle if the video is to believed. Not even under load. I struggle to top 60 under full load @3.8GHz.

Plus, you can see he's rigged up a load of other fans to blow fresh air into the case, which is basically the same as fitting a large CPU cooler. Except more expensive and more likely to promote everything getting covered in a layer of dust.

[AndrefromEstonia]

I don't know about you, but that one stayed OCd with 4.0ghz on a stock coolee on only 55 degrees. And he runned it for a few days on full load. Nothing happenwd.

55 degrees idle if the video is to believed. Not even under load. I struggle to top 60 under full load @3.8GHz.

Plus, you can see he's rigged up a load of other fans to blow fresh air into the case, which is basically the same as fitting a large CPU cooler. Except more expensive and more likely to promote everything getting covered in a layer of dust.

As always, you are wrong. You obviously checked the beginning of the video where he had a different system with a Intel processor. When the vid went on, he showed a very old white case...that had the side open and you could see the mobo with the original AMD cooler. ALSO, under the video in the description is a lnk to a forum, where he explains everything and shows proof.

[sivispacem]

As always, you are wrong. You obviously checked the beginning of the video where he had a different system with a Intel processor. When the vid went on, he showed a very old white case...that had the side open and you could see the mobo with the original AMD cooler. ALSO, under the video in the description is a lnk to a forum, where he explains everything and shows proof.

Quite right, I was wrong with regards to the first system. I've just read the forum posts, his idea of stress testing is "playing bad company 2". The only things the forum seems to suggest is that

1) he doesn't really know what he's doing- somehow capable of running a 4.2GHz overclock but with no idea how to check core temperatures

2) not a single other poster honestly believes that its' stable, partially in relation to his ineptitude (see above) and partially to do with the fact that, on stock clocks and under load, 955/965 processors routinely hit 65°C

 

Remember, the advised over-clock on the earlier II BE processors is 3.8GHz unless you start going nuts with the VCore and running the risk of frying everything- and that's on a beefy cooler. On a stock cooler, it's component suicide.

 

There are only a handful of Phenom II x4s running stably above 4GHz on air. None of them are on stock coolers. Like just about every other poster on that thread, I simply fail to believe it.