GTA San Andreas Beta Discussion and Finds

[Brooklynzsmac]

2 hours ago, BennyGod said:

That's an enhanced version of it. It kind of enhanced it weird. In the original version, you can make out a few small buildings, a wall, some docks, and shipping crates?

 

Compression artifacts if you ask me. 

[StuntGames]

This one is the second alpha/beta map if I'm not mistaken now it has bayside and the alcatraz has been removed, military bases are the same as the first, there is a map similar to this in the driving school.

 

Edited March 26, 2021 by StuntGames

[BennyGod]

2 hours ago, StuntGames said:

This one is the second alpha/beta map if I'm not mistaken now it has bayside and the alcatraz has been removed, military bases are the same as the first, there is a map similar to this in the driving school.

 

What if Bayside was always planned but wasn't added until late in development? 

[StuntGames]

1 hour ago, BennyGod said:

What if Bayside was always planned but wasn't added until late in development? 

 

obviously not, this part of the map was added very early as it happened in other places as well.

[Rhoda]

I'm looking at the size of the island intended to be Alcatraz and now that I think about it, it would've looked strange sat so close to land, with or without Bayside.

[doomfuldark99]

Face it. Alcatraz doesn't exist, it's just a grassy island.

[BennyGod]

1 hour ago, doomfuldark99 said:

Face it. Alcatraz doesn't exist, it's just a grassy island.

Even so, I want my grassy island.

[Ray Carter]

Anyone know if Emmet was supposed to play a larger role in the beta?

The first time I played Nines & AKs, I thought Emmet would offer guns at a discount similar to Phil Cassidy. But, in the final version, it's just a free 9mm spawn. It has it's own radar marker too.

 

On a side note, are there any mods that make Emmet's an official gun shop?

[Brooklynzsmac]

21 hours ago, BennyGod said:

What if Bayside was always planned but wasn't added until late in development? 

Bayside is probably late addition and late concept, the town is empty and has only boat school as side activity. 

[Big_Smiley]

2 hours ago, Ray Carter said:

Anyone know if Emmet was supposed to play a larger role in the beta?

His role was pretty minor. A well known OG old cat from the Seville Boulevard set who supplied weapons to Seville gangsters aswell with other family sets. What always questioned my mind is how the heck did Emmet ever acquire an AK since he was believed to carry crap pieces for fire arms hinted by Big Smoke and Ryder but we never fully see it in the cutscene mission Nines and AK's only a said crate. Emmet having such fire power leads he could have possibly had a bigger role before. Other than what's known about him not much else is known. 

 

 

Edited March 27, 2021 by Big_Smiley

[sefus]

One thing i discovered is you probably had to use the seasparrow for Cut Throat Business, which is the reason why CJ and Madd dog yell at each other for no reason.

 

[BennyGod]

Does anyone think the 8-ball bomb shop ever was supposed to be used in missions? It is never mentioned, and the only way you'll find out about it is through pure luck or an outside source. Maybe 8-ball had missions in beta? Or maybe it was simply used for a beta bombing mission? 

[CarlJohnson92]

Hello guy,

 

Have no idea the rockstar gets things cut on the map but this time this lake that connects to the whetstone.

 

[CarlCocksonJohnson]

On 5/15/2021 at 5:49 PM, CarlJohnson92 said:

Hello guy,

 

Have no idea the rockstar gets things cut on the map but this time this lake that connects to the whetstone.

 

It's kinda hard too see but it looks like it does

[CarlJohnson92]

3 hours ago, CarlCocksonJohnson said:

It's kinda hard too see but it looks like it does

 

That ditch exists elsewhere on this unused race map.

 

 

https://dev.prineside.com/en/gtasa_samp_model_id/model/3012-chopcop_head/

https://dev.prineside.com/en/gtasa_samp_model_id/model/3007-chopcop_torso/

https://dev.prineside.com/en/gtasa_samp_model_id/model/3008-chopcop_armR/

https://dev.prineside.com/en/gtasa_samp_model_id/model/3009-chopcop_armL/

https://dev.prineside.com/en/gtasa_samp_model_id/model/3010-chopcop_legR/

Can anyone restore the big smoke and gray police bikers uniform?

[CarlCocksonJohnson]

1 hour ago, CarlJohnson92 said:

 

That ditch exists elsewhere on this unused race map.

 

 

https://dev.prineside.com/en/gtasa_samp_model_id/model/3012-chopcop_head/

https://dev.prineside.com/en/gtasa_samp_model_id/model/3007-chopcop_torso/

https://dev.prineside.com/en/gtasa_samp_model_id/model/3008-chopcop_armR/

https://dev.prineside.com/en/gtasa_samp_model_id/model/3009-chopcop_armL/

https://dev.prineside.com/en/gtasa_samp_model_id/model/3010-chopcop_legR/

Can anyone restore the big smoke and gray police bikers uniform?

They are already restored in some mods like Grovestgtav's Ped Database Mod

[Lioshenka]

On 5/15/2021 at 10:49 PM, CarlJohnson92 said:

Hello guy,

 

Have no idea the rockstar gets things cut on the map but this time this lake that connects to the whetstone.

 

Actually, there was an inlet/watercourse/river continuation going all the way from the aeroport entrance to the South essentially cutting off SF from the rest of the land, making it into a separate island.

 

You can still figure out where it was supposed to be by looking at the terrain in game - there are generally sharper drops and steeper hills plus a few spots where the bits of land don't quite match up having transparent holes between them.

 

Basically, Foster Valley was a peninsula, something like this:

Edited May 18, 2021 by Lioshenka

[Brooklynzsmac]

On 5/5/2021 at 2:29 AM, sefus said:

One thing i discovered is you probably had to use the seasparrow for Cut Throat Business, which is the reason why CJ and Madd dog yell at each other for no reason.

 

They yell to each other because they driving a freaking BF Injection, this thing has huge engine not covered by any hood lmao

[Guest]

So this, http://www.olbapmusic.com/, is michael hunter's (creator of most of the songs found in the introduction video of SA and theme sod song for both GTA IV and SA) website where he lists his spotify songs and gta songs.

 

There is one that stands out from the rest called "Backing Beat 1" which I don't think appeared in any cutscene nor appeared in the introduction video here it is someone extended it to 3 minutes have a listen for your self:

 

And here is the non-extended version of it:

http://www.olbapmusic.com/sanbeat1a.html

 

Now the thing is, there is another one that goes by a similar name called: "Backing Beat 2" which we are all familiar with:

http://www.olbapmusic.com/sanbeat2a.html

 

Was the first one got scrapped, unused? Or used, but in an ad, trailer or even used in the R* flash website?

[CarlCocksonJohnson]

7 hours ago, ArkianHue said:

So this, http://www.olbapmusic.com/, is michael hunter's (creator of most of the songs found in the introduction video of SA and theme sod song for both GTA IV and SA) website where he lists his spotify songs and gta songs.

 

There is one that stands out from the rest called "Backing Beat 1" which I don't think appeared in any cutscene nor appeared in the introduction video here it is someone extended it to 3 minutes have a listen for your self:

 

And here is the non-extended version of it:

http://www.olbapmusic.com/sanbeat1a.html

 

Now the thing is, there is another one that goes by a similar name called: "Backing Beat 2" which we are all familiar with:

http://www.olbapmusic.com/sanbeat2a.html

 

Was the first one got scrapped, unused? Or used, but in an ad, trailer or even used in the R* flash website?

I guess it was supposed to be used in the introduction

[Big_Smiley]

13 hours ago, ArkianHue said:

There is one that stands out from the rest called "Backing Beat 1" which I don't think appeared in any cutscene nor appeared in the introduction video here it is someone extended it to 3 minutes have a listen for your self:

Damn that sh*t straight up funky funk. Got me getting my groove up over here. Sounds like something off The Chronic or Tha Dogg pound in a similar mix. Apparently this beat was an early version of "Grove street theme"  that was left unused and replaced by back beat 2. R* could have mabye found a spot for this track somewhere throughout the events of LS from the beginnings to the final return to LS for Carl because that beat is to groovy (or was now) to pass up. Damn what a missed opportunity for that smooth beat. Straight up West Side Cali vibes 

 

Edited June 10, 2021 by Big_Smiley

[AndrewMan111]

On 6/23/2020 at 4:13 AM, Brooklynzsmac said:

csplas1 is very early Pulaski model which was already confirmed by R* poker cards

Hey where did you get  these pictures ? 

[jaydeedilla]

1 hour ago, AndrewMan111 said:

Hey where did you get  these pictures ? 

There literally is a watermark on the top right of each picture...

[AndrewMan111]

38 minutes ago, afxtwin said:

There literally is a watermark on the top right of each picture...

it is hard to find

[CarlJohnson92]

On 5/18/2021 at 7:04 AM, Lioshenka said:

Actually, there was an inlet/watercourse/river continuation going all the way from the aeroport entrance to the South essentially cutting off SF from the rest of the land, making it into a separate island.

 

You can still figure out where it was supposed to be by looking at the terrain in game - there are generally sharper drops and steeper hills plus a few spots where the bits of land don't quite match up having transparent holes between them.

 

Basically, Foster Valley was a peninsula, something like this:

more analyze.

I found a river near the road really rockstar loves to remove content to make the game perfect.

 

@Mattineu thanks for info.

[MaddenedGhost]

On 5/5/2021 at 12:29 AM, sefus said:

One thing i discovered is you probably had to use the seasparrow for Cut Throat Business, which is the reason why CJ and Madd dog yell at each other for no reason.

 

I never paid attention to this LOL

[Xiled]

On 1/23/2020 at 10:04 AM, Ricbit said:

 

 

I think one of the doors of Artict1 is damaged

 

I know this was posted over a year ago but is that 2 waypoints marked on the map at once? 

[CarlCocksonJohnson]

3 hours ago, Xiled said:

 

I know this was posted over a year ago but is that 2 waypoints marked on the map at once? 

Yeah, You could place 2 waypoints back then

[Mehaniq]

On 7/24/2020 at 7:36 PM, Leon Luther said:

- 1img: No you couldn't hang out with cesar. It's Los Desperados. R* probably did this only for the trailer, or avoiding spoilers.

But I, for example, see quite a good perspective of using Cesar as an ally during the battle at the intersection of Mulholland. But if the Cesar participated in the shootout, it would probably be difficult to imagine what our move to the Badlands would be like. As a result, we have Sweet arrested and CJ taken out of Los Santos. Cesar, on the other hand, had to flee from Los Santos with Kendl before this shootout began so that the developers did not have a problem with where to remove him when protagonist been busted by C.R.A.S.H.

On 6/22/2021 at 12:06 PM, CarlCocksonJohnson said:

Yeah, You could place 2 waypoints back then

Its good but its only ONE screenshot in whole internet with 2 points on radar

[Lioshenka]

I thought I'd post this here. Could be completely unrelated, but could be somehow linked to a beta version of the mission where the containers were somehow involved.