GTA San Andreas Beta Discussion and Finds

[Mr. Kingpin]

After extensively looking through topics, I found out that a member called SLAYERMAGGOT UV mapped CJ's beta texture on his final head. Here's a pic:

 

http://img168.imageshack.us/f/gtasa2008073119121251jd5.jpg/

 

Compare:

 

http://img208.imageshack.us/i/cj3oo.jpg/

Appreciate that a lot. and that's too funny. Beta CJ was ugly as hell. He should get off that crack for real haha

[Weirdo.]

Okay then...

 

I've managed to construct a beta map (unfinished as there weren't enough pieces; I used someone else's map as a base):

 

http://a.imageshack.us/img202/2672/mapdbg.png

[Lioshenka]

Haha that's brilliant!

 

By the way, if you go to the driving school (I think) there is a black and white map of the city somewhere. Can't remember where exactly, but SF is all very clear and... different.

 

Here:

 

It's the updated version of Weirdo's map (thanks) with the HD picture of SF from the driving school. As you can see, there are quite a few changes there. Here are some of them:

 

1. No bay Marina and a prototype of Alkatraz can be seen

2. The bay is noticeably shorter

3. No abandoned airstrip as we know it

4. The motorway ends in the middle of nowhere - the map probably wasn't finished then, or maybe that was the whole idea

5. There is a park in place of two perpendicular streets with the houses

6. The pier has a different shape

7. The Asian ship is missing

8. There is a water reservoir in the desert?!

9. Differently shaped road

10. Differently shaped intersection

11. Looks like a farm or a small factory of some sorts. It isn't in the final version of SA.

12. Multi-level intersection is replaced with simple junctions

13. Again, the bay was much longer - I was thinking it looked artificial when I played SA for the first time!

14. There are no chemical works there

15. The road system is all different in this area

16. Glen park didn't exist, or was much smaller. It looks like there are a few houses and a square pool in place of it.

17. The park was re-placed with a small court.

18. This runway is gone from the final version

 

Thanks to Topo1st and Weirdo for finding this out and for the efforts put in.

Edited September 6, 2010 by ˸øåíüêà

[MarshDanni]

So since I seen GTA III beta GTA Vice City beta why not a GTA San Andreas beta

 

Here's some pics

 

Gang members were allowed to enter shops

 

There was more gang members to recruit

 

We see a beta weapon UZI and also beta clothes for Sweet and Big Smoke also we see another characther I think its Big Bear

 

Beta police officers

 

CJ had a diffrent look

 

post your knowledge of beta

[Raptomex]

 

Along with the hooded GSF gang member, there's another one not in the final release. You can however add these 2 members in the PC version of the game with mods.

[DarrinPA]

I know there were A LOT of differences - It would be awesome if we could have one central spot to list all of them.

 

Here is one that I've never seen mentioned before. The Zombotech building used to have a helicopter landing pad - or heliport - on top of the building where the 'Sparrow' helicopter still spawns.

at the 47 or 48 second mark.

[MarshDanni]

out of all gta betas I would like san andreas beta the most

[topog_z]

Noone noticed this?

beta jeans, shoes, Sanchez and CJ's face

beta ballas and the basketball court was fenced

beta farmer fields the textures are as bad as GTA 3

Edited May 1, 2011 by topog_z

[MarshDanni]

also did anyone noticed that greenwood and sanchez looked the same as in vice city

[JustRob]

Yeah. They probably changed the textures and the shading style later on. Personally I like it better now.

 

Also, the policebike used to be different, it had the number "911" on the side (as seen in the screenshot in OP), and that was also its name. Both were changed because of people possibly making connections to the 9/11 incident.

[TheStranger]

Here's some more beta screenshots that I still have in my computer, I saved them from back in 2004 when the game was still in development:

here you can see what looks like a beta Journey, also the HUD looks weird.

Apparently they were going to have a Citroen -like car in the game but they probably removed it for obvious reasons.

 

 

Edited May 4, 2011 by TheStranger

[Hmmm nice bike]

Let's not forget about the beta map of San Andreas, which can be seen in the Lil' Probe Inn, as well as inside of Toreno's house.

One noticeable difference is that there is no Bayside. There also appears to be an island north of San Fierro that may have been based on Alcatraz. Narcis_speed6 marked out the differences here And here's a final version of the map for comparison.

[WhistleBlower]

Oh god, why remove Alcatraz? It's not like they couldn't have positioned it somewhere else.

 

And do the 7 circles on the map indicate anything?

Edited May 4, 2011 by WhistleBlower

[JustRob]

The circles probably mean something. One of them is on Area 69. It's probably got something to do with conspiracies or whatever.

[WhistleBlower]

Yeah, like an X-Files thing. Strange sightings and occurrences.

[Kurator]

 

Here's some more beta screenshots that I still have in my computer, I saved them from back in 2004 when the game was still in development:

*pic*

here you can see what looks like a beta Journey, also the HUD looks weird.

*pic*

Apparently they were going to have a Citroen -like car in the game    but they probably removed it for obvious reasons.

 

lol kidding they are fake

 

This is SO fake.

You just modded your game , taken pics and then made the quality worse.

And beta ver. of SA was on PS2 your are taken on PC (I can tell by the road textures, they look better on PC)

HUD looks weird? it's GTA 3 HUD.

Your post makes me puke

[TheStranger]

 

This is SO fake.

You just modded your game , taken pics and then made the quality worse.

And beta ver. of SA was on PS2 your are taken on PC (I can tell by the road textures, they look better on PC)

HUD looks weird? it's GTA 3 HUD.

Your post makes me puke 

LOL yah true, it's the Hud from a picture of GTA 3, and I made them more blurry to make it look like the old screens of SA.

[Arsen Vitiuk]

In the Beta Carl could take over not only Ballas and Vagos hoods in Los Santos, but over Sand Fierro Rifa & The Da Nang Boys territories in San Fierro, as well as Sindaccos, Forellis and Leones turfs in Las Venturas. And he could also recruit Varrios Los Aztecas and Triads to his gang.

 

In the final version of the game there are several bits of beta stuff left:

 

Edited May 4, 2011 by Arsen Vitiuk

[MarshDanni]

also there was animals in the beta

[_Rob_]

also there was animals in the beta

No there wasn't

[Jool]

http://gta.wikia.com/Beta_Releases

 

There are written all known things and there are so many. And why does Rockstar remove these things in VC, III , SA ? It would be slightly better. Hope that later, in games anniversary 10th or something, they would release games betas

[Spider-Vice]

also there was animals in the beta

No there wasn't

Yeah there were, there are models around and some proof, just the AI has been removed.

[_Rob_]

As far as I can tell there's stuff like moose heads and pelts, but all of these could be used as props and decorations. There are no screenshots AFAIK of animals and R* never mentioned any animals (other than the still present birds and fish). However I would love to be proven wrong.

[Spider-Vice]

As far as I can tell there's stuff like moose heads and pelts, but all of these could be used as props and decorations. There are no screenshots AFAIK of animals and R* never mentioned any animals (other than the still present birds and fish). However I would love to be proven wrong.

Yes, you're right though. More solid proof is needed and Rockstar never showed it, though it's been said on some sites that are into beta versions.

[MarshDanni]

It would be awsome to have animals bears, wolfs etc. Also I heard gta san andreas beta had a mission pack

[_Rob_]

Well there are definitely "spaces" left for them, that's how DYOM works actually.

[WhistleBlower]

I'm a big fan of Red Dead Redemption so I wouldn't have minded seeing some animals in San Andreas. But I can understand why they wouldn't have included it in the first place. Most likely due to hardware limitations at the time and the probability of actually running into a bear or wolf depending on your location.

[JustRob]

Nah they probably removed them because it would be too violent. Same reason why they stripped kids from GTAIII.

[dnextreme88]

Is there a GTA SA Beta Mod for download? I would like to play this game once again, just asking.

[Lioshenka]

Here is a beta map of San Andreas. I had another version, which had all the differences highlighted - I think there were about 15 of them, the major ones I mean.